Paradigm Owners Thread - Page 778

Just wanted to say that I joined the Paradigm owners club today. Mini monitors and a CC-290 center. Upgraded from Jamo E770 and E6 center. Very happy so far. First set of minis had a dead woofer so had to make an extra trip to switch it out. Both are v6. Got the minis for $335 and the 290 for $366. I thought that was fair. Probably going to upgrade to Monitor 9s next year and move the minis to surrounds. Very pleased for now though.

Congrats and welcome!! You will have many hours enjoying your Paradigms!! Amazing speakers!!!

I do have one question. If I upgrade to towers next year, monitor9 v7, how do the current versions match up with the v6? Are they tonally close enough to match with the cc-290 that I bought? Actually the minis are filling my room no problem so I am not sure if I would even need towers again.

Hi guys I am building my first theater which is 20' by 13.5'

the speakers and amp that I am sourcing is:
Denon AVR4311
Paradigm Monitor 11's
Paradigm Center 3
Two pairs of Paradigm ADP-390s for Wides and Rear surrounds??
Paradigm Atom for heights
Paradigm DSP-3400 Sub

I am debating to do 2 rows or 1 row of seating,

My questions are: if I have one row should I change one pair of the ADP-390s for something like the mini monitors or another pair or atoms for the wide channel? I shouldnt use ADP-390s for a wide channel as I would need a mono speaker?

If I do 2 rows of seating should I scrap the wide channel and have side and rear surround with the 2 pairs of ADP-390s?

Has anyone seen the new suround 3s? What will the difference be between them and the ADP-390 being bipole/dipole? What is preference on surounds? Stick with ADPs or get suround 3?

Adp's won't work well for wides. I would buy a pair of mini monitors for that duty , then down the road get another pair for front highs. You could use the 390s for rear surrounds and buy another pair of minis for rear heights or rear surround depending if you go 7.1,9.1 or 11.1

The 4311 is very capable and you will find yourself adding more speakers

Thanks for your reply,

In a room of my size, is 2 rows of seating spacious? That's my only worry is that it will be squishy and if I only do 1 row I think I would rather have front wides then add rears later on. On the contrary, if I do 2 rows I will scrap the front wides for now and add rear ADPs

PS Im very jelous of your speakers, if I had the cash id go studio 100s 20's 10s and cc690 in a heartbeat they are so expensive here in AUS

Just wanted to say thats going to be a great theater!! Great choice in speakers!!!!

I have a Paradigm Signature c3- version3 , center channel right now. Looking at getting the c5. Anyone owned the c3, and upgraded to the c5, version 3? Get to compare them side by side? Notice any huge difference in sound quality? Hope you can help.

I recently went from the C3 v3 to the C5 v3 and found it to be a costly by worthy switch. With the C3 it was much easier to tell there were 3 speakers across the front, with the C5 it gives more of the impression of a wall of sound . I always found it easy to tell that the dialog was coming from the small 4' mid on the C3, where as the extra mids in the C5 seem to give the dialog wider dispersion and a more natural sound to my ears.

I wasn't able to compare them side by side in my home as the C3 had sold quicker than I thought, it was gone before the C5 arrived.

I've read elsewhere about people using mirage nanosats/omnisats for surrounds. Anyone used them with a paradigm setup and if so how was it. Was curious about their design and how it was vs direct or bi/dipole surrounds.

Hi -

Local Kijiji ad is purporting to sell some Paradigm Reference speakers. Seller didn't give the model or version in the ad (I've PM'd the question), but he took a closeup shot of the logo.

It has the stylized "P" with only the word "Reference" below - per the Paradigm website, the logo seems to be the stylized "P" with "Paradigm Reference" below. Maybe they changed their logo over time?

I've been trying to Google to figure out what model speakers they are (for price comparison purposes) while I wait for him to get back to me, but I keep coming up empty.

I suspect they are older, based on the fact the Pio stereo amp he is also selling is a circa 1987 model - they kind of look like a Mini Monitor or Atom??

He classifies them as "top of the line". Maybe I am just being paranoid...

Thanks I really can not wait to get my first theater up and running

To take this a bit further then, if you (everyone and anyone) were faced with the following what would you (what should I) choose.
Bear in mind the room dimensions of 20' x 13.5' x 9' powered by a Denon AVR4311

2 rows of seating
Paradigm Monitor 11's
Paradigm Center 3
Two pairs of Paradigm ADP-390s for side and rear surrounds
Paradigm Atoms for front heights
Paradigm DSP-3400 Sub

OR

1 row of seating
Paradigm Monitor 11's
Paradigm Center 3
Paradigm ADP-390s for Side surrounds at about 100-110 degrees from front to listening position
Paradigm Atoms for front heights
Paradigm Atoms/Mini Monitors for front wides
Paradigm DSP-3400 Sub

I would swap out the ADP's for the new bipolar surrounds. Especially if you are doing 2 rows of seats.

Much more enveloping sound in a narrow (ish) room.

Just my 2 cents.

Tom

I've never used the 3400 before but I'm not sure if it will be enough for a room that size. I use two JBL 12s in my room and its just 13 x 11 x 8. You may want to consider 2 subs for your setup. I have never tried height speakers before but I've heard several people say that they are not that effective and wides are more noticeable. One idea would be to buy 1 pair of ADP 390s and one pair of Atoms and try the Atoms as height/wide and back surrounds to see which one is most effective. I always thought the ADPs were for the side surrounds and directs were for back surrounds but I did hear a system recently with adp590s for side and back surrounds and it did sound pretty good. It depends how far you are away from the back wall too. This was a small theater with the back surrounds only about 4 feet or less from the seat so there wouldn't have been enough room for directs behind it. Do you have a layout down yet for where the seats and everything will be?

No, we are building a new house and I plan to put a deposit down for the gear i need this week end and they will do the pre wiring for me... so I am still open to layout and configuration settings.
I am thinking to start with one row of seating to begin with, then atleast I can add a 2nd row plus rears down the track if I want another row. Also the plan is to expand to 9.2/11.2 when the time is right too.

Surround 3 over adp390?? I dont know. I have not heard both, I just know the ADPs were pretty kick ass when I heard them.

I am using Mirage Omnican 6's for my surround speakers with Paradigm Titan and cc290 v5's up front. I think they sound very good together. I am set up in my great room and could not use regular speakers for my surrounds. I think the omnidirectional dispersion works well in a surround speaker.

there is a cc 490 for sale at a good price over at audio aslylum if anyone is interested.

Hi, all - first off, sorry for the paranoia of my prior post above. It in fact appears that the speakers in question are Paradigm Reference Studio 20's - the original version (and the Paradigm Reference logo was different then than it is now).

That being the case, I have a couple of queries:

1. Anyone know how these "originals" would sound in comparison to something newer in the line, like v4 or v5?

2. I am kind of assuming these might need to be refoamed, due to their age, but assuming these are otherwise "mint", what would a fair price be for them?

Thanks

Any one else have any input on the above situations? Your suggestions are really valuable to me so please speak up

I have a cc290 which is too big for me now at new place. Can some suggests me some good center speaker under $500 which would be a good replacement for cc290 and match front speakers Paradigm Titans?

Thanks Paradigm gurus.

hi all big paradigm fan have a boo at the links in my sig
just got a new studio 12 v5 sub too add to the ht 11.2 cheers

ps in the vid i think i said there v4,s turned in to v5 100,s there actually v3,s with v5 tweeters and mids

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Why not just get a CC-190 to replace the 290? Is that too big as well?

Kind of. I am looking for something that I can mount on the wall.

How do people feel about the Monitor 7 vs. Monitor 9. Ive heard some reviews actually state they thought the 7 sounded better. Im talking in the most recent Version 7. I will be getting a pair to go with my Atom Monitor V7's within a few months and wanted to see if anyone has feedback. Thanks!

Matt

Been using my Cinema 90s for surround and wondering whether getting a bookshelf /sat like the Energy V-Minis or the NHT superzeros would make a difference? Suggestions? I love how this little guys perform but am curious to see how a bookshelf with some mid bass would do as surrounds

Have you considered mounting your CC-290 on some big L-brackets from Home Depot? You can paint them to match your wall and add a bit of velcro to ensure the speaker doesn't fall when bumped into.

Paradigm makes the Millenia 20 and 30 that mount nicely on the wall. I don't know how well they would match your Titan L/R speakers. I use the Millenia 30 for L/C/R. They mount very nicely on the wall but note they do not cover lower frequencies. I cross over to my subwoofer at a relatively high 150 Hz. It's a compromise due to my space constraints.

Ok guys

Is it worth the upgrade from studio to signature?????!!!???

Currently
Marx 700, studio60s, sub 12, cc 590, sa15r in ceiling rears

Would It be worth an upgrade to s6s and a c3?

Would I need an a2 to power those puppies as I feel I need an a2 already

I wouldn't be able to buy a sub for a long time either

Save the money and get the 7 s if you have a sub it doesn't matter

I have a sub already, but it's not the best one. Is that really all the 9's are better for is the bass? I'll be listening to both of them extensively, but just wanted some real world feedback. Thanks!

Matt