NHL done deal - Page 6  

Apparently, Goodnow is now out of a job:

http://www.tsn.ca/nhl/news_story.asp?id=131693

How "inexpensive" is it to get set up with what I assume is BEV? I have relatives in Canada - Do I necessarily need to find a broker? Do I have a line of sight to the satellite(s) in Utah?

Michael

I believe this discussion violates the rules of this forum.

Why would it violate the rules? It has nothing to do with hacking or theft.

Violate the rules? :p No, lol, BEV talk has been taking place on this forum for years, there are many "Old Timers" on here who have BEV including myself obviously.

I also sell and install them here in Western NY....Give Phil at Kusatellites a call, he will steer you right.

I`m double posting, cause the "edit " feature dosnt always seem to work right since they changed the software.

Anyways, i forgot to respond to the cost question, an HD system(Receiver and dish) is down to $300.00 American $...As far as reception in Utah, yes you can receive it there no problem, as long as you have a clear line of sight, ie, no trees, buildings or anything solid...Might want to check to make sure both birds (91 and 82) beam to Utah though, as the HD content is on the 82 bird.

Tell the NHL what you think about the work stoppage and that you want games in HD!!

www3.rresults.com/nhlresearch/index.cgi?fwd=y

It's a survey I received as a fan or because we had season tix.

Tell the NHL we want it in HD!

100% Agree...the NHL needs to be seen in HD!! Comcast, Spike or whatever in SD is just a stupid option IMHO! What I would love to see is Center Ice with HD, now that's something I would gladly pay for ;)

What are the chances ESPN or NBC would even broadcast the NHL in HD? The only channel we know for sure that would be broacasting the NHL in HD is HDNet.

I'll agree with this, but go farther. Hockey is far more dynamic and chaotic than any of the 'major' sports, and that is a barrier to the 'uninformed' fan. The big sports in the US tend to have a very clear structure that makes it very easy to take in the action at a glance - possession is formalized, 'action' only takes place at certain times, LOTS of dead time for talking-heads to fill in what just happened. The NBA is probably closest to the NHL, but it's still WAY more deliberate and structured than hockey. I think when many folks look at a hockey game, they simply see a bunch of guys running around with no rhyme or reason, and can't relate to it.

I agree that the league needs as much HD coverage as possible, but I'm not sure that ESPN is in their best interest right now for a few reasons.
- the ESPN audience has shown that they really have little to no interest in hockey. Coming back to ESPN will give the loudmouth 'analyst' folks on Pardon the Interruption or Around the Horn the opportunity to revel in how low the ratings are.
- in my experience, folks that are passionate about hockey are not necessarily 'sports fans' in the general sense. My wife is an absolute hockey nut (plays inline hockey 3x/week, watched NCAA's with me etc) and couldn't care less about any other sport. Would NEVER turn on ESPN unless it was for a hockey game. I think that the NHL could easily build a stronger niche market on a '2nd tier' carrier than they get via ESPN if they handled it properly.

Having said that, if ESPN is the only way to get any reasonable HD penetration, it may be a necessary evil.

Okay - now a question for Denver folks. I'm assuming that Altitude will have all the Avs home games in HD, so it's time for me to finally get into the HD game. I currently have Comcast basic cable, and was planning just to upgrade to the appropriate package. Is this the right approach if my primary concern is just the Avs games, or would looking at sattelite make some sense?

I know in Boston you do not need extended basic in order to get digital cable and the lowest tier digital classic includes those Briuins home HD games.

I am not sure what theyt do in DEtroit.

Making Center Ice FREE for the 0506 season would be a good idea. They could sort of charge more for ads on the games as EVERY game would be seen on national TV.

It’s no secret that the rest of the cable world would love to see a competitor for ESPN. And who’s better suited for the role than Comcast?
ESPN has a reputation for playing hardball in carriage talks with distributors. Comcast is to the distribution side of the cable industry what ESPN is to the programming side. What if Comcast were to play hardball in return, being able to say, ‘’We don’t need you at this price,†and not blinking at the last minute and paying up as Cox did the last time around? Especially if Comcast had its own all-sports network in the making?
The first piece of the puzzle to achieve all-sports legitimacy would be to acquire the NHL’s national rights. Indications are that such a deal is in place and waiting to be announced this week, once the NHL finishes anointing Sidney Crosby as its savior during this weekend’s draft festivities in Ottawa.

http://www.boston.com/sports/other_s..._have_company/

The way I learned was when there was a NHL expansion team in my area they had quick 30sec or so tutorials and demonstrations of various rules on TV between the commercials and the game. The broadcast networks in the US should do the same. this made me learn the game fairly quickly and may win over a few more people. unfamilar with the game.

I don't know about the rest of the NHL...but here in Pittsburgh we're hoping he's our ticket to a new arena and keeping the Pens in town.

Although we're not sure about seeing Sidney play in HD, he will be on Leno Thursday night. You can catch that in HD...

I'll take another crack at it...
When HDnet broadcasted games, where they live?

Yes.

graci

Ok finaly a thread I can participate in. I just hope that the NHL gets broadcasted in HD where im at. I get dishnetwork but I wont have any reason to get their HD pack until someone announces that they will broadcast NHL games that has an HD channel. (I can get NBC in HD for the handfull of games they will show). My only question is will HDNet carry the games in HD? In reading the 6 pages of this thread to get "caught up" i heard some speculation that they might carry some, and if they are going to carry games in HD is HDNet available on DishNetwork? Also the idea of a "free" NHL CI package intrigues me as well.~ColAvsFan

I have heard, unofficially, that HDNet has a deal in place for this season. No details have been announced yet, of course.

The NHL TV Deal is in sensitive negotiations according to Bettman. Plans were to release some information very soon but Bettman had to travel to Russia to deal with the IIHF probems so the TV deal has been pushed back a few dayys.

I checked out HDNets pages and I found this:

HDNet Sports will put you in the front row with the most comprehensive coverage of hockey, soccer, college football, college basketball, motorsports, and more. Each sports production is featured in full 1080i resolution and 16x9 format, including:

(bullet) Hard-hitting NHL action.

-Looks like im gonna get Dish's HD pak pretty quick. ~ ColAvsFan

Man, as hard as it is to admit this... I feel for you Avs fans. Losing Peter the Great sucks. I loved watching him play my Wings. Now because of the totally asinine scheduling, I get to see Peter like once every three years.

At least you guys locked up Hejduk. Kariya playing for the damn Preds... ugh.

Anyway... good luck this season.. to you and all the NHL fans.

Regs,
Jeff... Wings fan... but a HOCKEY fan FIRST

If the Avs fans get 'really lucky' the local sports network, Altitude, broadcasts home Pepsi Center games in HD. So far only Comcast has picked it up (last year for basketball). I can't recall, but maybe someone can comment, E* may also have done some HD Nuggets games, not sure since I'm not a huge basketball fan. There have been no announcements this year about who might carry the HD version. D* has done some MLB HD games from the local sports nets, so who knows. I would assume once D* has the new sats on line and the MPEG4 in place they would likely pick up that HD feed on a regular basis. Colorado HD locals should be in the second wave of locals whenever that occurs Denver is the 18th largest market and has minimal OTA available so they should be a strong candidate for the second wave of networks.

As for Peter the great, I will sure miss the opportunity to see him in person on a regular basis, but I lived in Philly for 15 years and am still a huge Flyers fan along with the Avs, so thanks to NHLCI I will be seeing him a lot on TV, and still will be cheering for him. Just wish the Philly Comcast HD feed was also available on D*.

I was searching on the Tivo this evening and I forgot I had the Detroit .vs. Colorado game from 3/26/97, rebroadcast on Fox Sports-Detroit back in November.

You know, the one where Roy, Lemiux and the rest of the Avs got pummelled.

That's a site! Go Wings!! Even Crawford was crying like a little baby!

On the flip side, I have searched high and low, and could NOT locate any TV schedule for the NHL.

I have DTV, and I am seriously considering getting the NHLCI package. I was talking this over with my brother just the other day, how much backlash people have towards the NHL for the waste of the 2004/2005 season. You think that the NHL would bend over backwards to win back fans. It'll be really interesting to see what happens with the start of the season, and how the fans really react.

No pricing avail on the DTV site, and no idea whether or not any games will be carried in HD. I've yet to see any hockey in HD. Although looking forward since having HD since 11/2004.

NHL's strongest ally is ESPN. Although, I was reading just in the Arizona Republic, that Fox Sports Arizona DTV 649, has Darren Pang for the announcer. That at least should be pretty cool.

Time will tell.

Between the rule changes and player trades it's a whole new game. More wide open and I am going to make a bet we will see high scoring or at least higher scoring games being the norm. Scores likes 8-5, 7-6, etc.

The trades and such have made it that there will be no rivalries from the past that matter anymore and GOOD! as several of them were more annoying and about immature fighting than hockey. All the teams and players have been changed so much it will make it more unpredictable for a while at least.

If you haven't seen hockey in HD yet you are in for a treat. The consensus seems to be that HD may do more justice to hockey than other sports. It really looks great especially on HD net. The 16x9 widescreen is a perfect fit since the rink is rectangular.

No argument on the rule changes being for the better. Other than the idiotic addition of shootouts so that every game has "winner". What a crock.

And the new scheduling is a complete and utter joke. Little to no opposite Conference games. Playing your own division teams EIGHT times a year. Yay... what fun to watch Nashville and Sh*t-cago and Columbus for 24 games. Joy.

And the elimination of rivalries is one of the biggest and most asinine mistakes Bettman has made to date. So much for maintaining any history of the game. Original 6 matchups are practically eliminated. When will we see Bettman's head on a pike? Not soon enough for me, that's for sure.

We'll see what the backlash is like for the NHL. I've been an NHLCI sub since like 2001 or so. I don't plan on cancelling it unless the game gets to be more of a joke than it was in 03-04. Tug and mug is NOT hockey.

Later,
Jeff

I agree about the schedule being weak. I am not sure if this is just because of the Olympics this season or a permanent thing.

I won't take that bet, but I sincerely hope that you're wrong. What a travesty that would be, all in the name of "least common denominator" American attitudes that emphasize offense over defense. Boooo!!!!

On this one, I am certain you are wrong. True rivalries (Wings/Avalanche notwithstanding) are rarely about the players on the roster, and even more rarely about "immature" anything. And, if you really believe that fighting in hockey is always a result of immaturity, you should probably learn more about the game.

That said, it appears that the league schedulers have decided with you that historical rivalries are unimportant. I believe this abandonment of traditional rivalries for the so-called "divisional" rivalries will hurt the league more than it helps. As a Detroit fan, I am dismayed to see a 2005-06 schedule that doesn't include the Leafs, Bruins, or Habs even once, while we're expected to endure eight games each against Columbus and Nashville. Talk about pissing on tradition!

I will be excited as always for the beginning of the NHL season to get here, and it will probably still be better than most other things on television, but I'm afraid that these "improvements" that Bettman have instituted will take some of my enjoyment of the game away. I just hope it doesn't reduce my enjoyment to the point of apathy. We shall see.