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post #27271 of 29213
All this talk about inter-connectivity between devices - and yet we can't even get TV program data or the current time (!!!) into a DVR. Ridiculous. Trying to plan what to watch on TV a few days ahead is such a chore these days. It was easier when we had a paper TV Guide. Progress?

P.S. - My 1988 JVC VCR sitting beside me has the current date & time.
Edited by cxgy - 2/23/13 at 3:41pm
post #27272 of 29213
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Originally Posted by cxgy View Post

All this talk about inter-connectivity between devices - and yet we can't even get TV program data or the current time (!!!) into a DVR. Ridiculous. Trying to plan what to watch on TV a few days ahead is such a chore these days. It was easier when we had a paper TV Guide. Progress?

P.S. - My 1988 JVC VCR sitting beside me has the current date & time.
The DHG is not the only DVR on the planet. You have options.
post #27273 of 29213
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Originally Posted by JoeKustra View Post

The DHG is not the only DVR on the planet. You have options.

No I don't. I live in Canada. Cable DVR is only option.

A whole bunch of OTA main & subchannels are missing on cable. So yeah, cable or sat DVR is an option - an expensive one - but doesn't really replace what I already have (we have OTA+ intermediate cable+a few clear QAM HDs).
Edited by cxgy - 2/23/13 at 4:18pm
post #27274 of 29213
Yesterday, when I had had no listings (Los Angeles area) in the grid for a couple (few?) days, the power went out. When I turned the DHG on after about ten minutes, the face panel clock was not set. So, sort of like for old times sake, I tuned to 2.1 (CBS digital Los Angeles area), ran the 9012 G* Factory Test, and put the DHG in standby. In about a minute it had the correct time and date, same as always. Now the TVGOS downloads only occurred every so often, and took a while, and would not have been just the time over and over. So I am supposing that with or without TVGOS, the DHG was getting, can still get, the time from PSIP infromation, at least from a reliable station in the area. Of course, this may not be how it really works; perhaps the local CBS station still has the inserter working, just without any listing information being sent. Would anyone want to try this in an area where the TVGOS, including inserter, is totally, reliably gone?
Edited by cablenest - 2/23/13 at 8:41pm
post #27275 of 29213
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Originally Posted by cablenest View Post

Yesterday, when I had had no listings (Los Angeles area) in the grid for a couple (few?) days, the power went out. When I turned the DHG on after about ten minutes, the face panel clock was not set. So, sort of like for old times sake, I tuned to 2.1 (CBS digital Los Angeles area), ran the 9012 G* Factory Test, and put the DHG in standby. In about a minute it had the correct time and date, same as always. Now the TVGOS downloads only occurred every so often, and took a while, and would not have been just the time over and over. So I am supposing that with or without TVGOS, the DHG was getting, can still get, the time from PSIP infromation, at least from a reliable station in the area. Of course, this may not be how it really works; perhaps the local CBS station still has the inserter woking, just without any listing information being sent. Would anyone want to try this in an area where the TVGOS, including inserter, is totally, reliably gone?

Possumgirl can verify this, but the last report from LA was that the inserter was still in place. I can guarantee that after the inserter is removed, you will not have the correct clock after a power outage.
post #27276 of 29213
If the so called “solution” (if there is one), is to leave the “inserters” in place for date and time; then that will work for me. Using the Sony as a “third” tuner is ok. Of course all my recorded shows are “unknown” LOL

Life with TiVo is interesting. It could be a lot better; for example the current fight between Time Warner (the only super high priced service $100/mo. in Dallas) and Netflix only frustrates me with the TiVo – so much for streaming ugh!

After 10 years of HD; still the best and least painful way to go is BD with HD audio that “you” can control – nothing else comes close. I don’t care if it is the Postman that deliver’s; about the same reliability as the internet. Ugh At least that way I am able to get the HD picture and sound I want and paid for.

The world is nuts and going more nuts (play the video):

http://billmoyers.com/segment/susan-crawford-on-why-u-s-internet-access-is-slow-costly-and-unfair/
post #27277 of 29213
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Originally Posted by HoustonPerson View Post

If the so called “solution” (if there is one), is to leave the “inserters” in place for date and time; then that will work for me. Using the Sony as a “third” tuner is ok. Of course all my recorded shows are “unknown” LOL

I'm holding my breath until my inserter gets reinstalled. Date and time would be fine. For now I've moved several shows to the magnavox since I'm recording but not watching yet. I will probably keep one DHG running just to record Letterman. I wish there was an "every day" option since "daily" means M-F.

The picture and sound from a BD can be amazing.
post #27278 of 29213
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[...]
Life with TiVo is interesting. It could be a lot better; for example the current fight between Time Warner (the only super high priced service $100/mo. in Dallas) and Netflix only frustrates me with the TiVo – so much for streaming ugh!
[...]

Netflix is crap on the TiVo. I stream Netflix from my panasonic blu-ray player. There are occasional black flashes (less than 1 second) that can sometimes occur once or twice during a movie when the bandwidth requirements change. A few people have dumped these panasonic players because of these occasional glitches, they obviously have never watched Netflix on a TiVo. I couldn't even watch 5 minutes of a movie on the TiVo, there were several audio/video dropouts that were lasting 4 - 6 seconds each. The audio would come back about 2 seconds before the video. After 5 minutes, I stopped watching on the TiVo, and went back to the panasonic, and finished watching the movie without a glitch.

Mark
post #27279 of 29213
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Originally Posted by cablenest View Post

So, sort of like for old times sake, I tuned to 2.1 (CBS digital Los Angeles area), ran the 9012 G* Factory Test, and put the DHG in standby. In about a minute it had the correct time and date, same as always.

KCBS still has the inserter in place. As Mark said, we'll continue to get clock sets until the inserter gets yanked out, which could be any day now. The actual listings have been gone for a week now.
post #27280 of 29213
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Netflix is crap on the TiVo. I stream Netflix from my panasonic blu-ray player. There are occasional black flashes (less than 1 second) that can sometimes occur once or twice during a movie when the bandwidth requirements change. A few people have dumped these panasonic players because of these occasional glitches, they obviously have never watched Netflix on a TiVo. I couldn't even watch 5 minutes of a movie on the TiVo, there were several audio/video dropouts that were lasting 4 - 6 seconds each. The audio would come back about 2 seconds before the video. After 5 minutes, I stopped watching on the TiVo, and went back to the panasonic, and finished watching the movie without a glitch.

Mark

Interesting. I also have a Panny BD player complete with black flashes when bandwidth fluctuates. I notice TiVo and the BD player use the same UI and, for me, the performance seems about the same on both streamers. If one is bad, so is the other. mad.gif My Panny TV performs much better but it only supports stereo and (I think) 720P.
post #27281 of 29213
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Originally Posted by Possumgirl View Post

Interesting. I also have a Panny BD player complete with black flashes when bandwidth fluctuates. I notice TiVo and the BD player use the same UI and, for me, the performance seems about the same on both streamers. If one is bad, so is the other. mad.gif My Panny TV performs much better but it only supports stereo and (I think) 720P.

That is interesting. I was expecting Netflix on the TiVo to be at least as good as the panasonic, and was suprised at how bad it did. Maybe I'lI try it out again, and see if it still has the same issues.
post #27282 of 29213
Can someone tell me how to manually set the clock, fortunately I have never had to do this but someone said there was a way to do it and it was posted on this thread but I don't know how to find it. I can't use that link from Sony cause I don't have Android.

My clock was off 23 mins, then my system restarted on it's own the other day and then it changed to 53 or so minutes. So today I did a front panel reset and waited to turn it on 10 or so mins and then when I turned it on, it's now 1 hr 25 mins behind. If there is a way to do a FPR at a certain time of day just to get my clock to show the correct time, I would be willing to get up at 2:00 in the morning to do another FPR if that would work. lol
post #27283 of 29213
Great. I have Blackberry and iPhones. I guess I'll be setting my alarm clock for whatever random time the plug has to go in.

The FCC "free box" for encrypted digital cable goes away in April, so I'm keeping my now dumb HDD units for OTA use when that happens. I'm just lucky that I can put up an antenna and that I get OTA.

Off topic for this thread, but getting to encrypt all digital cable AND then forcing everyone to rent boxes was a great business plan.
post #27284 of 29213
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Originally Posted by FanofHD View Post

Can someone tell me how to manually set the clock, fortunately I have never had to do this but someone said there was a way to do it and it was posted on this thread but I don't know how to find it. I can't use that link from Sony cause I don't have Android.

My clock was off 23 mins, then my system restarted on it's own the other day and then it changed to 53 or so minutes. So today I did a front panel reset and waited to turn it on 10 or so mins and then when I turned it on, it's now 1 hr 25 mins behind. If there is a way to do a FPR at a certain time of day just to get my clock to show the correct time, I would be willing to get up at 2:00 in the morning to do another FPR if that would work. lol
Start reading from a month ago. Plenty of posts on the clock, reset and applying power.
post #27285 of 29213
Thanks Mark and Possumgirl for the feedback on the Netflix/Tivo. I don’t guess I will waste more time with it. About the best I can get is YouTube and AOL thing, but after about 20 videos it locks up. The HuLu Plus was also a joke, so I won’t spend money there.

When I saw the price for Amazon downloads at $20, that won’t work either. My antique Panasonic BD player is great and the does the HD Audio perfect; but it is so old it does not have the stuff inside for Netflix or any other internet stuff. It does have the either net port, and it get it’s updates that way, so it has always been to play the “latest” BD’s without fail – thank goodness for that.

Of course the “real” culprit in the whole scene is Time Warner by not providing what you (me) are paying for. They get my money, but I not getting the service. Throttling sux big time.
post #27286 of 29213
No hurt in saving people some time searching 27,286 posts.
I found it, it's post #26312 on 1-16-13 by poster Izzy900 page 878
How to set clock

Will try and see if this works for me.
Edited by FanofHD - 2/24/13 at 10:47am
post #27287 of 29213
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No hurt in saving people some time searching 27,286 posts.
I found it, it's post #26312 on 1-16-13 by poster Izzy900
How to set clock

Will try and see if this works for me.

Here is the link to that post. Of course they seem to keep changing their method of doing this, which is why it is difficult to give a clear cut answer about how to do it. I'd definitely use the front panel reset method for awhile (and avoid any major reset methods), since you still have a clock that is close to the actual time.
post #27288 of 29213
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Originally Posted by mabuttra View Post

Here is the link to that post. Of course they seem to keep changing their method of doing this, which is why it is difficult to give a clear cut answer about how to do it. I'd definitely use the front panel reset method for awhile (and avoid any major reset methods), since you still have a clock that is close to the actual time.

I only hope by using this method I don't lose my grid and channel line up (doing 2 FPR back to back) but we will see tomorrow when I turn it back on at 10:45am

Yeah I'm not unplugging this thing that is too severe just a FPR.
post #27289 of 29213
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Originally Posted by cxgy View Post

All this talk about inter-connectivity between devices - and yet we can't even get TV program data or the current time (!!!) into a DVR. Ridiculous. Trying to plan what to watch on TV a few days ahead is such a chore these days. It was easier when we had a paper TV Guide. Progress?

P.S. - My 1988 JVC VCR sitting beside me has the current date & time.

I find myself watching less TV because of the "chores". I don’t know if less TV is good or bad for me but I do know less audience is always bad for advertisers.
post #27290 of 29213
Well setting the clock manually worked by using the above instructions. It will make it somewhat easier setting up recordings now and I can confirm for me, my grid is still there and channel line up so doing a FPR twice yesterday did not lose my grid.
post #27291 of 29213
I also noticed that although my clock is now correct the machine thinks its yesterday's date. I guess that doesn't really matter since I have no listings anyway. If I use the grid to set recordings at each 30 min interval I should still captured programs ok.
post #27292 of 29213
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Originally Posted by FanofHD View Post

I also noticed that although my clock is now correct the machine thinks its yesterday's date. I guess that doesn't really matter since I have no listings anyway. If I use the grid to set recordings at each 30 min interval I should still captured programs ok.
When power is removed the clock stops. That means the date also. A word of caution: manual recordings that are "daily" are M-F only. So Day-Of-Week matters.

You can use the "no listing" and add up to three hours to the end time.
post #27293 of 29213
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Originally Posted by JoeKustra View Post

When power is removed the clock stops. That means the date also. A word of caution: manual recordings that are "daily" are M-F only. So Day-Of-Week matters.

That is the main reason I do the Wednesday night resets. It gets very messy if I schedule a program "daily", and throw in additional "weekly" entries to fill-in the missing days.

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You can use the "no listing" and add up to three hours to the end time.

I think you can only add two hours to the end time, but also subtract two hours from the start time, for a maximum of 4.5 hours of continuous recording from the grid.

- Kerry (Grid? I don't have no stinkin' grid!)
post #27294 of 29213
All this manual recording stuff gets a bit confusing when the Sony thinks its yesterday when it's really today. When I use the set up manual recordings option I need to say its 1 day behind the date the program actually is due to come on. I went to use the grid last night to record a program and the recorder did not come on when it reached that time then I realized it thinks its yesterday and not today.

I wish they would just start transmitting guide data again.
post #27295 of 29213
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Originally Posted by FanofHD View Post

All this manual recording stuff gets a bit confusing when the Sony thinks its yesterday when it's really today. When I use the set up manual recordings option I need to say its 1 day behind the date the program actually is due to come on. I went to use the grid last night to record a program and the recorder did not come on when it reached that time then I realized it thinks its yesterday and not today.

I wish they would just start transmitting guide data again.
With a manual recording the date is filled in, like the channel. It takes time to adjust. No pun intended.

Or you could buy a TiVo, CM7400, PHD-VRX or TViX and for SD, the Magnavox 535H.
post #27296 of 29213
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Originally Posted by FanofHD View Post

All this manual recording stuff gets a bit confusing when the Sony thinks its yesterday when it's really today. When I use the set up manual recordings option I need to say its 1 day behind the date the program actually is due to come on. I went to use the grid last night to record a program and the recorder did not come on when it reached that time then I realized it thinks its yesterday and not today.

I wish they would just start transmitting guide data again.


It sounds like you are almost ready to go over to the dark side. Well, there are at least two dark sides, really: Jump ship and get a TiVo, or join the those of us who reset our clocks to Thursday, 01/01/04 at 12:00 Midnight. Since you still have a grid and (I think) a front panel clock, you probably should wait until more people have tested reset codes from that state, however. Or wait to see if you can adjust yourself to remember your time offset (sticky notes help!).

- Kerry
post #27297 of 29213
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Originally Posted by KerryNY View Post

It sounds like you are almost ready to go over to the dark side. Well, there are at least two dark sides, really: Jump ship and get a TiVo, or join the those of us who reset our clocks to Thursday, 01/01/04 at 12:00 Midnight. Since you still have a grid and (I think) a front panel clock, you probably should wait until more people have tested reset codes from that state, however. Or wait to see if you can adjust yourself to remember your time offset (sticky notes help!).

- Kerry
I guess I'm on both sides. Yesterday I pulled the plug on my test unit for an hour to simulate a power failure. I gave it power one hour later and saw my clock was off (slow about 90 minutes). I did a FPR and after it came up I pulled power. Today I applied power and the clock was where it was yesterday but a day late. Tomorrow I'll check again. For me, 11:13 am is better than midnight. But I still have tapes.
post #27298 of 29213
I am amazed at the perseverance so many of you are showing.
post #27299 of 29213
No, not ready to join the dark side yet. This thing still records. Just this manual stuff I'm just not use to. Argh!! Just releasing some steam. smile.gif
post #27300 of 29213
I'm just hoping a lawyer gets shut-off and starts a Class Action Lawsuit against ROVI.
There has to be a lawyer that owns a Sony DHG-HDDxxx that feels SCREWED by ROVI like the rest of us...
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