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post #331 of 754
I tried watching Office Space and Fight Club this weekend and noticed that they both play squished. The aspect ratio on each is too wide, I guess. Office Space is 1.85:1 and Fight Club is 2.24:1 (if i remember correctly). The letterboxed image is stretched horrizontally no matter what zoom I set on either my Sony 42" 42WE655 or S77. Is there a special setting on the S77 for this size mismatch? These are the only 2 DVDs out of about 30 I've watched so far which have this problem.
post #332 of 754
Have you guys noticed the S77 has problem playing certain DVD movies?

If ZOOM is set at “Auto†and JUST FIT ZOOM is set to "x1", some movies like Crimson Tide, Mission Impossible, Broken Arrow, and Con Air, the player goes into a 4x3 pillar block mode showing the movie with borders at the right, left, top, and bottom. Picture looks normal but tiny. If ZOOM is set to "16x9 standard", no pillar block but the picture is squeezed vertically. This occurred with HDMI and component.

The might be a common with Panasonic players because my DVD-RP56 does the same thing. No problem with a JVC XV-S65.
post #333 of 754
Quote:
Originally Posted by sueio
Have you guys noticed the S77 has problem playing certain DVD movies?

If ZOOM is set at “Auto†and JUST FIT ZOOM is set to "x1", some movies like Crimson Tide, Mission Impossible, Broken Arrow, and Con Air, the player goes into a 4x3 pillar block mode showing the movie with borders at the right, left, top, and bottom. Picture looks normal but tiny. If ZOOM is set to "16x9 standard", no pillar block but the picture is squeezed vertically. This occurred with HDMI and component.

The might be a common with Panasonic players because my DVD-RP56 does the same thing. No problem with a JVC XV-S65.
Are you sure your DVDs are widescreen versions and not full screen ones?
post #334 of 754
Question to all S77 owners:

Are you guys using the included HDMI cable for your player or did you buy a different one? Are you getting better results with the different cable? Where did you buy the cable? How much?

I am thinking of buying a new HDMI cable. Maybe not the belkins or the monster craps but something that's better than this oem. I noticed that the free cable is not even gold plated. Here are my choices so far:

choice 1 - http://www.american-audio-video.com/...MI-HDMI+Cables

choice 2 - http://www.monoprice.com/products/pr...ormat=2&style=

Anyone using any of the 2 above? Which to get?

TIA
post #335 of 754
If your current OEM HDMI cable is not good enough, it will be very obvious, pixelation, audio drops, or no picture at all. Otherwise, you will see zero improvement with a "better" cable. Unlike analog, you don't see gradual degradation with digital interconnects. You see extreme degradation, so either it is good enough or not.
post #336 of 754
That monoprice cable is such a great value and it's not a chinsy cable either. I can't believe anyone would pay more to get the same picture.
post #337 of 754
I love this player. The picture quality is awesome....but why does 480p look the best thru the HDMI...1080i looks awful on my toshiba HM dlp....I presume it is because my tv has a better scaler??
post #338 of 754
I use the HDMI cable that came with the player. My reasoning is if Panny didn't think it would work well with their player they would not have sent it. I really like the player; but doesn't it only pass 720p or 1080i thru HDMI?
post #339 of 754
I bought a 25ft from monoprice, very good results.

not sure I would buy a different cable than the included cable if I needed the same length.
post #340 of 754
Quote:
Originally Posted by masbama
I use the HDMI cable that came with the player. My reasoning is if Panny didn't think it would work well with their player they would not have sent it. I really like the player; but doesn't it only pass 720p or 1080i thru HDMI?
It does 480p, 720p, and 1080i thru HDMI (720 and 1080 are upconverted). It only does 480p thru component - no upconverting thru component.
post #341 of 754
Hi. I'm considering the S77 but wants to know if it has a better PQ and overall performance than the OPPO and Samsung HD941. Thanks.
post #342 of 754
I bought the same 25' cable from Monoprice at it very good. No sparkles, it seems like a high quality cable and the price was right.
post #343 of 754
RAM is one of the sponsors of AVS Forum and their cables are excellent. Their prices are very good also.

http://www.ramelectronics.net/
post #344 of 754
I'm not arguing about the quality but how can you say those prices are good???
post #345 of 754
Quote:
Originally Posted by nothru22
I'm not arguing about the quality but how can you say those prices are good???
My only metric was the HDMI to HDMI cable. The quality is excellent and the price for the 6' length is very good considering what you are buying.
post #346 of 754
I've had my S77 for several weeks now. I'm using the included HDMI cable to connect to my Pioneer plasma with apparently good results.

I've looked for MB on all the mentioned DVDs and, yes I can see it to some extent. I purchased from an online vendor (E Cost) and really don't want to go through the trouble on returning it because of the little bit of MB I see ( plus there doesn't seem to be an alternative, at the same price range, that is all that much better). I made the suggested adjustments (thank you all) and have basically just sat back and have been enjoying the beautiful picture.

I will keep and eye out here for any news of firmware upgrades, but I'm really glad I made this purchase.
post #347 of 754
Ok I bought the monoprice cable.

Quick question: Have you guys watched the American Wedding DVD (sequel to American Pie) with your S77? I am hinting that the DVD encoding is just terrible. I was seeing some shadows in the faces of the characters on scenes where they are afar. Also the colors were not so good at all. I tried using 480p, 720p and 1080i modes but still saw the issues. I also had to set the overscan on my GW4 to +1 to cover the whole screen.
post #348 of 754
Hi, My Panasonic RP82 stopped working last week, it can't read any disc, so I decided to buy the S77, after reading all your comments, thank you. So far I am very pleased with the S77, the video is stunning and the audio is even better than the RP82.

My question is about the difference between the S77 and S97.

From what I can make out on the Panasonic site is that the S97 has MPEG Digital Noise Reduction (Mosquito/Block/3D), the S77 does not or is not listed.

The S97 has Dolby Surround Pro Logic II, the S77 does not.

And the Component Video Out (Y, PB, PR) on the S97 is Switchable (480P/480I), switchable is not listed for the S77.

I also see that Hi Speed Scan is x100 on the S97 and x200 on the S77. As well as Dynamic Range: DVD-Video (LPCM) 100dB on the S97, and 102dB on the S77.

I am not using HDMI because my Sony KP-53HS10 TV does not have that input. I use 480p progressive video instead with my S77 and it looks wonderful.

But, are there any advantages to getting the S97 over the S77? Again, I am very happy with the S77, but wonder if I'm missing something the S97 has that the S77 does not.

Thanks, Rick
post #349 of 754
The S97 is supposed to have less macroblocking. They also say it has better build quality. I would say the S77 is fine though.
post #350 of 754
So far I don't see any MB on the S77, after watching many DVD's. Should I notice MB with 480p or only if using HDMI? I am not using HDMI. Can MB show up in either?

Thanks, Rick
post #351 of 754
It is only on HDMI people complain about it.
post #352 of 754
That is untrue. Macroblocking can be seen over component at 480p, it is just much less pronounced.
post #353 of 754
I didn't say it didn't exist, I said that is where they complain about it. I have never seen Macroblocking with my S97 over component.
post #354 of 754
Rick - the S77 has MPEG DNR. Regarding macroblocking, I am in agreement with nothru22 and you can see it on virtually any player and TV with a disk that isn't encoded all that well. In certain areas of North by Northwest it's just there inherently although you can really see the true limitations of the disk over HDMI if the brightness is up too much. I wonder really how much difference there is between the S77 and S97 and would guess it's not a huge amount if you compared a blind test side by side except to the true videophile perhaps.
post #355 of 754
Ok I figured out what was causing the shadows on the images during scenes from afar. It was the 4:3 setting and the just fit zoon both set to auto. When I changed them back to normal and then 16:9 standard, the image was again as sharp as ever. I was just told that 4:3 normal would also work along with the 16:9 standard on the just fit zoom. This DVD players PQ is amazingly sharp. I had the OPPO earlier which had a fantastic PQ as well but had to return it. Now wonder people here pit those 2 against each other. So far this S77 is a definite keeper.
post #356 of 754
Thanks everyone. I think I will stay with the S77 because it is such a great player and the video in 480p progressive is outstanding. I'm amazed at how good the video is on all the DVD's I've watched so far, in fact, when I bring out DVD's I have not watched for a while, it is as if I'm seeing them for the first time. And I thought my RP82 was amazing, this S77 is even better. I can't think of what more the S97 would do better than the S77, since I'm already blown away every time I watch a movie on this S77.

By the way, I'm pleased with the disc tray as well, seems sturdy to me, and it is much quieter and solid feeling than the one on my RP82, plus I like the clear tray with blue light, very cool looking.

Thanks, Rick
post #357 of 754
Rick Col:
I agree with you, I see that the clear tray on my S77 is of good quality and thickness. I think that the fact that it is transparent gives the illusion of it being light weight... because it looks light weight.

I also like the blue light, but have set mine to only come on when the tray opens, otherwise I find it distracting when it glows all the time.
post #358 of 754
Is the Panasonic S77/S97 capable of outputing via HDMI and component simultaneously? (I realize that component will be 480 only...that's fine)
post #359 of 754
Quote:
Originally Posted by mpalmieri1203
I love this player. The picture quality is awesome....but why does 480p look the best thru the HDMI...1080i looks awful on my toshiba HM dlp....I presume it is because my tv has a better scaler??

I have the Toshiba 52HM84 and agree that 1080i is by far the worst of the three choices via HDMI. Your best bet is to set the S77 to 480P and let the Toshiba upconvert to 720P.
post #360 of 754
I have had this DVD player for four days now (hooked up with my new Panasonic TC-22LH30 TV). I have watched: Lord of the Rings, Elling, 12 Monkeys, and Lemony Snickets and they look amazing (Elling and 12 Monkeys werent as good quality)!

So far I have NO complaints about this purchase. I love the PQ. Im using the HDMI connection from DVD to TV and am upconverting to 1080i. Im not sure what looks better yet, 780p or 1080i as they both look wonderful.

This is better PQ than what is in my living room and that makes me sad. I cant switch because the bigger TV out there has no HDMI input :( and I dont have much money and a baby is on the way!

Great DVD player for the price in my opinion.
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