Paradigm Owners Thread - Page 833

Yea, I'm guessing you are primarily referring to the 802 and 800 diamonds. I think the design is pretty out there, but I find the design of the 803 and 804 to be striking. I love the way the tweeter on top looks. However, I like a little flair to make the speaker stand out so that even with the grill on people can identify them from a mile away (metaphorically).

Yea, l loved their sound on the 800/802... Just couldn't bring them home. The whole pod thing wouldn't fit the room.

Hi Everyone. Looking for opinions on which center channel I should choose to matchup with my Series 7 Monitor 9's. The Center1? Or the Center3? Current room size is 11' X 15' X 8'. May move everything to a different room size of 15' X 19' X 8'. I'm leaning toward the Center1 and am interested in your thoughts. Thanks, in advance, for your advice.

Dallas

I thought that the S7 Monitor 7's sounded very nice. They were strong candidates until I heard the Monitor 9's, which I ended up taking home with me. They were just that much better IMHO.

dalwilli,

I would go for the Center3, especially if you are going to the bigger room. I'm a firm believer in larger drivers.

Considering buying the Studio 10's for fronts for HT. No space for floorstanders. Also, considering Aperion Verus Grand bookshelf with matching center channel. Anyone do a side by side between these two brands? Thoughts? My impressions between the two were the Studio 10's deeper tighter bass, better imaging and clearer sounding. The studios are more money and do sound some better. However, they do sound somewhat brighter to me. Any way to tone this down? Did not listen to the center channel for the studio 10. Would the center for the studios have the brighter sound as well? Are Paradigms considered to be a bright or neutral sounding speaker? Thanks for any help.

I also have the Series 7 Monitor 9's and I have the Center3. My opinon is to always go big especially if you are going to a bigger room. I tried the Centre1 and was just not happy, it sounded to thin and did not blend as well with the 9's. I would only recommend the Centre1 with the smaller Monitor 7's.

I have Monitor 7 and Center 1. The center 1 was based on space constrains of my entertainment cabinet, otherwise I would have gone C3. I don’t feel any urge to upgrade it to the C3 as the C1 does sound good. When I first installed it I had it sitting flat in its space and it was lacking a little, I have since angled it up so it’s aimed near ear level and that made all the difference. Point is im sure the C3 is better, it’s bigger with bigger drivers and that’s never a bad thing, however the C1 isn’t a dud.

Regarding the 7's vs. the 9's I wanted to buy the 9's and when I auditioned them A/B with no sub the 9's had a fuller sounding low end (subtle but noticeable), add the subwoofer for the A/B comparison and I couldn’t tell the difference between the 7 and 9, so I went with the 7's.

Why the heck did Paradigm discontinue the Sub 25?!

Was it cutting too much into the sales of the Sub 2 (at double the price)?

The reviews for the Sub 25 were outstanding...

Go for center 3, i have monitor 7s7 and center 3 and i love the sound.

Paradigm experts need your opinions, currently im using denon1910, which avr is a better upgrade denon 4311 or anthem mrx 300? Thanks

4311 = no brainer.

Hi:

I am building a new home theater and am looking at a few speaker choices - but keep coming back to Paradigm....

I am looking at the Paradigm Signature set-up:

S8 (Pair)
C5
ADP3 (3 Pair)
Sub 2 (2)

For a 9.2 set-up.

I am also looking at getting the Anthem Statement D2v.

What set-up as far as Anthem Statement amplifiers (A2, A5, M1...) would really bring this speaker set-up to its full potential?

Thanks!

I am finishing out a 5.1 system home theater in our basement but need recommendations to match new Paradigm dipole surrounds and sub with older studio 40's? I think the paradigm speakers below were purchased in 2005. Given the size of the room, I think 7.1 is probably not attainable but I want a good matching timbre.

I own:
studio 40's L and R (on stands)
CC 570
NAD755

If you could recommend what I should purchase I would appreciate it. Also, can the speakers be mounted in the ceiling vs. the side walls?

Well, considering that you're looking at spending $50,000+ on speakers, you've got some high-end amp options staying with Paradigm. I really like the M1s, I think they're great tech. So I'd be looking to use those across the front 3 if possible. However, that leaves you with some awkward choices, having 6 channels remaining. Personally, if I had the kind of cash to throw around that you seem to, I'd over-buy on the channels a bit to leave options for the future. So, I'd probably do something like 3xM1 + 1xP5 + 1xA5. That leaves a bunch of extra channels. You could easily do an A2 instead of an A5.

I'd also point out that there are very few rooms that need 2 Sub2s. That'd be a lot of sub.

Also, 6xADP3 isn't necessarily the best arrangement. ADPs are strongest as the side speakers, they make less sense for rear speakers and much less for heights. I'd probably do ADP3s for the sides and then use S2s or S1s for at least the heights and probably the rears as well.

Finally, note that the D2v is a 7.1 processor. It doesn't have any height channel outputs or processing. So, while it's a fantastic piece of equipment, you might want to think about whether it matches your plans or not.

That's a serious set up you're looking at. Anthem is Paradigm's sister company so naturally they're a good match, you really can't go wrong. The D2v is an excellent pre-amp, and you should also look at the Denon AVP as a potential comparator.
It's just a personal opinion but Anthem's amps haven't really grabbed me, I find other than their PVA series there's better "values" out there.
I'm a B&O ICEpower "fan-boy", and I run my S8's with their 1000ASP modules and couldn't be happier. If I were starting anew like you I'd have a serious look at Wyred4Sound's Mini MC for the surrounds and three of their 1000ASP based SX1000 monos for the mains.

Timber matching isn't as critical for surrounds as it is for the mains. Just stick to the Studio line and you should be fine. I don't know what level of Audyssey your 755 has, but in general it should also help with timber matching.

Wow, I'm shocked at this and this is damn disapointing for me because I was hoping to add 2 or 3 additional Sub 25's to my setup within the next year. I certainly can't afford to do that going to Sub 2's and the Sub 1's don't interest me because they are not as powerful as the Sub 25. This just sucks.

Didn't the Sub1 replace the Sub 25? They are the exact same price point.

Have you actually looked at the dimensions of some of the those other speakers you mention? Take the B&W HTM2 Diamond for example (13 in x 33.1 in x 15.2 in, 68lbs), it's only marginally smaller, width, depth and weight, than the C5 (9-1/2 in incl. outrigger feet x 37-1/2 in x 17-1/2 in, 81 lbs).

I find that the drastically different shapes of speakers can often give false impressions of size. It's not until you can view them in real life or at least compare specs when you see the true comparisons.

I have 802 Diamonds and the older Paradign Reference Studio 100vs in my system and to look at them apart you would swear the Paradigms had a handful of few inches in heigth over the B&W's but when measured or put side by side they are very close in height. The differences in shape give a sort of optical illusion.

That may be the case now but both were in the lineup for the past few years.

Up until now Paradigm reps every year said not to fear, that the Sub 25 would return again. It was even said straight from Paradigm reps mouths in multiple Sub 25 vs Sub 1 threads that the Sub 25 is considered the slightly better sub over the Sub 1 because of the higher output on 240v and the larger cone/excursion (digs deeper at higher SPL's).

I am guessing that a lot of people were put off by the 240v recommendation for the Sub 25 and thought it easier to go the Sub 1 route. Or maybe people buy the Sub 1 more because it's newer. Or because of its look and/or design. I know my local A/V store stocks a Sub 1 in-stock at all times because they routinely sell one whereas they have only special ordered a handful of Sub 25's and one Sub 2 since their respective release dates.

The Sub 25 is just as good (and slightly better according to some at Paradigm) as the Sub 1 but unfortunately it must not be selling as good as the Sub 1 anymore despite the same price points. Everything comes down to money I suppose. Much the reason a TV as great as the Pioneer Elite slipped away from the market

Hey, thanks!

That is exactly what I am doing - "over-buying" now to leave room for the future...

I am actually only going to be setting up the 7.2 for now, but the other pair of (ADP3 or S2) will be installed, but not connected or functioning - waiting for Anthem to upgrade to 9.2...

Do you really think having 2 Sub 2 is overkill? I was thinking of putting one on each side of the screen; or one in front and one in the rear...

Ok, so...

Anthem:

(1) D2v
(3) M1
(5) P2 or (2) P5

Paradigm:

(2) S8
(1) C5
(2) ADP3
(4) S2
(2) Sub 2

Will this give me the best possible Anthem/Paradigm system available?

You really should consider going non paradigm for your subs. You will get more bang for your dollar that way, besides ending up with better subs.

What are you planning to do with the four S2s? These are large speakers that would not mount easy for heights / wides.

I don't think it makes sense to buy anything more than 7.2 if you're going to get the D2v. Buying for for the future is one thing, but you'd have 2 speakers and an amp completely unused. You're clearly not hurting for cash, but that's still pretty wasteful.

I'd go with:

Anthem:

(1) D2v
(3) M1
*(1) P5

That's 8 channels of amplification, so more than enough for the D2v's 7 channels of processing.

Paradigm:

(2) S8
(1) C5 + stand
(2) ADP3
*(2) S2 + stands
(2) Sub 2

The 2 S2s are for the rear channels. For the theatre design, keep in mind that you're spending about a hundred grand on electronics/drivers, so you want to budget some pretty significant money for the room itself to really get any kind of value out of that much high-end equipment. For instance, you're looking at well in excess of 20,000 watts of peak draw, so you're going to need some serious wiring to drive all of that load. You'd definitely want dedicated 240v lines for the subs and probably dedicated lines for the amps as well.

If/when you decide to go to 9.2 by adding heights, I'd recommend S1s, since they'd be much easier and less awkward-looking to mount high like that. If you wanted wides instead or in addition, I'd probably consider S2s on stands for that. Buying those additional speakers in advance wouldn't be especially useful since they'd just be sitting in a box somewhere until you changed out the D2v. I mean, I guess you could have them pre-installed waiting for some kind of D3v.....

I'm looking for some advice , I currently have a Klipsch setup RF-7ll RC-64 ll RS-62 ll
also (2) HSU VTF-15H Subs UMC-1 - XPA-5

I found a decent deal on a New CC-690 v5 I am thinking about going from Klipsch to Paradigm , I'm wondering if anyone here listened to the CC-690 compared to the RC-64 ll and the 100's v5 compared to the RF-7ll's

Hey,

Would you mind giving me some names and models?

Because every professional/magazine review of the Sub 2 that I have read so far basically stated that it was the best sub they have reviewed - and several said that the Sub 2 was now their new reference sub...

I have not read any professional reviews where the reviewer stated that what they were reviewing was better than the Sub 2...

That doesn't mean that there are not better subs for less money out there...

I just don't know of any...

Yes, this is a new home construction so we are planning on going with 240V, 20A - instead of the usual 120V, 15A lines for the home theater room for the subs and amplifiers.

Well if paradigm paid me the same as the review magazine, I'll say the sub 2 is the best sub ive ever tested too. Clearly, magazines don't make the law, do they? Its all marketing ********.

Go visit the subwoofer section of the forum... Tell them your expectations and you will get the best recommendations. Hell, tell them you want the highest spl and include your room demensions for them and money is realistically no object.