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post #421 of 4014
nice speaker stands; where u get them?
post #422 of 4014
Awesome stand! I just got my hlr5067 on Wed May 25, I love it. I think you sold me on the stand. Nice setup!!! Post more Pics!!!
post #423 of 4014
I am very new to the HD tv experience. Just got an hlr5067 when I put in the Empire strikes back dvd there are still small black bars on top and bottom of screen. I thought with the wide tv screen this would be eliminated. Any advice or suggestions?
post #424 of 4014
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Originally Posted by vindicator View Post

I am very new to the HD tv experience. Just got an hlr5067 when I put in the Empire strikes back dvd there are still small black bars on top and bottom of screen. I thought with the wide tv screen this would be eliminated. Any advice or suggestions?

Use the "zoom" feature if it bothers you.

There are several differenct widescreen ratios used for movies. Your new TV is 16x9, which is approximately 1.77 to 1. Most movies today are shot at 1.85 to 1, near enough the same. A few movies are shot in what used to be called Cinemascope, which is 2.35 to 1. To show those movies on your TV, you can either crop the sides ("zoom") or have black bands on the top & bottom.
post #425 of 4014
New HLR5067w on 5/24

This morning, turn on TV, Lamp light blinks....and blinks....and blinks, then goes off and standby comes on (Sometimes)

When I push a remote button, the TIMER light comes on.

I tried a cold boot (Unplug set for 15 min) Still no lamp. I can hear the fan running.

Any suggetions? When I did a search on lamps, it was mostly about warrenty replacement.

Noe TV was on Last night (Baby sitter) for about 5 hours straight.

Set is 6 inches from back wall, no enclosure.
post #426 of 4014
I noticed that if you turn off the TV, then immediatly turn it back on that it will sit there blinking lights longer then usual. Eventually it'll turn back on tho...
post #427 of 4014
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Originally Posted by vindicator View Post

I am very new to the HD tv experience. Just got an hlr5067 when I put in the Empire strikes back dvd there are still small black bars on top and bottom of screen. I thought with the wide tv screen this would be eliminated. Any advice or suggestions?

The link at the bottom of my message describes black bars from the point of view of the HLM, HLN, HLP series Samsung DLP sets. Your HLR set may have some differences but if it does they shouldn't be too significant.

If you still have questions after you read the first message in the thread about aspect ratios, ask away.
post #428 of 4014
Talked to Samsung customer care- they said it sounds like a bad bulb, and set up a service tag and gave me a place to call.

-I spoke to guy who answered phone, he said "it's sunday, call back tuesday".

Sounds like a guy who works out of his house.

I Can't even talk to local serice rep to set up service until tuesday-, will probably take longer to get him out.

This BITES.
post #429 of 4014
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Originally Posted by Heywood View Post

Talked to Samsung customer care- they said it sounds like a bad bulb

You might try opening the lamp door, removing & reseating the lamp assembly and closing the door. Its a long shot, but you never know. Instructions are in your owners manual.
post #430 of 4014
I asked about if there was anything I could try- he said he didn't think so. The lamp lights a little ( I can see it through the back)

I am hooked, and can't go with out hidef for 3+ days!

Also have poeple coming over to whom I have been boasting about the PQ

I am tempted to try to find a new bulb and keep it as a back up when this one is replaced. ( Although prices may drop between no and the time I'd need one.

Anybody know of places you can pick up a bulb ( No via mail order)?
post #431 of 4014
are they going to replace the bulb:? I thougt bulbs are not under warranty?
post #432 of 4014
I believe bulbs are under the first year warranty

And then extended life warrantys may or may not cover them.

They indicated the service call is to replace the bulb, he said this was the first bulb issue on an HLR he has seen.
post #433 of 4014
Any chance you can exchange it where you bought it?

BTW, we just got the 4667W in where I work. I'm pretty disappointed in the picture quality so far. Just a general lack of detail and not very good black level.
post #434 of 4014
I was one of the people who got the Amazon deal-

right now, I think it is a coincidence that it is having an issue ( More my bad luck than anything 'wrong' with the Amazon sets)
post #435 of 4014
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Originally Posted by vindicator View Post

I am very new to the HD tv experience. Just got an hlr5067 when I put in the Empire strikes back dvd there are still small black bars on top and bottom of screen. I thought with the wide tv screen this would be eliminated. Any advice or suggestions?

Empire was filmed in 2.35:1 which will still give you fairly small back bars. The other popular format is 1.85:1 (Saving Private Ryan) and that will you will have tiny black bars or none at all due to overscan.
post #436 of 4014
Does anybody know if the screen on HLR-5067 can be replaced? I found a couple of large grayish spots and a couple of small dark ones on the screen. To be honest they don't affect the PQ but I still feel that $2000 product should be perfect...
post #437 of 4014
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Originally Posted by dpristin View Post

Does anybody know if the screen on HLR-5067 can be replaced?

Yes it can.

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I found a couple of large grayish spots and a couple of small dark ones on the screen. To be honest they don't affect the PQ but I still feel that $2000 product should be perfect...

There may also be some dirt in the light path. In any case, it can be fixed or cleaned.
post #438 of 4014
Quick question - is the manual correct in that the analogue sound output on the HLR XX67 goes via the volume control of the TV?

I was planning to use a stereo amp and not a receiver and was hoping for a simple line level output.

Thanks.
Nicholas.
post #439 of 4014
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Originally Posted by cpb_mille View Post

I've been using the thx opitmizer (that comes on some dvds) to fine tune the picture since I don't have the DVE or AVIA dvds.

I noticed on one of the video tests that the picture if offset in the vertical by around 10 mm ! Is this due to the DVD or the TV ? Anybody else notice this ?

This could be the TV or the DVD player. Only way to know is to try a DVD player that's known to have a well centered image. This is correctable via the service menu of the TV, even if it is the DVD player that's off. I don't know if the service menu information for the HLR has been posted yet, but it is definitely correctable. You could also try switching your DVD players connection to s-video, component, or HDMI (just something different) and see if it changes, which might give you an idea if it's the DVD player or TV. Let us know what DVD player you're using as well. DVE or Avia would give you an estimated percentage of screen space that is lost, as well as a lot more bars to work with.

The main point to get across here is that it's all part of the usual geometry/overscan tweaking that us AVS supergeeks get obsessed with And that it should be correctable and is not something I would consider a "flaw." You could potentially have a tech come out and do this for you, although I make no promises.
post #440 of 4014
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Originally Posted by mikea28 View Post

This could be the TV or the DVD player. Only way to know is to try a DVD player that's known to have a well centered image. This is correctable via the service menu of the TV, even if it is the DVD player that's off. I don't know if the service menu information for the HLR has been posted yet, but it is definitely correctable. You could also try switching your DVD players connection to s-video, component, or HDMI (just something different) and see if it changes, which might give you an idea if it's the DVD player or TV. Let us know what DVD player you're using as well. DVE or Avia would give you an estimated percentage of screen space that is lost, as well as a lot more bars to work with.

The main point to get across here is that it's all part of the usual geometry/overscan tweaking that us AVS supergeeks get obsessed with And that it should be correctable and is not something I would consider a "flaw." You could potentially have a tech come out and do this for you, although I make no promises.


SONY DVP-NS325

Switching between SVideo and Component shows a difference. Svideo is alittle more centered (~3-4mm) than component.

I'm also dissapointed with lipsync. I thought the lipsync was only inherent to HDMI and/or DVI but I also started to notice it with the DVD (audio straight to Sony STR-D615 receiver using RCA cables).
post #441 of 4014
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Originally Posted by cpb_mille View Post

SONY DVP-NS325

Switching between SVideo and Component shows a difference. Svideo is alittle more centered (~3-4mm) than component.

I'm also dissapointed with lipsync. I thought the lipsync was only inherent to HDMI and/or DVI but I also started to notice it with the DVD (audio straight to Sony STR-D615 receiver using RCA cables).

I don't know much about that particular DVD player, but I think that only outputs 480i if I remember correctly. On the HLN/HLP series, the lipsync/lag issues were exacerbated by 480i signals since the TV had to deinterlace and scale the image, which resulted in audio lagging behind video. Running the audio directly to the receiver also potentially unmasks the problem since the TV can normally compensate for the time to deinterlace/scale by incorporating a delay on the audio as well, at least when the audio is actually run to the TV. This of course is an acceptable solution most of the time if you run your audio through the TV in some fashion (even as a pass through), but doesn't work well for gaming where timing is critical.

Along the same lines, 480p (as opposed to 720p) was more likely to have an issue because a scaling step was necessary. Is this what you've observed?

I don't think that DVI/HDMI vs component made any difference if the resolution was the same. The A?D conversion should take virtually no time at all. I'm a little surprised that you're getting synch issues with HD since even the old models didn't do that. Is there any chance it's actually the result of the output of your cable/satellite box?
post #442 of 4014
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Originally Posted by mikea28 View Post

...only outputs 480i...I'm a little surprised that you're getting synch issues with HD since even the old models didn't do that. Is there any chance it's actually the result of the output of your cable/satellite box?

Thanks for the help Mikea28.
I think the sony dvd player will get relegated to the guest bedroom and I'm gonna have to pick up a new one. Any suggestions ?
I don't think I said I had synch issues with HD (ota by the way).
post #443 of 4014
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Originally Posted by cpb_mille View Post

Thanks for the help Mikea28.
I think the sony dvd player will get relegated to the guest bedroom and I'm gonna have to pick up a new one. Any suggestions ?
I don't think I said I had synch issues with HD (ota by the way).

My mistake - must have been someone else that mentioned the HD synch issues. That's also disappointing that 480i might still have these issues. I was really hoping that'd be one of the big fixes with the HLR series and the new ATI-based scaler.

The debate of what DVD player to get could go on for quite some time. I think the Panasonic S77/S97 or the Sony 975 are both excellent choices that run around $250. They both upconvert DVD's to 720p or 1080i via HDMI, thus providing an all digital connection from disc to display. There are lots of other options out there. Check out the DVD forum for way more information that you ever wanted
post #444 of 4014
I've got a 97S with my HLR5667. I've watched several DVDs now and more often or not there is a lip sync problem. Actually the problem can be corrected with audio delay (in the video settings menu, oddly enough) set to its maximum value of 100ms. So that player is effectively at the end of its rope on lip sync. This is over HDMI.

I haven't tried component much because the 97S doesn't upscale over component. And I find the HDMI (upscaled by the 97S) looks better than component (upscaled by the TV).
post #445 of 4014
Update on my 5067w and the bulb issue.

Last night When it was darker) I noticed that the set had a light blue glow, like the bulb was dimly illuminated, and ther was about the same amount of light coming out of the back vents.

This morning hit power on, and fired up like nothing was ever wrong.

Bizarre- not sure If I should have them send a tech out to tell me nothing is wrong.

I think I need to review the warrenty info.

BTW I tried fooling around with the picture controls, and I could not get the Dnie "off" side to look better than the "on" side. This was done on the HDNET cable signal going through component cables,

Is the Dnie argument more on how it makes SD and DVDs look?
post #446 of 4014
Update on my dead video problem (see post linked)....

http://www.avsforum.com/avs-vb/showt...50#post5675650

On day 2 of my HLR5067W being in my house the screen went dead. Audio was working, but no picture. The problem seemed to fix itself, but there is no way I was going to chalk it up to a "hiccup" when the TV was only 2 days old. So I planned on going back to BB to get a replacement.

Determined that I was going to face an unnecessary fight, I walked into my BB yesterday and walked up to the salesman who sold me the TV. He was very apologetic & walked me over to the customer service manager. I told her my plight and right away she said "I have been wanting this TV for about 6 months too! Tell me what is going on." I figure I am in like Flynn since she has an interest in the TV herself. I tell her about the issues I am having & she asks if I had a BB tech rep come out. I told her no because I want a new TV, not a repair rep to come out & look at it. She smiles & says, "I would do the same thing!" She then proceeds to schedule them to come out & deliver a brand new TV to me (and pick up my current one) on Saturday free of charge.

Overall, I am very happy with the way BB has handled this so far. Hopefully my issue was a one-off problem and the new unit will not have similar issues.
post #447 of 4014
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Originally Posted by Heywood View Post

Update on my 5067w and the bulb issue.

Last night When it was darker) I noticed that the set had a light blue glow, like the bulb was dimly illuminated, and ther was about the same amount of light coming out of the back vents.

This morning hit power on, and fired up like nothing was ever wrong.

Bizarre- not sure If I should have them send a tech out to tell me nothing is wrong.

I think I need to review the warrenty info.

BTW I tried fooling around with the picture controls, and I could not get the Dnie "off" side to look better than the "on" side. This was done on the HDNET cable signal going through component cables,

Is the Dnie argument more on how it makes SD and DVDs look?

GOOD, just in time for Miss Universe =)

I'd still have the tech come, he'll have a new bulb and maybe he can give you more info??
post #448 of 4014
Yes- I just spoke to samsung and the customer service rep still recommended the visit. CS was Very helpful, and reminded me to register on line for the 3 month warranty extension.

The service should be out Thursday, I'll update then.

(and Yes I did catch a little of Miss Universe )
post #449 of 4014
whats the " 3 month warranty extension"... i must have missed that somewhere
post #450 of 4014
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Originally Posted by nickavs View Post

whats the " 3 month warranty extension"... i must have missed that somewhere

If you look at your warranty card, it says that you get a 3 month warranty extention (15 vs 12 months) if you fill out the web form.
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