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post #121 of 567
Altitude (Denver's RSN) will carry the first round of the draft on Saturday.
post #122 of 567
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Originally Posted by kevin j
I hope HDNET getting the rights to NHL games'll be enough reason for Comcast to wake up and sign a deal with mr Cuban.....if that doesn't i fear nothing ever will.
umm, nothing will. InHD and HDNet are mortal enemies.
post #123 of 567
Unbelieveable, damn you Wuertz, no wonder hockey will not be restored in Chicago, he is still keeping his policy of not televising Blackhawks home games. It's a huge shame when the RSN is ComcastSportsNet, who does home games in HD. You should all hate him too, he was a big reason on why the lockout lasted so long and last year's season was cancelled. This old fat drunk needs to get the hell out of m city

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Originally Posted by cjv123
umm, nothing will. InHD and HDNet are mortal enemies.
Some Cable companies carry both
post #124 of 567
So with HDnet, we are talking about live games, right? Are the MLS games broadcasts live?
post #125 of 567
Has anyone seen any Center Ice(or is it Centre Ice up north? ;) ) pricing yet? Any HD rumors? In the past I think D* started billing for CI in August. As I have said in other posts I don't expect a freebee but I wonder if they will lower the $ at all. D* site doesnt say, nor does the NHL's. Also is pricing up to the carriers or the NHL? Thanks
post #126 of 567
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Originally Posted by Da Truth
Unbelieveable, damn you Wuertz, no wonder hockey will not be restored in Chicago, he is still keeping his policy of not televising Blackhawks home games. It's a huge shame when the RSN is ComcastSportsNet, who does home games in HD. You should all hate him too, he was a big reason on why the lockout lasted so long and last year's season was cancelled. This old fat drunk needs to get the hell out of m city
Bill Wirtz....hands down, the worst owner in the NHL!...you have my sympathy, Da Truth...
post #127 of 567
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Originally Posted by Da Truth
Some Cable companies carry both
comcast doesn't- that was the ?
post #128 of 567
NHL Needs ESPN

Marc Ganis, president of the sports business consulting firm Sportscorp Ltd., said the NHL simply needs to take the best offer it can wrangle out of ESPN.
“They have to go to ESPN,†Ganis told the Los Angeles Times. “There really is not much of a choice here, not necessarily because of the money they’ll make off the game broadcasts, but rather the promotional exposure that ESPN will offer across a broad spectrum of sports fans.’’

http://www.mercurynews.com/mld/mercu...s/12220470.htm
post #129 of 567
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Originally Posted by Da Truth
Unbelieveable, damn you Wuertz, no wonder hockey will not be restored in Chicago, he is still keeping his policy of not televising Blackhawks home games. It's a huge shame when the RSN is ComcastSportsNet, who does home games in HD. You should all hate him too, he was a big reason on why the lockout lasted so long and last year's season was cancelled. This old fat drunk needs to get the hell out of m city


Bill Wirtz....hands down, the worst owner in the NHL!...you have my sympathy, Da Truth...
He needs to die and soon,there's just no two ways about it! What a backward thinking,selfish,moronic thing to dp.How on earth do you try to increase your fan base by NOT letting people see your product? I'm not a marketing genius,but wtf,I can get that right! We have a cable outlet that will do home games in HD,yet we here in Chicago,can never get to see that,hockey in HD.Even when the Hawks were on HDnet once or twice a couple years ago it was blacked out here of course. I can't belive that this lockout resolution didn't state that all teams must be made available to as much television coverage as possible. This is the new NHL? They need to win me back by showcasing thier product,not by making it a big f---ing secret. They used to say Chicago had only 20,000 or so fans in the whole city and they went to the games all the time,I think thats pushing it. Total BS Mr Wirtz. May you be infested with fleas and have arms too short to scratch!!
post #130 of 567
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Originally Posted by redvette
Bill Wirtz....hands down, the worst owner in the NHL!...
Harold Ballard beats all, or are we only discussing living owners?
post #131 of 567
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Originally Posted by Ross in Toronto
Harold Ballard beats all, or are we only discussing living owners?
Neither team has won a Stanley Cup in decades. By Ballard took a once proud and Stanley Cup winning team and flushed it. Much to my dismay.
post #132 of 567
Will be announced at Noon Eastern time today, Wednesday July 27th.

Go to http://www.nhl.com/schedules/index.html
post #133 of 567
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Originally Posted by pkwjr
NHL Needs ESPN

Marc Ganis, president of the sports business consulting firm Sportscorp Ltd., said the NHL simply needs to take the best offer it can wrangle out of ESPN.
“They have to go to ESPN,†Ganis told the Los Angeles Times. “There really is not much of a choice here, not necessarily because of the money they’ll make off the game broadcasts, but rather the promotional exposure that ESPN will offer across a broad spectrum of sports fans.’’

http://www.mercurynews.com/mld/mercu...s/12220470.htm
what a crock of bull... ESPN barely covered the NHL when they announced the lockout. The weekly wrap ups shown on Sunday morning's ESPN 10:30 show, a 2 hour show mind you, did not have 1 second devoted to the NHL.

I say the best options are USA Network (they don't show any major sports yet are a major cable network, and HD games can be shown on Universal HD - same company), TNT (sharing with the NBA) or SpikeTV (men's channel that is looking to add sports programming).
post #134 of 567
ESPN will ride the football wave until mid-January before basketball picks up. By launching ESPN2HD their HD fanbase will only broaden as the get more cable companies to sign on. One of the things the strike did was ensured that they didn't need the NHL to be successful. Also, Outdoor Life Network is in the mix, what is there stance? I know they are comcast, but is this really the NHL's best option?
post #135 of 567
The NHL needs to make itself a marketable commodity before it has any leverage in TV negotiations. To make it such it needs to be SEEN. ESPN or heck even ESPN2 gives it the legitimacy it wouldn't get anywhere else. Will it be treated like a ugly stepchild on ESPN? Yes it probably will but the NHL needs to earn a place at the table. Sign w/ESPN2 and HDNet and improve your game to the point where casual fans will want to watch and then go from there. All the other options smell like Sports Channel America to me.
post #136 of 567
I completely agree, ESPN markets what is puts on the air better than anyone. They will run sportscenter segments left and right to promote exposure. If the NHL gets a worse deal from ESPN then from one of these other channels, i think you still go with ESPN, unless the moentary difference is that drastic. If the NHL wants the fans back they need a big brand name supporter. On a side note, why does Gary Betteman still have a job?
post #137 of 567
The NHL schedule has been released. Hopefully HDnet will release their's soon. It looks like every team is in action the first night October 5th.
post #138 of 567
How would the NHL, played indoors, fit with the Outdoor Life Network? :)

Why does Gary Bettman still have a job? Could be because, love him or hate him, he held firm and got done exactly what the owners needed and wanted to be done. He did his job. Although you could argue that part of the problem was him not doing his job well for many years prior.

Hockey fans in small markets like here in the Pittsburgh area are genuinely excited about the new CBA because it gives a real hope to be able to compete on a more level playing field (getting Crosby is just icing on that cake). There will be no backlash here like there may be in some big markets where fans may be disgruntled about losing a bunch of star players and their teams not being able to just spend their way in to the playoffs (NY Rangers notwithstanding, of course.) I'm sure Bettman is more hated in those places.
post #139 of 567
According to a report in the Wall Street Journal, Comcast is studying repositioning its Outdoor Life Network to compete with ESPN. Attributing its information to unnamed people familiar with Comcast’s plans, The Journal said the company is in negotiations with the linchpins of sports programming - the professional leagues. Comcast is talking with the National Football League, the National Hockey League and is looking at NASCAR auto racing, The Journal said.

http://money.cnn.com/2005/07/27/tech...n=money_latest
post #140 of 567
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Originally Posted by spoonman27
The NHL schedule has been released. Hopefully HDnet will release their's soon. It looks like every team is in action the first night October 5th.

Huh?? :confused:

I don't think HDnet has a contract with the NHL yet for this upcoming season.
post #141 of 567
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Originally Posted by blitzen102
Huh?? :confused:

I don't think HDnet has a contract with the NHL yet for this upcoming season.
I don't believe they technically do, but Mark Cuban posted on another thread that HDNet WOULD be covering the NHL this year.
post #142 of 567
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Originally Posted by pkwjr
According to a report in the Wall Street Journal, Comcast is studying repositioning its Outdoor Life Network to compete with ESPN. Attributing its information to unnamed people familiar with Comcast’s plans, The Journal said the company is in negotiations with the linchpins of sports programming - the professional leagues. Comcast is talking with the National Football League, the National Hockey League and is looking at NASCAR auto racing, The Journal said.

http://money.cnn.com/2005/07/27/tech...n=money_latest

But as Mark Shapiro of ESPN said, this change can't happen overnight. Could they really revamp the network and get the NHL by the Oct. 5 start date?
post #143 of 567
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Originally Posted by hondo21
There will be no backlash here like there may be in some big markets where fans may be disgruntled about losing a bunch of star players and their teams not being able to just spend their way in to the playoffs (NY Rangers notwithstanding, of course.) I'm sure Bettman is more hated in those places.
No, I don't think so.

I'm an Islander fan in New York. Though in NY, the Islanders' horrible stadium deal doesn't put them up with the large market teams' revenue.

I don't think that most large market teams fans think like you are suggesting. I think most people understand that a system where all teams are competing more or less on equal footing is good for the sport. Sure, the Rangers can't outspend everyone anymore, but I don't think most Ranger fans are upset over the new system.
post #144 of 567
Forget ESPN! I would rather have a national network (TNT, USA or Spike) make the NHL their top priority rather than ESPN treating the NHL worse the National Spelling Bee.
Look at Nascar. They havn't needed ESPN & they are going great.
post #145 of 567
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Originally Posted by hockeykid
Forget ESPN! I would rather have a national network (TNT, USA or Spike) make the NHL their top priority rather than ESPN treating the NHL worse the National Spelling Bee.
Look at Nascar. They havn't needed ESPN & they are going great.
NASCAR has a product that people seem to want to watch. I'm no racing fan by any stretch but I know a well marketed sport when I see it. NASCAR and the NHL were at one point considered regional attractions. As a hockey fanatic it pains me to say this but guess which one is still considered regional in 2005? Im sure ESPN would make room on their schedule for NASCAR if the opportunity presented itself.
post #146 of 567
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Originally Posted by hondo21
How would the NHL, played indoors, fit with the Outdoor Life Network? :)

Why does Gary Bettman still have a job? Could be because, love him or hate him, he held firm and got done exactly what the owners needed and wanted to be done. He did his job. Although you could argue that part of the problem was him not doing his job well for many years prior.

Hockey fans in small markets like here in the Pittsburgh area are genuinely excited about the new CBA because it gives a real hope to be able to compete on a more level playing field (getting Crosby is just icing on that cake). There will be no backlash here like there may be in some big markets where fans may be disgruntled about losing a bunch of star players and their teams not being able to just spend their way in to the playoffs (NY Rangers notwithstanding, of course.) I'm sure Bettman is more hated in those places.

hondo, this town is buzzing - I've never seen people so excited about the Pens in JULY! Usually around this time it's always "xx days to Camp Cowher..."
post #147 of 567
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Originally Posted by eaglesnflyers
NASCAR has a product that people seem to want to watch. I'm no racing fan by any stretch but I know a well marketed sport when I see it. NASCAR and the NHL were at one point considered regional attractions. As a hockey fanatic it pains me to say this but guess which one is still considered regional in 2005? Im sure ESPN would make room on their schedule for NASCAR if the opportunity presented itself.
ESPN would drop MLB if they had a shot at Nascar.

I don't think it's all just marketing, it's being able to relate...everybody with a car can pretend they're Tony Stewart or Junior. It's easier to get into...the rules aren't that complicated and it's easy to pick up. Hockey on the other hand confuses people with all the lines, can't see the puck, never played it as a kid. That's why NHL needs to go to a major national HD carrier that penetrates like ESPN - a lot of the flaws in televised hockey disappear in HD - you can see the puck, the play develop, full neutral zone, etc. Don't put it on HDNet...I don't have HDNet!!! Or Universal or TNT for that matter. (stupid low bandwidth comcast system)
post #148 of 567
Am i the only person here who rarely, and i mean RARELY watches ESPN?

The only time i find myself watching now is if the Patriots are on a Sunday night game, with them not carrying the NHL, i wonder if i really need E* anymore, as TSN on BEV shows those Sunday night games.. The only thing i would miss if i cancelled would be HDnet.

I guess if your a Baseball fan you watch ESPN regularly, obviously i`m not a Baseball fan, they showed none of the US mens soccer games in the "Gold Cup" tournament the last few weeks, (which we won by the way) How many of you knew that? I know most don't care, but ESPN is getting a real low grade from me on many accounts.

My other concern is a regional concern regarding the Sabres, as Empire Sports Network recently folded, and while MSG has decided to show 95% of their games, i also cannot get MSG on E* as they have decided i need to Fox Sports Pittsburgh?? Which really Dumbfounds me as i live in Rochester, NY.

So i was hoping this rumour of Center Ice being free was accurate, if not. i may still NEED to buy it if i`m going to watch Sabres games this year.At least i`m all set up to receive CBC HNIC in HD this year and Toronto, Montreal and Ottawa play the Sabres often :)
post #149 of 567
I watch ESPN during NFL season (Sunday/Monday countdown, NFL Primetime and the Sunday night game)...otherwise if there's no NHL, not really. Don't care for Baseball or NBA which they seem to focus on during Sportscenter, and the anchors just try too hard to be cool anyway which inevitably annoys me.

I did watch some of the Outdoor games a few weeks ago...I love watching dogs launch themselves 25ft off a dock after a tennis ball into a pond.
post #150 of 567
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Originally Posted by bigrushhead
they showed none of the US mens soccer games in the "Gold Cup" tournament the last few weeks, (which we won by the way) How many of you knew that?
I knew that but I don't get all high and mighty about it. Selling soccer to Americans via the Gold Cup is like selling the NFL based on the pre-season. 120 minutes of goalless soccer in a final against Panama is just about the least compelling content I can imagine. The WC Qualifiers are far more interesting and competitive.
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