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post #331 of 2932
Got my Fusion 5 Lite this week and pulled out the AccessDTV and plopped it in. OTA reception is much improved. No breakup on the local signals that were previously giving me fits. Software is a little buggy but not too bad, only had a couple of crashes, mostly due to my own fiddling around. So far its a winner. Will try it with cable, hopefully this weekend to see what it picks up.

dg
post #332 of 2932
I ordered my first PC TV card, the Fusion5 Gold from DC on Tue and got it in the next day. I guess thanks to living the same southern CA. The card comes with CD version 3.0 RC2. At first, I checked Dvico website for latest software, and it showed RC1 so I assumed the CD was newer. Following the manual I installed the software and the card with my old rabit ears antenna. Everything went through smoothly, except it can only detect two very weak signal analog chanels, no OTA digital at all. I also tried scanning cable (Charter, Riverside) and it did not detect anything at all - none. And the scan was terribly slow. I spent the night removed and reinstalled the card/software several times with no luck. I thought either the card was defective because my 10-year old TV set can tune analog chanels just fine with that indoor antenna or cable.
Next day, I came back here and checked this thread to see if anyone's having the same issue, then found that Dvico just released final software 3.0. To my total surprise, the new softwate really did make a difference. Using the same rabit ears antenna, it now can detect a handful of analog and digital chanels and subchanels. The analog pictures are not so impressed as expected, but wow, the OTA HD chanels are amazing clear pictures on the 19" LCD (I have not tried it on my 50"TV). All the digital chanels it detected, the signal strengths are from 62% to 98% - not so bad at all - and I did not know that that VHF/UHF antenna can tune HD contents. I am waiting for the ZHDTV1 antenna to arrive soon and hope to get better signals, since I see a lot of good review about it. Now, I need to play more with cable tuning this weekend.
For your reference, I am converting my old Dell 8200 to HTPC as an experiment for the first time. The system is not so impressive with P4 2.0Ghz 512K cache socket N, 512MB RDRAM, Nvidia FX5200 128MB, WD 80GB 7200RPM IDE HD, and 5.1 SBLive. So far with this inital results I am quite pleased with the Fusion5.
post #333 of 2932
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Originally Posted by revgen View Post

Try using Dscaler. It can interact with the BT8x8 chipset without using DVICO's drivers. The S-Video may be able to work with it.

Make sure to download Dscaler 4 and NOT Dscaler 5.

Come back here if you have any problems.

Sorry, back with this again. Finally got a chance to try out the s-video connection with Dscaler on my Lite version. I don't have a dongle, so I broke off the tiny plastic pin on a s-video cable and plugged it into the back of the Fusion card. I got an image , but it was all distorted and twisted. Colors were way off also. At least a signal was trying to get through, the pins on the Fusion must not be aligned with a s-video connection.

Man, I wish I could get this to work. WinXP won't let me install my PCTV pro b/c I guess it uses the same Conxenant(sp?) chip. Any help?
post #334 of 2932
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Originally Posted by Neuner View Post

Sorry, back with this again. Finally got a chance to try out the s-video connection with Dscaler on my Lite version. I don't have a dongle, so I broke off the tiny plastic pin on a s-video cable and plugged it into the back of the Fusion card. I got an image , but it was all distorted and twisted. Colors were way off also. At least a signal was trying to get through, the pins on the Fusion must not be aligned with a s-video connection.

Man, I wish I could get this to work. WinXP won't let me install my PCTV pro b/c I guess it uses the same Conxenant(sp?) chip. Any help?

You will need the dongle that comes with Fusion 5 Gold cards. I mentioned this earlier, but if you go to www.dvico.com you may want to tell them that you have a Fusion 5 Gold, and that you lost the dongle that came with it. Maybe they'll ship you one, or you can buy a replacement.

Have you tried this yet?
post #335 of 2932
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Originally Posted by revgen View Post

...you may want to tell them that you have a Fusion 5 Gold, and that you lost the dongle that came with it....

Or he may be an honest man and not want to do that. I guess my earlier remark really did go over your head.
post #336 of 2932
So those of you with the Fusion 5 working... Are you using it standalone for ATSC and NTSC in one, or do you have a separate NTSC tuner? Media Center Edition or Regular XP?
post #337 of 2932
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Originally Posted by TPeterson View Post

Or he may be an honest man and not want to do that. I guess my earlier remark really did go over your head.

I would have recommended that he return this card and buy a Fusion 5 Gold. Unfortunately he has already voided his warranty and can't return it. He would have to pay $150 extra for what he is looking for.

I also think that it's rather dubious for DVICO to charge $50 extra for a proprietary dongle.

If he needs to pay $50 to DVICO for the Dongle and the S&H, then so be it. I don't think it's dishonest at all.

But, unfortunately some manufacturers don't charge for replacement parts, and can't, because they are not set up to work that way. If he tells DVICO that he has screwed with his Fusion Lite card, they may not be willing to help him, even if he's willing to pay for the dongle. If he can pay for the dongle, then thats great. He won't have to feel guilty or empty 150 bucks out of his wallet. It may not turn out that way.
post #338 of 2932
Sorry if this has been asked.

I have SAPPHIRE Theatrix Theatre 550Pro TV Tuner Card, with a MCE 2005 compatible remote. Can this remote be used to control Fusion 5?

I am trying not to have multiple remotes. TIA.
post #339 of 2932
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Originally Posted by Neuner View Post

Man, I wish I could get this to work. WinXP won't let me install my PCTV pro b/c I guess it uses the same Conxenant(sp?) chip. Any help?

I could skip all the dongle stuff if I could get my PCTV Pro to work simultaneously, but I'm not that tech savy to figure out why except for someone mentioning that they might use the same chip.
post #340 of 2932
OK,

So I received my DVico FusionHDTV 5 Gold Plus package from DC. I'm using XP Pro on an AthlonXP2400+/Nforce2/512Ram/ATIRadeon9800 with MyHD-120 in there as well.

-Downloaded latest driver app from Dvico, installed.
-Downloaded what I thought was latest remote software, installed
-Put in PCI card
-Hooked up, scanned and found a few of the local QAM channels and analog cable channels as well.
-started tuning them
-got error message
-realized I must have installed old remote SW over new install, thought I would try to correct this
-deleted all installs using add/remove progs as instructed by DVico in manual and on web site
-reinstalled main driver
-got "Access Violation" error after error after error (at one time got over 30 error dialogs during a new channel auto-scan)
-tuner now will not tune in channels despite numerous uninstall/reinstalls of drivers with card inserted and not inserted, and pops up "Access Violation at Adress XXXXXX" all the time

Someone please help or convince me quick or this card is getting boxed up and shipped back to DigitalConnection promptly. Any recommendations?

Thanks,
Adam
post #341 of 2932
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Originally Posted by Ad-Rok View Post

OK,

So I received my DVico FusionHDTV 5 Gold Plus package from DC. I'm using XP Pro on an AthlonXP2400+/Nforce2/512Ram/ATIRadeon9800 with MyHD-120 in there as well.

-Downloaded latest driver app from Dvico, installed.
-Downloaded what I thought was latest remote software, installed
-Put in PCI card
-Hooked up, scanned and found a few of the local QAM channels and analog cable channels as well.
-started tuning them
-got error message
-realized I must have installed old remote SW over new install, thought I would try to correct this
-deleted all installs using add/remove progs as instructed by DVico in manual and on web site
-reinstalled main driver
-got "Access Violation" error after error after error (at one time got over 30 error dialogs during a new channel auto-scan)
-tuner now will not tune in channels despite numerous uninstall/reinstalls of drivers with card inserted and not inserted, and pops up "Access Violation at Adress XXXXXX" all the time

Someone please help or convince me quick or this card is getting boxed up and shipped back to DigitalConnection promptly. Any recommendations?

Thanks,
Adam

That's eerie. I received my Fusion 5 Gold two days ago and am having the exact same "access violation" errors when tuning QAM channels. My set up is like yours as well: AthlonXP 3000+/Nforce2/1.5GB Ram/ATI RADEON 9800. I installed the brand new RC3 software from the DVICO website on a clean system. Since then I have tried all sorts of uninstalling and reinstalling to solve the problem.

I am pretty much decided on returning the card, but if anyone has any ideas about what might be going wrong I would be grateful.

Billy
post #342 of 2932
Try unchecking the box for the particular channels that cause the access violation errors during scanning. The Dvico software was doing that to me on only one QAM channel on my Fusion 3T. Getting rid of that channel got mine working.

And if currently using the latest 3.0 driver, try going back one driver release (the one on the CD).
post #343 of 2932
After spending 4 hours trying to upgrade to the 3.0 software release, I rolled back to 2.99.10, access violations gone.
post #344 of 2932
Ad-Rok; ad-remove programs rarely removes ALL the drivers and 'stuff' a/the program installs!

When I have a trouble install that I can't fix (hardware) that is a important item, I will wipe and reinstall the O/S or use a image of the system before I loaded any programs and try again giving priority to just this program/driver.
post #345 of 2932
Other than being an annoyance during a channel scan, I'm not sure the access violation notices create any problem. I had them when I installed 3.0
post #346 of 2932
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Originally Posted by etcarroll View Post

After spending 4 hours trying to upgrade to the 3.0 software release, I rolled back to 2.99.10, access violations gone.

Thanks all for ideas, I think I'll give etcarroll's suggestion a shot. I'm not going to wipe my entire HTPC XP installation and start from scratch because of this card unless it shows evidence of damaging my other software components and drivers in its wake. If the software is that buggy, then this is not worth my everyday use and it gets returned.

Also, played a DVD and watched OTA HDTV via my MyHD 120 as normal last night and it still works like a charm, which is good to see.

Will report results after uninstalling 3.0 driver and installing driver shipped in box. Wish me luck.

Thanks,
Adam
post #347 of 2932
The DVICO manual suggests installing the software before installing the card and drivers.

Maybe you should take your card out of your slot and do that.
post #348 of 2932
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Originally Posted by Ad-Rok View Post

Will report results after uninstalling 3.0 driver and installing driver shipped in box. Wish me luck.

OK, so I uninstalled drivers, ran CCleaner to make sure all loose registry items were taken care of, and loaded up the 2.99 software/driver version on the CD that came with the unit. Had only one "Access Violation in Code" error so far on a non-tunable DTV station. Seems like I'm up and running OK for now. PQ is OK though seems inferior to my hardware-decoded MyHD-120 output.

I'm still not convinced I want to keep such a sporadically reliable device despite the fact that it only crashes occasionally now. Am disappointed that the supposedly beta-tested newer driver gives me so many errors. DVico indicates on their web site that a new feature of the revised software is "faster channel tuning" and honestly I wonder if they made it too fast for the hardware (or my hardware's) own good. Perhaps the slower lock-on time with the 2.99 drivers helps avoid the constant access violation errors, just a guess.

I also noticed that DVIco lists compatibility with the open source MCE-like software project MediaPortal (http://mediaportal.sourceforge.net). Tinkering with this interface now for kicks since I don't want to gut WinXP for WinMCE. Anyone have success using the BDA drivers to get their DVIco Fusion 5 to play nice with other software than MCE?

The guinea pigging continues, I'll keep all posted if interested.

Thanks,
Adam
post #349 of 2932
adam - i am in the same boat as you with the media portal software - the dvico stuff works fine, but I am having a hell of a time getting it to run on media portal.. very choppy and 100% cpu under the mp interface.. check out http://nolanparty.com/mediaportal.so...ef012811e5ea55
where we have a thread going.. some have it working, others like me do not.. lets see if we can compare notes as we test to see what works best

jim
post #350 of 2932
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Originally Posted by Ad-Rok View Post

Am disappointed that the supposedly beta-tested newer driver gives me so many errors.

Beta means that it's pre-release, as in, it hasn't been fully tested and it is likely buggy.
post #351 of 2932
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Originally Posted by jarjarbinks View Post

Beta means that it's pre-release, as in, it hasn't been fully tested and it is likely buggy.

Per DVico's trumpeting advertisement, this 3.0 version is "Official Release" software, not Beta software. They said this software was beta-*tested* (as in done, finito, past tense). Clearly they have some major flaws to work through in their latest "release" version, and I was expressing disappointment that they did not at least advertise it properly. I think my HTPC config is a fairly common one as well, so it's doubly disappointing that it doesn't work.

Oh well, onward we go.

And Jim -- thanks much for the pointer, I'll watch that thread with interest and will post if I discover anything. The autotune feature appears to be clunky indeed so far with MediaPortal, and not sure I understand those XML tweaks but I'll keep watching and tinkering.

-Adam
post #352 of 2932
Very interesting quick note: I see that just this morning DVico's web site lists version "3.00.01" on their software download page. Does anyone know what change was made in this .01 revision? Dare I install this update and hope to avoid errors?

http://www.fusionhdtv.co.kr/ENG/Download/Software.aspx

[EDIT:] I see changes listed as follows:

<< Changes in Rev 3.00.01 >>
---------------------------------------------------------------
1. Enhanced the channel scan of free-to-air.
2. user interface (UI) is more brightened.
3. Fixed the problem which the cut edit does not work.
4. Fixed the minor bugs.

I guess I'll give this a shot and report results again.

Thanks,
Adam
post #353 of 2932
I had just upgraded a few days ago to the 3.00.00 when I saw your post, Ad-Rok. I just installed the 3.00.01 on my FusionHDTV 3 Gold, and their idea of "enhanced the channel scan of free to air" means they slowed it down to the speed it was before 3.00.00. I did not get any more stations in. And the "user interface" is NOT "more brightened". It looks the exact same as in the 3.00.00.
post #354 of 2932
I'd like to know if the Fusion is free of playback bugs such as chroma error and ICP.

I got a MyHD120 and it's horrible. The only good thing is that it plays fairly everything and stutterfree, but with each fast movement field scene you get terrible macroblocks. I crosschecked with TT and it's not the sterams played.

I was oh so happy to get a MyHD from ebay, but now I found out that the Januschipset just isn't any good.

So much for HW decoding.

Strange though that I couldn't find much info on the errors on AVS.

Thanks.
post #355 of 2932
I've got a Hauppauge WinTV-PVR USB2 and the Fusion 5 Gold. These two don't seem to get along at all and my computer becomes somewhat unstable. The problem looks to be with the two and NTSC. Has anybody found a way to disable the NTSC drivers for the Fusion card and still have the card work at all? Of course I wouldn't have this problem if MCE didn't require a primary NTSC tuner before you could use a digital one (even though the digital can handle NTSC).
post #356 of 2932
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Originally Posted by SiR-ROUND View Post

I'd like to know if the Fusion is free of playback bugs such as chroma error and ICP.

I got a MyHD120 and it's horrible....

Strange though that I couldn't find much info on the errors on AVS.

Did you consider the possibility that the reason that there are no such reports is that most of us don't have bad MyHD cards, as you apparently got from eBay?

I expect that you'd find the Fusion's playback to be essentially the same as you see with TT, since it would be using the same hardware and video driver.
post #357 of 2932
What do you mean bad cards from Ebay? The card works, but the Terralogic Janus chip has errors.

The Fusion has it's own HDTV decoder software, TT uses Nvidia or are they the same?

Thanks.
post #358 of 2932
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Originally Posted by SiR-ROUND View Post

What do you mean bad cards from Ebay? The card works, but the Terralogic Janus chip has errors.

The Fusion has it's own HDTV decoder software, TT uses Nvidia or are they the same?

Isn't a card with a bad chip a "bad card"? I see none of the macroblocking that you describe on any of the three MDP-1xx that I've tested. If you can return it, I would.

Yes, Fusion adds decoding sw, but AIUI the color mapping, etc., is handled by the same overlay/VMR sw and hw as TT would be using. That's why I say you should see the same sort of result.
post #359 of 2932
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Originally Posted by pmn929 View Post

I've got a Hauppauge WinTV-PVR USB2 and the Fusion 5 Gold. These two don't seem to get along at all and my computer becomes somewhat unstable. The problem looks to be with the two and NTSC. Has anybody found a way to disable the NTSC drivers for the Fusion card and still have the card work at all? Of course I wouldn't have this problem if MCE didn't require a primary NTSC tuner before you could use a digital one (even though the digital can handle NTSC).

I have the same setup and am seeing the same result. I have two Fusion 5's though.

Have you tried disabling the crossbar as describe here:
http://www.fusionhdtv.co.kr/ENG/Supp...ID=9&SCATID=42

I haven't tried this yet but will try tonight.

-ASM
post #360 of 2932
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Originally Posted by allanmac View Post

I have the same setup and am seeing the same result. I have two Fusion 5's though.

Have you tried disabling the crossbar as describe here:
http://www.fusionhdtv.co.kr/ENG/Supp...ID=9&SCATID=42

I haven't tried this yet but will try tonight.

-ASM

I'm glad to know I'm not the only one. Let me know how it works. The problem is definitely caused by the multiple tuners.
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