Paradigm Owners Thread - Page 816

I am running two Studio 10's in small reading room (12ft x 14ft), for my two channel system with vinyl and cd's. Loving it!

Hey - I just had an epiphany. Well to my dumb brain it is .
Why dont speaker manufacturers provide some sort of binding posts that allows us to feed the tweeters and woofers individually in such a way that the signal can be seperated after the crossover. Or they can provide some kind of a switch that allows us to either feed them before or after the crossover and let us use the same binding posts. Why didnt they think of some thing like this? Or do they already know about this and dont want to encourage something like this.

My friend's speakers (brand/model is escaping me) allow him to drive the tweeters separately from the woofers, or bridge them. He does not have a separate amp, so I think he's using the surrounds on his receiver to drive this option. Is this what you're talking about, or did I misinterpret your idea?

I was thinking more in the lines of allowing an output from the crossovers that could be fed to the amp and then the output from the amp that could be fed to the tweeter/woofers.

Hello, I'm interested in upgrading my front three speakers and in a thread I started on this subject, paradigm was suggested as a possible choice. I'm finding little to no information on pricing on these online, so I thought this thread might be a good place to get some information. Could someone here suggest what line and model I should be looking at (studio, monitor, etc) if I was looking to spend somewhere around 1500 for my front three. I could increase my budget to 2k if needed. It looks like you can't really buy these online except for used speakers, so before I make a long drive to look at these I was hoping to gain a little more knowledge around which line would fit in my price range.

Too much hassle for too little gain.

Bi-amping when you have control of the crossover point and slope can act like a room correction of sorts, and yes it can reduce the load on amps, but why have two if you have one good one?
Some people like to goof around and maybe use tubes on top and solid state on the bottom but, to me that's more of a hobby thing than a practical application.
The crossover is a key component in speaker design, and there's a lot of R&D done to make sure it matches well with the drivers' and cabinets' characteristics.

In typical applications, if you're using a sub you are indeed actively bi-amping and reducing the load on your amps.

Plus with today's room corrections things like slope, timing and crossover points are done to a degree of accuracy that would be hard to match for even the most experienced hobbyist manually.

I see.... And also I guess there would need to be some kind of power protection circuity right before the driver if all that power from the amp is allowed to be fed to them directly.

You are most likely looking at the monitor line. Here is a link to the Audioholics first look which gives some retail pricing. You should get some discount for purchasing the center with the mains. How much varies form retailer to retailer.

http://www.audioholics.com/reviews/s...digm-monitor-7

Hope this helps a little. Hope to see you added to the Paradigm family. Had mine a few months now and absolutely love them.

Good luck.

If you have a large room and like to listen loud, the Monitor series is the place to look, like csjiv said. They have a range of models up to a room-filling tower speaker.

If your room is more moderately sized, you can step up to the Studio 20. These are really nice "bookshelf" speakers with excellent clarity. If you are pressed for space, you can look at Paradigms on-wall speakers, the Millenia 20 and 30.

Do you have a sub? It might make a difference since some of the speakers I listed don't reach low enough on their own, especially for movies.

Yes, I currently have an epik empire so my sub should be fine if I decided to go for bookshelfs. Thanks for these replies, I will definitely take a look at those speakers mentioned.

If you could increase that budget $2k more like you outlined, then the studios are something you should look at. You could get a pair of studio 20s and a 590 center for about $3000. You will need stands, but you could get a decent pair for $200.

When picking speakers, you need to pay attention to the size room you will be listening in and whether this is mainly music, movies or a combo of both.

The monitor line is a true value, just not as musical as the studios. I'm not sure if you want a tower speaker, bookshelves, etc.

Monitor 9s and 11s are awesome floorstanding speakers. It's going to cost you a kidney to get nice floorstanding models in the studio line and both lungs for the signature line.

So, my recommendation is construct a listening cd or bring regular discs that you know very well, set up an appt for an audition and go listen to the monitors and studios. Let your ears and wallet make the decision for you. You can find a dealer on paradigms website.

IIRC his other thread was 90/10 HT/music so I recommended the monitors. I think the studios would be paying extra, IMO, without much gain. I know the studios are better with music, but I think the monitors are no slouch for the 10% of the time they would be pulling music duty.

I totally agree, monitors are a very good value for what you get. Hell many speakers at twice their cost can't even compete with them.

I demoed a pair of v7 monitor minis when I was looking for rear surrounds. There was a Macintosh hooked up to them in a 2.0 setup and I was very impressed with them. Ultimately, I chose the studio 10s because I enjoy a lot of multichannel music listening and wanted everything to match.

How much better are the SE3's then the Monitor speakers for music? Are they closer to the studio's or Monitor speakers?

I just upgraded to Monitor v6 from authorized dealers last week. Monitor 11 floor models for $800 and $300 for cc290. Was stuck with Wenge finish, but it looks nice. They sound incredible, andnfor $1100 you can't go wrong. Might have some room in the budget for some v6 adp too. Sound ideas in Gainesville Florida sells over the phone, and has cc290 and adp 190 and 390 for about 50% off if you can find monitor 9 or 11 v6 demos somewhere else.

Funny, I can't find any "version" number on the speaker or the box! My speakers don't have the chrome face with the grill off, they are uniform in appearence (black ash). I'm going to listen to Dynaudio, then try to find someone that sells the 60 and has them in stock.

Jeff

I've never compared the floorstanders, but I've owned Monitor bookshelves & the SE1s. I think the SE1s definitely sound cleaner in the low frequencies and more refined in the upper frequencies.

One person online commented about early monitor series. . .

Dynaudio makes some really good speakers, bit expensive though. Had a friend that likes the Contour S 1.4

Here's a image of a monitor 9 v1 setup, and a larger image of a monitor 9 v1, should help you identify your version.

Checking out studio 60's would be worthwhile.

My understanding of the SE's is that they are Monitor enclosures with Studio drivers. I would think that they would lean more towards Studios in SQ than the Monitors as the drivers probably contribute more than the cabs.

For the folks looking to mount ADP's, here was my mounting job:

http://www.avsforum.com/avs-vb/showp...ostcount=23238

I spaced the bracket out slightly from the wall and bananas worked fine.

Thanks for the pic links. But it's definatly not V-1. Inside the speaker cover it's black in color, uniform with the rest of the speaker.

Jeff

So I got my studio 60s and cc-590. What should I do for surrounds, $2800 seems excessive for 4 surrounds.

Currently I have some old dipolar DT surrounds from my previous system, but dont know if it would be worth upgrading or if I could get away with say atom/mini monitors for direct or adp-190s if I wanted dipolar.

Looking for some suggestions choosing an external amp to drive a pair of 4 ohm stylus 370-SM's outdoor speakers in a 3rd zone using my RX-A2010. So far I'm considering an Emotiva mini X a-100, a Russound X75 and an Audiosource AMP 102.any help or suggestions would be appreciated. I would like to stay under $300 and preferably closer to $200.

http://www.ebay.com/itm/New-Paradigm...#ht_3626wt_689


Get em quick, before they are gone. I just bought 4 from them, they sound incredible. Every rain scene sounds like water is looting in my house, big improvement over old adp170.

You have a lot of options here, but it depends on how far back your couch is to the wall.ADPs work well in some situations but fall flat on their face when playing back music. Remember, these are plastic enclosure speakers. If your mainly a theater guy, these are a good option. Once music comes into play, you are immediately reminded what these speakers were designed for.

The monitor minis and atoms blend very well with studios as well. Then there's the studio 10s which surprisingly, are to very inexpensive.

I have 390's in the rear and 590's for the sides and I can tell you that the 590's are significantly better. The difference in quality doesn't bother me much because the rears get so little use, but I wouldn't trade my 590's in to save the money for lesser surround speakers.

I purchased some ADP-590 last night and Audyssey set the X-O at 80hz (they are on stands which probably affects the bass response some). During listening I noticed some distortion. Audyssey does a pretty good job on setting the X-O but I had to raise my X-O to 90hz to remove the distortion. You may need to raise yours aswell.

Hi folks. This looks like the appropriate thread for my question: All my HT electronics are antiquated, therefore, I'll be getting a new TV and upper mid-level AVR and Blu-ray in the next few months. I have 1995 vintage Monitor 7s, 350 CC, and PS 1000 SW, and SpeakerCraft Aim surrounds. My usage is 90% HT, and 10% music. Are these speakers of appropriate quality for the proposed system or would an upgrade make an obvious difference? Thanks for the input.

I have Monitor PCM-703 for my mains and love them. If your happy with your speakers why replace? I had to replace my MAFX-2 surrounds yesterday due to one of the woofers going out but if that had not happend they would still be in my system.

That's the plastic casing the drivers are housed in causing resonance, not necessarily distortion. I heard the same thing while auditioning music which promptly changed my decision and to look at using bookshelfs instead. ADP590s are severely overpriced for what you get.