the definitive Grafik Eye master thread!! - Page 38

Does anyone know of a motorized drapery/curtain system thats compatible with the 3106?... I now that Lutron sells theirs and I read Makita may work as well... any others?

SoulMan - I have installed a 3106 and a Makita Drapery system in my theater room. However, I operate the Makita directly using its IR control. I see little if any advantage of controlling the drapes through the Grafik Eye. I use a central RF/IR control system to control everything and have the macros timed internally to coordinate the drapes opening with the light dimming control settings. The Makita is a reliable unit and comes with IR control and clock timer control.

Jedi,

Whats the central RF/IR Control System you are using?..

...Universal Remote Control, I use MX-850 with MRF-300. Programming is done on personal computer. URC has much newer models out there and available, now.

I am really interested in getting one of these but so far Lutron has been much less then helpful with trying to give them money. I talked to the "Grafik Eye tech dept" and they basically said it might work it might not we have no idea. I sent them an e-mail with more detailed info and it has gone unaswered, great support. Any way I figure I will get much better help out of people that use it and really know something. My main concern is LED rope light dimming.

Zone 1) 2 incandescent lights at 75w each

Zone 2) 5 incandescent lights at 75w each

Zone 3) LED Rope light total of 60w. This is a link to the rope light I have which says it is dimmable ROPE LIGHT . The rope light is currently controlled by a Leviton 6633-PLA slide dimmer Dimmer Spec. It has small locator light on it when the switch is off, when you turn the switch off the rope light would come on very dim. I turned the locator light off (has a switch for it) and then it worked perfect. So the LED rope light does seem to dim fine on a standard dimmer.

Zone 4) This needs to be a simple on/off to switch an outlet on and off. Plugged into the outlet is a transformer that powers a LED Light engine for a star ceiling

The PELV Terminal on my GE 3106 looks different compared to the newer models and the pics I have seen. It seems to take a specifc connection (harness) rather than the screw in bare wires. What type of PELV Connection (harness) is needed for this specific terminal..

Thanks..

Hey guys,

Im getting close to needing a Grafik Eye installed and have a couple of questions.

I'd like to have 4 zones...

1. Pot lights for around my soffit.
2. Pot lights for above the screen.
3. Rope lighting for above the soffit.
4. And one for sconces (not sure if I'll actually install them).

My room is about 12X12... Do you think sconces would be necessary, or will the pot lights be enough lighting??

So now Im needing to buy a 3 or 4 zone Grafik Eye and I need to find where to buy these things. Is there a web site that most of you purchase them from?? If so, which website?? All the links on the #1 post give me the dreaded 404 error.

Thanks!

In my case a short in one of the zones destroyed my grafik eye (GRX-3006).

I understand some models have some protection, but I'm looking for source to repair mine. Lutron was unable to help.

SoulMan - the white nylon mini-plug equipped with tiny wire connection screw clamps has been removed and is missing from this photo. It is supplied with the 3106 and any other Lutron GRX network devices. Suggest you call Lutron tech support and have them send you a couple.

Thanks Jedi..

I called Lutron Support this past Saturday and was told that the missing connector is called a "Phoenix Connector". The Tech. had one, and it was shipped out the same day. It was also mentioned that this particular connector is common at Electrical Supply stores as well.

This is just my opinion, but depending on the size of the pot lights you might can bypass the scones due to the size of the room. Another factor would be if the pots where installed in the ceiling near the soffit or under the soffit. Ceiling install would make the lighting brighter due to height so I guess placement is a factor.

I purchased my GE on Ebay, but it was missing the Phoenix Connector but all zones have been tested individually and manual programming seem to work.

Thanks for your input. I think pot lights will be used and not sconces. But I'd still like a 4 zone Grafik Eye. I almost got one on eBay, but someone outbid me at the last minute (I hate eBay!!). I noticed on a previous link in this thread that said "since 2009, Lutron no longer supplies Grafik Eye's to shopping cart web sites." Is this true?? Where the heck can I buy one from??

Is the Lutron Grafik Eye GRX MR-3 the equivalent to the 3103??

Reason I'm asking is because I found one on eBay that comes with a NTGRX-4S. I'm itching to land one of these on eBay... I'm at the point in my build where I need a GE... BAD!!

Anyone know how the Grafik Eye Entrance Control - Ntgrx-1s actually works? Specifically, could I replace it with a two-way switch? I can't stand not being able to swipe my hand up the wall to turn the lights on, and instead hunting to find a button.

That would be a no ct,

While the 1s is connected to the GE by regular electrical cable vs. the PELV that other modules use, it is still a module.

Hello I have bought a bunch of stuff from Hanks Electric, You can find them here

They have great prices and have been really good to work with, and nope no affiliation

Jeff

The first post of this thread is pretty old. I have a Theater I am helping a friend with and he has a 4 gang box ready for a lutron unit. He has 5 zones so I assume getting a 6 Zone grafik eye would be recommended. However, there are a few different units and we are not sure what the right model is to get. The application is just to dim the lights via RF while in the theater.

The remote will be a URC of somekind TBD. Would it be more reasonable to buy 4 of URC's light dimmers to be used instead of a whole grafik eye?

Any comments are much appreciated.

For the latest and greatest check out the Grafik Eye QS line.
http://www.lutron.com/Products/Singl.../Overview.aspx

If you plan to use an RF remote and/or you do not have line of site for an IR signal you will need to run a wire from one of the remotes IR extender/repeater emitter port to the QS for remote control.

The GE 3000 series would work as well...

Hey Guys,

Manage to get a GRS-4006 online, not quite sure what it is, can't find any info on it either. The unit seems in mint condition, but there doesn't seem to be a module on the left hand side for the other half of the zones. Any idea why that is? Is that normal? And does anyone know what a GRS is?

Can I use one of these to send the ir signal to the 3103 unit stored in my closet? Or do I need the complete ir repeater unit?

http://www.smarthome.com/8130W/Buffa...-Sensor/p.aspx

Thanks Ron

Here are some pics of the controller. The seller had mentioned GRS, when I opened the unit, it says GRX-4006 which I still can't seem to find info.

Let me know what you guys think, I took a picture of the side that doesn't seem to have any terminals.

It appears to be almost identical to a GRX-4100, so perhaps it is an older model?
Have a look here:
http://www.lutron.com/TechnicalDocum...ry/032165a.pdf

Oh yeah, as for the missing connectors for zones 2, 4, 6 I can't
explain that. Do you have a photo from the side looking into
the unit where the terminal blocks are missing?

Thanks Misko, I've attached more pictures here, it seems like it's made like that, nothing was ripped off. Funny enough, I originally bought from the same guy an 8 Zone controller and was identical, so I returned it and he swapped it with this one, but this one seems to have no terminals either on the same side...I'm clueless now and wondering if I should return it.

Is the Belden 9740 rated for 600V? Do I need 2 runs of this wire for the hookup of the NTGRX-4S keypad or will 1 run suffice?
Thanks

Very strange. Not sure what to tell you. I suppose you could call Lutron, they have great support and ask them what it is since it appears to have a legit Lutron sticker with a model number that can't be found...

Almost looks like a 2 zone unit in a 6 zone box, but the 2 zone PCB
is smaller.

Sorry, not much help I'm afraid.

OK, I have contacted Lutron in Louisville KY to get information on installing a 3 room system. They gave me a phone number to call a rep in Owensboro KY, I talked to him and he gave me 3 phone numbers of three sales places that are kind of close. He said you will probably end up talking with me again. I called the number that was suggested for a lighting place out of Paducah KY. I gave them the number of lights and a copy of the floor plan. I simply told them I need a list of components and prices.

This is the strangest company I've ever dealt with. I talked with the Paducah company last Wednesday and then called them back last Friday. They stated that they forwarded my email and plans to the guy in Owensboro. Then today I got a call asking what the wattage of my can lights will be because a sales rep was in the Paducah store.

I'm going to post a copy of the email I sent them and maybe someone may be kind enough to help me out. I told them maximum of 50 watts per can light and 100 watt max on pendants. Oh and this will be used with the GE Ethernet control interface, was told that if I need two GEs that one interface would work for both control units?


I'll try to break this down into rooms.

Theater- 8 Can Lights, Rope lighting on the ceiling 50' max, 3 lights connected together 100/ea watt max(like a strip of directional lights that will be on the floor pointed up towards the screen), 4 walkway/step lights in the steps.

Entry- 5 can lights

Media/Bar- 9 cans, 3 Pendants

As far as switches and pads I really dont know. I will need to talk with you all about how many and their locations. There will not be any in the actual theater. The wall in the entry room by the theater door is the intended location for the Grafik Eye unless it goes into the closet in the entry room.

I'll give you a call this afternoon.

Thanks
Alex

I want to control 6 lighting zones in my home theater and bar with Graffik eye 3106.
One of the zone has 6 Cree CR6 LED lights. I think each light uses 10.5 watts each.

Does 3106 support dimming Cree CR6 LED lights or do I have to add an additional part or upgrade to a newer QS model of Graffik eye.

thanks

One of the advantages of the QS seems to be its time clock - if I understand correctly, we could link several QSes around the house and when we are away our lights could go up and down on a time clock for security.

However from reading the manual it seems that the time clock is always enabled, and there isn't a simple way to disable it - eg a "we're here / we're on vacation" choice. It looks as though we would have to go through a complicated reprogramming sequence when we go away.

Am I understanding this correctly?