Algolith Dragonfly Reviews - Page 9  

Correct. That is for new orders, not those that we're preordered.

so what about for those that were preordered , any confirmed date yet ,

grega

Yes Jason, please let us know about ETA for those pre ordered Dragons and Mosquitos. :)

also .......Jason is the pricing the same for new orders now.

Very end of October for the Dragonfly. No sooner.

in french we call this "l'arlesienne" :something you allways heard about but you never see !!!!!

i'am very disapointed :mad:

bob

does anybody know what is the cause for such a delay with dragonfly ,

grega

Help for a NEO needed here ...... I have a really good scaler within my qualia 006 ( I'm told) but at the same time I want the best PQ possible. I have almost completely stopped watching SD. There are great and not so great HD channels (Dish) no OA where I live and no cable. Do I need the Dragonfly or just the Mosquito?

And no buy.

Because they are French (just kidding) ;) . I hope the cause of the delay is to complete the product which it most certainly isn't. The fact that it wasn't going to have user definable resolution control is bad enough. But then there was the stories about processing bugs. yikes!

I received a mass e-mail from Algolith today. It basically said those who ordered from the first batch of 100 would receive them in November and December. Programming a deinterlacer/scaler is not easy. I would rather have a ompany take the time to at least get a majority of it right. You are outraged? No sale! No offense :) but who gives 2 ____? The VP30 is not cutting edge, buy it as many have done here. Not me, it uses ancient video deinterlcing (Sil 504). You want cutting edge? You wait. Very could things happen to people who wait. Seriously, I am dissapointed it is taking them so long, but so what? I can wait.

Is that cutting edge or bleeding edge? :-)

i'am sory it's not just a matter of waiting !!!!
i'am waiting too :( but algolith said in ces 2005 they will have the killer scaler :OK let's go ....and after they will begin the delivery in end of june .....
now they said september and after november and december :mad:
do you find this is serious :that's seem to you to be proffessional ,for me it doesn't (and i'am french :D )
so if at the end you see the color of the dragonfly OK but if there is bug and algolith make the same time to correct them ...ouh la la ....

i will problably get the crystalio II who have a very good chip too for 1080i

It's not like Algolith is the only company making a scaler from next-gen chips, and other companies are offering more HT friendly connection options (SDI) and features (variable rate scaling). If they keep delaying the product they're going to end up with no sales.

wowy......you said SDI, maybe the extra time is being spent including the sorely lacking input. :rolleyes:

Mark,

I have already asked you this but just make sure when you are at their booth this week to bring up what the delay is really for, i.e. custom resolution support, etc.

thanks

Actually I consider what Algolith is doing almost as innovative as “bloodless surgical field technology†(you know, using Argon and YAG lasers and such)………..

So patience is indeed a virtue.

And Morg111, thank goodness all French-speaking people don’t think the same or exhibit the same degree of professionalism…….this from Algolith’s hometown of Montréal……………….

http://www.velonews.com/news/fea/8746.0.html

Man, you just never let up on this!

Did the SIL-504 manufacterers plot to kill someone in your family or what? ;)

So the Canadian testers have a real issue with the French testers. I found it interesting that the names were released with the ID codes in Paris. Very interesting indeed.

Delivery in Nov or Dec is really a long time to develop a product announced and showed at CES 2005 in Jan. It appears the task is more difficult then launching the space shuttle. I can't see why it takes so long unless:

1- They don't have someone working full time on the scaler (which is a bad sign for the future) or
2-They are introducing big design changes to the original project (like SDI) which could be a very good thing well worth the wait.

Either way I really hope CEDIA will shed some light to what is really happening since Algolith is not very forthcoming in information.

On another note, I think we should change the thread title from "Algolith Dragonfly Reviews" to "Waiting for Algolith Dragonfly" :)

I thought all that was showed at 2005 CES was a reference design that
wasn't even their own. Perhaps they bit off more then they antipicated
and are working to provide a working system so they don't have to spend
"too" much time via tech support debugging problems.

I also got that email since I have preordered one. I understand delays and wish Algolith all the best, but I will also be keeping my eyes open at CEDIA for alternatives. For instance, by going to the DVDO booth to see what Dale Adams and company are working on beyond the VP30. If DVDO will have a full 1080i deinterlacing solution close to the time that the Dragonfly preorders will actually ship, then I may switch and buy one of those instead. And I want to see what Optoma has coming and whether NEC will have a good scaler. Basically, I'm keeping my options open.

--Darin

Well, the VP30 was just announced. I doubt the VP40 (or whatever the name will be) will come anytime soon. It might become a great unit, though, once it will finally see the light of day.

You might want to check out the Crystalio II. To me it looks like the most promising VP right now. However, the jury is still out about whether the Gennum or the Realta is better PQ wise...

I'm on the AVS pre order for the Dragon but didn't get any mail from Algolith.

Did you ordered directly from Algolith?

Slightly OT:

Don't forget the other HQV equipped scaler called Vantage-HD with a MSRP of $2,899. They will be at CEDIA (Booth 1734).
If someone could check them and post here it would be great.

Link: http://www.calibreuk.com/home_theater.php

Well, rhetoric aside, I agree with Mark.

The 504 has had its day, but now it's time to put it out to pasture.

Hey. I own three processors which use that video deinterlacing piece o s___! I want something better now. I supported that chip and now I am leaving her. I am not buying or selling anything again which uses that chip.

I also agree that the Sil504 has terrible video deinterlacing.

--Andre

The Dragonfly product page has been updated. External SDI box is official now.

http://www.algolith.com/index.php?id=dragonfly&L=0

Based on the updated spec sheet, there no longer is a 1080p output, either digital or analog, as well as no customizable output resolution.

On the web page itself:

Video Outputs:
1 HDMI interlaced/progressive SD/HD

* 480i/p, 576i/p, 720p60, 1080i/p60

* User definable outputs will be available in a future software upgrade via USB port.

The PDF says the same.