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Originally Posted by theroys88 View Post

Hey guys,
Great thread. Just bought two of these units off Ebay. One is a 250 and the other is a 500. I was tired of paying Verizon 21 dollars a month for their boxes and there is not much choice other then TIVO which you end up about the same. My impressions so far. These units are big! Original remote really sucks. I have replaced both with two Sony universal remotes. Menu layout is strange and took a bit to figure out. Unit slow on tuning channels. I am using cablecards on both. The Rovi issue is a non factor here in Central Virginia. Verizon does not pass any guide information. All through the router. I also do not think Comcast does either. We had them 5 years ago and I have a Toshiba 47LX196 HDTV which also has TVGOS and I never got a guide. Always received no listings. I just created a account on TVGUIDE.COM and pull up a guide. One units hard drive does not work. The unit boots up and it tries to format then it displays a error code and then a message that the hard drive is bad and to call Sony. I then push Ok and it works fine as a tuner. I did call Sony for kicks and grins and they said all owners are SOL and it is Rovi's fault. I also called Toshiba and they also said the same thing. Sony also told me that the stations have removed their TV GUIDE equipment so it is a mute issue. For the price I paid for these units I am pleased. They will have paid for themselves in 8-10 months. The cost of a lifetime TIVO HD unit would take at least three years to pay for itself.

I just boxed up my 2 250's which I bought over the last 2 years and have never actually used yet!
I am planning on moving soon and all the electronic components are being boxed up and stored in a storage unit until I find that perfect home near my brother and his family, get a mortgage and move in!
Moving sucks, but it is going slowly but steadily. Luckily I kept most of the original boxes and packaging for most of my electronics.
post #28982 of 29213

Update on DHG Usage: 

 

It has been a little while.  I had wireless connectivity issues, to name one.  External HDD was also acting up.  Unplugged the HDD USB cable and the wireless connection is now SMOOTH SAILING!  Is it a USB, MB, or PSU problem?  Soon, I will plug my USB HDD back in, but this time in the front USB socket and see what happens.


 

 

 

A New TV with New Colors:  

 

 

I have been watching a new array of color hues via recorded programs with the DHG, lately.   We have been gifted a new Vizio TV (M401i-A3) and the image clarity and color is nothing short of spectacular, be it HD, SD, or Any-D! 

 

This 40” LCD/LED screen does have its off-axis contrast/color drift, like all LCD screens, but overall…  a Smooth Sailing Picture! 

 

Watching Gunsmoke, Bonanza, and The Big Valley (MeTV)… even on a lower quality sub-channel is amazing with all the stunning color hues never seen before!  From the blackest blacks to the whitest whites… Amazing. 1080p HD is like seeing a 2-and-a-half-D – without the glasses! cool.gif

 

I like to watch some B&W content with a custom color setting to produce an amber or sepia tone.   I did this with the Vizio VP322 (Plasma).  With the M401i, this does not work very well off-axis. mad.gif

 

A person must be dead center to see a particular picture brightness/contrast/color adjustment, especially with a sepia adjusted color.  

 

During the summer, the sun shines through the skylight striking the screen.   With plasma – it is a washout.   With this LCD/LED – it is virtually nonexistent!   HA!  I do not need that cardboard shield anymore that was used to block out the sun shining on the right half of the plasma Vizio VP322.


 

Some M401i-A3 Specs:

 

45 Watts.  Less than 1 Watt in standby.   Based on 11 cents per kWh and 5 hours use per day, the estimated yearly energy cost is $10.  The estimated yearly electricity use is 89 kWh. 


 

Clock Resets:

 

Lately, I have been doing an every-other-week clock reset, but this last time I did a reset after 3 weeks.  I did not miss too much on the show-ending credits.  If I were to delay the clock reset by 15 or 20 seconds at the top of a given minute, and do not miss too much at the beginning of show, I may be able to keep doing resets every 3 weeks.   Otherwise, every 2 weeks seems to be OK.


 

Freeze/Lockup Scare:  eek.gif

 

I turned-off the DHG one night, only to find it on the next day.   How did that happen?   That night, I am watching carefully, I sent the ON/OFF command from the remote and watched the numerical display fade away… Then a second or so later, it turns BACK ON!  I tried to turn it off.  Nope.   I tried to go up or down a channel.   Nope.   I checked the remote’s batteries.  The Radio Shark Battery Meter shows they are weak.   I replaced the batteries.   Sigh.  The remote will not do anything with the DHG. 

 

Therefore, I go the DHG’s Front Panel controls and everything works OK from there.   Now, I navigate to…

 

            Menu > Preferences > System > Remote Control Code (See Page 36 in the manual.)

 

It was NOT set to the default code.  (I guess I left it on ‘Code 51’ a while back and not the default ‘Code of 50’.)  rolleyes.gif
 

The remote defaults back to “Code 50” with weak batteries?   I know the manual states that when the batteries are removed, the ‘codes’ (other devices) may revert to factory settings. (Page 12.)  Could this be, even though the Vizio TV code is still there upon replacing the weak batteries? confused.gif

 

I suppose I could test it by setting the IR Code to 51 and then remove the batteries for a while and see what gives.  Anyway, IR Code problem solved. 

 

Otherwise, the DHG has been Sailing Smoothlybiggrin.gif

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

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Edited by CleCakYngMfd - 8/11/13 at 4:16am
post #28983 of 29213
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Originally Posted by CleCakYngMfd View Post

Update on DHG Usage: 

 

It has been a little while.  I had wireless connectivity issues, to name one.  External HDD was also acting up.  Unplugged the HDD USB cable and the wireless connection is now SMOOTH SAILING!  Is it a USB, MB, or PSU problem?  Soon, I will plug my USB HDD back in, but this time in the front USB socket and see what happens.


 

What?????

post #28984 of 29213
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Originally Posted by mac24 View Post

The main reason I switched the DHG from HDMI to Component/Toslink was due to the handshake issue more than audio dropout. Once the handshake worked, my audio dropouts were actually fairly infrequent.

With my current configuration, I've not noticed any audio dropout in some time and I'm using Dolby Digital.

Joe claims that the dropout is a problem at the source and switching from HDMI to Toslink will not help. He knows a lot more about this than I do so I would be mindful of what he says. I'm only relating my own experiences here.

I would be interested in hearing anyone else's opinions or experience regarding digital audio quality differences between HDMI, optical, and coax connections.

I used the digital optical audio connection from the DHG to two different Elite receivers over the years. I had audio dropouts (generally 2 or 3 per hour) with both receivers.
post #28985 of 29213
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Originally Posted by CleCakYngMfd View Post

Update on DHG Usage: 

 

It has been a little while.  I had wireless connectivity issues, to name one.  External HDD was also acting up.  Unplugged the HDD USB cable and the wireless connection is now SMOOTH SAILING!  Is it a USB, MB, or PSU problem?  Soon, I will plug my USB HDD back in, but this time in the front USB socket and see what happens.

 

Originally Posted by JoeKustra View Post
 

What?????

 

The Expanded, Uncut Version with Never Before Seen Text: 

 

[A] It Has Been a Little While:

 

Prior to my Aug 9th posts, [A] since I have read/post message(s) due to:


[B] Wireless Connectivity Issues:

 

The connections to the Internet and/or Router were dropping as frequent as every 10 minutes, but mostly longer times before a drop.  I had been searching online for this problem while fighting the disconnects for weeks and weeks.  Then I noticed some of my TV programs were not being recorded to my external drive (via Windows Media Center).  I saw my external hard drive light was not on.  It should always be on when active or in standby. 

 

I would also keep getting a popup message saying I would get better performance if I would plug my wireless network adapter (NetGear) into a HighSpeed USB port.  Huh?  All the ports are USB 2 and are set to High Speed (as per BIOS settings).

 

Upon searching, I came across something about USB ports I did not know before:  Ports that are paired next to each other usually SHARE the same voltage.   I had about everything plugged into the rear ports:  Wireless Adapter, HDD, MagicJack, Whole House FM Transmitter, and a printer.  (My wireless keyboard and mouse receiver is plugged in a front USB port.)

 

What I ended up doing is De-Porting everything in back except the Network Adapter and the MagicJack, each on separate port pairs.

 

Well, whether the ports share voltage by pairs or all the ports share the same voltage, it worked.   The dropouts have ceased.  I wonder if I have a PSU problem.   This computer runs 24/7 since November 2010.    The next move will be to plug in the HDD to a front port and see how it goes.  I did plug in the Whole House FM Transmitter in front a few weeks ago.   Internet connection is still steady. 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

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post #28986 of 29213
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Originally Posted by mac24 View Post

The main reason I switched the DHG from HDMI to Component/Toslink was due to the handshake issue more than audio dropout. Once the handshake worked, my audio dropouts were actually fairly infrequent.

With my current configuration, I've not noticed any audio dropout in some time and I'm using Dolby Digital.

Joe claims that the dropout is a problem at the source and switching from HDMI to Toslink will not help. He knows a lot more about this than I do so I would be mindful of what he says. I'm only relating my own experiences here.

I would be interested in hearing anyone else's opinions or experience regarding digital audio quality differences between HDMI, optical, and coax connections.


My receiver connections may be somewhat unique in that the receiver has inputs for both analog and digital sound on the same input selection. The DVR is set to Dolby and the source is OTA antenna. I have the DVR wired with component video to the TV and the TV is also connected to the analog output jacks of the receiver.

When the 5.1 sound drops the TV speakers will often continue to play the analog without interruption. The drops generally appear when there is an observable fluctuation in the video signal as well. The nice part of having both sound sources is that the analog often provides the missing dialog, the bad part is that from that point on the 5.1 is delayed and out of sync until the DVR is paused/restarted or fast forwarded, or something likewise. Many times of that and I mostly just mute the surround sound and listen through the TV speakers.

Another observation, and it's been awhile, but I used to have the DVR connected to the HDMI input of my TV. I seem to recall that sound through the HDMI would only work with certain combinations of broadcast source, like the only way you could guarantee sound transmission/reception through the HDMI was turning off Dolby in the DVR settings probably since the TV doesn't decode Dolby.
post #28987 of 29213
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Originally Posted by ZuberFowler View Post

When the 5.1 sound drops the TV speakers will often continue to play the analog without interruption.

I can confirm this. What was my primary DHG in the family room was connected via optical to my receiver and was also via Red/Wht to my bigscreen TV. Often my wife would watch without bothering to turn on the receiver. Sometimes the 5.1 connection would drop out momentarily when the TV speakers were turned up to audible volume, and the audio could still be heard (analog) through the TV . . .
post #28988 of 29213
The power was out for 7 hours yesterday - tree fell on the line.

Now:
No front panel clock.
No TVGOS clock
Internal info screen clock, way off GMT time of course - two days or so.
And the [2] went away and is now a [1]


Manual Records will be started just a few minutes before show time and the recording time padded heavily. Maybe that will work.
post #28989 of 29213
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Originally Posted by HoustonPerson View Post

The power was out for 7 hours yesterday - tree fell on the line.

Now:
No front panel clock.
No TVGOS clock
Internal info screen clock, way off GMT time of course - two days or so.
And the [2] went away and is now a [1]


Manual Records will be started just a few minutes before show time and the recording time padded heavily. Maybe that will work.

Check out http://www.avsforum.com/t/537711/sony-dhg-hdd250-500-official-thread/28900_50#post_23567815 since you have nothing to lose now.

post #28990 of 29213
their is a way to set the clock yourself unplung it for a moment plug back in after the welcome is done doing its thing check the time unplug it again and turn the power on at the time of the 2nd plug in time
post #28991 of 29213
the only thing that wont be right is the date but you could work around that
post #28992 of 29213
their is a way to set the clock yourself unplung it for a moment plug back in after the welcome is done doing its thing check the time unplug it again and turn the power on at the time of the 2nd plug in time
post #28993 of 29213
I knew there was a reason that spelling, capitalization, and punctuation were invented. Now I remember why. smile.gif
post #28994 of 29213

I've seen worse. Well, maybe not all at once. We should welcome everyone. These things are still selling on eBay. That is truly sad.

post #28995 of 29213
Well, my dhg hdd250 just started showing ---- instead of the time. Unplugged it. My room is much quieter now too without it running. Then I started thinking about something else we could appreciate here:

Do you think this is science or science fiction? It sounds doable, but reminds me of Fahrenheit 451.
Link:

http://www.teslamotors.com/blog/hyperloop

http://thenextweb.com/insider/2013/08/12/elon-musk-reveals-first-designs-for-his-high-speed-hyperloop-transit-system/

What do you think? I think it's interesting - what type of A/V entertainment would you like to see on the loop? I for one would need a few drinks before getting on board.


Edited by myoda - 8/12/13 at 6:19pm
post #28996 of 29213
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Originally Posted by myoda View Post

snip ....
What do you think? .... I for one would need a few drinks before getting on board.
I presume you mean alcohol drinks. Is being drunk and scared a better situation than just being scared?
post #28997 of 29213
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Originally Posted by myoda View Post

Well, my dhg hdd250 just started showing ---- instead of the time. Unplugged it. My room is much quieter now too without it running. Then I started thinking about something else we could appreciate here:
 

If you don't mind a little hardware work, this may help. The fan of the DHG can get quite dirty. More significant are the mounts. They are rubber which by now are rotted and hard as metal. The fan can not be removed without breaking the mounts. The mounts can't be replaced without removing the power supply. But if you wish to attempt noise reduction send me a PM or (better) an email @goggle.com. The OEM fan is no longer produced and replacements are usually louder. New mounts, made of silicon, are easy to find on eBay. Picture of the inside:

http://www.avsforum.com/t/1225369/just-whats-inside-a-sony-dhg-hddxx0/0_50#post_18100261

post #28998 of 29213
Thanks guys, I will give it all a good try.

HA! The first Unplug gave me a Welcome "06". The 06 is in the location of the clock. Maybe it is back to patch 06, maybe that is normal and I have never seen 06 before? Perhaps the beginning of time?

The fun and games continue.
post #28999 of 29213
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Originally Posted by HoustonPerson View Post

Thanks guys, I will give it all a good try.

HA! The first Unplug gave me a Welcome "06". The 06 is in the location of the clock. Maybe it is back to patch 06, maybe that is normal and I have never seen 06 before? Perhaps the beginning of time?

The fun and games continue.

I would perform the 9012 TVGOS reset eventually.

post #29000 of 29213
I probably will. Just did a front panel reset for the heck of it.

It went through Welcome….. then 01, then 02, then 03, then 04, then 05, and finally 06. Guess it always did that. Then the main window flashed 00:01.

I think my DHG have the firmware core of 06 and not 05 like most of the others; but I have really forgotten.
post #29001 of 29213
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Originally Posted by HoustonPerson View Post

I probably will. Just did a front panel reset for the heck of it.

It went through Welcome….. then 01, then 02, then 03, then 04, then 05, and finally 06. Guess it always did that. Then the main window flashed 00:01.

I think my DHG have the firmware core of 06 and not 05 like most of the others; but I have really forgotten.

All that sounds normal except the 00:01. After a reset the current firmware is displayed for under a second, but on the bottom line and alone. .21 shows as .01 as it does in the (I think) 9012 test. The same screen that has your HDD temp shows the active firmware. I don't know how to determine the factory level without a factory restore. I have .05 and .06 units.

post #29002 of 29213
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Originally Posted by cosmicvoid View Post

I presume you mean alcohol drinks. Is being drunk and scared a better situation than just being scared?

I think apprehensive is a better word. A little alcohol would take the edge off a really fast ride where someone else is at the controls - especially when traveling at subsonic speeds.
post #29003 of 29213
And for the 3rd step. I just turned it "on" and the clock came back and the [2] came back. I think it is off about 30 some hours. Still have grid with station logos. And the .21 is still there too.
post #29004 of 29213
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Originally Posted by myoda View Post

Well, my dhg hdd250 just started showing ---- instead of the time. Unplugged it. My room is much quieter now too without it running. Then I started thinking about something else we could appreciate here:

Do you think this is science or science fiction? It sounds doable, but reminds me of Fahrenheit 451.
Link:

http://www.teslamotors.com/blog/hyperloop

http://thenextweb.com/insider/2013/08/12/elon-musk-reveals-first-designs-for-his-high-speed-hyperloop-transit-system/

What do you think? I think it's interesting - what type of A/V entertainment would you like to see on the loop? I for one would need a few drinks before getting on board.



It's interesting that the price doubled since this morning when he said it would only be 5 billion. Even 10 is still a lot less than they're planning on spending for the slowest high speed line in the world.

And at 700 mph, you wouldn't have a lot of time to watch anything... Just sayin'
post #29005 of 29213
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Originally Posted by JoeKustra View Post

What?????
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Originally Posted by CleCakYngMfd View Post

Update on DHG Usage: 
 
It has been a little while.  I had wireless connectivity issues, to name one.  External HDD was also acting up.  Unplugged the HDD USB cable and the wireless connection is now SMOOTH SAILING!  Is it a USB, MB, or PSU problem?  Soon, I will plug my USB HDD back in, but this time in the front USB socket and see what happens.


 


A New TV with New Colors:  

 
I have been watching a new array of color hues via recorded programs with the DHG, lately.   We have been gifted a new Vizio TV (M401i-A3) and the image clarity and color is nothing short of spectacular, be it HD, SD, or Any-D! 
 
This 40” LCD/LED screen does have its off-axis contrast/color drift, like all LCD screens, but overall…  a Smooth Sailing Picture! 
 
Watching Gunsmoke, Bonanza, and The Big Valley (MeTV)… even on a lower quality sub-channel is amazing with all the stunning color hues never seen before!  From the blackest blacks to the whitest whites… Amazing. 1080p HD is like seeing a 2-and-a-half-D – without the glasses! cool.gif

 
I like to watch some B&W content with a custom color setting to produce an amber or sepia tone.   I did this with the Vizio VP322 (Plasma).  With the M401i, this does not work very well off-axis. mad.gif


A person must be dead center to see a particular picture brightness/contrast/color adjustment, especially with a sepia adjusted color.  
 
During the summer, the sun shines through the skylight striking the screen.   With plasma – it is a washout.   With this LCD/LED – it is virtually nonexistent!   HA!  I do not need that cardboard shield anymore that was used to block out the sun shining on the right half of the plasma Vizio VP322.


 
Some M401i-A3 Specs:
 
45 Watts.  Less than 1 Watt in standby.   Based on 11 cents per kWh and 5 hours use per day, the estimated yearly energy cost is $10.  The estimated yearly electricity use is 89 kWh. 


 
Clock Resets:
 
Lately, I have been doing an every-other-week clock reset, but this last time I did a reset after 3 weeks.  I did not miss too much on the show-ending credits.  If I were to delay the clock reset by 15 or 20 seconds at the top of a given minute, and do not miss too much at the beginning of show, I may be able to keep doing resets every 3 weeks.   Otherwise, every 2 weeks seems to be OK.


 
Freeze/Lockup Scare:  eek.gif

 
I turned-off the DHG one night, only to find it on the next day.   How did that happen?   That night, I am watching carefully, I sent the ON/OFF command from the remote and watched the numerical display fade away… Then a second or so later, it turns BACK ON!  I tried to turn it off.  Nope.   I tried to go up or down a channel.   Nope.   I checked the remote’s batteries.  The Radio Shark Battery Meter shows they are weak.   I replaced the batteries.   Sigh.  The remote will not do anything with the DHG. 
 
Therefore, I go the DHG’s Front Panel controls and everything works OK from there.   Now, I navigate to…
 
            Menu > Preferences > System > Remote Control Code (See Page 36 in the manual.)
 
It was NOT set to the default code.  (I guess I left it on ‘Code 51’ a while back and not the default ‘Code of 50’.)  rolleyes.gif


 
The remote defaults back to “Code 50” with weak batteries?   I know the manual states that when the batteries are removed, the ‘codes’ (other devices) may revert to factory settings. (Page 12.)  Could this be, even though the Vizio TV code is still there upon replacing the weak batteries? confused.gif

 
I suppose I could test it by setting the IR Code to 51 and then remove the batteries for a while and see what gives.  Anyway, IR Code problem solved. 
 
Otherwise, the DHG has been Sailing Smoothlybiggrin.gif






Thinking the exact thing. Does this guy live in Colorado?




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post #29006 of 29213
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Originally Posted by theroys88 View Post


Thinking the exact thing. Does this guy live in Colorado?

 
No, but perhaps moving to the northern part might help. [joke]
post #29007 of 29213
Hello I'm selling a couple of my 500s, and I want to make it as easy as possible for a new owner. I searched but can not find the info. I'm on ?.21 firmware. DVR works fine but no clocks or guide (of course) but records well and is mostly happy, in it's dumber state, I guess ignorance is bliss.
I sold one of my 500s recently and didnt reset it, but I want to ease the way for a new owner. THanks,,
post #29008 of 29213
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Originally Posted by gigaguy View Post

Hello I'm selling a couple of my 500s, and I want to make it as easy as possible for a new owner. I searched but can not find the info. I'm on ?.21 firmware. DVR works fine but no clocks or guide (of course) but records well and is mostly happy, in it's dumber state, I guess ignorance is bliss.
I sold one of my 500s recently and didnt reset it, but I want to ease the way for a new owner. THanks,,

Did you actually ask a question or were you just making a statement????
post #29009 of 29213
It was a Question, I Searched for the info as I said, but can not find the thread. I know Mark and others provided this info in the thread. I'll keep looking.
HOW TO RESET DHG, keep firmware, so it appears like factory new for easy set up for new owner. I guess firmware still matters? That is a question..
Just wanted to make sure I do it right for the new owner... THese DHGs can be finicky.,.
post #29010 of 29213
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Originally Posted by gigaguy View Post

It was a Question, I Searched for the info as I said, but can not find the thread. I know Mark and others provided this info in the thread. I'll keep looking.
HOW TO RESET DHG, keep firmware, so it appears like factory new for easy set up for new owner. I guess firmware still matters? That is a question..
Just wanted to make sure I do it right for the new owner... THese DHGs can be finicky.,.

Keeping the firmware? That's a waste since the .21 firmware gives you the ability to get the TVGOS updates from a digital source. I'll assume you will be shipping a manual. But to reset the system without losing .21, just perform a TVGOS reset from the 9012 second menu. I fail to understand what you feel is an "easy" setup.

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