Originally Posted by videobruce
Notice the VBI State on the problem deck.
Also notice the dates of LastASetEnd, LastSrchSt & Last SrchEnd between the 1st & 2nd decks.
You have to look at the download timer and the Last download start on the VBI Data-VBI info screens to see what schedule your guide is getting its data from.http://www.avsforum.com/avs-vb/showp...ostcount=20466
For reference, here is a link to both the digital and analog download schedules:http://www.avsforum.com/avs-vb/showp...&postcount=689
On Deck A you took the picture at 7:52pm EDT and the next DL Timer is 2:31:00 which is 10:31pm EDT. The last DL Start was 21:58:50 which was 5:58:50pm EDT. These times are from the analog download schedule so it means this deck is running off of analog data. This deck is working properly so far.
On Deck B you took the picture at 7:59pm EDT and the next DL Timer is 20:01:00 which is 4:01pm EDT. The last DL Start was 17:47:14pm EDT which was 1:47:14pm EDT. This was a type 70 listings download but looking at the next DL Timer the unit stopped downloading data because the unit was in use, actively being watched or recording, or there was an error in the download. This deck is using a digital download schedule.
What causes the VBI State to drop below 0x07 (normal working state) is the unit must obtain all the data it needed to build the grid every 24 hours. If the unit can not get the data after 2 days, on the third day it will drop the VBI state to 0x06 or lower to obtain the proper data but it will maintain the grid. If the unit doesn't get the data after a couple of weeks your guide will stop functioning and will have to rebuild it from scratch.
NOTE: When the guide is downloading needed data from a download period the VBI State will change to 0x08. If the guide doesn't need data from that download it will go back to a VBI State of 0x07 after about 2 minutes.
On Deck C you took the picture at 8:02pm EDT and the next DL Timer is 4:51:00 which is 12:51:00am EDT. The last DL Start was 19:26:07 which was 3:26:07pm EDT. This unit missed two more downloads in the afternoon one at 4:01pm EDT and 5:06pm EDT. This unit is using a digital download schedule but it missed scheduled downloads because the unit was in use, actively being watched or recording, or there was an error in the download.
The 0x0C VBI State is something I see on my version 9's beginning at the end of the last TVG1 download 5:26pm EDT to about 8:30pm EDT. All the packets that come in are added to the dummy column in the ATSC splicer screen.
Before I had the analog inserter in my cable company's head end I did a full system reset at 5:30pm and tuned the tv to my TVG1 host channel (KYW HD) and turned the tv off.
I turned the tv on at 9:00pm and had no data at all not even a clock set so I turned the tv off again.
At 11:30pm I turned the tv on and still had no data or clock so I left the tv turned on and tuned to the host channel. Then at 12:31am the guide started downloading data. The internal TVGOS clock set at 12:51:15am. I then turned the tv off again.
At 2:00am I turned the tv back on and had to select a channel lineup and editted some of the channels and turned the tv off.
At 3:05am I turned the tv back on and I had a full eight days of listings for 214 channels.
So the data that is coming into the ATSC splicer screen after the end of the TVG1 download period is not relavent to a device that runs on the TVG1 data stream.
I did this test with a pioneer tv with a version 9 eight day guide embedded in it.