Sony DHG-HDD250/500: Official Thread - Page 678

I see you posted about that problem back last August. Have you considered doing a "Restore Factory Default" from the 9012 menu? It reformats the HDD which will obviously delete the recording . More important, it might eliminate whatever problem is causing the inability to delete.

Try a 'Clear NVM' first.

The few times I've had that problem in the past, the soft, front panel reset fixed it. Sometimes I had to do it more than once, but it always cleared it up eventually.

Actually, I've never had to do a complete "Restore Factory Default" reset on mine. But if you have to, you have to.

It is possible that some of the lettering has been expanded? And perhaps it more closely follows the information at the end of the expanded descriptions? I think most of it has been there for a while now?

Pic 8136: House New - TV14 SLD and also see the end of the description for House

Pic 8135: Show 24 New - TV14 VS and end of description

Pic 8134: This is the TVGOS Movie Guide rating - but I think I have seen one for TV Shows as well?

Over the weekend I connected up an AVR and I do appreciate the responses to my previous questions.


Maybe there is something squirrelly with your DHG?? I turned the Dolby setting to AUTO-ON on both my units, connected them via HDMI to inputs on the AVR and everything works perfectly. No need to also use toslink from DHG to AVR to get 5.1 audio, either from the DVR tuner or from recorded content. You must use the AUTO-ON setting though. If you set Dolby to OFF, you only get 2.0.


Well, that works only if I don't want to hear audio from the DVR's tuner. I tested this before I moved one of my DHG's HDMI connection over to the AVR. With Dolby set to AUTO-ON, there's no sound at all from the DVR tuner (same result as using the TV speakers). However, when playing back a recording with 5.1 content, much to my surprise the TV did send 5.1 out via optical just as if the audio came from the TV tuner.

Can a Harmony (or other) remote independently operate two DHGs that are co-located? In other words, use a different IR for each one? I've been using a separate remote for each of my units: one set to IR 50 and the other to IR 51.

Possumgirl

You are absolutely correct.

I realized there was an easy way to make the change without moving all the equipment, so this is what I did.

Pic 8141: Went into the Denon setup to change the ports for the HDD-500. No changes made to the Sony Box.

Pic 8142: Turned Off the Toslink - None The only input from the Sony Box is via HDMI.

Pic 8144: I could reach the Toslink on the back of the Sony Box - so just unplugged to make sure it is dead.

Pic 8145: Both Live TV and old recordings work perfectly.

Pic 8146: The Denon reports all is in order. Dolby Digital 5.1 Audio "in" from Sony Box via HDMI and 5.1 out. Sorry it's blurry, very dark and no lights.

No problem. Just happy to get ABC from Philly 72 miles away on my HDD500. Now I can use my Directv receiver for ABC from New Haven.

Possumgirl,

I know that the Sony Remote RM-VL610B from J&R is a perfect match for IR code 50 by simply using the code number 3101. There are only about 4 buttons to add which take about 30 min or less and you are 100% complete.

I do not know if there is a default code like 3101 to use for the IR 51 remote, OR if each button must be individually coded in-yikes? So in a worse case scenario if no default code is available, as long as you have an IR51 remote the Sony 610 remote could learn all the buttons. That way one remote can control two Sony DVRs side by side and all the other equipment as well.

The really nice thing about the 610 remote is all the transport buttons that most remotes are lacking for DHG-HDD use.

I use two DHGs that way with my Harmony. The Harmony database didn't contain a separate "device" for code 51 four years ago when I set this up, so I simply made a second copy of the DHG-HDD250 that was in their database and taught it all the code 51 codes from the original Sony remote. This is a slightly tedious task but doesn't take very long, probably less than a half hour. Maybe Harmony has a code 51 version somewhere in their database now.

Things got interesting last fall when I did a "Restore Factory Default" on the code 51 unit, which of course reset it to code 50. I had to cover up my code 50 unit so it couldn't see the remote while I reset the other one back to code 51.

Guess Rovi is getting ready. I have listings for day 9 until 1am. There is just so much I could say but why bother.

Getting ready for what?

Probably they figured that by changing the listings end time now, they won't lose an hour of sleep next weekend. I find it kind of cute. I wonder when the listings end for zip codes in Arizona and Hawaii?

Typically by 10PM of any day, when you look at listings to Day "9" it will usually have "listings" data filled in to about 3:30AM for Day "9", with the remainder of Day "9" as "no listings". By the next morning when you look, the Day 9 becomes the Day 8 (no longer a Day 9 there), and the Day 8 can be typically be 90% to 100% complete.

The two major factors that control all of this are Solar Flairs and Rovi.

It's funny, because when I first checked day 8 at 6am (EST) this morning as I normally do, I saw WED on the screen. I though we were screwed and Rovi was going for a two day listing. I also feel that since Rovi is based in California, a factor is that their midnight is my 3am. Usually at midnight I see day 8 as only listings that started in day 7 and extend past midnight. Nothing is new until sometime during the early morning hours while I'm sleeping. Since I get home from work about midnight on Sat, Sun & Mon, I have a lot of practice with this. I also noticed that starting yesterday there were no longer "no title" gaps for several NBC/U channels. Add into all this the rising battle between the networks and cable providers, I really need to get an antenna working this year.

Just another example of EDID problems. This option works on my LG TV but it is an exception, it does not work on an old Vizio 52GLF. It does not work with the Tivo HD.

But I see that you have 5.1 working using houstenperson's advice. But using HDMI to the AVR and then to the TV means the AVR has to be powered on, something that with SDG&E rates here is expensive. My Sony AVR draws close to 150 watts, about twice what the 55LH90 TV consumes.

Was just about to post that method, but you beat me to it.

The Harmony is a so versatile and the device database is exceptional. My 880 switches inputs to a Monoprice HDMI switch and a CablesTogo component video/audio switch with ease.
The TV database also offers discrete TV input switching for most sets avoiding the nuisance of bringing up a menu to do so.

LOL, Actually it was Possumgirl that got my brain fixed. I have had so many HDTV with ATSC tuners I has lost track of which ones did what. Apparently I had the same thing occur on previous TV’s where the Sony DVR AUTO-On would not work on certain TVs, just sometimes. So like the book said I just turned the “AUTO-ON” to “off” and the sound always worked. Then later when the AVR was added, I just assumed the toslink was required for 5.1 (and it may be on some units?) – but I discovered on the Denon it is not; thus the HDMI from the Sony DVR works perfect with the Denon and the toslink is not required.

So as of now everything seems to work perfect this way:

Sony DVR >> HDMI >> AVR - carries picture and sound data

Pana BluRay >> HDMI >> AVR – carries picture and sound data including HD Audio – I wish TV had HD Audio!

AVR >> HDMI >> Pana Plasma – carries picture only
Pana Plasma >> Toslink >> AVR - all sound (2.0, 5.1 etc) is carried from the TV OTA ATSC to the AVR.

Do not try this at home.

Ok, so I am trying to search for the T.A.M.I. Show.

Well keyword search does not have period - at least I did not see it? Is this something else I missed?

So:

I search for Show - not there way too many.

I search for tam not there and not what I wanted.

I search for the not there either -that is not what I wanted.

Then I search for T - a very bad idea. After it listed about 2,000 showsI got:

WELCOME

Those of us familiar with the dumb boxes know the is not a nice WELCOME it is a mean WELCOME

After it finishes rebooting I hope will be able to enter and KILL the T without it searching to the end of the planet for all T's

The box rebooted, removed the T by itself (no action by me), and all is in order once again. The Digital Grid remains intact.

If you haven't found it by now, go to Movies search, then the Musical category. The PBS stations here are showing it all week.

IIRC ...... The sign at the front of the Theater said "Teen Age Music International". But it was a long time ago...... I think I was about twelve. Did you try seaching for that?

Thanks Guys

The TAMI Show:

Actually, we had seen the recording on PBS just a few days ago. I think they showed it here earlier than the national schedule. And I wanted to try to capture again to perhaps get the entire 2 hours in HD. It no longer shows up for the next 8 days here in Houston. It was really fascinating.

It was actually made in 1964 with pre-historic HD video cameras, and then captured to movie film from a picture tube, all in B&W. They should have just captured it on movie film to begin with - one of those eternal Why? questions.

Unfortunately, our local PBS only showed the first 12 minutes in HD - had about 1-2 black bars on each side. Then the station popped and it went to tiny Window Box for the remaining 2 hours - meaning I had to zoom to fill the screen. Even so, it was relatively sharp. Much sharper than any TV for that day and age.

If you Google it you can find out a lot of history on it; but a full release will be available at Retail Stores (BB and all the others) on March 23, 2010 about $16. The first Electronvision recording (Hamlet) cost $350,000 in 1964, and just a few months later the second Electronvision was made - The TAMI Show. They could have saved $349,000 if they had just put it on film to begin with? Remember that is 1964 dollars, I guess that is 3.5 million today?

The approximate video quality is:

Original Video Camera about 1100 lines of resolution (the norm back then about 525) at 25FPS, then played on picture tube (resolution unknown-I could not find it), then onto 35mm movie (maybe just 16mm?), and now supposedly to regular DVD widescreen, 480i and 1.0 sound I guess? It is not really HD as we know it today. But it is remarkable IMO.

I believe I Love Lucy was shot using a similar process.

Just closing the loop on an earlier issue. On Saturday afternoon, I did the TVGOS reset from the 9012 menu on my DVR that was not populating its listing grid. I had previously reset this DVR while KMOV was not broadcasting the TVGOS feed and it was over a week with no listings.

After the reset with KMOV broadcasting TVGOS data, on Sunday the time was correct and by Monday afternoon, the DVR had TV listings again. The new version of the firmware is really nice.

Thank you,

Lance

Day 8 Listings and ads are gone this Thursday AM.

It is about 30 hours into NumSearch 1, but it did recieve ads and listings the first night in NumSearch 1.

HostSUFlag only needs 1 bit to go at: 0xf78

ATSC shows lots of data coming in, but it has not populated anything yet.

It appears that it "wants to set HostChannel" again; but even if it does not, and if it follows the same pattern over the last 6 weeks, it should be re-populating again by Saturday morning.

Same symptoms. I do have 0x08 and 0xFF80000 for VBI info, but that may just be a cable thing. No clock or packet problems either.

No real news to report here. The "Listings" came back Friday morning, so 8 days complete; and the "ads" came back late in the day.

Still about half way through NumSearch "1". VBIState has started over from ? and up to 0x05 at least twice I have seen. And each time HostSUFlag hits 0xf78 very quickly

If you are bored, have nothing else to do, or want to force a memory overload reset from the comfort of your chair (using the remote); then for fun you can try this.

Please keep in mind there are no guarantees! Your Sony Box could catch on fire and never work again.

1. Turn box on and tune to any channel

2. Set Up a keyword search for the letter T (if you must you could use any letter).

3. Begin your search for programs with the letter T in them, and you should see one page of programs with a letter T in them

4. In order to overload the memory; begin paging down (channel button up/down - use the down of course) several times - you may have to go a few hundred or thousand programs down. Just hit the channel down button about every other second (perhaps ten times), soon the Sony Box will say on the front panel Welcome. It has now begun its reset process and will turn itself off. Do nothing until your clock comes back on with the correct time. This could take 10 minutes or a couple of days. If your area does not normally get a clock set quickly then you should not do this, or you could develop rabies.


WARNING:
Once your turn the box back on, confirm that your keyword search T is no longer set up in the box (this is how it worked for me - it may not work that way for you). If the keyword search T is still there, then Delete It Now! If you cannot delete it (unlikely), then you may have to do more aggressive resets to get rid of it; perhaps 9012 TVGOS reset -should do it, if not then maybe a Reset Factory Defaults. This could mean you would not be a happy person.

This type of Memory Overload Reset set should create an 800A reset that you will see on your Reset Error Tracker Page with the date/time stamp.

The 800A now has a definition Memory Overload Reset

It's easy to tell when things are working ok. No posts for almost 48 hours. I still get some "no listings" blocks. The new normal I guess.