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post #1141 of 28218
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Originally Posted by rynberg View Post

Have you looked at Paradigm's Premier division? The T-50 or J-18C would work.

I hadn't seen those, but in looking at them I'm not sold. I don't think the look of the J-series fits and the T-series might work but it seems to be only available in black, and it doesn't look very wide either. also, I was hoping to be able to find a cherry finish to blend in better with the speakers.
post #1142 of 28218
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Originally Posted by rynberg View Post

No offense, but I think it would be an utter waste to spend the money for the CC-570 just to wedge it in a cabinet 10" off the floor. You should either get a proper center channel stand and place it in front of the cabinet or fabricate a shelf above the TV for the speaker. Just my 2 cents....

Utter waste is quite strong. It may not be the most ideal set-up but it will still sound very good.
post #1143 of 28218
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Originally Posted by Sendero View Post

I hadn't seen those, but in looking at them I'm not sold. I don't think the look of the J-series fits and the T-series might work but it seems to be only available in black, and it doesn't look very wide either. also, I was hoping to be able to find a cherry finish to blend in better with the speakers.

Check out racksandstands.com the have a very good selection a decent prices. Not the cheapest but not the highest either.
post #1144 of 28218
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Originally Posted by WOLVERNOLE View Post

dvdguru-
Thanks for taking the time to do the measurement ! Hmmm...OK, yea, I have a glass shelf that this monster of a CC would go on...and without any "padding" it would probably vibrate like crazy. So I hear you saying that they have an optional relatively flat "rubber bumper feet" that might kill vibration without adding more than...what 1/4 " or so ???

Remember, the CC570 is rear ported, so if you shove it form-fitting into a cabinet, you're going to have a ton of vibrations (which may or may not be noticed, depending on the cushion underneath) as well as a distorted/muffled low end. Whether it's muffled enough to be nearly inaudible from the front, I don't know. I'm just pointing out the design of the CC570 warrants a more open space.
post #1145 of 28218
My setup is as follows:

Studio 40 mains
CC-470 Center
SA-25s in walls for Surround and Backs
Seismic 10 Sub

Denon 3805 Receiver in a 2500 cu ft room.

Currently only running 5.1 waiting for 2nd pair of 25s to come in.

Opinions requested on 3805 driving this system vs addition of a seperate 7 channel amp and using the 3805 for processing only or perhaps less than 7 channel amp for some of the channels ( 2 channel for mains? ) 80/20 HT/Music
post #1146 of 28218
I also am thinking of puting my cc-570 into a 36Hx55wx24d custom cabinet. I plan on using auralex mopads under the speaker and some sort of insulation on the sides and back of the speaker - will that help control distorton/muffledness on the low end and vibration. My other fix for the problem would be a 72" high center speaker stand to be placed behind the cabinet and i don't believe that is doable.

any input would be appreciated.
post #1147 of 28218
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Originally Posted by miltimj View Post

Remember, the CC570 is rear ported, so if you shove it form-fitting into a cabinet, you're going to have a ton of vibrations (which may or may not be noticed, depending on the cushion underneath) as well as a distorted/muffled low end. Whether it's muffled enough to be nearly inaudible from the front, I don't know. I'm just pointing out the design of the CC570 warrants a more open space.

Good point. I wouldn't want it pressed against a back wall. Open glass shelves would be the way to go.
post #1148 of 28218
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Originally Posted by miltimj View Post

Remember, the CC570 is rear ported, so if you shove it form-fitting into a cabinet, you're going to have a ton of vibrations (which may or may not be noticed, depending on the cushion underneath) as well as a distorted/muffled low end. Whether it's muffled enough to be nearly inaudible from the front, I don't know. I'm just pointing out the design of the CC570 warrants a more open space.

Yea, good points.
I have plenty of side space, and plenty of space to the rear...it is HEIGHT of that shelf that is a bummer. It is not like I am sliding it into a shoebox "container" but rather, a short but open on sides and rear...shelf. So you really think this is trouble if I set on rubber "mat"-type bottom over glass shelf??? Hmmm....
post #1149 of 28218
i am in the same situation in a bello stand open
sides and front and rear on a glass shelf so far so
good have not noticed anything wrong with the
sound i did pull the 570 just pass the edge of the
front of the glass to keep reflections down.
post #1150 of 28218
How does the CC470 compare to the CC570?
post #1151 of 28218
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Originally Posted by Rahl View Post

How does the CC470 compare to the CC570?

Rahl-

Go to the website paradigm.com

They have pics and comparisons . Briefly the cc470 is a two-way and the cc570 is a true three-way.
post #1152 of 28218
The cc470 has a front firing port. It is located in the space that is occuped by the midrange driver on the 570. I'm not sure if it also has a port on the back.

Regards,

Charlie
post #1153 of 28218
Thanks guys, but I was really wanting to know how they compare to each other in sound quality.

Everyone on here says the 370 can sound boxy, and I wanted to know if the 470 compared to the 570 has any issues like that.

I'm sorry for not clarifying better.

Is there going to be a significant change in quality that warrants the $200 price difference?
post #1154 of 28218
when i was demoing the paradigm's i liked
the sound of the 570 over the 470 it is
definitly worth doing a comparison.
post #1155 of 28218
Hello Paradigm Owners!

I'm a newbie ... looking to buy some Paradigm speakers to build my HT. I'm just wondering whether any of you has purchased any thing, speakers in particular, from hometheaterbythesea website. They seems to have good price on the Paradigm speakers comparing to the local Authorized Dealer. If you did, how was your experience with their products and customer services? BTW, I'm from Dallas, Texas USA. I'd really appreciate any recomendations or pointers on where to get a good deal on these speakers.

Thank you all in advance,
post #1156 of 28218
all star audio video in houston very knowledgable and did me right
post #1157 of 28218
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Originally Posted by AV_enthu View Post

Hello Paradigm Owners!

I'm a newbie ... looking to buy some Paradigm speakers to build my HT. I'm just wondering whether any of you has purchased any thing, speakers in particular, from hometheaterbythesea website. They seems to have good price on the Paradigm speakers comparing to the local Authorized Dealer. If you did, how was your experience with their products and customer services? BTW, I'm from Dallas, Texas USA. I'd really appreciate any recomendations or pointers on where to get a good deal on these speakers.

Thank you all in advance,


Home Theater By The Sea is a rip off. They sell you something they don't have in stock and then after several weeks try to move you to something else. Sometimes they do have it in stock but they are not a authorized dealer. I called Paradigm about them on a AVM-30 and they said that they have thrown many warning by his way but ultimately they can't do anything but to him because he buy's the product from other people and resales it. I have comfirmed I did ask if I had a warranty issue would they cover it and they said if they found out it came form him no...
post #1158 of 28218
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Originally Posted by AV_enthu View Post

Hello Paradigm Owners!

I'm a newbie ... looking to buy some Paradigm speakers to build my HT. I'm just wondering whether any of you has purchased any thing, speakers in particular, from hometheaterbythesea website. They seems to have good price on the Paradigm speakers comparing to the local Authorized Dealer. If you did, how was your experience with their products and customer services? BTW, I'm from Dallas, Texas USA. I'd really appreciate any recomendations or pointers on where to get a good deal on these speakers.

Thank you all in advance,

There are (2) authorized dealers in Dallas that I know about. One is Audio Concepts (214-360-9520) and is located at Preston/Forest or Preston/Royal (can't remember). They only have Studio 60s and a few Para subs to listen to (but sell the entire line). They seem to offer very little or no discount on the speakers. The second is Kellum (214-526-1717). They have Monitor and Studios to demo (but sell the entire line too). They discount MSRP about 5%.

One other "unauthorized" Internet dealer is http://www.hifitrader.com/. I have not dealt with them but was looking into it. They offer discounts around 18%. My goal is to buy locally from an authorized dealer if I can get them down on the price a bit.
post #1159 of 28218
That HiFiTrader.com says that they sale "Certified Mint" products.

Most of them are not actually brand new. Some are, but I just looked at the Monitor 11s they have, and they have the little "100% Certified Mint" emblem on the purchase page.

And also, if you look, those speakers are only $100 cheaper (after shipping) than if you were to buy them from an authorized dealer.
post #1160 of 28218
Pleased to be able to join this group after recently purchasing my Paradigm setup:

Monitor 7's Front L/R
CC370 Center
ADP 370's X4
Velodyne CHT-10 w Def Tech SuperCube III
Pioneer Elite VSX-74TXVi
Pioneer Elite DV-45A
Denon 2910

I also use Polk speakers, but love the Paradigm sound as well. What has been your experience of a "break-in" period with Paradigms?
post #1161 of 28218
nelson,, if you mind ,,,, could you pls let me know how much did you spend on all 5 paradigm??

thx. k
post #1162 of 28218
Hello Tigerkn,

My complete Paradigm set which includes (4) ADP 370's, (2) Monitor 7's and (1) CC370 came to a total of 2528.00. (including tax) Purchased from 6th Avenue Electronics in NJ.
post #1163 of 28218
I have Paradigm Reference Studio 80's with a CC450. Side surrounds are ADP 470's and rear surrounds are Reference Studio 20's. Im using a Marantz SR9600 7.1 THX with a Sony Ruby projector on a 110" Stewart 130 screen. I'm also using a HPZ558 media center and a Richard Grey power conditioner. Finally a MX3000 remote to control it all My sub is a Paradigm PS1200. I also have a Yamaha DSP1 from my old system which I may or may not incorporate. Does any one see any reason to use this DSP1?????
post #1164 of 28218
You system looks really nice. I would recommend you add an external 200W amp for the Studio 80's. I'm sure they would benefit from the added juice! Look for something used if you have to. Maybe in the Rotel/B&K/Acurus/Parasound realm. Another option would be a pair of 200W monoblocks from Outlaw. One of the guys over in the Outlaw forum has a pair of Studio 60s with the older M-200 amps.

Good Luck,

Charlie
post #1165 of 28218
I am guessing you are talking about 60s not 80s. I agree with brubacca if it was my system I would go with a 200 watt. amp. I think that Sherbourn is the best choice. I have used several amps and for ME the Sherbourn was the best.
post #1166 of 28218
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Originally Posted by clrv View Post

I am guessing you are talking about 60s not 80s. I agree with brubacca if it was my system I would go with a 200 watt. amp. I think that Sherbourn is the best choice. I have used several amps and for ME the Sherbourn was the best.

No, they're probably talking about the no-longer-manufactured Studio 80s.

As long as the specifications are very similar, Sherbourn vs some other amp doesn't really matter (IMO). I'm curious what you heard differently among the amps, assuming very similar specs? (Ugh.. I suppose I'm starting something up in the wrong thread..)
post #1167 of 28218
"No, they're probably talking about the no-longer-manufactured Studio 80s"
My Mistake

You know this will start a holy war, but if you want to PM me or start I new thread I will be more than happy to go over my findings.
post #1168 of 28218
Fair enough.. We can reserve that for the Amps forum.. and the many threads that go into such topics I suppose.
post #1169 of 28218
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Originally Posted by AV_enthu View Post

Hello Paradigm Owners!

I'm a newbie ... looking to buy some Paradigm speakers to build my HT. I'm just wondering whether any of you has purchased any thing, speakers in particular, from hometheaterbythesea website. They seems to have good price on the Paradigm speakers comparing to the local Authorized Dealer. If you did, how was your experience with their products and customer services? BTW, I'm from Dallas, Texas USA. I'd really appreciate any recomendations or pointers on where to get a good deal on these speakers.

Thank you all in advance,

Just my .02 for a newbie.

If you plan to stay in the hobby for the long haul find a local brick and mortar and develop a relationship with a sales person that treats you with respect. This doesn't mean you'll get a discount on your first purchase. If you do great, if not so what, it will payoff in the long run.

Treat the salesperson with the same respect that you expect from them. If the store is crowded and you're just looking, tell him/her you're just looking so they can help someone else. Ask a question or two and move on, don't lock them down for an hour when you know you're not there to buy that day.

If the store is empty spend a few hours with him/her and pick their brain. Get to know them a bit. Listen and learn. Most good salesmen know that if you're serious about this hobby you're going to sink some cash into it. If you can make your first purchase a small one do so and be willing to pay full price. Wait a month and go back and get something else small. What you want to establish is that you're a repeat customer. In between purchases drop in and ask what's new? When you're ready for the big purchase stop by a week or two in advance and say, next week I plan to get a 5.1 set up, I'm thinking about the Pdigms or whatever. If he tries to show you some stuff tell him you have to run but you'll stop back in when you're ready to buy. When you come back have cash in hand. Prices will start dropping, stuff will get thrown in for free (speaker wire, cables) in home demo's will be allowed. All kinds of doors open up.

A couple of key points. This type of salesperson is not easy to find, you will have to shop around. When you do find him don't insult him with the "I found it cheaper on the internet line."

Hope this helps.

YMMV
post #1170 of 28218
They definitely are studio 80's about 6 years old.
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