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post #31 of 243
Sounds like both the PX50 and PX500 models are available now. There are a few online dealers that have both the 50PX50 and 50PX500 models listed and are coming in about $200 to $300 difference in cost. Seems like a deal when you get the stand and other features.
post #32 of 243
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Originally posted by empire_of_one


To summarize the differences that I'm aware of so far:

- PX500 has PC input; PX50 doesn't.

I see this mentioned quite a bit, but I have to ask...


If the PX50 has HDMI input (which it does), and knowing that HDMI and DVI are very similar (they make cables that go from one to the other, minus the sound, of course)...

If your PC video card has DVI output, can't you just use a HDMI-DVI cable and display from your PC that way? I would think it to actually be superior to any other method.

Can somebody please explain?
post #33 of 243
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Originally posted by Hornswoggler
I see this mentioned quite a bit, but I have to ask...


If the PX50 has HDMI input (which it does), and knowing that HDMI and DVI are very similar (they make cables that go from one to the other, minus the sound, of course)...

If your PC video card has DVI output, can't you just use a HDMI-DVI cable and display from your PC that way? I would think it to actually be superior to any other method.

Can somebody please explain?
Yes you can use the HDMI input for a PC that has DVI out but with only one HDMI input do you really want to use it for that or save the HDMI for your other HD video equipment? Also there are some extra adjustments available in the menus designed for PC video on plasmas with VGA (PC) inputs.
post #34 of 243
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Originally posted by mhfnet
but with only one HDMI input do you really want to use it for that or save the HDMI for your other HD video equipment?
I would hope that receivers of the future will manage HDMI connections. (i.e. funnel all of your HDMI's into the receiver, and the receiver have one HDMI-video-out to the display device). This is purely speculation.

Thanks for the answer. I figured it could be done.
post #35 of 243
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Originally posted by rogo
In Japan, I believe the HD tuners are called BS tuners. They are not ATSC, that's for sure. I would not extrapolate anything about US capabilities from a Japanese model as these are nearly always different.
In addition to BS there are two more digital broadcasting systems in Japan: 110 degree CS and terrestrial digital. All current HD sets support all three. See here for some background: http://www.dibeg.org/techp/Documents...nt4-status.PDF

Han
post #36 of 243
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Originally posted by hollywood53
The 500 arrived today at a major distributorship here on LI NY, not to break any rules but from a cost perspective, the is only a $100.00 difference between that and the 50 version.
how positive are you of that?? Iknow online vendors have claimed to had it for a while, but people will claim alot of things to get that cc # and just string you along till they actually have it. Im pretty sure its not against the rules to post the distributor, can you tell us? Thanks!
post #37 of 243
Quote:
Originally posted by Hornswoggler
I see this mentioned quite a bit, but I have to ask...


If the PX50 has HDMI input (which it does), and knowing that HDMI and DVI are very similar (they make cables that go from one to the other, minus the sound, of course)...

If your PC video card has DVI output, can't you just use a HDMI-DVI cable and display from your PC that way? I would think it to actually be superior to any other method.

Can somebody please explain?
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Originally posted by mhfnet
Yes you can use the HDMI input for a PC that has DVI out but with only one HDMI input do you really want to use it for that or save the HDMI for your other HD video equipment? Also there are some extra adjustments available in the menus designed for PC video on plasmas with VGA (PC) inputs.
In the "Notes" section of page 12 for Panasonic's Operating Instructions that describes the HDMI input for the TH-37/42/50PX50U states:

"This input terminal is not intended for use with computers."

I'd recommend against using a 50U panel with a PC... if you need PC input buy the 500U instead.
post #38 of 243
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Originally posted by optivity
In the "Notes" section of page 12 for Panasonic's Operating Instructions that describes the HDMI input for the TH-37/42/50PX50U states:

"This input terminal is not intended for use with computers."

I'd recommend against using a 50U panel with a PC... if you need PC input buy the 500U instead.
The question still remains is it even possible to damage a plasma with bad input signals. Now with a CRT I can see how, but I have no idea if you could damage a plasma by hooking up a PC. After having played with hooking up my computer to the HDMI input I think the reason they state this is because HDMI only will except certain signal resolutions.

Thanks
Robert
post #39 of 243
the distibutor I mentioned is Intercounty aplliance, they do not retail, they are strictly a wholesale house for independants, a close freind of mine owns a store here on LI, when we checked on the 50px500, the computer showed 5 arrived on thursday and available with another 30 (50Inch) arriving today.
post #40 of 243
Quote:
Originally posted by optivity
In the "Notes" section of page 12 for Panasonic's Operating Instructions that describes the HDMI input for the TH-37/42/50PX50U states:

"This input terminal is not intended for use with computers."

I'd recommend against using a 50U panel with a PC... if you need PC input buy the 500U instead.
My Hitachi 52" RPTV said the same thing with its DVI connectior...

Needless to say, I eventually got it to work.

I think they say that so they do not have to support it. (i.e. somebody calling into tech support, How do I...?)

I bet it will work. Actually, I might find out pretty soon.
post #41 of 243
In my experience there are three reasons why manufacturers write "X is not supported", and I have used all myself.

1. We know it doesn't work.
2. It does work at least partially, but it is not a mainstream feature and we make an explicit decision not to spend engineering or training or support resources on it.
3. We want the ability to change how it works without backward compatibility problems (not so relevant to this type of product that isn't revised once sold).
post #42 of 243
PCs can support much higher vert./horiz. scan rates than what Panasonic recommends using the HDMI input so wouldn't someone run the risk of "cooking" their panel?
post #43 of 243
Quote:
Originally posted by optivity
PCs can support much higher vert./horiz. scan rates than what Panasonic recommends using the HDMI input so wouldn't someone run the risk of "cooking" their panel?
No. If the refresh rate is too high, the picture just wont show up. There isnt any possible damage you could do. It's like setting the res/refresh rate too high on your computer monitor.
post #44 of 243
Anyone else seen anything on the 500 availability? I had assumed we were at least 6 weeks away from it being sighted but Hollywood indicates that they should be hitting the streets anyday now. About to pull the trigger on the 50 but can wait a few more days to see what the initial buzz is on the 500. I'm intrigued by those side speakers.....
post #45 of 243
"...can wait a few more days to see what the initial buzz is on the 500"

Gak! Don't ever mention buzz and plasmas. Bad juju....
post #46 of 243
Quote:
Originally posted by rogo
"...can wait a few more days to see what the initial buzz is on the 500"

Gak! Don't ever mention buzz and plasmas. Bad juju....
;)
post #47 of 243
As for PC Input, I don't care about using the plasma as a computer monitor, but do want to be able to use it to watch HDTV recordings I have made using my FusionHDTV II card.

Wouldn't the 720p PC input also be a plus for XBox gamers (of which I am not)?
post #48 of 243
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Originally posted by yobob
;)
My TH-50PX50U is 'silent' (on or off)
post #49 of 243
One more feature the Japanese px500 has, that I didn't see mentioned, is that it has a built-in web browser. It is hooked up to a service called t-navi (http://tnavi.net), but as I understand it you can browse other sites as well.
post #50 of 243
Here are a couple differences not listed above:

PX500 - Shiny black bezel, PX50 has non-reflective charcoal gray bezel
PX500 - Uses that fancy-schmancy $800 silver floor stand (like the older PX25), the PX50 has the same table-top stand as the PD50.
post #51 of 243
Quote:
Originally posted by Geordon
Here are a couple differences not listed above:

PX500 - Shiny black bezel, PX50 has non-reflective charcoal gray bezel
PX500 - Uses that fancy-schmancy $800 silver floor stand (like the older PX25), the PX50 has the same table-top stand as the PD50.
I believe the 500x also uses the same table top stand as the PD25 and PA25 models.
post #52 of 243
Leeda2 I hope you are right about the PX50/500 using the same table top stand that the 7UY and the P25's used, cause I have that stand and would rather use it than the silver one that comes with the PX and PD series...
post #53 of 243
Here's the Panasonica Press Release on which I am basing my info:
http://www2.panasonic.com/webapp/wcs...42005014711664

Looks like you are right with the table top stand, as well, because here is a shot of the 42PX25 from sears

http://content.sears.com/data/produc...544000-dlv.jpg
post #54 of 243
Depending on where you try to buy it, the floor stand (a nice one IMO---I've seen it in person), runs a cool grand.
post #55 of 243
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Originally posted by DarrenK
I do not believe the Panasonic comes with a floor stand. Here is the link from Panasonic's sales site:


http://www2.panasonic.com/webapp/wcs...00000000005702

The stand with shelves is listed as an $899 accessory. I think we are all in agreement now on this though.

Darren
Okay, I royally messed that post up somehow.

Darren:confused:
post #56 of 243
The stand for the 42-incher is/was $900. Add $100 for a 50-incher.

I say "was" because the link points to the px25 mount, which has a slight "forward" curve at the top to mate with the panel, which has the "rearward" curve at the bottom. The new 50 series panels don't have the curve at the bottom, so I wonder if these stands will even work. :confused:
post #57 of 243
Anyone know if the 500 will have the Onyx tag? I find it hard to believe. So far, the Onyx plasmas were about 1g more than the standard Pany line. I find it surprising that the high end line would have an MSRP difference of only $500 on the 50 inch line - even lower if you search online for it. If you google the 500 model number, you'll even find plasmahouse calling it the Onyx. But then again, they say it will be available in 1 week so....who knows.

If it is an Onyx, does that mean anything? The Onyx line to date had a cool shiny bezel and I think a salesman once told me they had a 2 year warranty instead of 1 year, plus longer lifespan and better picture quality. But it seems like the 500 is supposedly just the 50 with a few bells.

And finally, does ANYONE know when its coming out? If its another six weeks, then I may have to get the 50.
post #58 of 243
I posted this separately, but will post here as well. The question is really the same for the 500 as it is for the 50.

Short version, through this forum (thanks, btw), Visual Apex has the TH-50PHD7UY with stand and such for about $300 more than what I can get the new 50PX50u for (buddy might upgrade to 65 and sell me his for about $3500). So I guess the real question is, how much better is the new glass and sub-pixel control? As near as I can tell:

Pro for 50/500u: New 8th gen, sub pixel, tuners
Pro for 7UY: Nearly same specs, smaller form factor, no speakers (don't need them), split screen, can put in 2 HDMI inputs (buy separately)

Con for 50u: Bigger form factor, no PIP (not issue on 500), no cablecard (don't care about cablecard until it is 2 way anyway)
Con for 7UY: No sub pixel, no tuners (not a big deal since I always use cab/sat & DVD)

So...now your thoughts? Is PQ close enough between 7UY and 50/500u to make a non issue? Or is the new 8th gen so much better I should either wait for 500u for inputs or get the 50u now?

So, to be (hopefully) clearer...is it better to:

A) (if the 8th gen picture is better) give up PIP & smaller bezel and get 8th gen 50u, or
B) is the picture pretty much the same and if small bezel & PIP are important to me, just get the 7UY?
post #59 of 243
I too am considering these 2 Pannasonics.

I'm considering waiting for the 500 for the concern of not being able to zoom/strectch 4x3 HD material on the 50.

But since I don't even have HD cable yet anyway, I don't how much 4x3 HD material is even out there. I mean, should I really be concerned about it?
Are there lots of 4x3 HD shows? Will I wish I had gotten the 500 instead?

Thanks for any help. My first post.
post #60 of 243
JSP911: I posted a very similar question in this thread:
http://www.avsforum.com/avs-vb/showt...hreadid=537208

And it appears that you asked the question here:
http://www.avsforum.com/avs-vb/showt...hreadid=538495

I apologize if I'm not linking correctly, but can the powers that be merge these threads??

It seems that a bunch of people are in the process of deciding between these three models...
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