Originally Posted by Kapolei01
I find your comments on PLIIx interesting. This is my first experience with PLIIx and I've been impressed with it's performance layered over DD so far. So you think it sounds very good compared to DTS-ES huh? I'll have to check that out; I think DTS-ES discrete is awesome. Funny thing is, I think that Logic 7 sounds better than PLIIx, so far when listening to analog channels. But then again, I haven't done extensive listening tests yet.
Let's keep each posted on our opinions and hope others chime in soon.
dts-ES discrete is one of the reasons I like LOTR
so much. When I got my 7400, I was disappointed at losing it for 7-channel, but the tests I did settled my concerns quite a bit. With my Denon units, I could probably have picked DD and dts apart in a blind A-B test. But with this one, it would be very hard. And I might end up picking DD+PLIIx over dts-ES discrete!
I didn't hear any concrete examples of steering effects through the 2 rear channels with these movies, but it sounded at least as good as dts-ES discrete to me, if not better in many cases. Interestingly, I was watching 28 Days Later
two weekends ago and there was a clear case of rear channel steering near the end where a jet fighter overflies the two starving zombies (poor guys). The sound clearly pans around you in a circle, panning its way through the 2 rear speakers in the process.
is quite subtle. It really doesn't draw attention to itself most of the time, i.e. "Look at me! I'm in the rear channels!" I find CSII is mixed very hot in the surrounds and rears. PLIIx
is very subtle by comparison. Now in order to get the same sound as Logic7 perhaps you can raise the surrounds and rears by 2-3 dB?
Regarding volume, I'm using 89-90 dB 8-ohm speakers, so it's hard to make comparisons. I have it calibrated to reference, 85 dB at 0, so I usually listen to DVDs at -25 (gives 65-75 dB nominal, with peaks over 90 dB), TV at -20 (around 65 dB) and music at -15 or -10. I don't listen extraordinarily loud, -10 dB sounds very loud to me even though it's only 75 dB.