Paradigm Owners Thread - Page 375

Yeah I've had at least four different promises from Paradigm to the dealer on delivery dates and none have come to pass. I really can't get too upset with the dealer though as lately he as offered to let me take his display 60's home until mine show up. So far I have taken a pass on the offer, I really would feel bad if I put a scratch or ding in his display unit, and it's kind of hard for him to make a buck if he has no speakers for customers to hear.

i waited three months for my v5 100's , cc690 , sub15 , all in rosenut. made many calls . they are that far behind . my 2 cEnt it was well worth the wait , period !

bert

k.c.

thanks , i dId . hope all is well ? your set up is smashing . a friend of mine and i decieded on the final designs of the av rack . tv and center chanel piece . hope to start fabricating this week .

bert

Hey guys im in the market for a new receiver to power my millenias. I sold off my HK avr 247 (upgrade bug). I am asking you guys for help cause ive heard not so good things with yamaha and denon matched with paradigm. Any truth? I was looking at the HK avr 354, Marantz 6003 or Denon 2309ci. Any thoughts or any others I should be looking at? I have Millenia 200's and 20 for the Center. Main use would be 40%movies 30%music and 30% gaming. Thanks and I appreciate all input.

Hi Guys, I am thinking about to buying the following system.

Yamaha RVX3900
Studio 100's
CC690
Sa15r
Sa15r30's

A couple of questions......

I have heard the Yamaha receiver paired up to the monitor 11's and it sounded great. Is there any real benefit upgrading to the studio series??

Due to the wife factor, I have to install in ceiling speakers for centre rears and rears. Will the ones I have picked match up well??

For your info the rear wall of my lounge room opens into a moderate sized entrance way. I plan to put the directional in ceiling SA15R30's in the hallway and direct them to the lounge room so to ensure that the speakers are behind the listening area. Is this a good idea??

And finally, if I get the studio 100's I wont be able to afford the Studio sub 15. It about about $5300 here in OZ, I was thinking about getting am SVS PB13ultra which I can get for $3000. Bloody import taxes.....

Anyway and info would help.

I can really only comment on the sub. If the SVS and Paradigm sub were the exact same cost, I would probably still go with the SVS. And since it is $2300AU cheaper, I would REALLY go for it over the paradigm sub.

I would also give the Onkyo 806 a look, it is in that same price range as the denon.

are you talking us dollars?

My dealer offered to lend me his floor models as well, and I took him up on his offer. My credit card was charged the day of purchase...

Talking Australian dollars, there is only one imported in OZ that does SVS and they price them as they see fit, which to be pair isn't that bad. Paradigm also only has one importer and studio 100's retail for $4400 AUS.

It's not perfect but there are no other options.

Thanks,

Hows the 806 compare to the others mentioned? From what ive seen so far it seems a good fit. Ill have to read up on it. Thanks again

Did he charge you for the loaners?

Jason

Hey folks, after a little more auditioning this week, I bought a pair of Monitor 9's and the CC-290. They sounded really good at the dealer. But after bringing them home, they seem to be lacking in bass considerably. They had a lot more bass in the dealer's showroom.

I am in a small apartment with living room 12x15 and open to the kitchen on one end. If I crank them up, I can hear a little more bass, but then the sound level is too loud. I am running them through the new Onkyo TX-SR607 in Direct Mode. I tried running Audyssey but it turned my speaker levels down -10,-11. So I turned it back off.

I had some old-school speakers with 15" woofers that had no problem with bass in my apartment. So I'm not sure what the problem is with the Monitor 9's? I have attached pics of my apartment layout. The speakers are standing on either side of the TV.

You might want to consider buying a dedicated sub. I'm not too familiar with the Monitor line but I've got Studio's on the way and I STILL bought a high quality sub for 2.1/5.1 listening. Not only will you get louder bass than the old school's but you'll get cleaner bass. It will also free up the towers to do what they do best.

I've got the Monitor 9 v.5's hooked up to a Marantz 5003 and my layout is sort of similar to yours...open living room and kitchen... With my setup they put out plenty of bass. I've had the crossover set as low as 40 hz and the 9's pump out plenty of bass even down there.

I would guess it's something in your receiver setup. Do you have the "Subwoofer" setting set to No, and the front speakers set to "Large"?

Yes, the subwoofer setting is disabled in the receiver. There isn't an option to specify speaker size in the receiver. I have crossover frequency options(Full Band, 40Hz-100Hz, 120Hz, 150Hz, 200Hz).

I have the speakers set to "full band". Isn't that correct? Would it be beneficial to bi-wire the speakers to my Onkyo?

Well you can't really expect the Monitor 9's to have the same sort of Bass as a speaker with 15" drivers!

I have a Monitor 11 based setup in my lounge and these speakers are very sensitive to the proximity of the wall behind. You can effectively "tune" how much bass they output by varying the distnce to wall. I currently have mine about 7.5" from the wall as I found that to give me the right balance.

I also find they like a bit more room on each side than you have from the pics of your setup.

As for your amp setting, full range is the right setting when in direct mode.

Can some of you guys comment on the these speakers?

Paradigm Monitor 7 v.5 2-1/2-Way

How good are the 7's? How is the performance? I need to make a decision quick. 6ave is having a name your price on them.

They're Great! unless they aren't designed for what your looking to do, so in that case their crap.

Seriously though, they are decent speakers, but whats the level of quality your looking for, also if you haven't listened to them then I wouldn't name a price till you've heard first. They are good for smaller rooms and but there are many factors to consider.

listen to them first, there is always another deal around the corner.

Ouch!


I had been waiting for a couple years to be in the possition to buy a new setup and when the v.5's were available I was at the dealer within a few weeks. I placed my order at the end of January for nearly the same kit as you (Studio 100's front, CC-690 center, Studio 20's rear and Sub 15 subwoofer -- all in Cherry) and had them home within 10 days! Perhaps Rosenut is a lot harder to get. I went with Cherry because I had a set of v.2 60's in Cherry and like the finish.

Waiting for toys for months is no fun at all!


Brian

How often does Paradigm refresh their versions? Is it once a year?

And are the version 6's out already?

I just came back from the dealer and listen to the Titans and didn't really like them. Wanted to listen to the Studio 20s but they couldn't get the blu-ray player working and I had to leave. Will return and listen to everything they have (besides Paradigm) but he is willing to give me 33% off the MSRP for the display model.

Good deal?

not once a year. Paradigm/Amthem are one of the few companies that actualy do R&D and improve. you probaly wont see studio v.6 for another 3 years


33% off the studio 20's

I see.

But yeah the 33% is off the floor model. He said it was the last one they have. Are they good? I'm going to listen to them on Monday.

What center goes with the 20's?

another 20. or cc590

[quote=Raptorsys;16593124]Ouch

Waiting for toys for months is no fun at all!

you are righT . but worth the wait thank god for sand cars , and i am still finishing the room , but it is nice to have them . can'tt wait !

bert

I thought the 7's were "okay" but that was about it. I was in the market for a pair of floor standers to replace my Monitor 3's. My local shop had the 7's and 11's in stock and on the floor. They allowed me to take the 7's home for a few days to try out. I did A/B, side by side comparisons with the 7's and my 3's. My impressions were that the 7's had a moderately better mid-range...the sound stage in that range was wider and I felt the singers, etc. were more widely spaced on the "stage" with better separation. It was not a huge difference but noticeable. The bass however was quite noticeably lacking on the 7's compared to my 3's. That is due to the 3's having a 7 1/2" bass driver compared to the 5 1/2"s in the 7's. I could not justify spending the money for the 7's as they were not much better at all than the 3's...They no longer offer the 3's in their Monitor lineup...
I wound up buying the 11's and could not be happier...well I could be if my speakers were all Studio's but that is not in my budget as of yet lol...The 11's and the 9's as well are well worth the money if you are thinking of going that route. The 7's are a very nice speaker just lacking some of the bass in my opinion.

I didn't like the 7's at all. They sounded really thin. I wouldn't buy them unless space was limited in your room.

I'm thinking I should've went the 11's too. Although my Monitor 9's sound really good for jazz and can play very loud, they just don't rock. (This is when I'm using "Direct Mode" on my receiver.) You still need a subwoofer for most music, especially rock. If I adjust the Bass to +4 and turn Audyssey ON, I start to get a little more bass and acceptable full sound. But I really would like to be able to use "Direct Mode" to hear the music "as recorded". On a positive note, I must say that the 9's have a very smooth sound to them, and I am hearing details in my jazz CD's that I never heard before.

What is everyone's opinion on using Direct Mode vs adjusting Bass/Treble on a receiver?

I never touch bass or treble adjustments. Direct is just source untouched which is perfect in my opinion. I find some people put preference over reference, play it as the recording was meant to be played.

By using audessey you are hearing it as intended. When you use direct you are hearing your room's interpretation of how it was recorded/played.