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post #23521 of 28073
2/2/12 at 8:29pm
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Originally Posted by pappaduke View Post

The price range for this hobby is almost infinite. I have just learned to set a budget, expect to spend a little more, and enjoy what I have. My monitor series V6, Yamaha 2010, PS3 and 55" Sony is the envy of many and probably junk to some others. The thing is, it sounds and looks great to me. At the end of the day, that is all that matters. Just my 2 cents.

Truth right there. We all have different budgets and sometimes, a little reality check is needed. The only person I need to impress is myself. Besides, I have a family and can't be selfish with this hobby.
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post #23522 of 28073
2/3/12 at 7:44am
has anyone bought from 6ave.com electronics???
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post #23523 of 28073
2/3/12 at 7:47am
Hi guys, I'm about to list my 10 out of 10 studio 100's v5 in black ash that have been boxed up for some time on audiogon. My question is, does the buyer or the seller usually pay for the shipping of the speakers and what is a reasonable asking price (not sure if i'm allowed to ask that or not)? I was thinking 2400 or 2500. Thanks so much
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post #23524 of 28073
2/3/12 at 9:19am
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Originally Posted by jmoore84 View Post

has anyone bought from 6ave.com electronics???

I've bought from them in the past with good experience. I believe they are now out of business and whatever inventory is left is on liquidation.


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Originally Posted by AVKIK View Post

Hi guys, I'm about to list my 10 out of 10 studio 100's v5 in black ash that have been boxed up for some time on audiogon. My question is, does the buyer or the seller usually pay for the shipping of the speakers and what is a reasonable asking price (not sure if i'm allowed to ask that or not)? I was thinking 2400 or 2500. Thanks so much

The buyer generally pays shipping. $2500 is a safe price for those speakers. If you ship them, be sure to offer that they are either shipped freight to protect them or double box them with another carrier. I can't stress enough that shipping via ups/FedEx is a safe bet on those speakers, so be sure to use extreme caution here. Things could get ugly quickly.
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post #23525 of 28073
2/3/12 at 9:54am
I have a chance to buy one of these old subs for my system. Problem is I cannot find any real specs on this perticular unit anywhere. No manuals can be downloaded to give me the information.

What I need to know is what the frequency range or the lowest Hz this unit was designed to output. The PS 1000 was rated down to 24hz, so Im trying to find out how much above that the PS 800 is. I would guess 30Hz, but a spec sheet would tell me that.

Does anyone know anything about this sub?
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post #23526 of 28073
2/3/12 at 10:41am
Venomous, thanks so much for the tip and info.
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post #23527 of 28073
2/3/12 at 10:49am
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Originally Posted by jmoore84 View Post

has anyone bought from 6ave.com electronics???

If you are looking to buy new paradigms you must go to an authorized dealer. They are not sold online. If you are buying used online it will very likely be "as is" with no warranty.
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post #23528 of 28073
2/3/12 at 11:42am
they have millenia 20's at $397 i have 2 pair of 200's so it would make a nice center
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post #23529 of 28073
2/3/12 at 1:28pm
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Originally Posted by jmoore84 View Post

has anyone bought from 6ave.com electronics???

Yes. In Paramus NJ. Very good salesmen there when I bought about four years ago. They let me go in with my own CDs, listen at length to the signature S8s which were in a separate theater room and being powered by an Anthem amp then the Studio 100s which were also in their own theater room powered by an AVR (don't remember which but I think Denon). Neither of the two sales guys that helped me were the pushy type and just let me enjoy the speakers and figure out which ones suited me best. Also, I ended up going with the Studio 100 V.4s but they didn't have the cherry color in stock that I wanted so the salesman ordered the cherry for me but allowed me to take a pair of black ash 100s home until mine came in just to be sure I'm happy with them. I can't speak for other 6th Ave shops or their staff but this one in particular was very good in my personal experience.

Crap! I just realized you asked about their website, not an actual store. Oh well, maybe this info will be useful to someone else.
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post #23530 of 28073
2/3/12 at 2:31pm
6th Ave used to be a decent shop. BUT they have now gone out of business, and have a lot of recent complaints posted about them for non-shipping products, etc. I would treat all sales as final, hope you get your product, and hope you don't have any issues with the products.

*I* would not buy anything from them, at this point. I have used, and liked, them in the past, but the situation has changed.

Considering how long ago their final "fire sale" was, I'm suspicious of sending any money there way, this long after:
http://springfield.patch.com/article...fter-fire-sale
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post #23531 of 28073
2/3/12 at 9:08pm
just wondering what are the difference between the v.4 v.5 and the v.6 (for the paradigm center speaker 690)
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post #23532 of 28073
2/3/12 at 9:37pm
Are their any owners here of the MilleniaOne 2.0 system? What about the MilleniaSub? Is it worth the price of admission?

Would a Marantz NR1402/NR1602 match well with such a system?

I am possibly looking for a compact, (non-Bose) system that works well with a 50" plasma HDTV in a living room of an apartment that is about 10'x10' with 9' ceilings.
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post #23533 of 28073
2/3/12 at 10:59pm
I love my Paradigm



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post #23534 of 28073
2/4/12 at 1:48am
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Originally Posted by GTaudiophile View Post

Are their any owners here of the MilleniaOne 2.0 system? What about the MilleniaSub? Is it worth the price of admission?

Would a Marantz NR1402/NR1602 match well with such a system?

I am possibly looking for a compact, (non-Bose) system that works well with a 50" plasma HDTV in a living room of an apartment that is about 10'x10' with 9' ceilings.

In a room that small, yes you could get away with those receivers for the MilleniaOne. You'd harm your own hearing well before you approached any risk of harming the speakers for lack of power .
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post #23535 of 28073
2/4/12 at 4:00am
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Originally Posted by GTaudiophile View Post

Are their any owners here of the MilleniaOne 2.0 system? What about the MilleniaSub? Is it worth the price of admission?

Would a Marantz NR1402/NR1602 match well with such a system?

I am possibly looking for a compact, (non-Bose) system that works well with a 50" plasma HDTV in a living room of an apartment that is about 10'x10' with 9' ceilings.

I have the Millenia One 5 speaker system. They replaced my Klipsch RF7 system for the bedroom. I am shocked these little speakers sound so good with my Sunfire True signature sub. I may get a new SVS sub soon to replace the Sunfire.
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post #23536 of 28073
2/4/12 at 5:38am
Can anyone comment on the MilleniaOne sub? Priced at nearly $1500? Is it worth it or should I look at other options?
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post #23537 of 28073
2/4/12 at 5:48am
Unless its WAF-friendly form-factor is essential, there are plenty of subs available for $1,500 or less - considerably less - that equal or better the MilleniaSub's specs (300W RMS, 21Hz @ -3dB) and, presumably, its performance as well.
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post #23538 of 28073
2/4/12 at 6:51am
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Originally Posted by jaamar1 View Post

I love my Paradigm




Nice Setup !!!
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post #23539 of 28073
2/4/12 at 9:58am
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Originally Posted by GTaudiophile View Post

Can anyone comment on the MilleniaOne sub? Priced at nearly $1500? Is it worth it or should I look at other options?

If WAF is a factor and you want to stay with Paradigm for your subwoofer purchase (for whatever reason), look at the new Monitor subwoofers. Sealed design, small (really small) form factor, sub 20Hz performance, and design specifications taken directly from the Reference line of subwoofers. For $1500 you can get two Monitor SUB 10's (17Hz DIN).

Of course you can also get some even deeper digging subwoofers from the usual ID companies for $1500 (or less).....but I was just letting you know there are better options among Paradigm's line if you wanted to stay with them for whatever reason. You won't believe how awesome these subwoofers perform, especially given their ridiculously small size. It's unbelievable even after hearing them over and over (I have dual Monitor SUB 10's in my room and am still impressed at how well they handle even the loudest bass movies like Tron or Transformers: DotM).
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post #23540 of 28073
2/4/12 at 10:39am
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Originally Posted by GTaudiophile View Post

Can anyone comment on the MilleniaOne sub? Priced at nearly $1500? Is it worth it or should I look at other options?

It is part of the lifestyle system -- if you need the form factor and want to hide it away or tuck it behind something it cannot be beat. Or if you are OCD and want a visually matching system. If you don't care about easily seeing a sub in the room I would do what the others have suggested and pick up a new monitor line sub for less, or two for a similar price. The reference sub line doesn't start until about 2K.
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post #23541 of 28073
2/4/12 at 12:52pm
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Originally Posted by GTaudiophile View Post

Can anyone comment on the MilleniaOne sub? Priced at nearly $1500? Is it worth it or should I look at other options?

I would go with a SVS sub like the SB12 NSB.
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post #23542 of 28073
2/4/12 at 7:05pm
Hey guys,

My dedicated HT room:
- Series 7 Monitor 9's
- Series 7 Center 3
- Monitor SUB 10 (x2)
- Axiom Audio QS8 Bi-pole surrounds
- Axiom Audio M2 on-wall height speakers
- Integra DTR-70.3
- My use is 100% movies.

I absolutely love the sound of the Series 7 Monitors. Very clean, very neutral. The Axiom surround/height speakers I have actually timbre match pretty well to the front three Paradigm's (especially since I don't listen to multichannel music, only movies).

That said, I have found myself very tempted to upgrade to the Studio line for my front three speakers. The main reason is I miss the size of my old CC-390 center speaker and the CC-690 is the cheapest option to have that big size again (without moving backwards). Don't get me wrong, the Center 3 is a very capable center but ever since I got a front projector setup (hence a wider screen) it feels like the dialogue doesn't quite matchup to the size of the picture, if that makes any sense.

- Are the Studio speakers worth looking at for movie use only? I've demoed them with music and was very impressed obviously. But for strict movie use would the price outweigh the gains?
- Do they still perform well without dedicated amps/being powered by just a robust AVR?
- Would it be very unwise to get just the CC-690 and keep the Monitor 9 towers?
- Will I still be able to keep my Axiom surrounds/heights and not worry about timbre matching those for movie use if I go the Studio route?

My main concern is getting the bigger center speaker, so whatever scenarios work off that starting point for the least amount of money I'm open to hearing.

Thanks guys!
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post #23543 of 28073
2/4/12 at 7:54pm
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Originally Posted by jaamar1 View Post

I love my Paradigm

I love your Paradigms too! That's a sweet system you got there.
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post #23544 of 28073
2/4/12 at 8:04pm
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Originally Posted by BigCoolJesus View Post

Hey guys,

My dedicated HT room:
- Series 7 Monitor 9's
- Series 7 Center 3
- Monitor SUB 10 (x2)
- Axiom Audio QS8 Bi-pole surrounds
- Axiom Audio M2 on-wall height speakers
- Integra DTR-70.3
- My use is 100% movies.

I absolutely love the sound of the Series 7 Monitors. Very clean, very neutral. The Axiom surround/height speakers I have actually timbre match pretty well to the front three Paradigm's (especially since I don't listen to multichannel music, only movies).

That said, I have found myself very tempted to upgrade to the Studio line for my front three speakers. The main reason is I miss the size of my old CC-390 center speaker and the CC-690 is the cheapest option to have that big size again (without moving backwards). Don't get me wrong, the Center 3 is a very capable center but ever since I got a front projector setup (hence a wider screen) it feels like the dialogue doesn't quite matchup to the size of the picture, if that makes any sense.

- Are the Studio speakers worth looking at for movie use only? I've demoed them with music and was very impressed obviously. But for strict movie use would the price outweigh the gains?
- Do they still perform well without dedicated amps/being powered by just a robust AVR?
- Would it be very unwise to get just the CC-690 and keep the Monitor 9 towers?
- Will I still be able to keep my Axiom surrounds/heights and not worry about timbre matching those for movie use if I go the Studio route?

My main concern is getting the bigger center speaker, so whatever scenarios work off that starting point for the least amount of money I'm open to hearing.

Thanks guys!

You could always go with the SE towers and the cc690, they wouldn't quite match visually but would save you a few bucks.
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post #23545 of 28073
2/4/12 at 8:38pm
The cc690 is a monster. You don't understand it's size until you get it home. The impact it makes for movies is incredible.

Studio 20s, 60s and 100s sound awesome with it because they all have the same drivers. It's not a cheap center by any means either. I don't know I would be mixing the center with a different type of L/R channel speaker though.
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post #23546 of 28073
2/4/12 at 8:53pm
Venomous,

I see you have some of the speakers in your system that I'm considering. I'd appreciate your thoughts on LR Studio 20s, 590 for center and Studio 10s for the other two channels which would be at 115-120 degrees, wall mounted just above shoulder height so they don't get "bumped". All speakers are appx 7 feet from MLP. This is not a dedicated home theater system, just a living room space, and my goal is to have a "nicer" surround sound system. I think I want two subs for the benefits that two versus one provides, something in the SVS or comparable product line. I'm sold on XT32 and probably the Denon 4311.

Would love to hear anyone's thoughts on the above.
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post #23547 of 28073
2/4/12 at 9:24pm
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Originally Posted by Venomous View Post

The cc690 is a monster. You don't understand it's size until you get it home. The impact it makes for movies is incredible.

That's why I want it!

Would it be a downgrade if I went with Studio 20's in place of my current Monitor 9 towers? My subwoofers are more than capable, but I didn't know if going with bookshelves would lose me some impact/punch from the left/right channels during movies.......
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post #23548 of 28073
2/4/12 at 9:28pm
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Originally Posted by UtahPaul View Post

Venomous,

I see you have some of the speakers in your system that I'm considering. I'd appreciate your thoughts on LR Studio 20s, 590 for center and Studio 10s for the other two channels which would be at 115-120 degrees, wall mounted just above shoulder height so they don't get "bumped". All speakers are appx 7 feet from MLP. This is not a dedicated home theater system, just a living room space, and my goal is to have a "nicer" surround sound system. I think I want two subs for the benefits that two versus one provides, something in the SVS or comparable product line. I'm sold on XT32 and probably the Denon 4311.

Would love to hear anyone's thoughts on the above.

I think you would love them. You may not even need to go with a 590 as a center if you can fit a studio 20 vertically for the center and interested in saving some money. The 590 is good for strong dialog however. You should see if a dealer has any in their listening room and have them setup 3 studio 20s and then a pair of of 20s with a 590 in there.

Having studio 60s or 100s, you gotta spring for the 690 center to have it sound right.

Studio 10s are great surrounds. I have mine at 117 degrees because of how my sectional is setup.

With the 4311 though, you have good power for driving that 590.
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post #23549 of 28073
2/4/12 at 9:33pm
BCJ, I think the 20s aren't as efficient as your speakers, nor do they have the same power handling capacity. So they may not work for you just from a physics standpoint, depending on how far your MLP is from them. From a sonic point of view, I have no idea. In my situation, my space is somewhat constained, and I think bookshelf style speakers might be a cleaner, less over-powering asthetic. I'm considering the studio line because they are NOT a box with three pairs of parallel sides.
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post #23550 of 28073
2/4/12 at 9:38pm
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That's why I want it!

Would it be a downgrade if I went with Studio 20's in place of my current Monitor 9 towers? My subwoofers are more than capable, but I didn't know if going with bookshelves would lose me some impact/punch from the left/right channels during movies.......

Yes you would lose some punch from the mains with the bookshelves. The SE's have all the same drivers as the 60's, just the cabinets are different. It'd be a close match tonally and I don't think they'd really be much more than the 20's after you got done buying stands.
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