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post #301 of 991
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Originally Posted by pappy97 View Post

My issue with recent CSI is too much of the personal story of the CSI'ers. I liked it when eps were self-contained and were 100% focused on the case, not Grissom and Sara, or Catherine Willows and her child.

And for the self-contained thing, I hate the miniature-killer crap. It was too much of a deviation from the standard CSI outline.

Wow, the things you don't like about CSI are the things I don't think they do enough of. I need more story about the main characters, otherwise they are not characters, just interchangeable components that it wouldn't matter who was doing the job. I also loved the continuing story of the miniature killer, story arcs are what this show needed to become something better and I for one believed it worked.
post #302 of 991
One of my favorite episodes was last season where the secondary characters led by Hodges teamed up to try and solve the Miniature Killer mystery themselves. Of course it didn't hurt that Liz Vassey got more air time as well. I've had a major crush on her for quite some time, so the more air time she gets, the better.
post #303 of 991
That episode was horrible. The actor from Without a Trace sucks....I couldn't understand him...he mumbles too much. I hope CSi hasn't jumped the shark.
post #304 of 991
I didn't care for the crossover episode(s). I watch both CSI & Without a Trace regularly but I found the attempt to bring the shows together felt forced and unnatural. I hope don't make this a practice.
post #305 of 991
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Originally Posted by gillcup View Post

I didn't care for the crossover episode(s). I watch both CSI & Without a Trace regularly but I found the attempt to bring the shows together felt forced and unnatural. I hope don't make this a practice.

I agree, not only did I have a bit of trouble following who did what to who during the CSI portion, the whole idea that Grissom would take the remains/evidence all the way to NY to examine/test them seemed like a real stretch of the imagination. As far as crossovers go, I thought it was pretty poor job.

The semi-crossover that launched CSI:Miami was done much better, even the NY/Miami one was better and NBC's Crossing Jordan/Las Vegas crossovers were probably the best I can think of in recent memory.
post #306 of 991
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Originally Posted by nashvillecat View Post

And Warrick's relationship/marriage seems to have gone to the wayside.

It's weird. They announced he was married in a throwaway sentence. Then they announced he was splitting up in a throwaway sentence (in the episode with the blacked out restaurant.)

I haven't seen the crossover episode yet. But, so far, the season has been pretty bad.
post #307 of 991
I agree that the crossover wasn't great, but it wasn't all bad. I think the WAT portion left a little to be desired, but the CSI portion wasn't bad.

BUT, my wife didn't get into the show enough during CSI to even bother watching WAT.... Maybe that says it all right there?
post #308 of 991
BTW, I did pick out John Hawkes from A Perfect Storm as soon as he said something.
http://www.imdb.com/name/nm0370035/

That's the only thing I recognize him from.
post #309 of 991
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Originally Posted by SVonhof View Post

BTW, I did pick out John Hawkes from A Perfect Storm as soon as he said something.
http://www.imdb.com/name/nm0370035/

That's the only thing I recognize him from.

Umm, I take it you've never seen Deadwood, eh?

Art
post #310 of 991
Okay, we all knew Sarah was leaving. But I think there could have been a better show produced for this. If Gil is supposed to be a very shard, and he is also Sarah's boss, and, oh yeh, he and Sarah are "an item", is he not also "blind"> He should have seen this burn-out coming and should have taken steps to help her. Sarah also has a history of getting in trouble with booze (I think). Another inconsistency I seen last night was that when Sarah said she wanted to work on the case, Gil said that Catherine would be her lead on this. Not once did Sarah ever discuss the case with Catherine, only that young "twinky" girl who I cannot stand. Gil was also going to ask Echley(sp) about her being involved in the case. We don't see Echlay(speling) at all last night.

Doesn't make sense to me...

Another observation; is Warick leaving the show? He gets like no air time lately.

Maybe Sarah wasn't a stand-out character, but I think that CSI is good because of the synergy of its characters - Her and Grissom showing us their life outside of work. She will be missed...

nc
post #311 of 991
I liked her because she didn't look like a "hot chick" straight out of Central Casting intended for prime-time eye candy. Television still thinks you can put glasses on a model, give her some smart things to say and the audience will buy it.
post #312 of 991
I know the episode was focused on Sara's swan song....but that little girl was downright scary!
post #313 of 991
I think the writers went on strike early.
post #314 of 991
that little girl was great in her roll,give her another future episode .
post #315 of 991
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Originally Posted by gobuffs View Post

I think the writers went on strike early.

Like at the beginning of the season?
post #316 of 991
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Originally Posted by nashvillecat View Post

Another observation; is Warick leaving the show? He gets like no air time lately.

I sure hope not as he is one of my faves, but I wouldn't be surprised if it has something to do with his recent run-ins with TMZ. The show may be distancing themselves from him in case they do have to let him go.
post #317 of 991
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Originally Posted by nashvillecat View Post

only that young "twinky" girl who I cannot stand.

Talking about Ronnie, the new "carmel-colored" assistant with the well-shaped tight V-neck sweater, who seems to be the new Barbie in town?

Agreed. Very unprofessional. Definite eye candy, however.

Sort of like what "Las Vegas" did when they lost Nikki Cox. They needed something new for the audience to look at and installed the character of Piper (externally, the hotel concierge, aka "official #1 hotel slut") who also seems to be the new Barbie on that show, a sidekick for Sam.

Personally, I had a fairly tough time getting through the first hour of the crossover episodes, but at least my favorite CSI team was in there. A bit tough to keep track of who, exactly, this Wicker guy really was, who were his wives/kids/victims, and what this was really all about. But the second hour was truly very very wordy and boring... and even more difficult to understand who they were chasing, where, why, which old victim was found buried in the dirt, etc., etc. And talk about under-acting and falsely emoting...

I do not normally watch W.A. T. and apparently for good reason.
post #318 of 991
I liked the campy "Halloween" EP quite a bit, but the crossover ep('s) were really draggy. I actually thought the farewell to Sara ep was done pretty well myself. Sorry to see her go.


ron
post #319 of 991
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Originally Posted by AtogMuncher View Post

Wow, the things you don't like about CSI are the things I don't think they do enough of. I need more story about the main characters, otherwise they are not characters, just interchangeable components that it wouldn't matter who was doing the job. I also loved the continuing story of the miniature killer, story arcs are what this show needed to become something better and I for one believed it worked.

Interesting. Whether you like it or not, if you get more of you want, the show will die.

Look at it like two ends of a spectrum

Forensics Drama------------------------------------------------------Regular Drama

What made CSI so immensely popular in the beginning was that it was 100% forensics drama. Then CBS milked this and created a couple of new shows, NY and Miami. In fact these shows did prove that there were interchangeable components.

But people (casual TV viewers) got tired of the CSI and they slowly they have moved away from 100% forensics drama and perhaps today could be characterized as 75% forensics, 25% regular drama. They also threw in story-arcs. All in an attempt to keep ratings up.

This has probably kept the show from totally tanking (Cancellation) as of now, but the more it moves towards 50% forensics 50% regular drama the more it alienates the original fans of the show, the people who watched it for self-contained forensics. The people who wanted a show like those Discovery Channel shows "Forensics Files", etc., but a bit more interesting.

Without hardcore fans, all you'll have left are casual tv viewers. And all it takes is placing a juggernaut (AI, Dancing w/ the Stars) in the same timeslot to deliver the death blow.
post #320 of 991
Couldn't help contrasting the splashy colorful opening of this week's NYC CSI with the bland grayish early episodes. Last night covered the death of a groom before his wedding, plus a continuation about Mac's (Gary Sinise) mysterious 3:33 phone calls involving a 3-D puzzle of NYC buildings. Seemed like lots of fast-paced color shots, akin to CSI Miami. A welcome appearance. Now if they'd only dump that monotonous drum-beat 'music' track when the lab folks do their analysis thing. -- John
post #321 of 991
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Originally Posted by pappy97 View Post

But people (casual TV viewers) got tired of the CSI and they slowly they have moved away from 100% forensics drama and perhaps today could be characterized as 75% forensics, 25% regular drama. They also threw in story-arcs. All in an attempt to keep ratings up.

This has probably kept the show from totally tanking (Cancellation) as of now, but the more it moves towards 50% forensics 50% regular drama the more it alienates the original fans of the show, the people who watched it for self-contained forensics. The people who wanted a show like those Discovery Channel shows "Forensics Files", etc., but a bit more interesting.

Without hardcore fans, all you'll have left are casual tv viewers. And all it takes is placing a juggernaut (AI, Dancing w/ the Stars) in the same timeslot to deliver the death blow.

What show are you talking about? CSI:LV was #2, CSI:M was #8, and CSI:NY was #16 last week. CSI:LV is now routinely rating higher than Grey's, its once juggernaut time slot competitor.
post #322 of 991
I thought last night's episode was terrific! Very best in a long time. I especially like the female "lab rats" when they get an opportunity to be onscreen.

Liz Vassey (Wendy Simms) is very cute and perky, and I find her very entertaining (especially Hodges' name for her character in his board game). She looks a bit like Marg Helgenberger's daughter facially, and they're both actually quite thin (I once stood next to Marg at an airport baggage carousel and couldn't believe how thin she was in person).

And I also like Sheeri Rappaport (Mandy Webster). Bright and nerdy, and very attractive.

And although she wasn't onscreen last night, Jessica Lucas (Ronnie Lake) is certainly a "vivacious" and "enthusiastic" new addition to the cast, who hopefully will get some more air time:

http://bp2.blogger.com/_xM0sPLtKXMM/...-s8cast_01.jpg

http://bp3.blogger.com/_xM0sPLtKXMM/...-s8cast_02.jpg

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NOTE: sorry for the URL's above, but the Forum's software doesn't seem to prompt for "visible text" any longer. You can only enter the URL! I've submitted a bug report.
post #323 of 991
I loved the "Clumsy, yet buxom DNA tech" comment under Wendy's game piece. You really can't tell from the clothes she wears on the show, but Liz Vassey has quite a body on her.
post #324 of 991
I only got 10 minutes into this episode before I deleted it. Hopefully the next episode will return to normal.
post #325 of 991
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NOTE: sorry for the URL's above, but the Forum's software doesn't seem to prompt for "visible text" any longer. You can only enter the URL! I've submitted a bug report.

I've noticed that too, I thought it was just me ...
post #326 of 991
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Originally Posted by Tom Imp View Post

I loved the "Clumsy, yet buxom DNA tech" comment under Wendy's game piece. You really can't tell from the clothes she wears on the show, but Liz Vassey has quite a body on her.

As soon as she saw her piece's name and confronted Hodges about it, we all immediately looked closer at her to see if it was true. But it's so dark in the lab, and her clothes were dark as well, that it really wasn't obvious.

Certainly nothing like the profile shots we had of Jessica Lucas (Ronnie) the week before, with her running around that old movie studio with Sara, in the V-neck form fitting sweater (with lots of carefully staged profile shots) and frantically hyper-ventilating in apparent jeopardy.

As the three JPG's show (URL's in my earlier post), Ronnie is certainly "ample" and the producers are obviously playing that up. Her character seems a bit more ditzy than the rest of the CSI techs (kind of like a typical female in a slasher movie) and because of the sweater I can't give her serious respect like the other lab rats.

But she's certainly a welcome occasional cast addition. I'll be watching for more of her.
post #327 of 991
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Originally Posted by DSperber View Post

As soon as she saw her piece's name and confronted Hodges about it, we all immediately looked closer at her to see if it was true. But it's so dark in the lab, and her clothes were dark as well, that it really wasn't obvious.






post #328 of 991
^^^^^^ No dark lab clothes here!

Hodges was right.
post #329 of 991
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I've noticed that too, I thought it was just me ...

Nope... turns out there is a new technique to be followed. I got the instructions as a response to my question posted over in the "Forum Operations Center" forum.

I'd never seen the new instructions publicized, but I suppose I must have missed it when the new software went in a while back.

Anyway, just to demonstrate that it can still be done using this post, if you look at this post you will get the following details:

Type out your post.
Go back and HIGHLIGHT the word(s) you want to be a link.
Click the add url button and put in the URL.
When you save it will update the highlighted word(s) to be the link.


Note the "visible text link" for the words "this post" above.
post #330 of 991
This is a little late, but maybe there's a new crossover/spin-off show in the making where Sara Sidle from CSI meets up with Jason Gideon from Criminal Minds and they wander the country in search of themselves and solving crimes along the way!
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