Originally Posted by BenDover
you may still be able to take advantage of an external processor by having it do its magic and provide a 1080i signal to the 1080p set that doesn't accept 1080p.
The reasoning for the use of an External Processors would be it's ability to outperform most internal processors in the Interlaced to Progressive transition, to include proper cadence detection. If you were to decide to use an external processor (with a no 1080p input HDTV) you might get a better result setting the External Processor for a 720-progressive output so that the TV's internal de-interlacer and cadence detection wouldn't have to interfere. It would then just be a matter of scaling to the native resolution of the set (1080p).
If the TV were left to handle the last interlaced-to-progressive transition, you would be defeating one of the core reasons of having the External Processor in the first place.
So if neither of the new native 1080p sets have the ability to accept the native 1080p input, I doubt any would justify the expense of using external video processing equipment.
This would leave the overall PQ between the two sets up to each respective manufacture's capabilities in the separate areas of Display and Video Processing technologies.
IMO: The Sony SXRD might well have the edge if this ends up being the case. Which is why I could see a reason for a JVC surprise.
I guess it may be to the advantage of the HDTV manufacturers to control the final Interlacing-to-progressive transition by keeping it In-The-Set. This would force the consumer into a selection of a HDTV based on it's stronger capabilities, whatever they might be, at somewhat the expense of also having to accept it's weaker traits.
The more diversified/opinionated the better, but only to their (all in one) controlled extent! Besides, the majority of consumers will have the likes of BB and CC to tell them what to look for anyway.
Maybe it's just another first-generation (1080p) thing that can be remedied by this spring, by waiting on the second-generation 1080p sets. While it might be easier for those that already own 720p sets to convince themselves to wait for 1080p native input sets, those of us that are poised to make an investment now, to get into the HDTV scene, would be doing so with the knowledge that we might be investing in our own obsolescence for the sake of the manufacturer's justification of a second generation of 1080p RP sets. By holding out on the native inputs until next year they could market the RP products to be a much less expensive alternative to the SED/FED technology.
Then again the question might be, who stands to gain the most from being the first to offer 1080p native input now.
Given the SXRD and JVC 1080p choice, I would choose the Sony if they offered the 1080p input but only if JVC didn't. If neither offered 1080p input then I would still lean towards the Sony.
If JVC has anticipated the competition's edge (as I have) they might surprise Sony with the 1080p input capability as a feature to be expected MIA on the new SXRD.
If 1080p inputs are a surprise on both sets I might lean towards the less expensive set so I could more easily afford the external video processor.
So in my eyes (IMO) JVC has the most to gain by the inclusion of the 1080p input over Sony deciding to or not.
It will be awhile (if ever) before the HDTV manufacturers will include as good a video processing package as can be had from current external processors. The exception might be the likes of Sony's Qualia line but you'll likely pay at least twice that of what you could expect to invest on a comparable separate Display and Video Processing set up. It would also cost you more, inevitably, to upgrade and you would be depending on the All-In-One-Spare-No-Cost product's ability to stay at the top of the game(s) in each respective category of PQ, else a complete replacement which I'm certain they would be happy to supply.
Interesting is Sony's decision not to have included the 1080p input capability on the Qualia RP SXRD.
Does/Did Sony include 1080p input on front projection products?
If so, I guess the competition may have encouraged it's inclusion more in that FP market than the RP market or it would have been on the Qualia RP SXRD.
We can hope that the same competition will encourage inclusion of it in the RP market as well.