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post #25201 of 30062
Can anyone who's heard both compared the milleniaones and the studio series comment on the quality/match between them?

Im moving into a situation where nothing but very small satellites are going to be acceptable for the surrounds. I tried out a paid of energy V-Minis, which are decent speakers in their own right, but the quality difference between them and the studios is pretty apparent. I've read somewhere that the milleniaones use the same tweeter as the studios....is this true? How low can these reasonably be expected to extend from about 2-4 feet away?
post #25202 of 30062
Would the Paradigm Studios 10 and 20 be better for music and good bass, than say the Focal 806V and 807V Chorus series?
post #25203 of 30062
Any online retailer suggestions whether I can buy a Center 3? How negotiable its price on these?

I have a cc-350 currently paired with monitor 9'a and mini monitors. These are all 13 years old and I think its time to start upgrading my system, piece by piece, starting with the Center.

I'm a value player, period. I want the best sound for the least money. If I could find an open box or clearance sale, I'd jump all over that but in the absence if that I'll just start replacing one piece at a time.

Just bought an Onkyo 818, and a Panasonic p60gt50 btw, which its partly what motivated me here.

I'd appreciate any suggestions.

Thanks guys,
Jason

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post #25204 of 30062
Very few Paradigm speakers can be sold online. The Cinema series is one of them, but I doubt the Center 3 is allowed. Any site which sells the higher level speakers online (now that the 6th Ave fiasco is settled) is grey market stuff. Next to just not having enough money to buy Paradigms for all my surrounds, having only one dealer close to me (who sells at full price - no discount) is the other reason I did not buy them...I cannot buy them online and get the warranty and I am not paying MSRP for them.
post #25205 of 30062
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Originally Posted by jason370 View Post

Any online retailer suggestions whether I can buy a Center 3? How negotiable its price on these?
I have a cc-350 currently paired with monitor 9'a and mini monitors. These are all 13 years old and I think its time to start upgrading my system, piece by piece, starting with the Center.
I'm a value player, period. I want the best sound for the least money. If I could find an open box or clearance sale, I'd jump all over that but in the absence if that I'll just start replacing one piece at a time.
Just bought an Onkyo 818, and a Panasonic p60gt50 btw, which its partly what motivated me here.
I'd appreciate any suggestions.
Thanks guys,
Jason
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If I need to know some ballpark prices of Paradigm speakers before negotiating with my closest dealer, I visit "East Hamilton Radio" web site (trusted store and web site). it's Canadian store so prices are in Canadian dollars. Here is the link to Paradigm center channel speakers they currently sell with prices.
post #25206 of 30062
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Originally Posted by RandyDee View Post

If I need to know some ballpark prices of Paradigm speakers before negotiating with my closest dealer, I visit "East Hamilton Radio" web site (trusted store and web site). it's Canadian store so prices are in Canadian dollars. Here is the link to Paradigm center channel speakers they currently sell with prices.

their prices aren't even good, those are full retail prices!. In my experience some dealers won't budget on the price they'll knock off a $100 dollars and that's it! some will discount a lot more. In my area they use to discount them a lot better then they are now, only competition retired, so for example they have the MilleniaOne on SALE for $1250CDN and that's now the final price, no movement on it at all, same store a few months ago were selling them for $1000. If you can buy them in a town that has multiple dealers you should be able to use that and get a much better price, as they'll be competing for your business. In my area now that we only have 1 true home theatre store they've got an attitude now when before serves was faster and prices were better.
post #25207 of 30062
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Originally Posted by bd2003 View Post

Can anyone who's heard both compared the milleniaones and the studio series comment on the quality/match between them?
Im moving into a situation where nothing but very small satellites are going to be acceptable for the surrounds. I tried out a paid of energy V-Minis, which are decent speakers in their own right, but the quality difference between them and the studios is pretty apparent. I've read somewhere that the milleniaones use the same tweeter as the studios....is this true? How low can these reasonably be expected to extend from about 2-4 feet away?
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I have the Studio 10v5's , 490CC and two Millenia Ones as rears and they seem to work pretty darn good. This is for a smaller bedroom
post #25208 of 30062
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Originally Posted by jason370 View Post

Any online retailer suggestions whether I can buy a Center 3? How negotiable its price on these?
I have a cc-350 currently paired with monitor 9'a and mini monitors. These are all 13 years old and I think its time to start upgrading my system, piece by piece, starting with the Center.
I'm a value player, period. I want the best sound for the least money. If I could find an open box or clearance sale, I'd jump all over that but in the absence if that I'll just start replacing one piece at a time.
Just bought an Onkyo 818, and a Panasonic p60gt50 btw, which its partly what motivated me here.
I'd appreciate any suggestions.
Thanks guys,
Jason
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You will not be able to buy from an official dealer online (unless you are in the dealers territory). Paradigm will not allow it.

In terms of pricing, you should be able to get 15% off list price without too much struggle. If the delaer isn't playing ball, there are plenty more elsewhere. Try the parts of the country where there are lots of dealers....NJ/NY/PA for example where I am. I played dealers off each other. It can easily be done.
post #25209 of 30062
I have the Paradigm DSP-3400 and DSP-3200 subwoofers....would it be a mistake to incorporate a SVS PB13-Ultra into my home theater?? I know not mixing subs is not supposed to be done but I feel like I am missing some deep bass and want the SVS Ultra! smile.gif
Anyone with experience mixing subs? Do or dont?
post #25210 of 30062
Just wondering, how does the CC690 compare to the C3? I have the choice of either way for about the same price point. Are they alot more similar than different? Besides the tweeter of course. I have read alot of people say that the CC690 is a heck of alot better than the CC590.

Thanks smile.gif
post #25211 of 30062
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Originally Posted by 04rex View Post

Just wondering, how does the CC690 compare to the C3? I have the choice of either way for about the same price point. Are they alot more similar than different? Besides the tweeter of course. I have read alot of people say that the CC690 is a heck of alot better than the CC590.
Thanks smile.gif

I have no experience with the CC690, but my Center 3 arrives later this week. I will be setting that up along with my new Surround 3's and rerunning Audyssey, so I can give you my thoughts on the C 3 vs the 14ish yr old LCR350 that I'm replacing. I think some one on this forum went from a CC690 to a Center 3, he might chime in.

Jeff
post #25212 of 30062
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Originally Posted by pronghorn/az View Post

I have no experience with the CC690, but my Center 3 arrives later this week. I will be setting that up along with my new Surround 3's and rerunning Audyssey, so I can give you my thoughts on the C 3 vs the 14ish yr old LCR350 that I'm replacing. I think some one on this forum went from a CC690 to a Center 3, he might chime in.
Jeff

I think he is referring to the signature series C3 vs. CC690.
post #25213 of 30062
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Originally Posted by pronghorn/az View Post

I have no experience with the CC690, but my Center 3 arrives later this week. I will be setting that up along with my new Surround 3's and rerunning Audyssey, so I can give you my thoughts on the C 3 vs the 14ish yr old LCR350 that I'm replacing. I think some one on this forum went from a CC690 to a Center 3, he might chime in.
Jeff

Thanks for the reply, but i probably should have been more clear. I am referring to the Signature C3. I am wondering and trying to compare the Studio CC690 to the Signature C3. I have an opportunity to get these for pretty much the same price.

Thanks.

You are correct Tank.
post #25214 of 30062
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Originally Posted by spiderv6 View Post

You will not be able to buy from an official dealer online (unless you are in the dealers territory). Paradigm will not allow it.
In terms of pricing, you should be able to get 15% off list price without too much struggle. If the delaer isn't playing ball, there are plenty more elsewhere. Try the parts of the country where there are lots of dealers....NJ/NY/PA for example where I am. I played dealers off each other. It can easily be done.

There is often a dealer minimum price on brands like this. I know Panasonic has the same on their higher-end TVs, which prevents the price from falling as rapidly as the lower models.
post #25215 of 30062
After a lot of research, I am looking to purchase a pair of Paradigm S1 speakers for my desktop. They are the perfect size for my setup and the reviews I've read are all very positive.

What is the latest version? From reading online it appears that V3 is the current version.

Can someone recommend a good dealer to work with?
post #25216 of 30062
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Originally Posted by drewTT View Post

After a lot of research, I am looking to purchase a pair of Paradigm S1 speakers for my desktop. They are the perfect size for my setup and the reviews I've read are all very positive.
What is the latest version? From reading online it appears that V3 is the current version.
Can someone recommend a good dealer to work with?

V3 is the latest version. Though are you sure you want a passive speaker for your desktop? Have you looked into studio monitors? They will have better focus for near field listening. The Focal Solo 6 features a Be tweeter and is similar in price to the S1.
http://www.focalprofessional.com/en/sm6-line/solo6-be.php
post #25217 of 30062
Yes, sure have. I have read that the Focal's are too "clinical" sounding for everyday music listening. I have no intentions of mixing audio.

In this Paradigm S1 review, the reviewer seems to think the S1s are good for nearfield:

http://www.soundstage.com/revequip/paradigm_signature_s1_v2.htm
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Many speakers priced much higher can’t match the midrange and high-frequency transparency and detail of these little fellas. In fact, I have no doubt that the S1 v.2 could be a great nearfield monitor; perhaps Paradigm should offer gun-metal gray or unfinished aluminum for recording studios.
post #25218 of 30062
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Originally Posted by drewTT View Post

Yes, sure have. I have read that the Focal's are too "clinical" sounding for everyday music listening. I have no intentions of mixing audio.
In this Paradigm S1 review, the reviewer seems to think the S1s are good for nearfield:
http://www.soundstage.com/revequip/paradigm_signature_s1_v2.htm
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Many speakers priced much higher can’t match the midrange and high-frequency transparency and detail of these little fellas. In fact, I have no doubt that the S1 v.2 could be a great nearfield monitor; perhaps Paradigm should offer gun-metal gray or unfinished aluminum for recording studios.

Studio monitors usually have a flat response, neutral sound to let the source play true. In my experience the signature series speakers are the same, very neutral --they let the source material shine or fall flat on its face. Just wanted to make sure you considered the Solo6s since they come with powerful built-in amps, better frequency response and are similar in price.
post #25219 of 30062
I hear ya. It's a tough call, really. I am looking at Parasound A23 and Paradigm S1 combo. The Focals would actually be cheaper but also quite a bit larger and deeper. I am not sure what would sound better.
post #25220 of 30062
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Originally Posted by drewTT View Post

I hear ya. It's a tough call, really. I am looking at Parasound A23 and Paradigm S1 combo. The Focals would actually be cheaper but also quite a bit larger and deeper. I am not sure what would sound better.

I think that would be a very nice setup. I have heard good things about the Paradigm / Parasound Halo pairing. I have the S2 in a bedroom stereo --they are a bit large for the size of the room, the S1 would have been a better fit.
post #25221 of 30062
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Originally Posted by 04rex View Post

Just wondering, how does the CC690 compare to the C3? I have the choice of either way for about the same price point. Are they alot more similar than different? Besides the tweeter of course. I have read alot of people say that the CC690 is a heck of alot better than the CC590.
Thanks smile.gif

What L and R speakers are you using? The Center should be matched to the L and R. I used a CC 690 with my Studio 100s and loved them. After I moved to Sigs. I used a C5 and loved it.

I believe Paradigm lists matching speaker info on their site.
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Well I'm either going to go with the Studio 100 or Signature S6. I am choosing my center first because 90% of my usage is bluray/movies/television.
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Anyone using Atoms for mains? I'm doing just that in a makeshift surround system in our basement. Surprisingly, they sound really good, and not really lacking at all. I'm currently using a pair or in-wall JBLs for surrounds and an older Velodyne CHT-10 sub. Onkyo Tx-SR700 powering everything. It's not ideal, but working for now.

Anyone have any center recommendations? I'll probably replace the JBL inwalls with a pair of ADP-390s I already have.

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Originally Posted by 04rex View Post

Well I'm either going to go with the Studio 100 or Signature S6. I am choosing my center first because 90% of my usage is bluray/movies/television.

The thing I've noticed since owning the C3|S6 (and a Panasonic VT30) is that the source matters. The times I've been satisfied with picture / audio, it has consistently been the source material. I would get hung up on something not looking or sounding very good. Changed to a different movie / song / cable stations and suddenly there is a huge improvement.
post #25225 of 30062
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Originally Posted by Tank_PD View Post

The thing I've noticed since owning the C3|S6 (and a Panasonic VT30) is that the source matters. The times I've been satisfied with picture / audio, it has consistently been the source material. I would get hung up on something not looking or sounding very good. Changed to a different movie / song / cable stations and suddenly there is a huge improvement.

I agree 100%. Do you have any experience between the 690 and C3? Your setup is what I want if it is worth it compared to the 100s and 690.

Do you have any pics? What is the rest of your system?
post #25226 of 30062
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Originally Posted by 04rex View Post


I agree 100%. Do you have any experience between the 690 and C3? Your setup is what I want if it is worth it compared to the 100s and 690.
Do you have any pics? What is the rest of your system?

Just go for the C5 and you'll be happy. I've owned the 690 v5, C3 v3 and now have the C5 V3, it's the best one out of the three.

post #25227 of 30062
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Originally Posted by 04rex View Post

I agree 100%. Do you have any experience between the 690 and C3? Your setup is what I want if it is worth it compared to the 100s and 690.
Do you have any pics? What is the rest of your system?

I have not heard the 690, only the C3. I have heard the 100s and decided to go with the S6. Rest of the system is a pair of ADPs for the surrounds and a SUB 1 as the subwoofer.

Here is an older picture when I first got everything set up.
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Hey Tank, that's sweet!
post #25229 of 30062
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Originally Posted by drewTT View Post

Yes, sure have. I have read that the Focal's are too "clinical" sounding for everyday music listening. I have no intentions of mixing audio.

In this Paradigm S1 review, the reviewer seems to think the S1s are good for nearfield:

http://www.soundstage.com/revequip/paradigm_signature_s1_v2.htm
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Many speakers priced much higher can’t match the midrange and high-frequency transparency and detail of these little fellas. In fact, I have no doubt that the S1 v.2 could be a great nearfield monitor; perhaps Paradigm should offer gun-metal gray or unfinished aluminum for recording studios.

Allow me to chime in on Signature vs. Focal Be series comparison although my experience was with S2 vs. Focal Electra 1008 Be. Probably not a very fair comparison as S2 is about $3200 and 1008 Be is $5000. Anyway, S2 midrange and highs were one big step above the Studio series esp. when it comes to music. The clarity, focus and details are as good as it gets for that price point. But compared with higher price 1008 Be, it falls a little short at musicality and refinements. S2 top end, to me, exhibits very small traits of metallic sound but Focal Be tweeter sounds more natural and musical as a whole. But Paradigm Signatures can punch against higher price speakers and won't embarrassed themselves one bit. Only my 0.02c.

I auditioned S2, Dynaudio Contour 1.4s and Focal Electra 1008 Be, eventually choosing Focal (helped by a good deal I was offered) and Paradigm J-23 stands. smile.gif I paired them with Paradigm Studio Sub 12 and very happy with the results.
post #25230 of 30062
Difference between CC-490 and Studio 20... and CC-590 and Studio 60. I currently have a CC-490, Studio 20's (LR) and Studio 10's surrounds for my system. I love this set up, but it was a big step up for me. I wondered if anyone had compared the 490/20's to the 590/60's, as I'm considering this for my main listening area (19' X 15' X 10' Ceiling)... and moving my 490/20's to my study/getaway room. I would appreciate any thoughts on whether the Studio CC-590 and 60 combination is noticeablely/significantly better than the Studio CC-490 and 20 combination.
Edited by Anhydro - 7/16/12 at 9:02am
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