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post #691 of 928
Third party. I bought the Warrantech +4 year extended warranty through Amazon.com (same product, much better price than TV dealers). Note that even though it's called an extended warranty, strictly speaking it's an extended service contract since it's from a third party and not the oiginal manufacturer.
post #692 of 928
I posted on a separate thread, however, maybe it is best to post here. Who is using the DRE feature under the Pro Adjust menu? With my new 5050 it seems that you NEED to use DRE, unless you set the contrast high (36 or so), and increase the brightness (+14 or so).

Here are my initial settings:

Contrast: 25
Brightness: 0
Color: -10
Tint: 0
Sharpness: 0
Color Temp: Mid
MPEG NR: On
DNR: Mid
CTI: Off
DRE: on

I also like the "movie" mode for settings.
post #693 of 928
Thread Starter 
Quote:
Originally Posted by Tallcane
Quesions for Pio owners:

Does Pioneer offer an extended warranty or do you have to purchase through a third party?
Should you purchase your plasma with a ( platinum or gold ) VISA card, your warrantee is doubled. I know, mine is. ray
post #694 of 928
Quote:
Originally Posted by rentwist
Should you purchase your plasma with a ( platinum or gold ) VISA card, your warrantee is doubled. I know, mine is. ray
What if you get free 18 month financing, but pay off the balance when due with your platinum or gold card - would you still get the extra warrantee? :confused:
post #695 of 928
Thread Starter 
Keep it up, you'll have me confused...If you purchase the plasma w/visa card. The warrantty is doubled whether it takes 10 days or 10 yrs. to pay it off. Anything else, you'll have to call visa. The # is on the back of your card, ray.
post #696 of 928
Quote:
Originally Posted by rentwist
Keep it up, you'll have me confused...If you purchase the plasma w/visa card. The warrantty is doubled whether it takes 10 days or 10 yrs. to pay it off. Anything else, you'll have to call visa. The # is on the back of your card, ray.
Let me explain. Circuit City has a promotion, through a bank, that provides for 18 months of interest free financing. I am taking advantage of that. If I charge the final payment (after 18 months) to my platinum credit card - will I get the extra year of warranty?

I will call the CC card company to get an answer.
post #697 of 928
I'm guessing you'd need to put the whole purchase on the VISA for the 1 year extra warranty to be in effect. If you finance via CC's program, I doubt you'll get the extra free warranty, unless you purchase the extended one from CC or another vendor.
post #698 of 928
Quote:
Originally Posted by Mit07
I posted on a separate thread, however, maybe it is best to post here. Who is using the DRE feature under the Pro Adjust menu? With my new 5050 it seems that you NEED to use DRE, unless you set the contrast high (36 or so), and increase the brightness (+14 or so).

Here are my initial settings:

Contrast: 25
Brightness: 0
Color: -10
Tint: 0
Sharpness: 0
Color Temp: Mid
MPEG NR: On
DNR: Mid
CTI: Off
DRE: on

I also like the "movie" mode for settings.
I have experimented with DRE off, but I think it really needs to be on. If I had a Pioneer Elite model, I could choose DRE-low, instead of just "on" or "off." But with "on" or "off" as the choices, I choose "on." My other settings are:

Contrast: +25, Brightness: +2, Color: -15, Tint: -2, Sharpness: -1, PureCinema: Adv, Color Temp: Low, MPEG NR: On, DNR: Low, CTI: Off, DRE: On.
post #699 of 928
Quote:
Originally Posted by Sleep Doc
I have experimented with DRE off, but I think it really needs to be on. If I had a Pioneer Elite model, I could choose DRE-low, instead of just "on" or "off." But with "on" or "off" as the choices, I choose "on." My other settings are:

Contrast: +25, Brightness: +2, Color: -15, Tint: -2, Sharpness: -1, PureCinema: Adv, Color Temp: Low, MPEG NR: On, DNR: Low, CTI: Off, DRE: On.
Thanks for the feedback. Your settings are very similar to mine. How long have you had the display - are these "break-in" settings or your "normal" settings?

The only time the picture looks good w/o DRE is in the movie mode - with contrast at 36, brightness at +14, color at -8, tint at 0, and sharpness at -1.
post #700 of 928
Does anyone have any advise? I have a PDP-5051HD purchased on 08-17-05 from BB and its has been working well until Saturday when I pressed the power button on the remote (system had been off for several hours) the system started to power-up the media unit and panels showed green power lights the the system clicked off. The media unit switch to stand-by while the panel has and blinking stand-by (red) light that appears to be flashing and #4 code or least it flashes 4 times stops then repeats. I have unplugged both unit and restarted the system multiple times even left it unplugged the last two night while out town, of course, with the same results.
post #701 of 928
Quote:
Originally Posted by CLC29
Does anyone have any advise?
Unfortunately it's time to call Pioneer service. I feel your pain. :(
post #702 of 928
yeah I figure it is DOA! Called BB yesterday and tried the reset they recommended no luck. Called their service center and local company is to be calling today to set up and appointment I have a bad feeling it will be inside the panel and new one from Pioneer will be the only fix ;(
really sad that something that cost as much as this fails so quickly
post #703 of 928
This weekend I brought home a Pioneer 5050 that was a display model. I was able to check the hours at the store using the service menu: 1850 hours. Does anyone think this is too long? The panel shows no sign of burn-in. I'm sure it was in "torch" mode all the time, but it showed either a HD loop or a HD all of the time. If the panel really has a 60,000 half life, I figured that I bought a TV with a years worth of use on it. The savings were substantial, but at the same time I wanted to know if any of the experts on the board thought this was a bad idea. If everything else is working fine and no burn in, I should be fine, right? BTW, I was looking at a Panasonic because I enjoy watching movies in the dark and all reviews that I have seen say that Panasonic as better black levels but the price was too good to pass up on the Pioneer. I am probably one of the few people who bought a Pioneer because it was cheaper than a Panasonic!
post #704 of 928
Palmetto,
Don't have an answer because I'm clearly no expert ... but I do have a question for you. You mentioned that you were able to check the hours using the service menu? Do you mind sharing how to get that info (and excusing my ignorance while doing so)?
post #705 of 928
Just bought the 5050 last week at CC - I was going to wait for the new panels but got into a 50 for what I planned to spend on a 43.

Enjoying it so far - looks great.
post #706 of 928
Grogger,
Put plasma and media box in standby mode.
Press display on remote.
Wait 3 seconds.
Press Left, UP, Left, Right and Power on the remote.

Wait (it's not immediate) and the information page is shown.
Press the down key to move through the individual menus.
Press Mute to move through the menus.

Good luck. If it doesn't work, try again.
post #707 of 928
Good info Palmetto, thanks.
post #708 of 928
Hello Guys, I was wondering if you can help me with your expertise. I just bought a 5050HD from best buy (so really 5051HD). I had to get a display model because they ran out of the new ones. There does not seem to be any burn in, or bad pixels. However when watching Dish Network I am getting extremely bad picture. Now I understand that standard tv will look bad, but this is looking worse then my 27inch sony trinton crt. The images look kind of distorted and not clear. I know these tv's are made for HD but no matter what source you have(cable,satellite,ota) there are only 20 or so HD channels out there. So everyone who owns this plasma must be watching non-hdtv at some point. The international channels look bad too and thats what I need dish network for. Also isn't satellite atleast digital? When watching DVD's they are clear obviously, but there is still something not right. I am using component input for my DVD player and S-Video for my satellite. I have tried many settings, put the a/v settings on factory reset (standard,user,movie) and this still has not improved. It could be because the 50inch is to large for my room, we are about 9 feet away from the tv. Please help, I have 30 days to return this tv. If you have any questions about my setup feel free to ask.
post #709 of 928
For me, SD stations do not look as clear as my old CRT either, but I wouldn't call it "distorted." DVDs should look good though. Try changing the resolution from the Dish STB and DVD player. Made a slight improvement for me. Can you change to DVI or HDMI interconnects?
post #710 of 928
The bad SD picture is most likely a combination of highly-compressed satellite feeds and the (crappy) S-Video connection. No other brand of plasma would do a better job in this case. If there is no better connection availabe out of your Dish box, try composite video (yes, the single coaxial connector) just for kicks. Sometimes the TV does a better job of separating luma/chroma signals than the cheap circuitry in set-top boxes. Don't expect any miracles, though. If you want to get your money's worth out of your new PDP, upgrade your satellite set-top box. Or go with cable.

Do you have any HD sources? How does HD look?
post #711 of 928
Thread Starter 
Quote:
Originally Posted by Bobby1129s
Hello Guys, I was wondering if you can help me with your expertise. I just bought a 5050HD from best buy (so really 5051HD). I had to get a display model because they ran out of the new ones. There does not seem to be any burn in, or bad pixels. However when watching Dish Network I am getting extremely bad picture. Now I understand that standard tv will look bad, but this is looking worse then my 27inch sony trinton crt. The images look kind of distorted and not clear. I know these tv's are made for HD but no matter what source you have(cable,satellite,ota) there are only 20 or so HD channels out there. So everyone who owns this plasma must be watching non-hdtv at some point. The international channels look bad too and thats what I need dish network for. Also isn't satellite atleast digital? When watching DVD's they are clear obviously, but there is still something not right. I am using component input for my DVD player and S-Video for my satellite. I have tried many settings, put the a/v settings on factory reset (standard,user,movie) and this still has not improved. It could be because the 50inch is to large for my room, we are about 9 feet away from the tv. Please help, I have 30 days to return this tv. If you have any questions about my setup feel free to ask.
I can't speak for Dish, but my digital cable box, using a regular old coax feed into MB produced "very good " PQ. When I hooked it up HDMI, it produce "exceptional " PQ. The 5050 does awsome scaling/ refinement of PQ. I'm not sure if dish is digital, or what kind of connections it has. Are you letting the 5050 do all the work? I sit 7' from mine and love it. Hope this helps, ray.
post #712 of 928
Quote:
Originally Posted by gohd
For me, SD stations do not look as clear as my old CRT either, but I wouldn't call it "distorted." DVDs should look good though. Try changing the resolution from the Dish STB and DVD player. Made a slight improvement for me. Can you change to DVI or HDMI interconnects?
I don't think I can change my resolution on STB (what does STB stand for by the way) but I think I can change it for my DVD Player. I just remembered I should also change my DVD to anamorphic view, thanks for reminding me. Also my Dish STB or DVD doesn't have HDMI.
post #713 of 928
Quote:
Originally Posted by mooneydriver
The bad SD picture is most likely a combination of highly-compressed satellite feeds and the (crappy) S-Video connection. No other brand of plasma would do a better job in this case. If there is no better connection availabe out of your Dish box, try composite video (yes, the single coaxial connector) just for kicks. Sometimes the TV does a better job of separating luma/chroma signals than the cheap circuitry in set-top boxes. Don't expect any miracles, though. If you want to get your money's worth out of your new PDP, upgrade your satellite set-top box. Or go with cable.

Do you have any HD sources? How does HD look?

I could upgrade my satellite set-top box to say one that has component output, but as long as the feed coming in from Dish sucks what would the component box do versus s-video? I will plug in cable to get hd source and check out quality with that. But the family will be watching a lot of dish network channels in sd so I need to make sure it works adequately for that also. Someone mentioned getting a box that upconverts the signal by applying progressive scan box or line multiplier. Does anyone have any experience with that?
post #714 of 928
A Dish box with component output will improve quality for SD.

Don't spend money on scalers/upconverters. No such external box will yield a miracle and generate a better picture when the source (compressed SD signal on Dish) has very low resolution to begin with. A 50" screen enlarges all imperfections of the signal. Once again, a Panasonic or even a Fujitsu will not perform any better under these circumstances.

For whatever it's worth, I am very pleased with the SD picture quality via cable on my 5050 -- even with analog cable channels. If your family will be watching a lot of SD programming, you need to think about switching to a better source. Are you not able to get all the SD channels you want through cable?
post #715 of 928
Hey Guys, I need some help. My amp died yesterday. I tried to hook up the 5050 speakers but I couldn't get any sound. I ran 2 cables from the analogue audio out on Motorola cable box into input 1 on the MR. I got nothing. I tried the cables in all of the inputs and got nothing. I went into the menu of the TV and disabled the HDMI input and got nothing except I even lost the picture. I'm at a loss and would like to have sound so I can watch the games this weekend. I won't get my new amp until next week. I'm feeling pretty dumb. :( I need some help. Thanks.
post #716 of 928
From everything that I've read, the Panny's are popular with a nice price to performace ratio, but I also think that the Pioneer has much better colors and possibly a better picture over all. That, combined with the sleek black look, the media center, and the 2 HDMI inputs made this a much better choice than the Panny's IMHO.

But both times I've been into see the TV's (best buy and circuit city), I have to admit, the Pioneer didn't look quite as good as the Panasonic. Now I know the settings can be all messed up and the only way to evaluate the TV is in your own living room with the settings adjusted. Even my wife noticed this tonite. I've tried to dismiss it thinking if I got the Pioneer, I will have made the right choice either way.

But I wanted to know....for those of you with the 5050 or 5051, have you gone into the stores and had my experience? Or has the Pioneer stood out as the 100% better TV and you knew right away that was the TV for you?

Just curious,
Aaron
post #717 of 928
Thread Starter 
the PIO was the best, bar none. I went to CC and BB and they both had the Pio, settings right out of the box. It shined above all the rest. So I bought one online for 1/2 their price back in June.
post #718 of 928
Thread Starter 
Quote:
Originally Posted by Glashub
Hey Guys, I need some help. My amp died yesterday. I tried to hook up the 5050 speakers but I couldn't get any sound. I ran 2 cables from the analogue audio out on Motorola cable box into input 1 on the MR. I got nothing. I tried the cables in all of the inputs and got nothing. I went into the menu of the TV and disabled the HDMI input and got nothing except I even lost the picture. I'm at a loss and would like to have sound so I can watch the games this weekend. I won't get my new amp until next week. I'm feeling pretty dumb. :( I need some help. Thanks.
I 'm confused. Is this an external amp you're talking about, not the plasmas. The 5050 shouldn't have amp probs already? Try running a coax from STB to MR. As long as PDP spkrs are hooked into the MB you should get sound, even thru the HDMI. Unless I'm missing something, ray.
post #719 of 928
Thanks Rentwist. got it figured out. In the menus in the HDMI selection one is given a choice for each input - Auto, Digital and Analog. Selecting Analog is a must.

Yes, it was my 7 channel amp that died which is why I am using the plasma speakers until I get a new amp.
post #720 of 928
Thread Starter 
If your STB is digital then select digital and run your HDMI cable. You'll get both sound +pic.
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