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post #15091 of 28073
3/12/10 at 8:11am
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IMO you don't have enough room (between the seats and the back wall) for a rear speaker, assuming your diagram is accurate and to scale. The two surrounds you have should fill the entire surround field fine.

Thats what I thought. I would turn the room around long ways but because of the door and closet its not gonna work. I have the surrounds in the back corners facing the seating postion so I guess I will try to play around with the angle of them. Thanks for confirming it for me.
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post #15092 of 28073
3/12/10 at 8:51am
I was wondering if someone can help me with my DSP-3200. I just want to know what to put the settings at on the back of the subwoofer?? It has a degree setting and a hz setting which some people tell me to put at 80hz and some tell me 150hz.....so if someone could clear this up it would be greatly appreciated! Whats the degree setting for? digital signal process?? what do i set it at? 0 degrees or 180 degrees.....? thx
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post #15093 of 28073
3/12/10 at 9:25am
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Originally Posted by Stylz25 View Post

I was wondering if someone can help me with my DSP-3200. I just want to know what to put the settings at on the back of the subwoofer?? It has a degree setting and a hz setting which some people tell me to put at 80hz and some tell me 150hz.....so if someone could clear this up it would be greatly appreciated! Whats the degree setting for? digital signal process?? what do i set it at? 0 degrees or 180 degrees.....? thx

The Hz setting can be either, depending on your receiver crossover settings. If you have the crossover in the receiver set to 80 Hz, then it passes everything 80 and below to the sub. I would just keep it at 80 on the sub. The degree setting is for phase, it all depends on where you have your sub in your room. Try it at 0 degrees, listen to some music with bass, and then try it at 45 degrees, 90, 135, and 180. Whatever setting creates the best sounding bass at your listening position is the setting to keep it at.
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post #15094 of 28073
3/12/10 at 9:54am
You should have a bypass setting on the Hz control as well. If you receiver handles the crossover than set the sub control to bypass
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post #15095 of 28073
3/12/10 at 9:54am
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Originally Posted by 519audiofan View Post

You should have a bypass setting on the Hz control as well. If you receiver handles the crossover than set the sub control to bypass

Oh ok that makes sense I will do that! thx
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post #15096 of 28073
3/12/10 at 9:55am
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Originally Posted by Need4spdnb View Post

The Hz setting can be either, depending on your receiver crossover settings. If you have the crossover in the receiver set to 80 Hz, then it passes everything 80 and below to the sub. I would just keep it at 80 on the sub. The degree setting is for phase, it all depends on where you have your sub in your room. Try it at 0 degrees, listen to some music with bass, and then try it at 45 degrees, 90, 135, and 180. Whatever setting creates the best sounding bass at your listening position is the setting to keep it at.

Ok thanks so much I will try diff settings....but what does the degree setting really do anyways?
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post #15097 of 28073
3/12/10 at 10:36am
I found a good review of the new SE paradigms. I dont know if anybody posted it yet but it was very in depth.

http://www.avguide.com/review/paradi...fect-vision-86
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post #15098 of 28073
3/12/10 at 11:01am
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Originally Posted by mjpearce023 View Post

I found a good review of the new SE paradigms. I dont know if anybody posted it yet but it was very in depth.

http://www.avguide.com/review/paradi...fect-vision-86

heard them the other night. they're fantastic little speakers for the money. Almost identical to the studio 10's, just smaller and look cheaper.

if your not concerned about looks then there a steal. and its not like they look bad by any stretch of the imagination
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post #15099 of 28073
3/12/10 at 11:18am
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Originally Posted by Need4spdnb View Post

Seeing as they are free speakers, I would take them and use them no matter what. My only gripe with the 40's was their size, they sound phenomenal for the price, but when you factor in a stand (for fronts) they are the price of studio 60's, hence the reason we didn't sell very many. They may be slight overkill for rears, but I like overkill for everything. Overkill is a great way to subdue upgraditis.

I like overkill too
but this is what I like to hear!!just need to decide if I want to make the necessary modifications necessary to accomodate the 40's.he has the stands to go with them,but there's no way I can use them now!

and your right.they are big!!
how the old saying goes?.......bigger is better
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post #15100 of 28073
3/12/10 at 4:41pm
I just have to throw out some praise for Paradigm speakers and this awesome forum.

A few months ago i desperately wanted to make the jump from my many HTIB over the years to a "real" HT setup. I love watching movies and listening to music loud (probably 70/30 movies to music) but didn't think i could afford a setup that would blow me away, but oh was i wrong! Here's the 5.1 system that i ended up with:

Center: CC-290 v6
Fronts: Monitor 9s v6 (bi-amped)
Rears: Monitor Atoms v6
Sub: DSP-3400
AVR: Pioneer Elite 21TXH
Blu-Ray: (soon to come) either the Oppo 80 or 83!
I already had a Sony 60" XBR2 - a few years old now but still produces a beautiful picture

I went with the Atoms over higher priced rears to put that $ towards the sub and it was a wise decision. The speakers sound fantastic anyways, but the deep bass of the 3400 just makes the movie experience magical. I got a great price on the pioneer receiver and to my relatively untrained ears it does a great job pushing clean warm sound through the speakers, though they don't need much help

I'm a very picky, indecisive and cost conscious buyer and i wanna thank everyone in this thread because you all helped this newb put together a solid sound system.

It's crazy that i'm still reading these forums even though i have a great system in place. This stuff is so addictive and i cant help but continue to look for ways to tweak this and that to optimize my setup (or even add to it lol).

Sorry for my lack of detailed tech review but with some more time spent on these forums and in front of my speakers i'll hopefully be able to offer some sound input that will help you all as you have helped me.
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post #15101 of 28073
3/12/10 at 7:44pm
Hello everyone.
I need some advice badly. I am pretty well set on paradigm studio 60's. However, I am balking at the price. I have a choice of buying used studio 60's v.3 at a price I am willing to live with.

I've never heard the v.3's. Do they sound identical to the v.5's? Is it a good idea to buy them? Or should I start considering buying new Studio 20's V.5's instead of studio 60's?

The reason I am considering the studio 20's in the first place is because I live in a small place and I have a feeling they might be enough. I know I am rambling a bit but that's been my state of mind the last two weeks.

I will be mainly using the speakers for 50% movies and 50% music. I am looking to just buy the fronts for now and build up to a 5.1 system slowly.

Any input/advice/idea's much appreciated. Thanks in advance.
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post #15102 of 28073
3/13/10 at 12:13am
I currently own Studio 60s V3s and they sound phenomenal.

The 60 V5s are slightly better but they have smaller drivers and a smaller cabinet which , if you were tight on space, would be better for you.

BUT the difference between the two is marginal.

I was really looking at the V5s and after auditioning them was pretty set on buying them when I found a pair of V3s at a price I could not refuse. As luck would have it, and this is going to sound incredible, the person I bought the V3s from got a pair of V5s to replace them due to their size.

I got the chance to A/B them on the same equipment , same environment and the difference is very very minor.

If you are getting a deal on the V3s, do not pass them up.
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post #15103 of 28073
3/13/10 at 3:05am
Hi again,

I've decided to go with Anthem d2v+a5-a2 combination. I'm going to buy an a2 from hong kong followed by an a5 then complete it with d2v when i sell my current onkyo 3007. I was thinking to buy a Pioneer Sc-Lx90 but it was an overweight for baggage capacity.

I will probably add an emotiva erc-1 cd player for media source. I would like to hear further suggestions too.

I'm also wondering a2 will be sufficient for s100s? I'm a stereo fan so it's very important for me to get full performance from Studio100s and don't want to spend more money for an extra stereo pre and power amp.
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post #15104 of 28073
3/13/10 at 6:34am
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Originally Posted by 13ege View Post

I've decided to go with Anthem d2v+a5-a2 combination. I'm going to buy an a2 from hong kong followed by an a5 then complete it with d2v when i sell my current onkyo 3007. I was thinking to buy a Pioneer Sc-Lx90 but it was an overweight for baggage capacity.

I will probably add an emotiva erc-1 cd player for media source. I would like to hear further suggestions too.

I'm also wondering a2 will be sufficient for s100s? I'm a stereo fan so it's very important for me to get full performance from Studio100s and don't want to spend more money for an extra stereo pre and power amp.

Are you from Hong Kong? Just curious since you specifically referenced the location.

The A2 will be MORE than enough for the S100's. I'm very close to selling my S20's because my dealer is offering new S100's for $2,350. He's probably getting tired of me asking prices between the PVA 7, PVA8, unreleased Anthem A/V receivers, and the Pioneer Elite SC-27 (don't know why I have Pioneer while looking at Anthem, but always had an affinity for their products).
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post #15105 of 28073
3/13/10 at 6:36am
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Originally Posted by Yellasum View Post

Hello everyone.
I need some advice badly. I am pretty well set on paradigm studio 60's. However, I am balking at the price. I have a choice of buying used studio 60's v.3 at a price I am willing to live with.

I've never heard the v.3's. Do they sound identical to the v.5's? Is it a good idea to buy them? Or should I start considering buying new Studio 20's V.5's instead of studio 60's?

The reason I am considering the studio 20's in the first place is because I live in a small place and I have a feeling they might be enough. I know I am rambling a bit but that's been my state of mind the last two weeks.

I will be mainly using the speakers for 50% movies and 50% music. I am looking to just buy the fronts for now and build up to a 5.1 system slowly.

Any input/advice/idea's much appreciated. Thanks in advance.

If you are set on the Studio 60's, you may want to take a look at the new SE series. The SE3's are basically Studio 60's in a Monitor box (although it is real wood veneer). When I compared the two side by side it was tough to tell much of a difference. I just received my set this week and they sound awesome!!! I have the SE3's for the fronts, the SE center and SE1's for the rear. I was worried about the center channel being so small (small compared to other center channels in the studio line) but it just flat out kicks butt. I am truly impressed. The rest of the speakers are on the small side as well, so they should fit your needs as far as size goes (not being too big for your room).

If you are considering going with the V.3's due to price, look at the SE series. They have the new drivers of the V.5 series so you would't have to go backwards. Link to a recent review below.

http://www.avguide.com/review/paradi...fect-vision-86
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post #15106 of 28073
3/13/10 at 6:43am
Happiness is buying a pair of brand new Studio 20s and a 690, sorrow is having paid for them and then having to wait until next month to get them because they are on backorder from Paradigm! For those with a 690 version 5, is it flat on the bottom or is it curved? I am going to have to make a custom enclosure for it and will need to angle the center up about 10 or 15 degrees.
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post #15107 of 28073
3/13/10 at 7:25am
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Originally Posted by ravingndrooling View Post

Happiness is buying a pair of brand new Studio 20s and a 690, sorrow is having paid for them and then having to wait until next month to get them because they are on backorder from Paradigm! For those with a 690 version 5, is it flat on the bottom or is it curved? I am going to have to make a custom enclosure for it and will need to angle the center up about 10 or 15 degrees.


It is curved on the bottom but it comes with feet that allow it to sit flat. You shouldn't have a problem.
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post #15108 of 28073
3/13/10 at 8:09am
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Originally Posted by weissja22 View Post

I just have to throw out some praise for Paradigm speakers and this awesome forum.

A few months ago i desperately wanted to make the jump from my many HTIB over the years to a "real" HT setup. I love watching movies and listening to music loud (probably 70/30 movies to music) but didn't think i could afford a setup that would blow me away, but oh was i wrong! Here's the 5.1 system that i ended up with:

Center: CC-290 v6
Fronts: Monitor 9s v6 (bi-amped)
Rears: Monitor Atoms v6
Sub: DSP-3400
AVR: Pioneer Elite 21TXH
Blu-Ray: (soon to come) either the Oppo 80 or 83!
I already had a Sony 60" XBR2 - a few years old now but still produces a beautiful picture

I went with the Atoms over higher priced rears to put that $ towards the sub and it was a wise decision. The speakers sound fantastic anyways, but the deep bass of the 3400 just makes the movie experience magical. I got a great price on the pioneer receiver and to my relatively untrained ears it does a great job pushing clean warm sound through the speakers, though they don't need much help

I'm a very picky, indecisive and cost conscious buyer and i wanna thank everyone in this thread because you all helped this newb put together a solid sound system.

It's crazy that i'm still reading these forums even though i have a great system in place. This stuff is so addictive and i cant help but continue to look for ways to tweak this and that to optimize my setup (or even add to it lol).

Sorry for my lack of detailed tech review but with some more time spent on these forums and in front of my speakers i'll hopefully be able to offer some sound input that will help you all as you have helped me.

Very nice weis..Glad to see new members always coming in
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post #15109 of 28073
3/13/10 at 8:18am
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Originally Posted by ravingndrooling View Post

Happiness is buying a pair of brand new Studio 20s and a 690, sorrow is having paid for them and then having to wait until next month to get them because they are on backorder from Paradigm! For those with a 690 version 5, is it flat on the bottom or is it curved? I am going to have to make a custom enclosure for it and will need to angle the center up about 10 or 15 degrees.

Yes it comes angled with 2 black feet that are molded to the shape... Which make it sit flat... Also i dont know if they designed it so that you can rotate the feet and it would angle upwards... either way I did it (less than a cm sticks out of from the bottom) but cant notice if the grill is on... It gives it a little angle upwards.

this pic shows the curved 690 backing well http://www.xfaudio.it/prodotti/Parad..._CC_690_v5.jpg
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post #15110 of 28073
3/13/10 at 8:36am
Argh .... looks like another trip to Paradigm in Mississauga this week. The same woofer on the S2 seems to be acting up again. Though way more subtley this time. Didn't notice it until playing some two channel music today (selling my amp) and thought I heard an odd sound (thought it was something vibrating in the audio rack). Put my ear up close and noticed it was the woofer again, but doesn't seem to happen all the time and no where near as offensive as the last time.

Annoying given the price for Sigs, and the fact that I've already had the speaker repaird by PDigm! I know I push my speakers on occasion, but never past reference and typically 5 to 10db less, plus they are crossed at 100hz!

Wonder if something is wrong in the crossover that would cause the woofer to slowly tear/distort or something??

Grrr!
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post #15111 of 28073
3/13/10 at 9:15am
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Originally Posted by weissja22 View Post

I just have to throw out some praise for Paradigm speakers and this awesome forum.

A few months ago i desperately wanted to make the jump from my many HTIB over the years to a "real" HT setup. I love watching movies and listening to music loud (probably 70/30 movies to music) but didn't think i could afford a setup that would blow me away, but oh was i wrong! Here's the 5.1 system that i ended up with:

Center: CC-290 v6
Fronts: Monitor 9s v6 (bi-amped)
Rears: Monitor Atoms v6
Sub: DSP-3400
AVR: Pioneer Elite 21TXH
Blu-Ray: (soon to come) either the Oppo 80 or 83!
I already had a Sony 60" XBR2 - a few years old now but still produces a beautiful picture

I went with the Atoms over higher priced rears to put that $ towards the sub and it was a wise decision. The speakers sound fantastic anyways, but the deep bass of the 3400 just makes the movie experience magical. I got a great price on the pioneer receiver and to my relatively untrained ears it does a great job pushing clean warm sound through the speakers, though they don't need much help

I'm a very picky, indecisive and cost conscious buyer and i wanna thank everyone in this thread because you all helped this newb put together a solid sound system.

It's crazy that i'm still reading these forums even though i have a great system in place. This stuff is so addictive and i cant help but continue to look for ways to tweak this and that to optimize my setup (or even add to it lol).

Sorry for my lack of detailed tech review but with some more time spent on these forums and in front of my speakers i'll hopefully be able to offer some sound input that will help you all as you have helped me.

What does bi-amping your front speakers really do? just easier to power them? better sound? and what did you set your degree setting on the back of your dsp-3400??? curious thx

Oh and by the way nice choice in your setup...just awhile ago I was doing the same thing! HTIB for years and I jumped on the Paradigm Monitor 11 5.1 system and got a crazy deal!!!
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post #15112 of 28073
3/13/10 at 9:19am
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Argh .... looks like another trip to Paradigm in Mississauga this week. The same woofer on the S2 seems to be acting up again. Though way more subtley this time. Didn't notice it until playing some two channel music today (selling my amp) and thought I heard an odd sound (thought it was something vibrating in the audio rack). Put my ear up close and noticed it was the woofer again, but doesn't seem to happen all the time and no where near as offensive as the last time.

Annoying given the price for Sigs, and the fact that I've already had the speaker repaird by PDigm! I know I push my speakers on occasion, but never past reference and typically 5 to 10db less, plus they are crossed at 100hz!

Wonder if something is wrong in the crossover that would cause the woofer to slowly tear/distort or something??

Grrr!

play the internal test tones on the receiver and see if your getting a different/not normal sound coming from that driver.

Pushing in gently on the cone - in and out.... any scratching obviously is a damaged coil.
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post #15113 of 28073
3/13/10 at 9:23am
Thanks Fishak and Dave Ol.

I never heard the SE's. So that's what I will do today before making a decision. Any suggestions on the receiver for the studio 60's. What worked for you folks in this great forum.

thanks
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post #15114 of 28073
3/13/10 at 9:32am
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Originally Posted by SimpleTheater View Post

Are you from Hong Kong? Just curious since you specifically referenced the location.

The A2 will be MORE than enough for the S100's. I'm very close to selling my S20's because my dealer is offering new S100's for $2,350. He's probably getting tired of me asking prices between the PVA 7, PVA8, unreleased Anthem A/V receivers, and the Pioneer Elite SC-27 (don't know why I have Pioneer while looking at Anthem, but always had an affinity for their products).


Nope, I'm from Turkey, but our Anthem products are very expensive because of taxes. (D2v-15000$) A friend of mine regularly visits Turkey, he works in HK.

I had an affinity for Pioneer too I also don't know why Hope Anthem will finish it
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post #15115 of 28073
3/13/10 at 9:49am
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Originally Posted by Yellasum View Post

Thanks Fishak and Dave Ol.

I never heard the SE's. So that's what I will do today before making a decision. Any suggestions on the receiver for the studio 60's. What worked for you folks in this great forum.

thanks

I was able to hear the SE center last week with some Studio 100s. You will be able to hear the difference between the SEs and the Studios for sure. But for its size, it was pretty impressive. I was listening to version 5s so no actual knowledge of an SE with version 3s. Again, for its size, the SE put out a lot of sound. The room was maybe 20X15 and the SE center was able to keep up with no problems at the level I was listening at. If you like it LOUD, I think I would want a larger center channel.
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post #15116 of 28073
3/13/10 at 10:24am
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Originally Posted by Warpdrv View Post

play the internal test tones on the receiver and see if your getting a different/not normal sound coming from that driver.

Pushing in gently on the cone - in and out.... any scratching obviously is a damaged coil.

Oh, there's definitely something wrong. Don't even need to play the internal test tone. Same as last time, bass sounds distorted, almost like the cone is rattling. Except last time it was excruciatintly obvious. Pushing the cone slightly eliminates the sound.

The guy I just sold my Sunfire amp to brought his BC DAC 2 which he wanted to sell me so we were listening back and forth (between the Dac 2 and my Oppo 83) for about 20 minutes, same track. The vibration sound coming from the cone was pretty obvious (even though he didn't hear it at first which I thought was somewhat amusing!).

Very, very odd. I'd understand if I was running these guys full band in a large room, but not in my 12 x 17 family room crossed at 80 / 100 (switch on occasion).

I would have though replacing the woofer as they did last time would fix it. What else could cause that?
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post #15117 of 28073
3/13/10 at 10:28am
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Originally Posted by 13ege View Post

Nope, I'm from Turkey, but our Anthem products are very expensive because of taxes. (D2v-15000$) A friend of mine regularly visits Turkey, he works in HK.

I had an affinity for Pioneer too I also don't know why Hope Anthem will finish it

I would humbly suggest the Denon AVP and a D-Sonic 2500-7 as an option to the Anthems. You should be able to get both for about $1000 US more than just the D2v.2 alone. The Denon is easily in the same league sound quality and feature wise to the D2, and the amp is definitely world class and would compare more to Anthems' P5 than their A series amps.
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post #15118 of 28073
3/13/10 at 10:34am
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Originally Posted by pbc View Post

I would have though replacing the woofer as they did last time would fix it. What else could cause that?

Maybe the replacement was from the same defective "batch" as the original.
It could also be a bad component in the crossover as you suggested, There's really nothing else in play. Take the whole speaker in this time and have them check it out.
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post #15119 of 28073
3/13/10 at 10:47am
Yeah, brought the whole speaker in last time as well. They simply took one listen to it and replaced the woofer, then it sounded fine. Though admittedly I haven't had much use of it since, at least not any critical listening until today and once I heard the sound now I can't hear anything but.

Will see what they say this time. Thankfully I'm off next week so it'll be easier to find time to head to the factory.
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post #15120 of 28073
3/13/10 at 10:58am
Only way to rule out the crossover and the driver at the same time would be to swap the woofers in both speakers.

If your dealer is decent, just have him order a new woofer and bring the speaker in when he gets it... save ya some down time. My dealer is awesome - I just tell him I have a bad driver and he does that for me. Trusts me to know without wasting his time. I appreciate that about him.
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