Paradigm Owners Thread - Page 501

At 5ft. you should try just 5.1 with two 590's first. You may find that you won't need the two back speakers at all.

If you are absolutely set on getting the two back speakers and had to decide without actually trying and comparing direct vs dipoles then with 5ft distance and book case/cabinets I would go with direct firing speakers.

this was probably lost in the surround talk, so i guess it's worth a repost.

I tend to agree.for the room that I will be using the system in,buying a set of 590's for the rear might be a waste of money and then maybe not!!I'd hate to spend the money on them and not get the full effect even though I have audessy on my reciever to maybe make some corrections.

maybe for now I'll just put the extra money towards the 100's setup and continue to use the super Z's in the rear.I really dont want to loose my 7.1.
I may have to do some tweaking with the Z's to try to get them to keep up with the 590's.but for rears with HT should'nt be that bad.....right?

what do you or anyone thinks about keeping the super Z's for the rear or what other direct firing speaker to go with the rest of the paradigm system?they would need to be wall mounted!!

I can always get the 590's for rears later


thanks again for the input!!!

And if you only go with 5 channels you can bi-amp the 60s (or 100s).
The 8.9 will bi-amp but only if you sacrifice the back channels.

I don't know what your Z's are but I have Studio 20's for rears and ADP590's for sides and it sounds great.

dont think I havent thought about that already!!!

NHT SUPER Z's! I have them wall mounted.I looked at the 20's but dont think they can be wall mounted!!

I have a situation with the back wall that wont allow me to put shelf speakers or stands at lest for now!

I might just do what wnl recommended and just bi-amp the fronts and forget about the rears!!

I missed the fact that you already had rears, so I would lean even more towards just two ADP's for now, but that's just me. How far apart would the rears be from one another?

I wouldn't worry too much about your Z's matching or keeping up during movies since the limited content sent to them is mostly ambient, which IMHO makes it very difficult to hear any differences between different speakers.

You'll get more out of putting the $ towards 100's, especially if you listen to music.

bump for Kimwyn!!

no problem!!!I agree with you!
because of the rear book case/cabinets are about 15' apart.I have them pointing down towards the rear center of the room!if that makes any sense.

your right as for as what ambient sound comes out of the rears.I think I may just bi-amp the fronts and let the 590's do the rest on the sides!!

yep!!thats what I'm going to do.forget about 590's for the rear and just put the extra money towards some 100's,cc690 and a sub 15 with the PBK-1

thanks again!!!

I don't know if this will be any help but at least it gives you another bump.

When I was doing my auditioning I listened to the Klipsch (either rf62 or rf82) alongside various Monitor models and the Studio 20s. I have no idea how these compare to the S4.

While the Klipsch did have decent power and bass I couldn't get past how harsh and direct the horns seemed compared to all the paradigms. It had been quite a while since I listened to a set: my dad had a set of the corner horns in the 70s and they needed a very large space to mellow out -- he didn't have them long.

So if that is what you mean by weary I agree!
Doug

I listened to the Paradigm S2 compared to the Klipsch RF62. The listening room was far from perfect. Beyond the price difference that can color perception, there are efficiency issues and volume balance that effected the comparison. In general, I thought that the RF62 did a great job with rock music, but less so on Chopin piano and Blue Note jazz.

Without seeing a frequency response curve, my ears thought the Klipsch produced a brighter high end against the Paradigms, and as a larger box speaker, the lower end was also a bit more accentuated. The Paradigm S2's had a richer middle end, some might say more balanced, but that is is personal taste. I also think that that is the reason I prefer Paradigm, my older ears are not so set on the high end anymore. In the end, I thought the Klipsch did a good job holding their own against a much more expensive speaker, but I preferred the Paradigms.

I just posted the full story in this thread http://www.avsforum.com/avs-vb/showthread.php?t=1233355 but I figured this would be the best place to ask... I'm looking for Cherry S4 v1's, because mine were stolen and the rest of my 7.1 system is all Signature V1 speakers. If anyone has some mint speakers, (esspecially in the Calgary, Vancouver, or Victoria area) I'd likely be willing to pay enough to pay for an upgrade to new V2's (note though, that S4's are discontinued, the next closest speaker being S6's)... PM me if anyone's interested...

Does anyone have any recommendation for a TV stand for a 46 in or higher that would fit a CC-690 v.5 center speaker?

Good luck with that. I have a feeling you'll be looking for one that you can just set the speaker on top of and mount the tv to the wall. Or find a stand that has a rearmount where you can raise the tv up instead of mounting to the wall.

What do you think Monitor 11 (V5) in cherry a pair for 999? Good deal?

That's about the discounted
price for the v6 version.

That sounds like a big "no" then. Thanks Simpletheater.

I know. I'm hoping to avoid the wall mount option.

I'm looking for something like these type of stands where I can stick the CC-690 just below the top surface. I do see some stand out there...but they're 10 inches apart...just too tight and the back is block by some metal bar.

What about a Bello stand?

Thanks... I just visited their site and it has spec to their stands...I'll have to see if they have any stands with at least 11 inches clearance.

I ordered the Salamander Designs Synergy System using a single height module and a mount to get the panel higher than a Signature C5.

I haven't received it yet, so I can't confirm it will work. I expect to get it in another week or so.

Hmmmm......tough endevor!!I'm also looking at uprgrading to 100's with the CC690 from an older CC370.I havent found any stands that would fit but I do have the luxury of being able to modify my existing shelves but would like to have something a little newer!!

If I run across something I'll let you know!!

I second the motion on Salamander. You can configure it the way you want. A little pricey, but worth it.

I've had mine for 3 years and love it!

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look into the bdi arena series.

I don't think it's the height in as much as the width of the 690 that will be a problem. I think find a stand that you like. I think inevitably the 690 will be on top of a stand not in a cubby in the stand.

On a side note I had a similar issue ended up getting a local cabinet/furniture maker to make me a more or less clone of a standout designs model. Cost me less than half as much. It's solid beech except for the rear of the cabinet.

http://www.standoutdesigns.com/store...nsole-p180.htm

On my Salamander setup I have 3-20"x 20" lowers with a 5' 6" x 10" open above the 20s.

I currently have a 590 in that open space which has the same height as a 690. A 690 is on the way.

I am using a Whalen from best buy and it works very well for my 470. I am very familiar with the 690 and there is enough room for it

Stand at best buy

I guess my think with the Salamander is it's a great stand but a little pricy. You could save a bunch of money buy just rear mounting the tv to the stand or the wall and placing the speaker on top. That's essentially how that salamander is set up. I guess there's also the question of WAF.

This is a photo of the stand I had built. The tv is a 56" DL. the opening is 10" x 25.5". The entire thing is 70". Oh yeah and there are casters underneath totally hidden. I really really like the unit and it was <$700.

Chris,

As others' have echoed, I use a Salamander triple twenty with a 11" riser. I had a C5 in the riser and it fit perfectly. Seeing as the 690 is almost the same height, that would be an option, or get the triple twenty with the LCD pole for mounting and lay the center on top of that. I love the synergy series, lots of things you can customize.