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post #28741 of 29213
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Originally Posted by KerryNY View Post


There must be some correlation between stalwart DHG owners and programmers who used ancient equipment...

- Kerry

I've found the correlations staggering, especially as of late.

I checked this thread a few times in the past 4 years, but never had a desire to post. Never did chat rooms, MySpace, Facebook, Twitter, any of that. No interest.

After my first post-Rovi lockup, I had trouble with the clock set and asked my husband to post an inquiry here (he's also on AVS). He was talking about a switch to satellite which I was against. So he set up mac24 using an old e-mail account. "Here you go. Time to put yourself out there. Just be respectful and don't talk politics." I was nervous, but thankfully you folks made it easier.

I'd swear that Joe and my H were separated at birth. Always right to the point. Short and sweet. And when he likes something, he buys another "just in case". He has a spare for everything.

Finding out that so many of us were Basic programmers and have other such similar experiences and interests - it's indeed strange that it's tied to a Sony DVR made in 2005. Six months ago I thought these forums were nothing but 30-year old techno-geeks. I could never have predicted any of this, but now I appreciate it.

Still smooth sailing, over 14 weeks, no lockups or restarts, use it all the time ...
post #28742 of 29213
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Originally Posted by mac24 View Post

I checked this thread a few times in the past 4 years, but never had a desire to post. Never did chat rooms, MySpace, Facebook, Twitter, any of that. No interest.

I'd swear that Joe and my H were separated at birth. Always right to the point. Short and sweet. And when he likes something, he buys another "just in case". He has a spare for everything.

Still smooth sailing, over 14 weeks, no lockups or restarts, use it all the time ...

Thank you for the kind words. I started playing with hardware over 50 years ago. That gets you experience and a better grasp of fundamentals. I used to work on missile radars until I discovered that computers were usually inside in a nice environment. That was a no-brainer. Now, being retired, A/V and CE are better yet.

 

I am probably the only person I know that's not on any social media. Last week I gave away my 1995 Neon spare car. smile.gif

post #28743 of 29213
Still here, still have a few programs to watch off the Sony. Don't bother trying to record anymore since I have a couple of Dish Hoppers.

mac24 - you changed your name from your SG name! wink.gif
post #28744 of 29213
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Originally Posted by JoeKustra View Post

I am probably the only person I know that's not on any social media.

You're not alone. wink.gif
post #28745 of 29213
Just adding to the DHG owner & programmer topic. I've been doing programming since 1975, and have actually gotten paid to do it for about 25+ years. Started with the first microprocessors, Intel 4040 (skipped the 4004), Moto 6800, Zilog Z8 & Z80, etc, mostly all in assembler. Nowdays, I mostly do C++ on Windoze. Also programmed my Pronto remote control in Javascript.

Oh, and I also usually get spares for all but the most expensive gear.
post #28746 of 29213
I started on an Apple ][+ and 6502 assembler in the early 1980's, and 30 years later I'm still doing the full range from embedded RTOS's to Linux drivers to Windows GUI's. I don't know if the DHG attracted programmers more than other types of people, or if it's just that only programmers made it this long so these days that's all that's left on this board. My guess is you need an engineering mindset to tolerate the DHG.
post #28747 of 29213
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Originally Posted by pf2008 View Post

I don't know if the DHG attracted programmers more than other types of people, or if it's just that only programmers made it this long so these days that's all that's left on this board. My guess is you need an engineering mindset to tolerate the DHG.

I agree. Most other people would have trouble following all the conversations about VBI, hidden menus, 9-digit codes, etc., and deeper knowledge was necessary to stick with such a quirky device.

- Kerry
post #28748 of 29213
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Originally Posted by pf2008 View Post

I started on an Apple ][+ and 6502 assembler in the early 1980's, and 30 years later I'm still doing the full range from embedded RTOS's to Linux drivers to Windows GUI's. I don't know if the DHG attracted programmers more than other types of people, or if it's just that only programmers made it this long so these days that's all that's left on this board. My guess is you need an engineering mindset to tolerate the DHG.

The ability to record HD/DD5.1 hooked me, but the Sony & Rovi diagnostics made me an addict quickly. It became obvious this was not a DVR, it was an adventure.

post #28749 of 29213
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Originally Posted by JoeKustra View Post

The ability to record HD/DD5.1 hooked me, but the Sony & Rovi diagnostics made me an addict quickly. It became obvious this was not a DVR, it was an adventure.

Same here. Our cable company has always been a bit behind. In 2005 they had the networks in HD but offered no HD DVR. The DHG was our only option.

I never did much past the 753 and 9012 (G*) menus that were on the old Spiffspace site, and would like to think I could have done so without a programming background. But who knows? Much of the techno-speak still flies right past. I don't even know what an SG name is. Not sure I care to.

Aleron is right, you are not alone. No Facebook/Twitter here. Just this forum. My friends used to think that was weird but with recent news events they think I was pretty smart, and some are actually taking their pages down. Too late, of course.
Edited by mac24 - 6/29/13 at 3:53pm
post #28750 of 29213
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Originally Posted by mac24 View Post

Aleron is right, you are not alone. No Facebook/Twitter here. Just this forum. My friends used to think that was weird but with recent news events they think I was pretty smart, and some are actually taking their pages down. Too late, of course.

Aleron is normally right. There are quite a few threads on this forum that I frequent. It used to be much faster. I also post on the TiVo Community, TiVo help and Sony's help forum (pretty dead now). I frequently get calls from my sister since she finds I'm faster than calling 411 for a phone number. It's a family thing.

post #28751 of 29213
All these recent posts on computing have taken me down memory lane although I came from the other side of the aisle from most of you. I never had an interest in machine-level code. Managing the analysis/design of integrated business/manufacturing applications was my favorite brand of poison although I did become a pretty good COBOL programmer out of necessity. I do think there's some plausibility to the DHG/engineering mindset link theory. smile.gif
post #28752 of 29213
I have to admit I'm old school also, doing embedded system design for 35 years in sunny Santa Clara county. The DHG was impressive from the standpoint that you really don't need multi core high clock speed systems to do quality video processing. There's a lot to be said for specialized hardware. It was good to me. I have to admit it was discouraging to see the DHG constantly surpassed by 3rd, 4th, 5th generation devices released in the Pacific Rim with high capacity HDD's and Blu-ray recorders built in. My current fantasy being OTA only involves the fact that South Korea just came online with the ATSC broadcast system in December and there could be some spillover of grey market devices that work in the US. There's also several countries south of the border standardizing on ATSC and if we've learned anything since the advent of the VCR it's that people want to time shift.
post #28753 of 29213
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Originally Posted by JoeKustra View Post

.......I am probably the only person I know that's not on any social media. ......

This site
is social media.
post #28754 of 29213
Forums are a form of social media in a broad sense (i.e. a location to post user-generated content), but they are a precursor to the dominant type that the term currently brings to mind for the layman. "Social media" are organised around people, whereas forums are organised around topics.
post #28755 of 29213
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Originally Posted by Aleron Ives View Post

Forums are a form of social media in a broad sense (i.e. a location to post user-generated content), but they are a precursor to the dominant type that the term currently brings to mind for the layman. "Social media" are organised around people, whereas forums are organised around topics.
I am one of the few that does not fool with insignificant social media as well. No Facebook or Twitter. Just on a few forums of interest such as AVS, Citydata.
post #28756 of 29213
Did a survey that clearly identified Forums such as this one as Social Media. I don't FB either.
post #28757 of 29213
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Originally Posted by JoeKustra View Post

Aleron is normally right.

Things seem to be winding down here, and as I look back I think my favorite post since I signed on was #28471 equating our dealings with the DHG to the 5 stages of grief. Fortunately I reached step 5 a while ago - as have many of us.

We haven't heard from anyone stuck at step 3 for a while, but I wish them well.
post #28758 of 29213
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Originally Posted by mac24 View Post


Things seem to be winding down here, and as I look back I think my favorite post since I signed on was #28471 equating our dealings with the DHG to the 5 stages of grief. Fortunately I reached step 5 a while ago - as have many of us.

We haven't heard from anyone stuck at step 3 for a while, but I wish them well.

You should have been here around April 2009. We had about 300 posts per day. I'm still using my DHG and the units are still being listed on eBay. There are alternatives, but nothing comes close unless you want to play with a TiVo. It's not as much fun.

post #28759 of 29213
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Originally Posted by mac24 View Post

Things seem to be winding down here, and as I look back I think my favorite post since I signed on was #28471 equating our dealings with the DHG to the 5 stages of grief. Fortunately I reached step 5 a while ago - as have many of us.

We haven't heard from anyone stuck at step 3 for a while, but I wish them well.

Yes, the end is truly approaching . . .

post #28760 of 29213
A few months ago, I used a videotape to restore my front panel clock. The date was set to 12/16/2012. It has the 1.2.21 firmware installed, but no patches. It does have the correct timezone offset. Today (almost three months later) it hit the DST change, so my clock was off an hour this morning. Since I have only used the DHG a hand full of times since I recovered the clock, I decided just to unplug it. I don't know if I'll ever use it again, but I'll leave it where it is for a few months.

Mark
post #28761 of 29213
We still use ours to record from 1 to 4 shows per week. Its the third tuner.

Since the date and time are wrong now, and too much trouble to figure out, we have made a routine to make it easier to set up manual recording. Short explanation: set it up the day of the recording and just add the number of hours required to the bogus clock time. The AM, PM, and date are no longer relevant.
post #28762 of 29213
The next E-waste roundup in my community is 3 weeks from tomorrow. Guess where my DHGs are going?
post #28763 of 29213
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Originally Posted by mabuttra View Post

A few months ago, I used a videotape to restore my front panel clock. The date was set to 12/16/2012. It has the 1.2.21 firmware installed, but no patches. It does have the correct timezone offset. Today (almost three months later) it hit the DST change, so my clock was off an hour this morning. Since I have only used the DHG a hand full of times since I recovered the clock, I decided just to unplug it. I don't know if I'll ever use it again, but I'll leave it where it is for a few months.

Mark

Don't blame you. My box is 2 weeks behind. Come this fall, it will be 1 hour off for 2 weeks, then self-correct (assuming no freeze-ups). I don't know if I'll even bother to update the schedule.

Don't blame possumgirl, either. But I'm not there yet. Like HP, we use it as a 3rd tuner more than anything. We can pause, plus there's more in HD on the DHG.

For those of us left, most seem to have gone the TiVo route. Obviously there was an expense involved. But for me, things are better to the point where the I find the cost was justified.

In other words, I'm actually glad this happened. Anyone else feel the same?
Edited by mac24 - 7/5/13 at 3:53pm
post #28764 of 29213
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Originally Posted by mac24 View Post


In other words, I'm actually glad this happened. Anyone else feel the same?

I don't know if I would go that far but the TiVo makes a better STB than the DHG or what the cable company offers. Once you learn its functions and quirks the TiVo is ok. There are worse solutions. I keep waiting for an HD version of the Magnavox. For now, life is acceptable.

post #28765 of 29213
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Originally Posted by mac24 View Post


In other words, I'm actually glad this happened. Anyone else feel the same?

Absolutely, and I came to that conclusion very quickly after getting my TiVo. I find that it offers much more than the DHG, Having one unit taking up less space than two did is a bonus. So much so that I didn't want to use the DHG for a third tuner (and that brushed aluminum face doesn't match anything anymore biggrin.gif) Using WMC/HDHomeRun is a perfect solution for me. The little HomeRun hides behind my BD player and, I'm sure, draws less power than a DHG while giving me four tuners. Not that I need four very often being OTA only. smile.gif.
post #28766 of 29213
A fourth tuner to record would be great.

So that implies getting another DHG or a TiVo for that purpose, which cost a lot more than the DHG.

I would still pick up another TiVo in lieu of the DHG, even considering it would be difficult for me to “mentally” cope with two different running “Season Pass” machines. However that would be way too much work for me. So we will just miss some shows, not a biggie.

When they make the 4 tuner (or more) OTA TiVo with 2T drive (or more), hopefully with improved transport controls, I will be the first in line. Having all that in one box with one set of “Season Pass” controls would make it worth it to me.

That type of machine may never happen with the FCC and Industry choking the life blood out of OTA.
post #28767 of 29213
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Originally Posted by mac24 View Post

In other words, I'm actually glad this happened. Anyone else feel the same?

I wouldn't go as far to say that I'm glad this happened, but it did give me an excuse to buy a new toy smile.gif. I still use the DTVPal as my third and fourth tuners, but I haven't even needed it for a couple of months. It still maintains the correct time and date, and still has named recordings, so that is why it was the DHG that got unplugged.

Mark
post #28768 of 29213
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Originally Posted by Possumgirl View Post

Absolutely, and I came to that conclusion very quickly after getting my TiVo. I find that it offers much more than the DHG, Having one unit taking up less space than two did is a bonus. So much so that I didn't want to use the DHG for a third tuner (and that brushed aluminum face doesn't match anything anymore biggrin.gif) Using WMC/HDHomeRun is a perfect solution for me. The little HomeRun hides behind my BD player and, I'm sure, draws less power than a DHG while giving me four tuners. Not that I need four very often being OTA only. smile.gif.

I use my DHG every once in a while because of the great tuner. It has a slightly better picture than the output of my pc to the TV. +1 on the HD home run. Two tuners downstairs in the homerun, and a thrid tuner in my WinTV card on the pc in the office. The cool thing about the silicon dust box is the ability to record on the ultrabook over the network. Increasing the amount of storage from 250 gig on the DHG to over 4 tb of storage at a low cost is a plus with pc based recording. I was thinking about Tivo, but dislike the idea of a monthly fee...
post #28769 of 29213
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Originally Posted by mabuttra View Post

I wouldn't go as far to say that I'm glad this happened, but it did give me an excuse to buy a new toy smile.gif. I still use the DTVPal as my third and fourth tuners, but I haven't even needed it for a couple of months. It still maintains the correct time and date, and still has named recordings, so that is why it was the DHG that got unplugged.

Mark

So ... if the Rovi guide came back tomorrow AND you had the opportunity to return your TiVo for exactly what you paid for it, would you do it? Or would you keep things as-is?
post #28770 of 29213
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Originally Posted by mac24 View Post

So ... if the Rovi guide came back tomorrow AND you had the opportunity to return your TiVo for exactly what you paid for it, would you do it? Or would you keep things as-is?

I'm hooked now. If TVGOS came back today, I would start using the DHG again, instead of the DTVPal, as a backup to the TiVo. I've always preferred the DHG with TVGOS over the DTVPal, but without TVGOS the DTVPal wins. No matter what though, the TiVo is now my primary recorder.

Mark
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