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post #25801 of 29213
I have been watching this thread long before I bought my my Hdd-250 from a guy off ebay a couple years ago. It has worked flawlessly from the time I got it without me changing any settings. . I noticed a couple weeks ago the guide grid went blank and when I went to manually record SOA off FX the clock was off by a couple hours also. Glad I also have one of the Silicon Dust tuners so I can record on one of my computers. I sure wish Sony would step up to plate and offer a fix but not holding my breath. I also dug out my old TIVO series one (non-HD) that I can manually set a recording without an account. Seems like I am going backward in technology.
post #25802 of 29213
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Originally Posted by ZBear View Post

I have been watching this thread long before I bought my my Hdd-250 from a guy off ebay a couple years ago. It has worked flawlessly from the time I got it without me changing any settings. . I noticed a couple weeks ago the guide grid went blank and when I went to manually record SOA off FX the clock was off by a couple hours also. Glad I also have one of the Silicon Dust tuners so I can record on one of my computers. I sure wish Sony would step up to plate and offer a fix but not holding my breath. I also dug out my old TIVO series one (non-HD) that I can manually set a recording without an account. Seems like I am going backward in technology.

PBS host right? Manual recordings could be possible but a bit more work.
post #25803 of 29213
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Originally Posted by davygrvy View Post

5 months is enough time for me to plan, collect, and build up a MythTV box using a Ceton InfiniTV 4 cable tuner and a bunch of other stuff I haven't decided on yet.
Yet again, my trust in closed proprietary solutions in a tech world have been DESTROYED. I should have learned this years ago.
Great choice, Myth runs rings around ANY open or closed DVR/HTPC system. Can be a lot of work to get it tweaked to your needs, but well worth it in the end IMO. I ran one for 3 years to get clear QAM channels until I switched to Cablecard-based alternatives.

You are on a cable system that doesn't copy-protect a lot of content, right? The InfiniTV (and HDHomerun Prime) can only send Myth content that doesn't have the CCI flags set. On Comcast for example, everything is copy-freely except the premium movie channels. On Time Warner, nothing other than the locals is copy-free so it's basically unusable on those systems. YMMV.
post #25804 of 29213
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Originally Posted by mhufnagel View Post

Oh, I always do my research before I buy, especially on ebay. Too many slimballs selling over there. Sadly, you've proved my caution with the sellers there.
Just because you have the right to "pull a fast one", doesn't mean that it's right.
1. There was no "fast one". The situation was clearly stated,
2. The buyer has already previously purchased another DHG a month or so ago so he was aware of the situation.
3. Your post is uncalled for, unwarranted and plain wrong.
post #25805 of 29213
For revenge, on May 1 we should all pony up the postage and in UNISON return the DHG’s to Sony or Rovi. Getting a valid shipping address for Rovi would be the best because Rovi would think the freight was coming from the CBS station returning their TVGOS inserters.

Rovi is in California, under California law they must take the DHG’s to a recycle center, can’t just throw them in the garbage, big fines for that in Santa Clara/Silicon Valley. Rovi could start to refuse the packages and post them return to sender, so make sure the return address is Sony’s.

A priority mail large box cost about $30 to ship 10lbs in the U.S. and its big enough to hold Two DHG’s. Revenge is never cheap.

Yes I know this would never happen, too many virtuous cheapos will still be flim-flaming their DHG’s on eBay.
post #25806 of 29213
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Originally Posted by BOZOO View Post

[[.]]Yes I know this would never happen, too many virtuous cheapos will still be flim-flaming their DHG’s on eBay.

I guess that might happen for a while. I was thinking of starting a thread on how to use a DHG without TVGOS. I expect to be using mine until they melt down or something better comes along. I already have one Tivo and two Magnavox SD units. As for Sony, I would buy another EX700 tv tomorrow if I could find one. I guess it's a matter of where you want to use your energy.
post #25807 of 29213
I lost my TVGOS from Buffalo - but my box hasn't flinched since I still have info being filled in from the Toronto & Kitchener TVGOS's.
Channels that are only found on Buffalo TVGOS (such as some Rochester's) only have listings up to this Saturday - but all other channels still have 8 full days & daily updates.

Last year after the Canadian DTV transition, I tricked my DHG to use *3* host channels simultaneously by 1st setting it up for Kitchener Zip Code - then a few days later, the Toronto Zip Code - then a few days later again, the Buffalo Zip Code. The box retains the grid after each change and adds the new channels to the existing grid...resulting in a bigger master grid - with daily updates from all 3 (the 753 menu "VBIDL Sched" had 3 different StnIDs).

Glad I didn't have to redo the grid to change from Buffalo to Toronto. The weird thing is still seeing the Buffalo zip code "14209" if I go into the TVG Setup menu - yet the guide is updating without Buffalo TVGOS existing anymore!
post #25808 of 29213
Well, in preparation of the end of the DHG world I just purchased a Tivo Premier currently on sale for $59.99, 2 tuner 320Gb HD with $14.99 month to month guide. If I like it I will convert to lifetime guide. Meanwhile I will be working on a Linux or Android based box using XBMC with my HDhomerun for which the tv guide will hopefully remain free. See you all on the Tivo board unless the DHG gets a reprieve.

Incidentally, I'm still waiting for a reply from my contact at Sony, his first inquiries were not with the people he needed to ask. I'll let you know when I hear something.
post #25809 of 29213
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Originally Posted by cxgy View Post

I lost my TVGOS from Buffalo - but my box hasn't flinched since I still have info being filled in from the Toronto & Kitchener TVGOS's.

You're lucky. Yet another PBS feed goes to heaven.
post #25810 of 29213
Tivo Premier won't work in Canada - as cable cards aren't used here - so looks like we're going to have to give in and get one of the evil Cable DVRs. At least we should be able to get them to give us a year's free rental before we decide to purchase one (rental is a whopping $216/yr - purchase is $499. My Sony DHG was only $250 open box).

With the Sony, you can at least edit the Clear QAM channel numbers in the guide. In Tivo, you can't.
Edited by cxgy - 11/21/12 at 5:24pm
post #25811 of 29213
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Originally Posted by LimeyGreg View Post

Well, in preparation of the end of the DHG world I just purchased a Tivo Premier currently on sale for $59.99, 2 tuner 320Gb HD with $14.99 month to month guide.
If you really like it you should convert to a bigger drive or network it to a PC for storage. A lot of us have a TiVo now. It's nice.
post #25812 of 29213
DHG Special codes:

352747283 Save To Flash Memory
352747378 Restore From Flash Memory

Wonder if I should sacrifice my 2nd backup DHG and see what these commands do (with a Flash drive in the USB). Could this maybe save a grid? Has anyone ever entered these special codes?
post #25813 of 29213
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Originally Posted by cxgy View Post

DHG Special codes:
352747283 Save To Flash Memory
352747378 Restore From Flash Memory
Wonder if I should sacrifice my 2nd backup DHG and see what these commands do (with a Flash drive in the USB). Could this maybe save a grid? Has anyone ever entered these special codes?

I will test them if you want to wait until Sunday. Right now my test unit is running a test until Friday. I wonder though, since the 9012 G* test passes the FLASH part, do those codes mean "save to external USB"? No detail on SpiffSpace?
post #25814 of 29213
Here's all 4 "Flash" commands..

352747373 Reset Flash Memory
352742666 Commit Flash Memory
352747283 Save To Flash Memory
352747378 Restore From Flash Memory

So yeah, who knows what they really mean. Could be just for the Firmware even.
Edited by cxgy - 11/21/12 at 3:46pm
post #25815 of 29213
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Originally Posted by JoeKustra View Post

If you really like it you should convert to a bigger drive or network it to a PC for storage. A lot of us have a TiVo now. It's nice.

Joe, it has an eSata port so adding a 2Tb sata drive in an eSata enclosure is a simple expansion. I was looking at replacing the internal drive but quit that when I discovered the eSata port. I already downloaded the Tivo app to my Android in preparation biggrin.gif.

Greg.
post #25816 of 29213
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Originally Posted by videobruce View Post

But, does that apply to private sales?
Aside from the TVGOS issue, if a device similar as this (tuner) is sold that has a OTA tuner is sold to someone that has no local reception (for whatever reason) is the seller responsible for it not working? Better yet, a tuner with only CATV capability, but for someone that has no CATV service?
I would hope not. Would you buy a boat if the only nearby body of water was drying up and no solution existed?
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Why do you ask about private sales; my reply was responding to someone knocking down another's suggestion that Sony had no obligations to ensure it's product continued to work as intended...
post #25817 of 29213
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Originally Posted by WS65711 View Post

I don't think you'll lose the skip-back and skip-fwd functions when TVGOS goes away . . .

I appreciate the functionality is independent of the TVGOS listings; but without a grid in v1.21 my unit doesn't allow for manual record. I've therefore refortmated back to factory default giving up on future grid to ensure manual use. Sucks, however, having every recording reflected as "Unknown" with only a channel and time stamp to ID
post #25818 of 29213
cxgy;
That situation was described in the Buffalo local reception thread. Take a look there. wink.gif
CFTO is still up and running.

HonestLeeD;
It was more in reference to the now two individuals that stuck their nose where it didn't belong, shooting their mouths off with slanderous remarks that were not just untrue, but uncalled for and unnecessary. Especially the personal attack using terms such a "pull a fast one" and "Slimeball".
Sorry, I really didn't respond to your post properly.

BTW, I also failed to mention that the world will end December 21st in that ad. rolleyes.gif

.
Edited by videobruce - 11/22/12 at 5:30am
post #25819 of 29213
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Originally Posted by LimeyGreg View Post

Joe, it has an eSata port so adding a 2Tb sata drive in an eSata enclosure is a simple expansion. I was looking at replacing the internal drive but quit that when I discovered the eSata port. I already downloaded the Tivo app to my Android in preparation biggrin.gif.
Greg.

The undelete ability of a title is a nice function. I say that because when you add that external drive it becomes the storage for all new recordings. Deleted recordings will be on the internal drive until it gets full. If you get the WD drive, it runs 24/7 also but it has a power switch and a very bright blue LED and wall wart.

There are two USB ports but they are not enabled for external storage.
post #25820 of 29213
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Originally Posted by HonestLeeD View Post

I appreciate the functionality is independent of the TVGOS listings; but without a grid in v1.21 my unit doesn't allow for manual record. I've therefore refortmated back to factory default giving up on future grid to ensure manual use. Sucks, however, having every recording reflected as "Unknown" with only a channel and time stamp to ID

I used off grid manual recordings for four years. Try the .13 firmware since I never tried the factory .05 or .06 I get after a reset. What and when did you get the error? The .21 firmare doesn't like my four decimal point cable channel numbers. One of the "features" of .13 is that 1080i output stays that way and doesn't drop to 480 if it doesn't find an HDMI port working at the end of the cable.
post #25821 of 29213
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Originally Posted by HonestLeeD View Post

I appreciate the functionality is independent of the TVGOS listings; but without a grid in v1.21 my unit doesn't allow for manual record. I've therefore refortmated back to factory default giving up on future grid to ensure manual use. Sucks, however, having every recording reflected as "Unknown" with only a channel and time stamp to ID

Does the older firmware not have the issue that prevented you from manually setting recordings? You can still build a grid with the older firmware, if you follow my step by step procedure here. Although it mentions 1.2.13, it should also work with older firmware.

Mark
post #25822 of 29213
What is funnier is that Sony is trying to sell the new 4k TV sets with a promise that they will provide content and support. While a $25,000.00 TV is clearly not for everyone, reliance on Sony isn't wise at that (or any) price point. That was proven when the Slashdot posters recounted every time Sony dropped a proprietary standard leaving bought and paid for users in the lurch.

I too will recycle my HDD-250 properly-by shipping it to Sonys corporate offices by parcel post-does NY have the same stringent rules as CA ? If not, I'm sending it to CA. I wouldn't want it to be improperly recycled. I could toss it into the trash myself...oh, wait, that's what Sony wants. Parcel Post to CA it is then, for proper recycling at California rate$ !!!

I am inheriting a "lifetime" Tivo 3, which I will use for the OTA as the HDD is now, so I'll clearly survive-it's only TV.

On Thanksgiving, especially, this is a #firstworldproblem, but it is up to Sony whether I ever consider another product from them at this point.

All I want for Christmas is a clockset screen smile.gif
Edited by speedlaw - 11/22/12 at 9:39am
post #25823 of 29213
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Originally Posted by speedlaw View Post

What is funnier is that Sony is trying to sell the new 4k TV sets with a promise that they will provide content and support.

 

I think the collective minds at Sony and Panasonic (and Sharp) are on more worrisome things than after-sale customer support... like how to pay the bills!

 

Sony/Panasonic debt downgraded to "junk."

post #25824 of 29213
Find out the home address of Sony's
US president. Mail it there.
post #25825 of 29213
And from the completely insane FWIW Department.

Last week we moved from Houston to Dallas. This old house has a “twin lead” antenna installed from the early 60’s. It is just about to fall down from the years of weather damage. The signal is a tad on the weak side and it is that way for most of the stations received.

Anyway, the local CBS station broadcast on RF’s 11 and 19. And I think the TVGOS is sent out on both?

It takes up to 2 days for the clock to set here; about 18 hours first time through. The grid appears rather quickly; I think first time about 24 to 36 hours (including that first clock set). It appears my TVGOS is coming in from RF 11-0.

All this appears to be meaningless, because by Monday afternoon on Nov 26th the local station will begin transmitting from new facilities and transmitting from just one RF 19 in the future.

Hopefully the TVGOS will go through this short lived transition too?

It is a weird world.
post #25826 of 29213
^^
So are you officially "DallasPerson" now???
post #25827 of 29213
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Originally Posted by HoustonPerson View Post

And from the completely insane FWIW Department.
Last week we moved from Houston to Dallas. This old house has a “twin lead” antenna installed from the early 60’s. It is just about to fall down from the years of weather damage. The signal is a tad on the weak side and it is that way for most of the stations received.
Anyway, the local CBS station broadcast on RF’s 11 and 19. And I think the TVGOS is sent out on both?
It takes up to 2 days for the clock to set here; about 18 hours first time through. The grid appears rather quickly; I think first time about 24 to 36 hours (including that first clock set). It appears my TVGOS is coming in from RF 11-0.
All this appears to be meaningless, because by Monday afternoon on Nov 26th the local station will begin transmitting from new facilities and transmitting from just one RF 19 in the future.
Hopefully the TVGOS will go through this short lived transition too?
It is a weird world.

That must give some devices a problem. On KTVT both its 11 and 19 have a PSIP 11.1 from reading the Wiki entry. At least with it being CBS O&O you have chance to keep TVGOS until the end of April. Good Luck!
post #25828 of 29213
Kind of sort of DallasPerson, but sill posting as HoustonPerson. So many changes now. We may even move back in a couple of months OR move further north; so many unknowns now. The Sony Box just goes along for the ride LOL
post #25829 of 29213
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Originally Posted by BOZOO View Post

For revenge, on May 1 we should all pony up the postage and in UNISON return the DHG’s to Sony or Rovi. Getting a valid shipping address for Rovi would be the best because Rovi would think the freight was coming from the CBS station returning their TVGOS inserters.
Rovi is in California, under California law they must take the DHG’s to a recycle center, can’t just throw them in the garbage, big fines for that in Santa Clara/Silicon Valley. Rovi could start to refuse the packages and post them return to sender, so make sure the return address is Sony’s.
A priority mail large box cost about $30 to ship 10lbs in the U.S. and its big enough to hold Two DHG’s. Revenge is never cheap.
Yes I know this would never happen, too many virtuous cheapos will still be flim-flaming their DHG’s on eBay.

Want real revenge? Get any postage paid card (maybe some warranty card that you never sent in) from Sony. Wrap a brick in cardboard and tape the card to the package. You could even tape a picture of you DHG-HDD to the brick with a note asking if they can fix it. Send it and Sony pays the postage. Even if it doesn't go through, all you are out is the cost of the brick. wink.gif

I am still hoping they come up with some kind of fix.
Edited by audioxcel - 11/23/12 at 4:25pm
post #25830 of 29213
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Originally Posted by mabuttra View Post

Does the older firmware not have the issue that prevented you from manually setting recordings? You can still build a grid with the older firmware, if you follow my step by step procedure here. Although it mentions 1.2.13, it should also work with older firmware.
Mark

Thx; just caught this and looking forward to giving it a try!
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