The Official Samsung SlimFit HDTV Thread... - Page 28

Does anybody know what is different (besides styling) about the new 2006 models (S instead of R)?

Is the picture quality any better?

Is the resolution higher?

Have any problems been fixed?

DNIe is Samsung's suite of image processing/enhancement features called Digital Natural Image Engine. Included are edge enhancement, color purity enhancement, noise reduction, etc. Sony calls it DRC, Digital Reality Creation.

The reason that your set shows little difference between DNIe enhancement and your picture "as is," is probably because you've got your picture tuned well already. I know others who turn this off in the SM as they prefer their own adjustments and dislike some of the artificial enhancements. I'm not sure if nowadays DNIe can be turned off in the user menu or if this still requires use of the SM.

If memory serves, I believe I've also read about DNIe not working over an HDMI interface. This makes sense as it's a feature set for improving PQ of SD signals. It's apparently bypassed for purely digital signals. That confuses me a bit as you can still transmit SD signals over a digital cable. I wonder if it's only defeated for HD signals transmitted over an HDMI interface. On Sony sets the DRC circuit is bypassed when receiving HD signals.

"is probably because you've got your picture tuned well already."--Must be because I have a great mentor...hmmm.

If this works like most such relationships, it won't be long before you outshine that mentor of yours. Then you can pick up a newbie and it all comes full circle.

Keep up the good work!

I picked up my 30" slimfit (TX-R3079WH) in January. Everything looks good, ecept when I use component signal. When the TV is in component mode the entire right side of the TV has purple/blue and green bands that curve from the center to the edge, the intesity of the bands becomes more apparent at the right edge. I called Samsung and they sent a service out to pick it up, and when they returned it 2 weeks later they had fixed nothing, but the bill claims it was fixed and tested. So now im having Samsung send out another service team from a different repair shop to pick it up and work on it.

Another strange thing is when I use the component inputs as normal A/V inputs with A/V hookups to an XBOX and a PS2 the picture is fine, but when I have Both systems using the same inputs but with component cable and set to component source, the picture get the blueish-purple and green bands again. So I know its not the ports for the componet inputs because the A/V signal should have been messed up too. IT has something to do witht he TV being set to component signal.

Also, I haven't tested, the HDMI port yet. As long as HDMI doesn't cause strange color bands ill be ok with messed up components. So my question is, has anyone experienced HDMI problems? I currently have no way to test, and Im kind of scared to test it and see that infact that the HDMI signal is messed up too. From what Iv'e read no one has really mentioned HDMI problems.

Are you absolutely certain the problem isn't with your component cables? I recommend trying a different set of component cables just to be sure. It could turn out the tv is just fine.

I am 100% positive. Faulty cables was the first thing I suspected, and Ive tried 4 different sets now on my PS2, and I have also tried my Xbox, and an Xbox 360. Nothing has aleviated the problem. I have used Monster component cables, Sony component cables, Xbox 360 component cables and MadCatz component cables. All four gave the same results.

I knew about the problem the day I got the TV but I assumed it was my cables. A month and a half went by and a friend brought an Xbox 360 over, and it had the same problem with different cables. It was after that when I started testing my components like a mad man. Since it was over a month when I found out the TV had a problem I cant return it now.

I have just a couple of thoughts.

I believe your Samsung model has two component input ports, correct? Oftentimes, HD tv manufacturers set-up one of the component inputs for everything from 480i to 1080i, while the other one is set-up for only 480i and 480p. I don't know if that factors in at all to what you are facing, but it might be useful to switch which component inputs you use and try it out. Based on you last note I bet you've already tried this, but I thought I'd suggest it anyway.

I get a little confused by a couple of things you wrote:

"When the TV is in component mode"

and

"Another strange thing is when I use the component inputs as normal A/V inputs with A/V hookups to an XBOX and a PS2 the picture is fine, but when I have Both systems using the same inputs but with component cable and set to component source"

I was wondering if you could elaborate a little to help me better understand what you're doing. I'm assuming with the 2nd one that you are using part of a component cable to act as a composite cable - is this correct? Anyway, if you're interested in explaining a little further I might be able to help more.

Thanks for the tip.

Filed a complaint with the BBB.
I'll keep you posted as to what Samsung will do.

You're very welcome.

You might want to keep your trips into the SM to yourself, unless you've already mentioned it. Some OEM's will try to assert that you've voided the warranty by going into the SM and making adjustments. Some actually have this written into their warranty documents.

I'm not saying to lie, just don't tell 'em more than what they ask for.

Again, Best of Luck!

hay guys. can the SlimFit actually display 720p or is it up-scaled to 1080i.

The SlimFit cannot display 720p, but upscales it to 1080i. There is no loss of picture quality in this processing.

Thanks. I know it can't display but this guy in Xbox forums flaming everyone and saying in fact it can display 720p so I just wanted to double check.

Thx for the help

http://forums.xbox.com/6/3239809/ShowPost.aspx#3239809

You'd be amazed at who reads/trolls these forums. Keep that under your hat indeed.

I just took a look at the XBox forum and I see they're really throwing a tizzy over there.

There is no consumer crt that displays 720p. I have been through this with Samsung directly. Unfortunately their data sheets, online, are incorrect when they show "Display Format 480p/1080i/720p." I know it says this because I called them on it numerous times. I also realize it says "Maximum 800 Lines." My Sony 34" set only has 850 lines of horizontal resolution (which is the number they're talking about) and it's still a 1080i set. They are mistaking horizontal for vertical resolution.

Like all other consumer crt hd sets, Samsung's tv's take 720p, deinterlace it and scale it to 1080i.

jeez I've wasted too much time on that thread -_-

that guy has no clue what hes talking about...

-I R3PUBL1CAN I

Update on my SlimFit Saga:

Should have probably taken it back to CC, but I didn't. I'm stubborn that way.

The local Samsung authorized repair facility picked it up last thursday. Remember that both Samsung Support and my Circuit City @home extended service both use this company. They're a one-horse pit. They answer their phones nonchallantly (when they answer at all). I've got both CC and Samsung on them, but I've already taken it up a notch by contacting some people I know that can get some answers from higher-ups at Samsung here in America.

When I finally got through to the local shop the uninformed woman said they're waiting on a circuit board replacement for the unit. When Samsung called back (they're inept but the woman I'm dealing with tries hard) she said that she got through, that they had already replaced the part, and are testing it. Not sure what the deal is but they said I should have my TV back Friday.

What they don't know is that when I call tomorrow I'm going to say I am stopping in to see what th eproblem is - I'm not going ot have them deliver if it's not satisfactory. if it's not I'm going to raise holy hell with both Samsung and CC and get a replacement.

I probably should just give up and get a different television, but now I'm a mission from god to get this one back in my house working properly.

This guy just won't stop:

"See thats the problem. You take it to another forum. It isnt game over far from game over. Those people are just like you over there. There brainwashed thinking it does scaling or converting."

I give up.

You really are a piece of work arent ya? You come over here and bash me. How dare you. Who the hell do you think you are? You want to start trouble. Ill start right back.

You have no clue what your talking about.

I hope this guy gets banned, quick. He fumes with superiority complex.

Superiority complex? actually in my 'vast years' of experience on the net I've found that folks like this are the types who have a severe inferiority complex and end up acting this way on the boards since they feel protected in anonymity.

I know you are, so what am I?

I know you are, so what am I?

Grow up kiddo. You're out of your league here.

Huh?

I recently bought my 30" slimfit, and I`m very happy with it (shure, some problems with geometry that I already fixed with SM), I'm planning to buy an upscaler dvd, but I'm wondering, do any of you guys know if the slimfit already upscales 480p to its "native" resolution (1080i)?, last night I was watching Chronicles of Riddick and I saw LOTS of detail on the picture, and I though WOW, if this is 480p, I need and upscaler dvd, sorry about the newbie question, but I really want to know before buying anything, thanx in advance

Villa - Welcome to the forums fellow Samsung owner!

These guys are great and very knowledgeable, so don't worry about a "Newbie" question. Heck, I am a big time newbie myself but have gained lot's o' knowledge with theese guys.

I have an dvd player that upscales connected via HDMI to my 30 inch slimfit and it really brings out the detail in dvd's. I can't give you a specific answer to your question but I can tell you that I do notice a difference from my old dvd player and tv combo I had.

I think one of the things it depends on is the quality of the dvd transfer though. Sometimes, you just can't make something better if it starts out as garbage to begin with. So if the transfer is not good, well it's not going to be upscaled to look better in most cases.

If you wanna pop your eyes out of your head - get a new dvd player that can upscale, connect it via HDMI, and pick up a couple of Superbit dvd titles. WOW!!!!!!!! Is all I can say.

Good luck and enjoy your tv! Someone less long winded and more knowledgeable will answer your question soon I am sure.

thanx a lot deadzone, I'll do it

villa,

As Deadzone has said "Welcome!"

The SlimFit has essentially two native resolutions - 480p and 1080i. Incoming 480i signals are automatically deinterlaced and presented as 480p to the screen. If you have a standard dvd player and set it to output 480p, then the tv sends that signal directly to the screen. If you have an upconverting dvd player, then you have more choices, as it will give you options for 480i/p, 720p and 1080i.

I have now used two upconverting dvd players - a Samsung HD850 and an Oppo OPDV971h DVD Player. I returned the Samsung player as it was crushing blacks badly (all dark areas were just too dark to see any details). On the other hand, I just love my Oppo. If you look at the DVD Player (Standard Definition) here at AVS there are two major threads dedicated to the Oppo.

Best of Luck!

justsc,
I remember a few posts back when you were telling me about your thoughts on the Samsung HD-850, I'm pretty sure the OPPO deck is awesome but my main reasons for using the Sammy deck was that it's hacked Region-Free and the HDCP is disabled. Push come to shove, I might invest in another player - maybe even the OPPO!

To your knowledge can your deck be remote hacked to be Region-Free'd and have HDCP disabled?

thanks!