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post #1 of 50
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I am looking at the DMR-E500HS.

I can read the spec's, but I cannot get a "feel" for it as no store carries it locally..

So if I could get a few questions anwered from people that have one or have used one I would appreciate it!

-Rumor has it you can edit the titles of the recorded shows from your PC with the network function. Is this true???

-What can a person do with the network function? Can they copy the files to PC and burn them? Or is it a huge hassle to do? I imagine that you cannot edit on the PC unless you copy the files there of course...

-What is the timer function like? Is it setup 100% TV Guide like the E95 is where you cannot put names into the manual timer? And does it have a dumbed-down timer like the E95 where the E80 was better as you could record "M-F" while the E95 only has daily, weekly or one time..???

-Any other issues with it say compared to an E95???

I am stuck on DVD-RAM and DVD-R so the new unit with the PUNY HD is not an issue, the HD size and networking is what I am hoping to gain.

Can anyone help me out with these issues? Also where the cheapest E500's could be found? I think buy.com has the best price now at $549, but I am not 100% sure...
post #2 of 50
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Anyone?
post #3 of 50
Buy.com is the lowest price I've seen. I would go to www.panasonic.com and see if the have the manual to read.
post #4 of 50
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Originally Posted by Divilish
I am looking at the DMR-E500HS.

I can read the spec's, but I cannot get a "feel" for it as no store carries it locally..

So if I could get a few questions anwered from people that have one or have used one I would appreciate it!
The E500 is rather expensive, so you might have trouble finding an owner to answer your questions.

The owner's manual WAS posted on the US Panasonic site, but for some reason they have removed it (and many other manuals). Same for the Canadian and UK sites. I managed to locate it on the Australian Panasonic site. Maybe it will answer your questions. Here's the link:

Owner's manual for DMR-E500HS

I hope this helps.

Cheers,

rag
post #5 of 50
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Originally Posted by rgazzara
The E500 is rather expensive, so you might have trouble finding an owner to answer your questions.

The owner's manual WAS posted on the US Panasonic site, but for some reason they have removed it (and many other manuals). Same for the Canadian and UK sites. I managed to locate it on the Australian Panasonic site. Maybe it will answer your questions. Here's the link:

Owner's manual for DMR-E500HS

I hope this helps.

Cheers,

rag
Thanks for the help, this might answer a few questions...

The manual is usually pretty bad, but it should at least touch on the scenario's I am looking at.

But I have seen owners post here before, guess they are all out watching SW3 or something.....might just have to jump to see how it is, buy.com does have a decent return policy....
post #6 of 50
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Originally Posted by Divilish
But I have seen owners post here before, guess they are all out watching SW3 or something.....might just have to jump to see how it is, buy.com does have a decent return policy....
A suggestion:

Do a search in this forum on the DMR-E500HS and send a private message to anyone who claims to own one.

rag
post #7 of 50
I can't answer the networking or PC questions you have, but I can answer the timer question. Yes, it the TV GUIDE dumbed down version and you cannot put names into the manul timer. This is a huge drawback. You could manually record a couple hundred different programs on the huge hard drive but you won't know later which ones are which because none have titles. You'll have to start watching each one to find the one you're looking for. If you have recorded very many programs on the HD it's a real headache. I try not to leave more than ten recorded programs (maybe 1% of the hard drive space) because otherwise finding the one I want to watch is a hassle. You can title an individual program AFTER it's been recorded, but that isn't nearly as handy as being able to input a title when you set the timer. And the limited functionality of the timer also stinks. I suppose it works like a dream if you can use the TV GUIDE feature, but since it doesn't work with satellite it's worse than useless to me. It's a pain in the ***. More on the E500HS:

http://www.avsforum.com/avs-vb/showthread.php?t=534787
post #8 of 50
I am looking at the DMR-E500HS.

I can read the spec's, but I cannot get a "feel" for it as no store carries it locally..

So if I could get a few questions anwered from people that have one or have used one I would appreciate it!

-Rumor has it you can edit the titles of the recorded shows from your PC with the network function. Is this true???

No you can't edit.

-What can a person do with the network function? Can they copy the files to PC and burn them? Or is it a huge hassle to do? I imagine that you cannot edit on the PC unless you copy the files there of course...

The only thing you can do is title recorded shows, watch still pictures and stream Mpeg4 recordings if enabled. Mpeg 4 is of low quality as it is for portable devices.


-What is the timer function like? Is it setup 100% TV Guide like the E95 is where you cannot put names into the manual timer? And does it have a dumbed-down timer like the E95 where the E80 was better as you could record "M-F" while the E95 only has daily, weekly or one time..???

Timer when using guide is like on E95. If you set up the unit without the TV Guide it should be the same as E80 and E100.

-Any other issues with it say compared to an E95???

No issues. The unit is flawless. E95 rebooted on me few times. E500 never did. It has better bulilt as it is all aluminum. Plays multichannel DVD Audio not just 2 channel and decodes DTS internally. Also when I compared it directly with E95 picture is a little better especially if watching commercial DVD's.

I am stuck on DVD-RAM and DVD-R so the new unit with the PUNY HD is not an issue, the HD size and networking is what I am hoping to gain.

Can anyone help me out with these issues? Also where the cheapest E500's could be found? I think buy.com has the best price now at $549, but I am not 100% sure...

Buy.com price is the lowest and I suggest you get it before they are all gone. While it is still a current model Panasonic stop manufacturing them.
post #9 of 50
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Originally Posted by CKNA
If you set up the unit without the TV Guide it should be the same as E80 and E100.
Really? That's not the case with the E95. If you set up without the TV Guide, it is definitely more cumbersome to set up a timer recording than the E80 or E100. You can't even title the recording in advance like you can with the E80/100. So the E500 is different than the E95 in this regard?
post #10 of 50
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Originally Posted by vferrari
Really? That's not the case with the E95. If you set up without the TV Guide, it is definitely more cumbersome to set up a timer recording than the E80 or E100. You can't even title the recording in advance like you can with the E80/100. So the E500 is different than the E95 in this regard?
To tell you the truth I only looked at it once and then I just set TV Guide. It seemed as easy as E100 but it may be different.
post #11 of 50
Oh, because a lot of us with E85/95/500's/EH50's etc. WISH they had set up manual (non-TV guide) timer recordings like it was with the E80/100. Panny definitely took a step backward in this regard.
post #12 of 50
The manual timer recording situation is definitely inferior to the previous models. It's one big headache.
post #13 of 50
The unit is also more sluggish in many operations than the previous HS2 and E100 models, both of which I own. When you press a button on the remote the unit has to think for a second or two before it reacts, often leading to you pressing the button again thinking it didn't get the message but resulting in screwing up what you are trying to do because it receivers the order twice. I really detest this unit and wish I had never bought it.
post #14 of 50
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Originally Posted by Alan225
The unit is also more sluggish in many operations than the previous HS2 and E100 models, both of which I own. When you press a button on the remote the unit has to think for a second or two before it reacts, often leading to you pressing the button again thinking it didn't get the message but resulting in screwing up what you are trying to do because it receivers the order twice. I really detest this unit and wish I had never bought it.
I do not have this problem. Nothing is sluggish on mine.
post #15 of 50
So given these issues with the current Panasonic DMR models E95, E500, does anyone know or even heard a rumor of when/if Panasonic is going to come out with a new model, hopefully with a better UI (and a web interface to program it would be really cool).

I have a DMR-E80 and really like it, although its interface could also stand some improvement. For example the 1 minute skip button doesn't work on finalized DVDs, and a 15 sec skip back would be really nice.

It would also be nice to be able to save some recording titles to reuse, so you didn't have to re-enter them when you decide to record the show again.

Mike
post #16 of 50
@ Divilish

I own two of the E500s and I'm going through your questions now but I believe that CKNA answered all of them for you.

Do you still have any outstanding questions or concerns about this unit?

Tau
post #17 of 50
Thread Starter 
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Originally Posted by TAU
@ Divilish

I own two of the E500s and I'm going through your questions now but I believe that CKNA answered all of them for you.

Do you still have any outstanding questions or concerns about this unit?

Tau
Well, CKNA states that you cannot edit the titles from your PC, but the manual CLEARLY STATES that you can......

So can you?

Looking at buying one this weekend thanks to the buy.com coupon! Now it is $449 and you get 3% cash-back eventually making it $435.xx eventually.

If it works well I will sell my somewhat-new E95 to make this a cheap upgrade....
post #18 of 50
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Originally Posted by Divilish
Well, CKNA states that you cannot edit the titles from your PC, but the manual CLEARLY STATES that you can......

So can you?

Looking at buying one this weekend thanks to the buy.com coupon! Now it is $449 and you get 3% cash-back eventually making it $435.xx eventually.

If it works well I will sell my somewhat-new E95 to make this a cheap upgrade....
I have the E-500 and I have hooked it up via the ethernet connection to my laptop. I can confirm that you can use the PC to edit the titles.

I love my E-500. The EPG works well with direct cable RF input and I record all my programs (for time shifting) at XP!! With 89 hours to play with you can have a lot on the HDD before having to delete stuff.

I bought mine from buy.com and $435 would be an excellent price. Be forewarned though that buy.com does not double box the recorder. It came in the original shipping carton. However, that said, it arrived in perfect condition and I have been enjoying it ever since.

Enjoy,

RG
post #19 of 50
Thread Starter 
Thanks for the info RG.

Yea, I ordered my E95 I have and one for my office from buy.com, they do not overpack items I can verify that!

Of course I hope I get in quickly enough to get a replacement if this one is DOA, but the original packing is not TOO bad.....

Hard part is getting the stuff off my E95. I really wish these units would network together!
post #20 of 50
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Originally Posted by Divilish
Thanks for the info RG.

Yea, I ordered my E95 I have and one for my office from buy.com, they do not overpack items I can verify that!

Of course I hope I get in quickly enough to get a replacement if this one is DOA, but the original packing is not TOO bad.....

Hard part is getting the stuff off my E95. I really wish these units would network together!
That would be nice wouldn't it...would make replacing recorders a heckuva lot easier...

RG
post #21 of 50
The E500 is [now] showing up as $499 at Buy.com.
post #22 of 50
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Originally Posted by vferrari
Really? That's not the case with the E95. If you set up without the TV Guide, it is definitely more cumbersome to set up a timer recording than the E80 or E100. You can't even title the recording in advance like you can with the E80/100. So the E500 is different than the E95 in this regard?
VF- I bypassed TV Guide on my E500 and manual recording works great . I record Hitchcock Hour every week night automatically. I always title after. Of course I have to make sure my cable box is on that channel. :) I have only had it a month so still checking out other potentials. Paid $560 or so at Crutchfield who btw are great service people. I do think a lot of people have not fully explored this unit. I does have a lot of features that are arcane to most.
post #23 of 50
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Originally Posted by HoustonGuy
VF- I bypassed TV Guide on my E500 and manual recording works great .
HG - Yeah, I'm used to the manual recording mode now on my Panny's that have EPG (E95/EH50) so it isn't that big of a deal. I do miss not being able to enter the title in advance if I use manual timer recording, though. In any event, I DO like the EPG and use it almost exclusively (rarely set up a manual recording now unless I want to have uninterrupted recording of several back-to-back shows, such as during a TV show marathon). I guess the EPG works for me because I use analog cable without a tuner box. I am right at the head end of my neighborhood's cable feed so I get a really good signal, even if it is analog. Take care.
post #24 of 50
Thread Starter 
Quote:
Originally Posted by vferrari
The E500 is [now] showing up as $499 at Buy.com.
And buy.com has a $50 off $500 coupon too. Buy another item, like say a song download for $.79 and you have a viable setup.

Buy.com does now charge for P&H on this unit, I could have SWORN that it was free at the $549.xx level....but on well.
post #25 of 50
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Originally Posted by Divilish
And buy.com has a $50 off $500 coupon too. Buy another item, like say a song download for $.79 and you have a viable setup.

Buy.com does now charge for P&H on this unit, I could have SWORN that it was free at the $549.xx level....but on well.
No P&H wasn't free at the $549 price, because that's the price I paid and I had to pay for P&H when I bought it from Buy.com.

One thing that still bothers me is that they did not double-box the shipment. It was sent in the original shipping container. Panasonic packs their recorders well, but, still, UPS can really bang around shipping cartons. All is well, though, the recorder survived shipping and is now the centerpiece of my video center, and I love it!!!. I couldn't be happier... :D

RG
post #26 of 50
It would be most useful to me on this unit is to add a title BEFORE recording a show, like you could do with previous Panasonic models. But they don't offer it on the E500 on manual recording. (I assume the TV Guide feature will list a title, but the TV Guide feature does not work with satellite recording). So unless I can recognize what a program is by the thumbnail (which is often a random frame from some commercial) I have to start viewing each recording, one by one, in order to find the show I am looking for.
post #27 of 50
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Originally Posted by Alan225
It would be most useful to me on this unit is to add a title BEFORE recording a show, like you could do with previous Panasonic models. But they don't offer it on the E500 on manual recording. (I assume the TV Guide feature will list a title, but the TV Guide feature does not work with satellite recording). So unless I can recognize what a program is by the thumbnail (which is often a random frame from some commercial) I have to start viewing each recording, one by one, in order to find the show I am looking for.
Yes, the Tv Guide EPG does add a title for each show that's recorded, but, so far, satellite users are SOL. :(
post #28 of 50
Doesn't it tell you the date & time the program was recorded? I could probably live with a recorder that didn't let me pre-title, but I would at least want that info.
post #29 of 50
Yes, it does give you the date and time that it was recorded, as well as the number of the recording, the channel, and the day of the week. The only thing missing is the title of the program.

Apparently, if you use the manual timer recording and you have the EPG working, the recorder will go and pull the title from the EPG. But I will have to try this to be absolutely sure. Of course this doesn't help if you are recording from satellite.

RG
post #30 of 50
Thread Starter 
The buy.com deal is dead.....

Glad I jumped on it, was procrastinating for sooooo long.

Delivery on Thursday, I sure hope they don't destroy it in the mail!
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