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post #61 of 951
Since the COSTCO website states this TV receives both NTSC and ATSC signals and that previous Sceptre LCD models have used the Zinwell boards but only received ATSC signals (EDIT) or NTSC signals but not both... I have concluded that the X37SV-Naga III TV will be using the only other board Zinwell ZOC 600MB board which receives (NTSC/ATSC) in addtion to supporting the HDMI interface.

Specification and PDF document are available here....

http://www.zinwell.com.tw/pro_profil...productsid=219

This board includes the Cable Card interface but the Costco website does not mention this.

If this is truely the board they are using...then I am really excited that the tuner output HD & SD simulaneously and includes Electronic Program Guide.

If the picture quality is good this will give the Sharp Aquos 37" a run for it's money.
post #62 of 951
Can anyone hazard to guess the dimensions of the Costco 37" Sceptre without the speakers? I have a furniture limitation and the width with speakers is definitely too large. I'm just hoping the without speakers dimension will fit.

Thanks,
.joe
post #63 of 951
Well my limitation is 39" width. I am fairly confident this will fit without any problems. What is your width limitation?

I would imagine the speakers are atleast 3.5" width. So that would give the cabinet a size of width 37 inches.

A Sharp Aquos TV has the following widths...

43 25/64" ( with speakers)
36 7/64" ( without speakers)
post #64 of 951
Quote:
Originally Posted by jtreyes2000
Can anyone hazard to guess the dimensions of the Costco 37" Sceptre without the speakers? I have a furniture limitation and the width with speakers is definitely too large. I'm just hoping the without speakers dimension will fit.

Thanks,
.joe
The specs at the Costco website state that speakers are built-in. I know those specs sometimes are incorrect, but it might indeed be the case that they are not removable. Ibelieve with the speakers the width is around 44.5
post #65 of 951
Very good news. Hope you're right on this.
post #66 of 951
Quote:
Originally Posted by TauRus
The specs at the Costco website state that speakers are built-in. I know those specs sometimes are incorrect, but it might indeed be the case that they are not removable. Ibelieve with the speakers the width is around 44.5
You maybe correct but the image shown on the Costco website looks very similier to the X37SV-Naga II which has removable speakers . Only difference visually is that the Costco version is black and has a different stand.

http://www.sceptre.com/Products/LCD/...%20300x300.jpg
Sceptre - X37SV-NagaII

http://www.costco.com/Images/Content...ct/896288L.jpg
Costco - X37SV-NagaIII
post #67 of 951
Quote:
Originally Posted by Loren Kruse.
Since the COSTCO website states this TV receives both NTSC and ATSC signals and that previous Sceptre LCD models have used the Zinwell boards but only received ATSC signals... I have concluded that the X37SV-Naga III TV will be using the only other board Zinwell ZOC 600MB board which receives (NTSC/ATSC) in addtion to supporting the HDMI interface.

This board includes the Cable Card interface but the Costco website does not mention this. If this is truely the board they are using...then I am really excited that the tuner output HD & SD simulaneously and includes Electronic Program Guide.
Let's hope this proves to be the case. This TV looks a lot more attractive with those features, especially at this price point.
post #68 of 951
Quote:
Originally Posted by TauRus
The specs at the Costco website state that speakers are built-in. I know those specs sometimes are incorrect, but it might indeed be the case that they are not removable. Ibelieve with the speakers the width is around 44.5
While it does state the speakers are built in, further down under "General" specs it states "Removable Speakers and Stand".
post #69 of 951
Loren - I'm not sure what you mean when you say previous naga models only receive ATSC signals. The 30" naga-III that I have has a built-in NTSC tuner but not ATSC tuner.
post #70 of 951
Quote:
Originally Posted by viggster
Loren - I'm not sure what you mean when you say previous naga models only receive ATSC signals. The 30" naga-III that I have has a built-in NTSC tuner but not ATSC tuner.
Correct. Previous NAgas only had NTSC/PAL tuners.
post #71 of 951
Quote:
Originally Posted by TauRus
Correct. Previous NAgas only had NTSC/PAL tuners.
My bad...

The previous models had either NTSC or ATSC but not both.


X37SV-Naga - NTSC ?


X37SV-NagaII - ATSC Only


The X37SV-Naga II has a link to the Zinwell board it uses.
post #72 of 951
Quote:
Originally Posted by Loren Kruse.
My bad...

The previous models had either NTSC or ATSC but not both.


X37SV-Naga - NTSC ?


X37SV-NagaII - ATSC Only


The X37SV-Naga II has a link to the Zinwell board it uses.
OK, I see. I thought by "previous models" you meant older Sceptre LCD panels like X30SV-NagaIII or the 32" version. Apparently you referred to the new 37" lower tier models.
Btw, I am still somewhat hopeful that the 37" model that Costco will have on sale in August will look somewhat different from the photos above. I sort of like the other design.
LL
post #73 of 951
OK guys i dont want to admit i was wrong but I was

I bought the 32 inch sceptre which is a smaller version of the new 37 comming out

And it sucks, I had a better picture with the 30 inch sceptre then with this 32

Im returning it and getting the sharp

Good luck to you though, maybe it will be good and have new components

either way, stay away from the 32, it arrived to me broke, and with a worse picture then the cheap 30 inch
post #74 of 951
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Originally Posted by tommylotto
You can get the Westinghouse today for the same price. I know it is listed for more on the web site, but I went into a store and they gave it to me for the same price mentioned in this thread for the Costco Naga. But if you like waiting months, go ahead...
Attention 1080P lovers:
1080P means nothing on a crappy TV. Just look at the Westy 37", aweful. Just because it does 1080P doesn't mean it's automatically better than a 720P set. A good 1080P set will cost hundreds if not thousands more. Numbers on the card mean nothing, it's what's inside that determines the quality of the TV. And if you sit 9 or 10 ft away with a 50" or less screen it doesn't matter what it is, you can't tell. A good quality 720P set 50" and under would be sufficient for most people for years to come.
post #75 of 951
Quote:
Originally Posted by lipcrkr
Attention 1080P lovers:
1080P means nothing on a crappy TV. Just look at the Westy 37", aweful. Just because it does 1080P doesn't mean it's automatically better than a 720P set. A good 1080P set will cost hundreds if not thousands more. Numbers on the card mean nothing, it's what's inside that determines the quality of the TV. And if you sit 9 or 10 ft away with a 50" or less screen it doesn't matter what it is, you can't tell. A good quality 720P set 50" and under would be sufficient for most people for years to come.
Yes & no.. 1080p is still superior to 720 & 1080i, & yes, theres more to PQ then a higher resolution.. WE won't know for sure until we see progressive scan 1080p HD DVD players early next yr..
post #76 of 951
Quote:
Originally Posted by TauRus
OK, I see. I thought by "previous models" you meant older Sceptre LCD panels like X30SV-NagaIII or the 32" version. Apparently you referred to the new 37" lower tier models.
Btw, I am still somewhat hopeful that the 37" model that Costco will have on sale in August will look somewhat different from the photos above. I sort of like the other design.

Where did you obtain that picture at (i.e. other deisgn)?
post #77 of 951
Quote:
Originally Posted by Loren Kruse.
Where did you obtain that picture at (i.e. other deisgn)?
At the Sceptre web site.
post #78 of 951
Quote:
Originally Posted by lipcrkr
Attention 1080P lovers:
1080P means nothing on a crappy TV. Just look at the Westy 37", aweful. Just because it does 1080P doesn't mean it's automatically better than a 720P set. A good 1080P set will cost hundreds if not thousands more. Numbers on the card mean nothing, it's what's inside that determines the quality of the TV. And if you sit 9 or 10 ft away with a 50" or less screen it doesn't matter what it is, you can't tell. A good quality 720P set 50" and under would be sufficient for most people for years to come.
That may be true if all you want is a TV, but if you want it for an HTPC, then 1080P is king. The computer can do a great job of scaling DVD and standard-definition content.
post #79 of 951
Quote:
Yes & no.. 1080p is still superior to 720 & 1080i, & yes, theres more to PQ then a higher resolution.. WE won't know for sure until we see progressive scan 1080p HD DVD players early next yr..
Not sure I understand this. Doesn't 1080i take a 1080p display to show full resolution? What is the difference between a 1080i display and a 1080p display, I thought they were the same.
post #80 of 951
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Originally Posted by Randall Morton
Not sure I understand this. Doesn't 1080i take a 1080p display to show full resolution? What is the difference between a 1080i display and a 1080p display, I thought they were the same.
If you assume that all high-definition displays are inherently progressive scan, then that would be correct. However, in theory there could exist a native 1080i display--such as a 1080-line CRT that accepts only interlaced input (honestly, I have no idea if such a thing exists, though).
post #81 of 951
Quote:
Originally Posted by TauRus
At the Sceptre web site.
So, does anyone no which design Sceptre will be using for the Costco 37" HDTV? The one pictured on the Costco website or the one shown on their coupon which looks the same as what TauRus recently posted which doesn't seem to have removable speakers.

The spec's on the Costco website indicate removable speakers so I would think it would be the older design.

I have already sent Sceptre several questions about the TV...perhaps someone else here can inquire on which design the TV will be and report back...

They seemed to answer my questions reasonbly fast the email is costco@sceptre.com
post #82 of 951
Quote:
Originally Posted by Loren Kruse.
Where did you obtain that picture at (i.e. other deisgn)?
It is the same as the one printed in the Costco coupon book as well.
The attached one above silver frame with black speakers.
post #83 of 951
Well Sceptre responded to my questions about the TV with the following statement:

Quote:
Dear Customer,

Regarding the 37" LCD TV, we are currently still tweaking with the specs
therefore cannot offer any information just yet. We apologize for your
inconvenience.

Best Regards,
Sceptre Customer Support Group
post #84 of 951
Quote:
Originally Posted by Loren Kruse.
Well Sceptre responded to my questions about the TV with the following statement:
Tweaking the specs? I thought specs were specs, and weren't supposed to be tweaked. Personally I would rather have removable speakers, this will be used with 4 deftec 7000's or 7001's.
post #85 of 951
When I inquired about the product this was their response (i asked for detailed specs, specsheet, and/or user manual):
Quote:
We do not have the user manual nor the product yet.
Here's the specs from our website. http://www.sceptre.com/Products/LCD/...X37SV-Naga.htm

Best Regards,
Customer Service
post #86 of 951
Quote:
Originally Posted by lipcrkr
Attention 1080P lovers:
1080P means nothing on a crappy TV. Just look at the Westy 37", aweful. Just because it does 1080P doesn't mean it's automatically better than a 720P set. A good 1080P set will cost hundreds if not thousands more. Numbers on the card mean nothing, it's what's inside that determines the quality of the TV. And if you sit 9 or 10 ft away with a 50" or less screen it doesn't matter what it is, you can't tell. A good quality 720P set 50" and under would be sufficient for most people for years to come.
I might as well be reading Panasonic plasma panel advertising. The DLP industry is also trying their best (by all means possible) to convince the AVS rear projector forum members that their new (and not so true) "1080p" projectors are good enough too.
So the Westy LCD is not very good. So condemn ALL future 1920*1080 (interlaced or progressive) displays? Is logic left at the front door?

The fact is the Westinghouse was just a taste of superior 1080 products to come as LCD easily scales up to higher resolutions. Plasma and especially DLP do not.

The above post is typical of the many in the industry who stand to lose a portion of their livelihood should native 1920 * 1080 LCD displays gain a foothold. The 37" Westy was the Chinese making their statement to the world. Realize that no-one cannot stop improved useful technology from selling itself.

Either compete in the free marketplace or get the heck out of the way!

Note: This post written on a 23" 1920*1200 HP L2335 60fps progressive display.
post #87 of 951
Quote:
Originally Posted by leobag
When I inquired about the product this was their response (i asked for detailed specs, specsheet, and/or user manual):
That was their initial response with me also but when I dinged them that some of Spec's on their website didn't match what Costco had they sent me that reply.
post #88 of 951
Does anyone know about how much to expect to pay for shipping?

If one does decides not to keep the display, who eats the shipping cost?

The catch 22 situation is that anyone who wants to buy this at the discount price will have to pay unit cost + shipping + tax up front without anyone anywhere ever seeing the picture. Only one month later will we have the real facts.
This is not way to do business!

The solution is that Costco needs to have a display unit in each store durning the week of the sale. Costco members are an upscale group and need to make an informed, prudent decision before making the commitment, rather than a month after the sale.
post #89 of 951
Thread Starter 
You can return it to costco local store and the shipping cost will be refunded, too. It is simple as that.


Quote:
Originally Posted by reincarnate
Does anyone know about how much to expect to pay for shipping?

If one does decides not to keep the display, who eats the shipping cost?

The catch 22 situation is that anyone who wants to buy this at the discount price will have to pay unit cost + shipping + tax up front without anyone anywhere ever seeing the picture. Only one month later will we have the real facts.
This is not way to do business!

The solution is that Costco needs to have a display unit in each store durning the week of the sale. Costco members are an upscale group and need to make an informed, prudent decision before making the commitment, rather than a month after the sale.
post #90 of 951
Although I am 5 hours from a Costco...I consider this just to good of a buy to pass up and I'll be ordering one...if the spec's stay the same and another product doesn't peek my interest....


If it is not to my liking then just call me a day tripper to Costco to return it;)


I really can't see Costco putting out crappy stuff with a special promotion like this and end up with a zillion people returinging them. It isn't in Costco or Sceptre best interest...
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