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post #211 of 2843
Check this link out for adjusting geometry stuff:

service man adjusting

Cheers
post #212 of 2843
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Originally Posted by randallrst View Post

I am using all inputs to test thoroughly. I have a new SA 8300 DVR with HDMI. (I work for Comcast). The picture looks very sweet using HDMI. Hopefully this set will not develop a 3rd flaw. Its not fun being a "tv tester" for Samsung.

Have you had any problems with the SA8300HD and the SlimFit using the HDMI cable? I am referring to loss of signal after power down of the TV and restart with the HDMI input selected.
post #213 of 2843
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Originally Posted by dracula View Post

Have you had any problems with the SA8300HD and the SlimFit using the HDMI cable? I am referring to loss of signal after power down of the TV and restart with the HDMI input selected.

Yes, I had one issue so far. Just pulled and replugged HDMI cable. Works fine. Tv still going strong after one week. A new record!!!
post #214 of 2843
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Originally Posted by randallrst View Post

Yes, I had one issue so far. Just pulled and replugged HDMI cable. Works fine. Tv still going strong after one week. A new record!!!

I don't understand. Do you mean that this problem occurred one time or that this is an ongoing single issue with the SlimFit? What did you mean by a new record? Is a week the longest interval between two occurrences of this problem?

Unplugging and plugging the HDMI cable back in was one of Samsung's solutions to this problem when I talked to them. The other was not to turn off the TV with the input set to HDMI. Neither of those solutions was acceptable to me so I returned the SlimFit.
post #215 of 2843
Harvey Electronics in New York/New Jersey is advertising the new SlimFit model TX-R3080WH. (I don't have enough posts to include a link to the web site, but if you Google the model number, you'll get the page.) Anyone in that area have a chance to stop in and see whether it has the same geometry issues that many others are reporting with the 3079?
post #216 of 2843
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Originally Posted by MLS View Post

Harvey Electronics in New York/New Jersey is advertising the new SlimFit model TX-R3080WH. (I don't have enough posts to include a link to the web site, but if you Google the model number, you'll get the page.) Anyone in that area have a chance to stop in and see whether it has the same geometry issues that many others are reporting with the 3079?

Welcome MLS!

These two sets are nearly identical except the 080 has the speakers on the bottom instead of the sides. They are even priced the same. I'm sure it's got the exact same tube and set-up on the inside. Hopefully they've been hearing from their customer base and revisited the geometry!

The link is:

http://www.harveyonline.com/products...60UVCPP18KF9AF
post #217 of 2843
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Originally Posted by Vagabond View Post

Check this link out for adjusting geometry stuff:

service man adjusting

Cheers

Awesome.. Thanks..
post #218 of 2843
so i am using an HDMI cable with this set and now my DVD player doesnt recognize Dolby Digital audio on any DVD. i have HDMI running into the TV and an optical running from DVD to my receiving. how can I fix?

thanks
post #219 of 2843
When exactly is the TX-R3080WH supposed to hit retail stores? I like the new design, so I want to hold off on buying anything just yet.
post #220 of 2843
I've heard August. And it is on the Sammy website. I would think any week now. September wouldn't surprise me though.
post #221 of 2843
Like others, I was all ready to buy the slimfit until I read this thread. Now I'm between the Sony 32 in KV32HS420 ($899.00 BB) and the slimfit. Which should I go with? I know the Sony is only HD ready, but I'll have a Comcast HD DVR (motorola I think) to run it through. Thanks for any suggestions.
post #222 of 2843
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Originally Posted by Yooper13 View Post

Like others, I was all ready to buy the slimfit until I read this thread. Now I'm between the Sony 32 in KV32HS420 ($899.00 BB) and the slimfit. Which should I go with? I know the Sony is only HD ready, but I'll have a Comcast HD DVR (motorola I think) to run it through. Thanks for any suggestions.

If you were thinking of getting the SlimFit, why not go with Sony's KV-30HS420? Then you'll have the widescreen you'd have gotten with the SlimFit at about the same price as both the SlimFit and Sony's KV-32HS420.
post #223 of 2843
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Originally Posted by Yooper13 View Post

Like others, I was all ready to buy the slimfit until I read this thread. Now I'm between the Sony 32 in KV32HS420 ($899.00 BB) and the slimfit. Which should I go with? I know the Sony is only HD ready, but I'll have a Comcast HD DVR (motorola I think) to run it through. Thanks for any suggestions.

I was in the same position you are in now. I did purchase the Slimfit only to return it to CC after two weeks because of the screen distortions. I replaced it with the Sony KV32HS420 (same price) and have been very happy with the choice. I liked the slim design of the Samsung, but for close to $1000 I couldn't tolerate the display issues that it has. That's my opinion anyway. I also receive my (sparse) HD programming via my cable box so the fact that the Sony didn't include an integrated HD receiver was not an issue.
post #224 of 2843
I think I may go with the Sony 30 in widescreen, I did not realize the 32 in was not a widescreen. Thanks for your help.
post #225 of 2843
Sorry, I meant to say KV30HS420. Definitely go with the Sony 30" widescreen version.
post #226 of 2843
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Originally Posted by scotlandcap View Post

I've heard August. And it is on the Sammy website. I would think any week now. September wouldn't surprise me though.

Today, I went to Tweeter (A Massachusetts Higher-End Electronics Dealer) and upon asking about the Samsung Slimfit, they said that they didn't have any in and then realized that they don't carry the 3079 but will be carrying the 3080. It will be in August 26, 2005 and they are taking pre-orders at 1000 even. They have a 30 day return policy and Massachusetts is having a tax free weekend this coming weekend(13-14) so I'm going to order one. I'll take a look in store(as they have far less of an issue with the massive cable split than BB or CC) prior to taking it home...but I'm looking forward to it. Will let you know when I have it in my hands...

-Scott
post #227 of 2843
Hopefully they fixed the geometry problems in the 3080 model and not just done a redesign ie move the speakers.
post #228 of 2843
Sammy tx-r3080 in stock and for sale at ABT. Sweet. They are out...Now to see one in my area.
post #229 of 2843
I'm a college student that is interested in the slim fit as I move around a lot when going to and from the dorms for winter break, summer break ect. We have narrow door ways and judging from previous experiences with TV's the girth is a big pain when moving sets around. I want a 30" that supports 720p, even if it's upscaled as I want a tv to break in the Xbox 360. I also hope to get a DVI to HDMI adaptor and plug my computer into this display. (I'll worry about the timings later) If I'm willing to callibrate this display, would it fit my needs? I've found it selling for a MSRP of $899.
http://www.pcconnection.com/ProductD...ourceID=k15505
Is this a good deal?
post #230 of 2843
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Originally Posted by Sonikku View Post

I'm a college student that is interested in the slim fit as I move around a lot when going to and from the dorms for winter break, summer break ect. We have narrow door ways and judging from previous experiences with TV's the girth is a big pain when moving sets around. I want a 30" that supports 720p, even if it's upscaled as I want a tv to break in the Xbox 360. I also hope to get a DVI to HDMI adaptor and plug my computer into this display. (I'll worry about the timings later) If I'm willing to callibrate this display, would it fit my needs? I've found it selling for a MSRP of $899.
http://www.pcconnection.com/ProductD...ourceID=k15505
Is this a good deal?

Sounds like a good deal. I'm sure you've read about some of these sets having geometry problems. This is not common to all of the sets, but it seems to be getting alot of time on the forum lately. You're always taking your chances with buying tvs. Some are good, some are lemons - and sometimes you just have to exchange one before you get something you like.

You should measure one of these sets against the measurements of the doorways in your dorm. Just to be sure it'll fit. They are slimmer, but not by that much - and they're still just as heavy.

It does seem to be a good fit for what you want to do with it though.
post #231 of 2843
The set will handle 720p input. It does not display full horizontal HD resolution (is not physically capable due to wide spacing of phosphor stripes), but this is actually not a problem for most people, who find the image quality perfectly acceptable.

As to whether DVI-HDMI will work, I can't say either way, but I have had one experience (with a different set) where a DVI-HDMI connecter did not work going from a Comcast HD DVI to the TV's HDMI. Nothing I could set on either end would work. Had to take the set back (or use component cables). Anyone else have experience on this?

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post #232 of 2843
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Originally Posted by xgrep View Post

The set will handle 720p input. It does not display full horizontal HD resolution (is not physically capable due to wide spacing of phosphor stripes), but this is actually not a problem for most people, who find the image quality perfectly acceptable.

As to whether DVI-HDMI will work, I can't say either way, but I have had one experience (with a different set) where a DVI-HDMI connecter did not work going from a Comcast HD DVI to the TV's HDMI. Nothing I could set on either end would work. Had to take the set back (or use component cables). Anyone else have experience on this?

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I used anDVI-D to HDMI from my Comcast box to my Sony tv and it worked great.

About horizontal resolution - no tube tv can resolve the full hd signal. The best out there resolves about 1440 lines of horizontal resolution. The rest range from 800 to 1100.
post #233 of 2843
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Originally Posted by justsc View Post

About horizontal resolution - no tube tv can resolve the full hd signal. The best out there resolves about 1440 lines of horizontal resolution. The rest range from 800 to 1100.

I think in practical terms (using real test patterns) this is true, but some CRTs are very good. These are computer or studio monitors, though, not consumer TVs. For example a Sony 19" monitor with a .24mm grill aperture pitch has a "physical" resolution of over 1600 lines horizontal, and a constant pitch over the entire flat screen, as opposed to the variable pitch (denser in the center) of the slimfit and other flat screen TVs.

If you want a true HD display, though, you're better off with an LCD than a CRT. At a big sacrifice in contrast, of course (and maybe response time).

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post #234 of 2843
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Originally Posted by xgrep View Post

I think in practical terms (using real test patterns) this is true, but some CRTs are very good. These are computer or studio monitors, though, not consumer TVs. For example a Sony 19" monitor with a .24mm grill aperture pitch has a "physical" resolution of over 1600 lines horizontal, and a constant pitch over the entire flat screen, as opposed to the variable pitch (denser in the center) of the slimfit and other flat screen TVs.

If you want a true HD display, though, you're better off with an LCD than a CRT. At a big sacrifice in contrast, of course (and maybe response time).

x

How do you define a true HD display?
post #235 of 2843
I saw the new Slim-Fit TX-R3080WH in a Hi-Fy Buys (a Tweeter company) in Atlanta last night. They were feeding it a pre-recorded signal from a digital hard drive, with HD material. As a result, I was unable to select a signal with a ticker banner accross the bottom, which I understand is the easiest way to detect the previously mentioned geometry problems with the 3079.

When tuned to a source with no input, the static screen included a scrolling horizontal line. I was unable to detect a noticeable flaw with the relative "straightness" of the line, at either the top or bottom of the screen (but I am a novice). I had previously seen a 3079 model at BB, and did see a flaw with the ticker banner - it looked more like a speed bump, though, than a gradual bowing of the line.

Additionally, the 3080 seemed to have more frequent "missed pixels" (please forgive my deficient vocabulary - I'm referring to those greyed-out spots on the screen that occur now and then) than the nearby Sonys displaying the same source.

I also think I like the look and shape of the 3079 cabinet better, but that's just a personal opinion.

Has anyone else had an opportunity to see the 3080 in person?
post #236 of 2843
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Originally Posted by justsc View Post

I used anDVI-D to HDMI from my Comcast box to my Sony tv and it worked great.

About horizontal resolution - no tube tv can resolve the full hd signal. The best out there resolves about 1440 lines of horizontal resolution. The rest range from 800 to 1100.

And how does this model fare? 800, 900? How many lines does the TXR have?
post #237 of 2843
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Originally Posted by Sonikku View Post

And how does this model fare? 800, 900? How many lines does the TXR have?

Samsung states in the on-line data sheet that these sets have a maximum of 800 lines horizontal resolution.

I have the Sony KV-34HS420 and rumor has it that it has approx. 850 of horizontal resolution. The Sony XS/XBR series' are reported to have 1,440 lines of horizontal resolution.
post #238 of 2843
So sitting about 6-8 feet away, would I notice the difference in pic quality between a 800 line HDTV and a 1440 line HDTV?
post #239 of 2843
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Originally Posted by Vegeta View Post

So sitting about 6-8 feet away, would I notice the difference in pic quality between a 800 line HDTV and a 1440 line HDTV?

I don't think so. Maybe one of the XS/XBR owners can chime in here. I have not spent enough time in front of one of those sets at that distance to give you an absolute yes or no.
post #240 of 2843
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Originally Posted by justsc View Post

Samsung states in the on-line data sheet that these sets have a maximum of 800 lines horizontal resolution.

I have the Sony KV-34HS420 and rumor has it that it has approx. 850 of horizontal resolution. The Sony XS/XBR series' are reported to have 1,440 lines of horizontal resolution.

I reported earlier in this thread that I measured the horizontal lines of the Slimfit at approx 500 in the corners. This is not HD, nor even SD.

What I meant by "true HD" display is one that actually delivers 1280 horizontal lines or more at all points on the screen. The best CRTs do this, as do the better flatpanels, DLPs, etc.

It probably isn't critically important for gaming, but obviously is for use as a computer display (you couldn't read the characters otherwise).

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