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post #3691 of 29213
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Originally Posted by Bill R (# 2) View Post

The still have the 250 GB model on their web site and the price is $599 so that makes the sale price on the 500 GB model a really good deal. Get them while you can!

I just looked at that entire page -- that IS weird! I also went to Best Buy today and returned the HDD250 I bought three weeks ago. I told them the reason I was returning it, but (as expected) they didn't make me any kind of offer to keep it. Incredibly, they had the HDD500 on display for the amazing low price of just $999.
post #3692 of 29213
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Originally Posted by Lindahl View Post

Looks like I was given the wrong remote (open box), so I'll just buy one @ 1-800-REMOTES for 50$, bringing the total to 300$ - still unbelievable. I did the channel scan, but it can't see any of the channels. Since I don't have a remote, how do I select the digital channels? I can't seem to press the up/down button to find them. I expected them to be 8.1 and 10.1 (since I have analog 8 (CBS) and 10 (ABC).

Got it all figurd out. For some reason I couldn't get antenna channels without doing the channel scan first, and I had the antenna plugged into the cable input and was getting analog 8 and 10 from there (hence I couldn't find 8.1 and 10.1). Plugging the antenna into the proper input helps . An antenna scan after that revealed the proper channel lineup, now to get my guide filled in...
post #3693 of 29213
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Originally Posted by PhillyC View Post

The Sony with CC will work fine with ADS (and so will the Comcast 6412 and 3412). But remember that Comcast will have to insert a duplicate analog PBS channel in your lineup so you can get guide data. I was on ADS with my CableCARD for a couple of days and had to go back to analog because I had no guide data. AFAIK, they have not done the analog channel insertion in downtown Chicago yet. Maybe they have in your area.


I have comcast in annapolis md and we are ADS. I called comcast this am and asked about inserting duplicate analog pbs and they were CLUELESS about what i was talking about.

Now, if I set up the sony with CC and change settings to cable and antenna and I have a local analog PBS that passes VBI test - shouldn't i get guide data? I set it up this am and immediately got the correct time however i still don't see a host channel. Thanks
post #3694 of 29213
Has any one got a shipping confirmation yet? I got an email today saying my first order is cancelled. I went to the web site. It says "Cancelled on 02 / 19 / 06 due to missing or invalid payment information". I called the 800 number and waited for long time to talk to someone. I was told the order is cancelled by mistake. So the sales rep took my information again and replaced the order. I was told that they are out of stock now but they will get more in 1-2 weeks.

Since they do not charge cc until order is shipped, this makes me think that maybe they were ready to ship my order. But I am positive that there is nothing wrong with my credit card. I will wait and see what will happen to my second order.

I just hope they will ship eventually.
post #3695 of 29213
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Originally Posted by jjnv View Post

Has any one got a shipping confirmation yet?

Nothing for me, but I'm not expecting anything since it is the weekend, and when I placed the order, the website told me it was "backordered," but expected to ship within 1-2 weeks.

I just checked my credit card, and the available credit has been reduced by the precise amount of this transaction -- however, I am sure that is just the result of some automated authorization process. Still, if I end up getting one of these for this price, I will be pretty stoked!
post #3696 of 29213
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Originally Posted by buccikong View Post

I've been following this thread pretty closely and your post was the first that I've seen indicating that the 1.2.13 firmware only addresses DVI compatibility problems. I just did a search and couldn't find anything. If you don't mind, please let me know which post discussed it since I am interested in what the 1.2.13 firmware does because I just sent my unit to Sony for service. This post indicates that 1.2.13 solved a cable card issue, but not the tvguide stuff - not sure if that includes missed recordings or not. Whatever the case, it looks like 1.2.13 addresses cable card issues in addition to DVI compatibility.

Besides your post mentioning the DVI compatibility problem, the only other post that I could find where a unit had the missing recordings problem with the 1.2.13 firmware was today from user bommai. I'm trying to confirm if he has 1.2.13 or 1.2.09 (which he mentioned having earlier). If he does have 1.2.13, that means that he sent his unit in for service and will provide confirmation that it doesn't fix the problem.

Did you actually talk to a Sony engineer yourself regarding the 1.2.13 firmware only addressing DVI compatibility, or is that information from a post that I missed?


FWIW, I have the 1.2.13 firmware and i am still getting the 161 cable card coma syndrome. I do not believe that this firmware was the fix for the cable card issue either. I can only assume that there is another "fix" that the Sony repair dept does to solve this problem. As for dropped recordings, I have noticed that sometimes when I have a recording set as weekly or regular, after a week or so, if I look into the scheduled recordings section, I see the show name but with ??? instead of the time and date for the next recording. This never corrects itself and the scheduled recording needs to be deleted and readded in order to work.
post #3697 of 29213
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Originally Posted by fastep View Post

I have comcast in annapolis md and we are ADS. I called comcast this am and asked about inserting duplicate analog pbs and they were CLUELESS about what i was talking about.

Now, if I set up the sony with CC and change settings to cable and antenna and I have a local analog PBS that passes VBI test - shouldn't i get guide data? I set it up this am and immediately got the correct time however i still don't see a host channel. Thanks

If you mean you want host data from your analog OTA PBS, did you wait at least 24 hours? Can you get a decent OTA signal on that channel?

As far as Comcast, take my word for it that the upper levels are very much aware of the procedures concerning TVGOS. It's just a matter of getting past the CSR's and reaching a tech supervisor.

See my posts #3675 and #3685 on the previous page.
post #3698 of 29213
T3 is listed as HD, are you finding with an HD movie search the movies are actually broadcast in High Def?
post #3699 of 29213
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Originally Posted by Hoopnoop View Post

Thanks Bill!

I did the scan and get the locals and about a dozen music choice channels. Strange that I also get some channels that appear to be HBO on demand. It seems that when I do a scan it sometimes picks up various programs that are playing on demand. Problem is that the programs end and the channel goes blank at the end. I'll have to keep an eye on it and see what happens.

When someone in your neighborhood orders something On Demand you will pick it if the channel assignment used happens to be scanned in but the channel assignments fluctuate continuously. It seems many cable companies do not encrypt these. When the channel goes blank it means the person who ordered it stopped playback. You will also see it Pause, FF or REW on your set if they do so.
post #3700 of 29213
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Originally Posted by hotsko View Post

FWIW, I have the 1.2.13 firmware and i am still getting the 161 cable card coma syndrome. I do not believe that this firmware was the fix for the cable card issue either. I can only assume that there is another "fix" that the Sony repair dept does to solve this problem. As for dropped recordings, I have noticed that sometimes when I have a recording set as weekly or regular, after a week or so, if I look into the scheduled recordings section, I see the show name but with ??? instead of the time and date for the next recording. This never corrects itself and the scheduled recording needs to be deleted and readded in order to work.

There is a hardware fix for the 161-6 problem. However, although the Service Center seems to routinely upgrade the firmware, they don't do the hardware mod unless a CableCard problem is specifically mentioned.
post #3701 of 29213
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Originally Posted by hotsko View Post

FWIW, I have the 1.2.13 firmware and i am still getting the 161 cable card coma syndrome. I do not believe that this firmware was the fix for the cable card issue either. I can only assume that there is another "fix" that the Sony repair dept does to solve this problem. As for dropped recordings, I have noticed that sometimes when I have a recording set as weekly or regular, after a week or so, if I look into the scheduled recordings section, I see the show name but with ??? instead of the time and date for the next recording. This never corrects itself and the scheduled recording needs to be deleted and readded in order to work.

What show are you trying to record? I noticed that too tonight for Desperate Housewifes tonight for next week, however, I scrolled over to next Sunday and its not on, so that maybe why you're getting the ??? in the schedules recording list. See if your show is on that day and time.

Is anyone connecting this unit to their TV using DVI, and if so, are you having any problems with it as some have listed here about the firmware upgrade?

One other question I had, does anyone receive listings for their local PBS-HD channel (not the PBS-SD channel)?

Thank you.
post #3702 of 29213
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Originally Posted by theratpatrol View Post

What show are you trying to record? I noticed that too tonight for Desperate Housewifes tonight for next week, however, I scrolled over to next Sunday and its not on, so that maybe why you're getting the ??? in the schedules recording list. See if your show is on that day and time.

Is anyone connecting this unit to their TV using DVI, and if so, are you having any problems with it as some have listed here about the firmware upgrade?

One other question I had, does anyone receive listings for their local PBS-HD channel (not the PBS-SD channel)?

Thank you.

I receive listings for my PBS - HD and SD channels (Chicago area), but not for the recently added "Create" subchannel as of yet.
post #3703 of 29213
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Originally Posted by Rammitinski View Post

I receive listings for my PBS - HD and SD channels (Chicago area), but not for the recently added "Create" subchannel as of yet.

I get listings for PBS-HD in Los Angeles. The "Create" subchannel doesn't have anything on it (as of 2 days ago) in LA. I doubt that TVGOS will have anything on it for quite a while based on the fact that their kistungs seem to never be complete.
post #3704 of 29213
Anybody ever have problems with incorrect recording names? I recorded the olympics the other day, and it listed it as 'Hot Erotic Cabo Nights' or some such LOL.

CCourtney
post #3705 of 29213
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Originally Posted by TWinbrook46636 View Post

When someone in your neighborhood orders something On Demand you will pick it if the channel assignment used happens to be scanned in but the channel assignments fluctuate continuously. It seems many cable companies do not encrypt these. When the channel goes blank it means the person who ordered it stopped playback. You will also see it Pause, FF or REW on your set if they do so.

Makes sense. The interesting thing is that the actual channel assignments are always the same but I only pick up new programs on these channels after a new scan (actually got an Adult movie last night). I also have some ability to pause, rewind and fast forward. I think I will keep experimenting with these scans and see what happens.
post #3706 of 29213
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Originally Posted by theratpatrol View Post

does anyone receive listings for their local PBS-HD channel

I get listings for WGBH-HD here in the Boston area. (As well as the Create, Kids, and World channels.)
post #3707 of 29213
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Originally Posted by c1courtney View Post

Anybody ever have problems with incorrect recording names? I recorded the olympics the other day, and it listed it as 'Hot Erotic Cabo Nights' or some such LOL.

CCourtney

That can be caused by several things (likely number three applies in your case). One, the listing was wrong. Two, the station did a last minute change in their program. Three, the station send the wrong name for the program (in the PSAP data). Four, the channel is mapped incorrectly. There is a local PBS station in my area and TVGOS does not carry the listing for their HD feed. TVG does carry the listings for their sister station HD feed so I mapped the TVG listing for that station to my local station's number. That way I can record from the guide and most of my listings are correct but sometimes the other station has different programing so that when I play back the program it will be different than what I thought I was recording.
post #3708 of 29213
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Originally Posted by theratpatrol View Post

One other question I had, does anyone receive listings for their local PBS-HD channel (not the PBS-SD channel)?

Thank you.

Yes and no. Albuquerque market has two PBS channels - KNME (5.1 & 5.2) and KNMD (9.1, 9.2 & 9.3). I get no listings at all for the 9.x channels. KNME 5.1 is HD, 5.2 is SD. The TVGOS lists 5 and 5.2, and displays correct program info for both. 5.1 is the HD of 5 analog. I configured guide to tune to 5.1 for 5 & now it displays PBS HD, and even lists everything correctly.
post #3709 of 29213
That Tweeter page is now GONE!!!

I was in it and then they pulled it before I could order one, .

"This product is temporarily out of stock."
"Try a new search:"
post #3710 of 29213
Hi all,

After reading most of this long thread and being aware of the problems many people have had, I decided to go ahead anyway and buy an open-box DHG-HDD250 unit from BB for a good price (though more than the tweeter.com deal). Fortunately, my TV Guide populated overnight.

I'm using over-the-air reception exclusively, as I'm a bit allergic to monthly charges of any kind. Reception with my large rooftop antenna (5 mile line-of-sight to Empire State Building transmitters) is far better than the 4-year-old RCA DTC100 unit I borrowed. This unit had intermittent dropouts on PBS and sometimes other channels. I receive digital feeds for ABC, CBS, NBC, FOX, UPN, WB11, PBS and a bunch of others.

The only slight problem was that I lost all guide info when I modified my channel lineup and tried to get correct info for the PBS Kids (WNETK, 13.2) and Thirteen World (WNETSD3?, 13.3) channels. Still, a day later this recovered and I have complete guide info now, with the exception of the 13.3 channel.

So, I'm very happy with this unit and hope it will keep performing like this.

-Geert
post #3711 of 29213
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Originally Posted by Bill R (# 2) View Post

That can be caused by several things (likely number three applies in your case). One, the listing was wrong. Two, the station did a last minute change in their program. Three, the station send the wrong name for the program (in the PSAP data). Four, the channel is mapped incorrectly. There is a local PBS station in my area and TVGOS does not carry the listing for their HD feed. TVG does carry the listings for their sister station HD feed so I mapped the TVG listing for that station to my local station's number. That way I can record from the guide and most of my listings are correct but sometimes the other station has different programing so that when I play back the program it will be different than what I thought I was recording.

Well I had looked in the guide and the listing was correct, It was an automated recording as I was recording all Olympics on NBC HD, it did show the correct value when it was recording (I watched almost all of it the night I recorded it.) The channel is mapped correctly. The channel it re-associated the info to was 422 'Cinemax' while the channel being recorded was 312. I had recorded every NBC Olympic broadcast and it was only last Saturday nights recording that had changed the info while watching in the morning.

Does the PSAP get updated while the program is being recorded?

CCourtney
post #3712 of 29213
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Originally Posted by Mark Fontana View Post

Partition 3 occupies the remainder of the disk. It's an xfs filesystem containing the video files. I tried mounting it on SuSE Linux 9.1 (which supports xfs) and the mount operation segfaults every time. fsck.xfs indicates problems with the filesystem as well. I was also unable to mount the cramfs filesystem using the normal method (i.e. "mount -o loop -t cramfs target.cfs "). This all seems rather suspicious to me and makes me wonder if perhaps Sony has hacked up encrypted versions of cramfs and xfs. In the case of the cramfs file, this happens to make it hard to inspect the firmware files to ensure Sony has fully complied with the applicable open source licenses.

Has anyone brought the possibility of an encrypted cramfs filesystem to the attention of the GPL license folks ?
post #3713 of 29213
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Originally Posted by c1courtney View Post

Well I had looked in the guide and the listing was correct, It was an automated recording as I was recording all Olympics on NBC HD, it did show the correct value when it was recording (I watched almost all of it the night I recorded it.) The channel is mapped correctly. The channel it re-associated the info to was 422 'Cinemax' while the channel being recorded was 312. I had recorded every NBC Olympic broadcast and it was only last Saturday nights recording that had changed the info while watching in the morning.

Does the PSAP get updated while the program is being recorded?

CCourtney

CCourtney - Do you have a motorola cable card with firmware 4.05 on it ? If so, that is your problem.
post #3714 of 29213
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Originally Posted by PhillyC View Post

If you mean you want host data from your analog OTA PBS, did you wait at least 24 hours? Can you get a decent OTA signal on that channel?

As far as Comcast, take my word for it that the upper levels are very much aware of the procedures concerning TVGOS. It's just a matter of getting past the CSR's and reaching a tech supervisor.

See my posts #3675 and #3685 on the previous page.


All guide data downloaded perfectly overnight - I guess i wasted alot of time not realizing if I had setup originally with Cable and OTA I would have had guide data yesterday. Thanks for post about changing set up - saved me alot of trouble !
post #3715 of 29213
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Originally Posted by dozens View Post

CCourtney - Do you have a motorola cable card with firmware 4.05 on it ? If so, that is your problem.

I do have a Motorola CableCARD, and it was a 4.0x firmware version (I forget what the last digit was, I'll confirm tonight.)

This is a known issue? If so are Mots w/ newer firmware corrected or should I request an SA CableCARD?

CCourtney

PS: I do notice that I'm missing a number of HD channels from the guide lineup such as HBOHD's, SHOWHD's, InHDs, but other such as ESPNHD and TNTHD are shown.
post #3716 of 29213
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Originally Posted by dozens View Post

Has anyone brought the possibility of an encrypted cramfs filesystem to the attention of the GPL license folks ?

Not yet. A theory someone had earlier in this thread was that the byte order of the cramfs image was swapped. This is not the case- the "magic" at the top of the cramfs image is not merely swapped; it's not even close to being correct. Also, the code posted by Sony indicates that they are using a little-endian MIPS processor, so the cramfs should already have the correct endianness to inspect on a PC. The cramfs is encrypted and signed, apparently using GNU Privacy Guard (mentioned in the manual). This will make it quite difficult for an end user to examine or modify. One might have better luck finding a backdoor into the running system (hardware debug port, USB network interface, etc.).
post #3717 of 29213
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Originally Posted by mstanl View Post

That Tweeter page is now GONE!!!

I was in it and then they pulled it before I could order one, .

"This product is temporarily out of stock."
"Try a new search:"

Onecall no longer shows the 250 but the 500 is still there. Open Box unit at about 55 % of the original MSRP. Search for HDG HDD500 or HDTV recorders.
The open box 250 I received from them was factory refurbished and has all the latest firmware and software. Have had zero problems. Your mileage may vary
post #3718 of 29213
Hi, just registered to be able to post here. I have followed this forum for awhile now and have gotten great info. here. I have had an HDD250 since 9/05, and it works flawlessly on a Motorola cable card from my local CC. I don't have OTA and don't need it since the CC rebroadcasts all the local channels, including their HD programs. The software in the HDD250 is version 1.2.05. I have a great relationship with the CC's engineer, and talked to him today about whether they have plans to broadcast the TVGOS on a digital channel. I had thought I was getting TVG via analog ch. 11. He assured me I was getting it via a 75.25 MHZ frequency they imbed in their broadcast, and that they would always provide it that way. He said it comes thru the cable card. If you go to the cablecard menu you can see this frequency as the "out of band channel". I figured this forum would be able to comment on this since I have not seen anything about it in here yet. Does this mean the HDD250 will be able to work when the analog channels go away? According to the CC engineer, it will work just as it does now.
post #3719 of 29213
I spoke to a Comcast engineer today. This information applies to Comcast Motorola cards in the Chicago area.

1) He is aware of the "recording not permitted" issue.
2) The appropriate department is aware of Moto card firmware v. 4.21. It is being tested internally in this area.
3) His GUESS is that 4.21 would be rolled out in about a month.
4) He is not personally aware of what issues 4.21 addresses, but "dozens" has posted here that it has solved his "not permitted" problem. (I think he's on the east coast.) Therefore I have to assume it will PROBABLY solve the problem in Chicagoland.
5) I asked how the FW would be installed. ("dozens" had to get a new card.) He THINKS they can now update the cards remotely.
6) I reminded him that a simple re-provisioning of my card previously required that I remove and replace it before the change became effective. He is sure that re-provisioning can now be handled remotely without the need to reseat the card. (But this is different than a FW update.)

As with all things cable --- no guarantees. But at least we know Comcast is aware of certain issues and is working to solve them.
post #3720 of 29213
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Originally Posted by wiredkw View Post

Hi, just registered to be able to post here. I have followed this forum for awhile now and have gotten great info. here. I have had an HDD250 since 9/05, and it works flawlessly on a Motorola cable card from my local CC. I don't have OTA and don't need it since the CC rebroadcasts all the local channels, including their HD programs. The software in the HDD250 is version 1.2.05. I have a great relationship with the CC's engineer, and talked to him today about whether they have plans to broadcast the TVGOS on a digital channel. I had thought I was getting TVG via analog ch. 11. He assured me I was getting it via a 75.25 MHZ frequency they imbed in their broadcast, and that they would always provide it that way. He said it comes thru the cable card. If you go to the cablecard menu you can see this frequency as the "out of band channel". I figured this forum would be able to comment on this since I have not seen anything about it in here yet. Does this mean the HDD250 will be able to work when the analog channels go away? According to the CC engineer, it will work just as it does now.

The OOB signal carries the guide data, but it is attached to a particular channel. The cableco just rebroadcasts what they get from the host station. The problem with going all digital is that current cableco equipment cannot relay the data. But They are aware of the issues and new equipment has just begun to get rolled out to handle the digital future. I don't think any of it is actually on line yet. Comcast et al have agreements in place to work with Gemstar/TVGOS that assure things will work through the analog/digital transition.

Whether early DVR's like the LG will work with a digitally sent guide, I don't know. We are all hoping that the Sony is future-ready.

I don't claim to know what a cable engineer knows, but this is how it's been explained to me. That's my story and I'm sticking to it.
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