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post #91 of 195
12/7/05 at 3:04am
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Was the game you tried running in progressive scan? I think a lot of the Gamecube games, at the popular ones, can run in progressive scan at 480p. My main worry is games on gamecube, ps2, and xbox that run in 480i. Supposedly the xx6x models had really slow upscaling from 480i to the native 720p, thus the lag. I think I read somewhere that the xx87w has a faster processor for that, along with HD2+ and faster color wheel or something? Hopefully, the upscaling is fast enough to not notice any lag or maybe there wont be any at all. I HOPE! If you have a PS2, do you mind doing a test on your 5087w with a game with a jump button or something. Just hit the jump button and see if you notice a delay of your character starting its jump after hitting the button.

THANKS!

I don't have the progressive scan cable for the gamecube. I noticed 0 lag on the standard default settings.
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post #92 of 195
12/7/05 at 6:18am
Wow, thats really good news. Especially after my testing last night at my local Best Buy.

I went in with a PS2 and a golf and football game. They didn't have the HL-R5087w that I had purchased from them anymore, so the only Samsung DLP that I could test was a 5066w I THINK, might have been 5067 or even 5065 not sure! The price was 1999.97 though. I'll check to see if I can get the exact model number. ANYHOW -

The Samsung DLP I tested Hot Shots Golf on had really really bad lag - I hadn't tested any other TVs yet, but right away I knew that the game was unplayable. Oh, I'll point out that I didn't have component cables, just composite.

I then tried a Toshiba 46hm95 with the same set up and experience very close to ZERO lag.

Hopefully the pedestal versions have a different way of processing 480i input - because from what I've heard here, I should expect no lag at all. Guess I'll just have to wait and see.
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post #93 of 195
12/7/05 at 9:52am
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Originally Posted by rorktor1 View Post

Wow, thats really good news. Especially after my testing last night at my local Best Buy.

I went in with a PS2 and a golf and football game. They didn't have the HL-R5087w that I had purchased from them anymore, so the only Samsung DLP that I could test was a 5066w I THINK, might have been 5067 or even 5065 not sure! The price was 1999.97 though. I'll check to see if I can get the exact model number. ANYHOW -

The Samsung DLP I tested Hot Shots Golf on had really really bad lag - I hadn't tested any other TVs yet, but right away I knew that the game was unplayable. Oh, I'll point out that I didn't have component cables, just composite.

I then tried a Toshiba 46hm95 with the same set up and experience very close to ZERO lag.

Hopefully the pedestal versions have a different way of processing 480i input - because from what I've heard here, I should expect no lag at all. Guess I'll just have to wait and see.

Even with Dnie and DNR turned on, I didn't notice any lag playing all the fast paced games I have like F-Zero and Burnout 2. This was in 480i, not 480p.

I did notice that the Sound settings out of the box are not set correctly for sounding good with DVD's. You have to go in and change the settings to movie mode and turn SRSXT on.

The TV works great, I'm having a blast using it. I have to tell you, the lamp runs at standard picture settings at 100W. Turning the video picture mode to Dynamic uses 120W of the bulb shortening its life by a couple years if used frequently. I always keep the mode on standard and use cinema mode when it is much darker in the room. I did not notice any rainbow during white scenes at all when looking real fast from one side of the screen to the other.

Connecting the computer also works great. I didn't notice any sound lag either coming from the PC's speakers and the video being sent DVI-HDMI.

Overall, I'm very happy with this TV.
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post #94 of 195
12/8/05 at 9:06am
I just acquired my 5087w and I haven't noticed any lag either. I'm a game developer so it's safe to say I'm an obsessive gamer as well. Now, one cavet here is that I'm only using progressive output and I've been mostly playing 360 games the last few weeks. I need to finish Shadow of the Colussus so I'll check that out (and other PS2 and Cube games) and see what I find. I would have *definitely* noticed lag on Halo 2 multiplayer games (it looks great with the 360 software emulation bumping the game up to 720p, btw) and I'm not seeing it.

This set is awesome! I just bought the new Criterion transfer of 'Ran' and watching that last night was amazing.
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post #95 of 195
12/14/05 at 11:19am
I've had the TV for a little under 2 weeks and a recent DVR recording has led me to think about either exchanging this for another 87W or getting another TV entirely.

As has been mentioned, the pincushioning effect is either: Unnoticeable by folks, slightly there or REALLY there. Well, I thought I could live with the pincushioning/bowing/geometry issues that I notice on 4:3 material....but figured just "weren't noticeable" on HD/16:9 material....until I watched a DVR'd recording of an HDNet Test Pattern from Tuesday AM.

I have my RCA DVR connected to Component 1 and upon replaying it last night, I noticed how truly sad the geometry on this particular set is. The vertical lines in the test pattern flair out dramatically on both sides of center...and the image is also tilted slightly. I tried this on Component 1 and 2 and both inputs have the same exact tilt/bowing (which isn't surprising). When I watch the local NBC Digital OTA Weather channel (16:9 picture) the weather info/grids/boxes are VERY noticeable with the bowing/bending. And, now that I think about it, when I was watching some football on Sunday via D* Sunday Ticket on a FG kick, the uprights literally looked flaired/bowed.

Also, I noticed when I stand to the left/right of the screen and look *at the image on the screen it almost looks like it's bowed INWARD (if that makes sense). I noticed this on the HDNet Test Pattern as well as on a few different HD programs on Discovery HD. Weird....

So, I called CC and they said I can do a straight exchange for another 87W....or exchange it for a different TV. So my big question: Has anyone noticed the level of bowing that I'm seeing....because now that I've *seen* it....I'm festering about it!
Even putting in a DVE disc last night produced the same results on the geometric tests. I'm sure I can tinker in the Service Menu (as I've done on my Philips HD CRT that had geometric issues that were correctable in the SM) but I don't want to futz around with the set for the price I paid for it.

I'm going to stop at BB/CC tonight and specifically try and get the remote and put on a 4:3 image to see if the store models are as bad as mine. Because that's my fear---the pincushioning is obviously there on most/all models....it's just a matter of the level of degree on the set you get.

I knew about the DLP pincushioning effect before I jumped in....just didn't think I'd see it THIS noticeably.

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post #96 of 195
12/16/05 at 10:05am
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Originally Posted by jaypb View Post

I've had the TV for a little under 2 weeks and a recent DVR recording has led me to think about either exchanging this for another 87W or getting another TV entirely.

As has been mentioned, the pincushioning effect is either: Unnoticeable by folks, slightly there or REALLY there. Well, I thought I could live with the pincushioning/bowing/geometry issues that I notice on 4:3 material....but figured just "weren't noticeable" on HD/16:9 material....until I watched a DVR'd recording of an HDNet Test Pattern from Tuesday AM.

I have my RCA DVR connected to Component 1 and upon replaying it last night, I noticed how truly sad the geometry on this particular set is. The vertical lines in the test pattern flair out dramatically on both sides of center...and the image is also tilted slightly. I tried this on Component 1 and 2 and both inputs have the same exact tilt/bowing (which isn't surprising). When I watch the local NBC Digital OTA Weather channel (16:9 picture) the weather info/grids/boxes are VERY noticeable with the bowing/bending. And, now that I think about it, when I was watching some football on Sunday via D* Sunday Ticket on a FG kick, the uprights literally looked flaired/bowed.

Also, I noticed when I stand to the left/right of the screen and look *at the image on the screen it almost looks like it's bowed INWARD (if that makes sense). I noticed this on the HDNet Test Pattern as well as on a few different HD programs on Discovery HD. Weird....

So, I called CC and they said I can do a straight exchange for another 87W....or exchange it for a different TV. So my big question: Has anyone noticed the level of bowing that I'm seeing....because now that I've *seen* it....I'm festering about it!
Even putting in a DVE disc last night produced the same results on the geometric tests. I'm sure I can tinker in the Service Menu (as I've done on my Philips HD CRT that had geometric issues that were correctable in the SM) but I don't want to futz around with the set for the price I paid for it.

I'm going to stop at BB/CC tonight and specifically try and get the remote and put on a 4:3 image to see if the store models are as bad as mine. Because that's my fear---the pincushioning is obviously there on most/all models....it's just a matter of the level of degree on the set you get.

I knew about the DLP pincushioning effect before I jumped in....just didn't think I'd see it THIS noticeably.

Thanks

I don't notice any of the bowing you mention. What I would do is go to the store and take the DVD with the test pattern and check it out on the floor model. (Go to a Best Buy and or Circuit City) If you notice the same thing, it is probably universal with all of them and some people like me don't notice a problem. If that is the case, you should order a different model.
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post #97 of 195
12/16/05 at 10:47am
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I don't notice any of the bowing you mention. What I would do is go to the store and take the DVD with the test pattern and check it out on the floor model. (Go to a Best Buy and or Circuit City) If you notice the same thing, it is probably universal with all of them and some people like me don't notice a problem. If that is the case, you should order a different model.

Sadly, I went back to CC (where I purchased the TV) and eventually decided to set up a "Fetch" in exchange for a Zenith plasma. I knew about the Samsung DLP's tendency to exhibit "some" bowing....but the particular unit I have is WAY beyond that. And, in addition I went to a total of 2 other Best Buy's and one additional CC to look at their floor model of the 5087w. The first CC I went to exhibited the pincushioning/bowing on 4:3 material though not as severely as mine. The 1st BB didn't have the unit on the floor...and the 2nd BB's unit had a "loop" running...and the kid said he couldn't change any source material for me....and couldn't find the remote. But, when viewing the loop I was still able to perceive the bending of the picture that was already engrained in my minds eye.

I don't want to ruin anyone else's perception of this TV, as I am QUITE happy with the way I tweaked the picture for the HD material. Even my wife (who doesn't take things to the extreme I do with HD material) said she was sad to see this TV go....but she too could *see* what I was seeing.

Clarity and resolution wise I thought it looked AWESOME. But, my perception was ruined by the geometry issues. I will try and post some pics if I can this weekend.

Suffice to say the salesman at CC basically told me that I was crazy for even worrying about something along these lines, as "most people wouldn't even notice that". That comment really ticked me off, as for the $ X,XXX.XX I spent I think it's within reason to expect to be satisfied with a product.
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post #98 of 195
12/16/05 at 12:18pm
Plasma's have their advantages and disadvantages. You just have to decide which looks best to you. I would never buy a Plasma just for the fact that it will eventually need to be thrown away without possibility of fixing and they are more expensive to begin with. One could argue that buying lamps for DLP's over a period of time makes up the difference. However if after ten years you have to buy a new TV instead of replacing a lamp, you still end up spending more. Most people would say that they would probably buy a new TV any ways in ten years just to keep up with the technology. We still have a Sony CRT that is 15 years old and it still looks great watching current DVD's. I just recently upgraded to 720p HDTV and I hope my HLR5087W lasts 10 years or so without any major problems. There is a huge difference watching TV in HDTV than what we've always been used to before. It will probably be another ten years or so until I would want to upgrade regardless of new technology. At least by that time, my family would still have the pedestal model which I could place in my kids room while I upgrade to a new type of TV standard.

Jay, I hope you get the TV you deserve and get many years of enjoyment out of it. This thread doesn't seem to have much action and I will miss talking to you. Take care and have a Merry Christmas.
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post #99 of 195
12/16/05 at 12:43pm
I have noticed that bowing effect occasionaly when watching hdtv (hdmi input) but havent seen it when watching DVDs (component input). I wasnt sure if it was my source (SA8300hd) or the TV itself but its very subtle. I notice it on background images mostly.
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post #100 of 195
12/16/05 at 2:07pm
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Originally Posted by Scott-Jersey View Post

I have noticed that bowing effect occasionaly when watching hdtv (hdmi input) but havent seen it when watching DVDs (component input). I wasnt sure if it was my source (SA8300hd) or the TV itself but its very subtle. I notice it on background images mostly.

Scott--are you in "Jersey"....as I am?

If so, for me, the kicker was when I put on 4-2 (OTA NBC Digital Weather) either via the internal tuner or my Samsung D* receiver and I saw the bowing effect. That's a 16:9 picture. I'll try and post some screen caps when I get a chance (of 4-2) as well as the HDNet Test Pattern screen (which comes off of my DVR on Component 2).

I have a Philips 30" CRT HDTV that had/has a SERIOUS bowing issue (IIRC the thread I participated in same a Philips tech memo/document attributed it to a weak power supply) that I labored with immensely in the service menu to minimize (but it's still there) but that's on my bedroom TV (which I only watch as I'm falling asleep). I knew about the DLP (Samsung in particular) issue WRT pincushioning, but.....I just couldn't get past it when it hit me.
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post #101 of 195
12/19/05 at 2:00pm
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Scott--are you in "Jersey"....as I am?

Yes I am! What exit? Im in monmouth county btw.


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Originally Posted by jaypb View Post

If so, for me, the kicker was when I put on 4-2 (OTA NBC Digital Weather) either via the internal tuner or my Samsung D* receiver and I saw the bowing effect. That's a 16:9 picture. I'll try and post some screen caps when I get a chance (of 4-2) as well as the HDNet Test Pattern screen (which comes off of my DVR on Component 2).

Honestly i havent even tried the internal tuner as i get all my hdtv from comcast.
I'd be curious to see the pictures to see if its much more noticable on your tv. The football games this weekend looked absolutely amazing on this TV!
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post #102 of 195
1/14/06 at 1:07pm
I'm hooking my mythtv box up to my HLR5087w tv, and i notice that the top bottom, left, and right 16 pixels or so get cropped. Anyone else notice this? (its not the computer, because it happens with my powerbook too.)
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post #103 of 195
1/16/06 at 11:49pm
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Originally Posted by nickdanger View Post

I'm hooking my mythtv box up to my HLR5087w tv, and i notice that the top bottom, left, and right 16 pixels or so get cropped. Anyone else notice this? (its not the computer, because it happens with my powerbook too.)

Quoted from "nitrogen" in another thread.....
You are not the first person to have this problem. It seems that HDTV's like to act like normal TV's and overscan like mad. The global consensus seems to be that you have to either crop your resolution (i.e. something like 1880x1020) or use an analog input, as digital connections seem to just grab the pixels and do what they want with them, ignoring the timing information.

It is an overscan problem and can easily be fixed within your Nvidia cards settings.

I've been using my new HLR5087W for over a month now and have to say I've watched more TV than ever before. All my DVD's and over the air broadcasts look amazing. 720p looks just as good as my friends 1080i, and even better when the signal coming in is a sporting event from Fox which is in 720p. With Dnie on, my TV looks so much better than his Toshiba 56MX195 which is a 1080p model. He notices the difference and sharper images every time and wishes he had gotten a Samsung.
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post #104 of 195
1/19/06 at 11:31am
Does this have IEEE 1394 firewire support? The mfg specs say it does however I cannot find a picture depicting the port and the HLRxxxxW thread says it does not have it.

One other thing I am adding.

I am confilcted with the option of (purchasing this set with the current pedestal AND purchasing a standalone AV rack to place next to my mains) OR (get the hlr5067w model and a TV stand) for all my AV components.

Purchasing the optional stand for the 5087W is an option but looks to me to ONLY work with that TV and would be tossed out with the TV when upgraded down the line.

Am I wrong in thinking that? I think the picture quality of the 87W is better than the 67W but that is only from seeing them at BB and who knows if they have calibrated their sets properly.


What are your guy's thoughts on PQ of the 67W vs 87W?
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post #105 of 195
1/21/06 at 10:34am
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Does this have IEEE 1394 firewire support? The mfg specs say it does however I cannot find a picture depicting the port and the HLRxxxxW thread says it does not have it.

One other thing I am adding.

I am confilcted with the option of (purchasing this set with the current pedestal AND purchasing a standalone AV rack to place next to my mains) OR (get the hlr5067w model and a TV stand) for all my AV components.

Purchasing the optional stand for the 5087W is an option but looks to me to ONLY work with that TV and would be tossed out with the TV when upgraded down the line.

Am I wrong in thinking that? I think the picture quality of the 87W is better than the 67W but that is only from seeing them at BB and who knows if they have calibrated their sets properly.


What are your guy's thoughts on PQ of the 67W vs 87W?


Picture quality is better in the 87W for some reason. I believe it is due to the lamp location in the pedestal, and slightly brighter contrast ratio. 2500 compared to 2000. All pedestal models are sharper than their counterparts and more expensive when they were brand new. As for inputs, you have to determine for yourself using the Samsung website since they list all of them on each model.
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post #106 of 195
1/24/06 at 1:59pm
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Purchasing the optional stand for the 5087W is an option but looks to me to ONLY work with that TV and would be tossed out with the TV when upgraded down the line.

No you're not wrong, Its a good looking rack but its made to fit around the pedastal. I guess you could use it with another TV but i wouldnt buy it without having the 5087.

But if you're upgrading to a new TV just sell the rack with the old one.
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post #107 of 195
1/24/06 at 2:09pm
I think I will build a rack from oak and glass instead. This way it will match the railing it will be sitting up against.
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post #108 of 195
1/29/06 at 10:35pm
How is everyone doing?? Just wanted to keep this thread alive. My TV works perfect, no issues with it yet.


Just wondering, post your brightness settings on standard and cinema that you all are using. Or just the settings you have changed to adjust the screens. I've changed mine to 54 on standard using the THX optimizer.
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post #109 of 195
1/30/06 at 6:08am
I watch TV in standard w/o changes and DVD's in cinema mode. I have changed the gama settings to 5 in the service menu however for my component inputs. I will need to check out the hdmi interface when my cable gets in Tuesday.

The TV shows the most beautiful picture I have ever seen. I am so glad I bought this set.
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post #110 of 195
1/30/06 at 9:50am
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I watch TV in standard w/o changes and DVD's in cinema mode. I have changed the gama settings to 5 in the service menu however for my component inputs. I will need to check out the hdmi interface when my cable gets in Tuesday.

The TV shows the most beautiful picture I have ever seen. I am so glad I bought this set.


I kept everything on standard without changes for the longest time. However after the bulb runs for about 100 hours, it seems to settle and dim slightly. This is normal for all Bulbs and it requires you to adjust the brightness a little bit to compensate. And don't ever use Dynamic because it cuts the life of the lamp in half.

I agree with you that this is the best picture I've ever seen. Even sitting next to the 50 inch Sony SXRD, this one still looked sharper and more natural. I did purchase the Sony upconverter DVD player and it works great. Using HDMI makes a big difference when watching DVD's.

Have you watched High Definition Broadcasts yet??
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post #111 of 195
1/30/06 at 10:00am
I am waiting on my cablecard from mediacom. However I did find some hbo channels in the upper 103.30 regions that are not listed on titantv or other hd tv guide sites. Funny thing is I do nto subscribe to HBO and I can get some of their channels.

I found some local tv on there as well.


Here is another thing I noticed. When watchign some of those digital channels I find the movies rewinding and fast forwarding all by itself. Is this some fluke with the provider or am I seeing someone elses video on demand subscription? I really would like to know what's happenign there as I do not want to call my provider and have them "fix" the free pay channels I am getting.

I found the answer in this post:


To be clear, the digital cable channels (HD or SD) you are getting fall into two catagories, PPV or VOD, and all other channels.

The PPV or VOD you see is from other subscribers.

All other channels, like HBO, are the mistake, and it could well be no one in your area subscribes to them either. They are either in the clear or encrypted at the head end, so everyone in the area could also receive them like you do, with a QAM tuner.

The reason the cableco's aren't too concerned with this as yet, is because not that many HDTV's have QAM tuners, and of those, few people understand that just connecting the cable and doing a signal scan could give them HDTV.

What you are experiencing is not unheard of, which is why I can explain it in detail. In most cases it comes to an end at some point in the not too distant future.
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post #112 of 195
1/31/06 at 7:50pm
Hi everyone, I've been looking at this TV for almost a year now and I think I'm finally gonna buy it (well, pretty soon) but I have a few concerns.

1. How is the picture quality on a non-HD signal? About half a year ago, I was at a store and asked the sales person to put it on standard signal (they were using Direct TV if that matters, I'm on digital cable). The picture looked really pixelated and put me off on buying a HD TV. Time passed and the urge came back; I headed over to a different store and wanted to get another view. They only had the 56", the 1080p, so I suspected if anything, since it's a higher resolution, the picture would be magnified more and be even blurrier. To my surprise, it wasn't too bad. Is this supposed to be the case? A 1080p TV's picture will look better than a 720p on non-HD signals? Or, it's just the stores and how the lines were being fed?

I figured since I'll be sitting about 10 or less feet from the TV, and my eyes aren't the greatest, that I'd probably wouldn't even notice the difference between 720 and 1080p.

2. I haven't been keeping up with the forum, but some say they experience lag with Samsung DLPs, but I don't think with this specific model. Whether with DVD's, video games, whatever, I don't think I've read anything for the 5087.

The price of these units are dropping since the new models are coming out. Anyone know if they're still doing the pedestals? I was told this model has been discontinued (so the price hopefully will continue to drop).

Well, I'd like to hear what you guys have to say...thanks.
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post #113 of 195
2/1/06 at 6:16am
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Originally Posted by funkmonky View Post

Hi everyone, I've been looking at this TV for almost a year now and I think I'm finally gonna buy it (well, pretty soon) but I have a few concerns.

1. How is the picture quality on a non-HD signal?
I figured since I'll be sitting about 10 or less feet from the TV, and my eyes aren't the greatest, that I'd probably wouldn't even notice the difference between 720 and 1080p.

2. I haven't been keeping up with the forum, but some say they experience lag with Samsung DLPs, but I don't think with this specific model. Whether with DVD's, video games, whatever, I don't think I've read anything for the 5087.

Well, I'd like to hear what you guys have to say...thanks.


1) The pq of standard cable/OTA signals leaves a bit to be desired. However I personally would not stop that from letting me purchase this set again. Since pretty much all stations are merging to HD soon you will be seeing everything in HD and nothing in SD. The image isn't really that bad and is still enjoyable to watch. I sit ~6-7' away from my set. I would prefer to be further back yet but that is not possible in my room arrangement now.

2) There is a minute bit of lag when playing video games or anything for that matter. You can tell when you hook up the dvd player to the TV and also audio out to your receiver. When using the tv speakers and the receiver you can hear an echo created by the delay of the TV processing the input from analog to digital.

This lag does not affect MY or my friends gameplay in the least with my xbox.

There are 2 ways to get around the sound delay.
1) Use the HDMI connector for your STB or DVD player.
2) Use the audio output from TV (RCA or Optical) to keep audio in synch with the video.
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post #114 of 195
2/1/06 at 12:28pm
got hl-r 5087 yesterday, how to configure abc and other hi-def channels that are locally available for hdtv (will be getting digital tv next week)

pardon my ignorance, i have tried my best so would appreciate any help
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post #115 of 195
2/1/06 at 3:48pm
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Originally Posted by shined View Post

got hl-r 5087 yesterday, how to configure abc and other hi-def channels that are locally available for hdtv (will be getting digital tv next week)

pardon my ignorance, i have tried my best so would appreciate any help

Congrats on your purchase and welcome to the forum. I just turned on the Low Noise Signal Amplifier and connected my old Antenna. I get all the local channels, and this depends on how close you are to the stations. It is unreal to watch a Football game, especially sports on Fox. It's good that you'll be able to watch the Super Bowl. Let us know how it looks .
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post #116 of 195
2/5/06 at 10:33am
Well, I was about to buy the 5667W model online when I went to to CC to confirm it was a go...then they had the 5087W right by it and the difference was significant imo. Enough that I'm now going to order the 5087W instead most likely.

I'm guessing since there's been no posts to the contrary, that the pedestal height is ideal for watching? Also--while I might be moving it to a larger room eventually, the TV will be going into a room where I'll only be about 6 feet from it when viewing. Any problems that might occur from this---thanks! Looking forward to joining the team.
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post #117 of 195
2/5/06 at 3:20pm
per the link on samsung site in spec sheet(i cannot post link) on the last page hl-r 5087w has built in high definition tuner/decoder, i got a regular digital cable box from comcast and only audio was available, the tech who came in advised that i need to get hd box, which i did and now i am able to get both video as well as audio hd channels,

so is the info on the spec sheet on samsung site wrong or did i not configure it right
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post #118 of 195
2/6/06 at 6:10am
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Originally Posted by shined View Post

per the link on samsung site in spec sheet(i cannot post link) on the last page hl-r 5087w has built in high definition tuner/decoder, i got a regular digital cable box from comcast and only audio was available, the tech who came in advised that i need to get hd box, which i did and now i am able to get both video as well as audio hd channels,

so is the info on the spec sheet on samsung site wrong or did i not configure it right

It does decode HD as long as they are unencrypted signals. That is why you would benefit from a CableCard in your tv instead of the set top box.
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post #119 of 195
2/6/06 at 7:51am
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Originally Posted by Dan E Laruso View Post

Well, I was about to buy the 5667W model online when I went to to CC to confirm it was a go...then they had the 5087W right by it and the difference was significant imo. Enough that I'm now going to order the 5087W instead most likely.

I'm guessing since there's been no posts to the contrary, that the pedestal height is ideal for watching? Also--while I might be moving it to a larger room eventually, the TV will be going into a room where I'll only be about 6 feet from it when viewing. Any problems that might occur from this---thanks! Looking forward to joining the team.


If you notice the HLR5087W has a clearer or sharper image than the 5667W, it is because the 5087W has the HD2++ Mustang chip that is non-wobulated. The 5667W has a wobulated HD3 chip with half the mirrors in the the DLP chip displaying the upper half and then the lower half of one pixel fooling your eye into thinking it is complete. The HLR5087W's HD2++ chip has 1:1 pixel mapping where one mirror equals one pixel. You should not be able to see any distinctive pixels at 8-10 feet range when watching the TV. I tested 6 feet and it still looks very good even though I prefer 8 to 10 feet.
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2/6/06 at 7:59am
I watch this set from about 6-9ft depending on where I sit in the room. It is very watchable from either distance. I recommend watching in dim light setting the picture to cinema mode easing stress on the eyes.

Definately the 5087w is the way to go if you choose samsung.
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