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post #26071 of 30056
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Originally Posted by CougarCruiser View Post

Question....
I am looking at a CC-690 Center for a new setup. However, I am dealing with a 'cubby' on my mantle that may or may not be big enough.
The cubby is 42'' wide, and 12'' tall. It's only 9 inches deep, but the mantle is an additional 11 inches.
Online, the paradigm side says the cc-690 is 38ish inches wide (fits fine), and just shy of 10'' high (should fit fine). My question for folks is that I have the right amount of depth (says 16'') -- but I know there are rear ports. I would probably plug these ports.
Do you guys think the cc-690 will fit, and I can get away with plugging those back ports?
If the 11" mantle's surface is flush withe the 9" cubby you should have enough room if you place the 690 toward the front edge of the mantle. I would not plug the ports. With the front of the 690 even with the front edge of the mantle you would have approx. 4" space behind the ports and that should be enough.
post #26072 of 30056
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Originally Posted by tboe77 View Post

I'm also getting a quote on that same list of speakers tomorrow. I'm in Canada, so I'd like to compare prices between here and the U.S. I doubt we're getting a better deal, despite our currencies being roughly at par, and Paradigm being a Canadian company.

This is the quote I got over the phone with price shown for the two compatible centers and two different stands. He told me if I come into the office, he'll give me a deal.

Studio 20 Fronts $1500/pair
Studio CC-490 $900
Studio CC-590 $1300
Studio ADP-590 $1800
4x J-29 $1000 total
4x M-25 stands $320 total

$5200 (with 490 center) $5600 (with 590 center) w/ J-29 stands
$4500 (with 490 center)$4900 (with 590 center) w/M-25 stands

This is a bit much for me. I'm just looking to replace my crappy HTIB speakers. Already got an SVU pp-1000 sub to replace the HTIB sub and a Denon AVR-2313CI receiver to power the new speakers. But ya, I think going from HTIB to $4000+ speaker set is a pretty big jump.
Edited by icroyal - 12/14/12 at 1:06pm
post #26073 of 30056
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Originally Posted by icroyal View Post

This is the quote I got over the phone with price shown for the two compatible centers and two different stands. He told me if I come into the office, he'll give me a deal.
Studio 20 Fronts $1500/pair
Studio CC-490 $900
Studio CC-590 $1300
Studio ADP-590 $1800
4x J-29 $1000 total
4x M-25 stands $320 total
$5200 (with 490 center) $5600 (with 590 center) w/ J-29 stands
$4500 (with 490 center)$4900 (with 590 center) w/M-25 stands
This is a bit much for me. I'm just looking to replace my crappy HTIB speakers. Already got an SVU pp-1000 sub to replace the HTIB sub and a Denon AVR-2313CI receiver to power the new speakers. But ya, I think going from HTIB to $4000+ speaker set is a pretty big jump.

The prices are about dead on at my local Paradigm dealer. You can always try to buy used.
post #26074 of 30056
@icroyal. Have you looked into the Monitor line? Mid level Paradigm speakers that sound great.
post #26075 of 30056
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Originally Posted by CHASLS2 View Post

The prices are about dead on at my local Paradigm dealer. You can always try to buy used.

You don't know how much I'm regretting not buying the used (but flawless) Studio 20s that sold on ebay for $720 last night.
post #26076 of 30056
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Originally Posted by bowmah View Post

@icroyal. Have you looked into the Monitor line? Mid level Paradigm speakers that sound great.

I'll look into that. Thanks!
post #26077 of 30056
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Originally Posted by icroyal View Post

I'll look into that. Thanks!

Since you are, here are just a few suggestions. Hope its ok, this thread has turned into a top of the line Paradign speaker discussion so lets go.

You mentioned you have a sub so save money and use that for now. The Monitor 7 seems to be a favorite with many who listen to music and watch movies. To save money, I think the Atoms will do nicely for your rears. If you can buy the more expensive center. This is the biggest regret for those who have regrets about the home theater purchase.

Here you go: http://paradigm.com/products/products-by-series/monitor-speakers

Good luck and let us know how it works out!
post #26078 of 30056
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Originally Posted by icroyal View Post

I'll look into that. Thanks!
I upgraded from a Polk htib to a monitor setup. I have been very pleased and have no regrets. Now if my pockets were deeper, maybe I would have stepped up to the studio series or better, but budget is always the determining factor in this hobby. Also, there will always be a bigger badder something out there. Set your budget, go listen to speakers in your range and take home YOUR dream setup.
post #26079 of 30056
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Originally Posted by pappaduke View Post

Set your budget, go listen to speakers in your range and take home YOUR dream setup.

Can't agree more. Researching and auditioning is half the fun so go listen to lots of setups. There is a point where you figure out what you like and willing to dish out. It's a fun journey!
post #26080 of 30056
Thanks for the suggestions guys. I'm going to get a quote from them this weekend for the following as well as go in and listen.

Mini Monitor Fronts
Center 3
Surround 1 / Surround 3 / Atom Rears

Again, I'm upgrading from HTIB so anything really will be a massive upgrade. I think going to Monitor Series for now and maybe in the years to come I'll upgrade to the Studio series.
post #26081 of 30056
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Originally Posted by icroyal View Post

Thanks for the suggestions guys. I'm going to get a quote from them this weekend for the following as well as go in and listen.
Mini Monitor Fronts
Center 3
Surround 1 / Surround 3 / Atom Rears
Again, I'm upgrading from HTIB so anything really will be a massive upgrade. I think going to Monitor Series for now and maybe in the years to come I'll upgrade to the Studio series.

Not even sure exactly how much these are since I have been out of the market for so long but some people prefer atoms / minis in the rear and not dipoles. You should really go and audition more. Bring your favorite CD and DVD / Blu-Ray, content that you know well so you can see how the system performs. The ahha moment is when you hear things that you have never heard before. Coming from a HTIB, there will be many of those. I envy you lol

btw, you may not want to upgrade this setup. In my opinion, to get significantly "better" sound / sound stage, you need to spend exponentially more money. I personally think the monitor line is the sweet spot (price point vs performance) in the home theater arena.

Then make sure your receive has Audyssey so you can tweak things properly. Makes a big difference from my experience when a system is setup "properly" versus just what we think it should be.
post #26082 of 30056
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Originally Posted by bowmah View Post

Not even sure exactly how much these are since I have been out of the market for so long but some people prefer atoms / minis in the rear and not dipoles. You should really go and audition more. Bring your favorite CD and DVD / Blu-Ray, content that you know well so you can see how the system performs. The ahha moment is when you hear things that you have never heard before. Coming from a HTIB, there will be many of those. I envy you lol
btw, you may not want to upgrade this setup. In my opinion, to get significantly "better" sound / sound stage, you need to spend exponentially more money. I personally think the monitor line is the sweet spot (price point vs performance) in the home theater arena.
Then make sure your receive has Audyssey so you can tweak things properly. Makes a big difference from my experience when a system is setup "properly" versus just what we think it should be.

Found out today that the Paradigm Dealer near me doesn't have monitors for display. They only have Studio floorstands and not even the Studio bookshelves on display. So if I went with the monitor line, it'd be by faith. Either way, I'll be sure to demo the Studios again just to get an idea of Paradigm sound and be sure to test dipoles and other rears to see what I like. Thing is, I'm not really picky and anything again would be an upgrade from my HTIB. I do have a Denon 2313ci and have run Audyssey on it and it does indeed make a different so I'd be sure to do that with the new speaker line I get.
post #26083 of 30056
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Originally Posted by icroyal View Post

This is the quote I got over the phone with price shown for the two compatible centers and two different stands. He told me if I come into the office, he'll give me a deal.
Studio 20 Fronts $1500/pair
Studio CC-490 $900
Studio CC-590 $1300
Studio ADP-590 $1800
4x J-29 $1000 total
4x M-25 stands $320 total
$5200 (with 490 center) $5600 (with 590 center) w/ J-29 stands
$4500 (with 490 center)$4900 (with 590 center) w/M-25 stands
This is a bit much for me. I'm just looking to replace my crappy HTIB speakers. Already got an SVU pp-1000 sub to replace the HTIB sub and a Denon AVR-2313CI receiver to power the new speakers. But ya, I think going from HTIB to $4000+ speaker set is a pretty big jump.

You might try the used market. I'm currently in the process of upgrading from Monitor to Studio series speakers. I bought the monitors new (my first venture beyond HTiB), but this time I'm buying used. Today, I bought a Studio CC-490 v5 for $500 and I've got another deal lined up for a pair of v4 Studio 20s for$450.

Studio sound at Monitor prices!
post #26084 of 30056
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Originally Posted by icroyal View Post

You don't know how much I'm regretting not buying the used (but flawless) Studio 20s that sold on ebay for $720 last night.

OUCH! If they were v5's i would have jumped on them.
post #26085 of 30056
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Originally Posted by tboe77 View Post

You might try the used market. I'm currently in the process of upgrading from Monitor to Studio series speakers. I bought the monitors new (my first venture beyond HTiB), but this time I'm buying used. Today, I bought a Studio CC-490 v5 for $500 and I've got another deal lined up for a pair of v4 Studio 20s for$450.
Studio sound at Monitor prices!
In addition the new (to me) speakers, I also pulled the trigger today on an Emotiva XPA-5.

I was going to wait and drive the Studios with my Denon 3808CI for a while, and then decide whether or not to get a separate power amp, but now I've got upgrade fever, and the current sale price on the Emotiva is the lowest I've ever seen at $769.

I'm so pumped!
post #26086 of 30056
I just bought the Denon 2313CI a few days ago. Do you guys think it would be enough to power the Studio/Monitor line or should I have spent a little more for the 3313CI?
post #26087 of 30056
I currently am running a Paradigm DSP 3400 and finally got it evened out by using Paradigm's PBK software. I really like the way this combination worked and it really tamed the sub's responsiveness in my difficult room. I am thinking of adding a second sub but I have placement constraints and was hoping I could get opinions on using a Milleniasub as that second sub or is this unit just a toy or weak?. I want to stick with Paradigm because the PBK worked so well.
My AVR is a Pioneer Elite SC-67 with 2 sub outs.
Thanks
Edited by pgaiduk - Today at 12:28 pm
post #26088 of 30056
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Originally Posted by icroyal View Post

I just bought the Denon 2313CI a few days ago. Do you guys think it would be enough to power the Studio/Monitor line or should I have spent a little more for the 3313CI?

I would say it works. Give it a try?
post #26089 of 30056
Well, just bought the speakers today. Guy at the store gave me a pretty good discount. Studio 20 Fronts, CC-590 Center (will have to mount my TV to put the center on the top of my stand), and Atom Rears. The Paradigm dealer here allows 100% trade-ins within 1 year so what I'll most likely do is get the Studio Di-Poles within a year and trade-in the atoms.
post #26090 of 30056
Just got my speakers a couple days ago. Still have nothing to push them. My theatre is in the works. Studio 100v5 and the cc690v5 so far anyway. smile.gif
post #26091 of 30056
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Originally Posted by pgaiduk View Post

I currently am running a Paradigm DSP 3400 and finally got it evened out by using Paradigm's PBK software. I really like the way this combination worked and it really tamed the sub's responsiveness in my difficult room. I am thinking of adding a second sub but I have placement constraints and was hoping I could get opinions on using a Milleniasub as that second sub or is this unit just a toy or weak?. I want to stick with Paradigm because the PBK worked so well.
My AVR is a Pioneer Elite SC-67 with 2 sub outs.
Thanks
Edited by pgaiduk - Today at 12:28 pm
I haven't heard this sub (or that many in general to be honest) but my home theater guy said that are pretty good for what they are. Take that for what it's worth.
post #26092 of 30056
I have a pair of Paradigm 5SE v3 I would like to use for a while as fronts in my small family room. I always loved these for music. The receiver is a Denon 1713.

I have a CC-170 center between a pair of Titan v3 and rear Atoms in the office and I want to leave that set intact.
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I would really like to get a decent center channel speaker for the SEs but I don't want to overspend at this time either. I think the cc-300 was the original match but that is only available used.

Any suggestions for a Paradigm or non-Paradigm center would be appreciated.
post #26093 of 30056
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Originally Posted by DGCanuck View Post

I have a pair of Paradigm 5SE v3 I would like to use for a while as fronts in my small family room. I always loved these for music. The receiver is a Denon 1713.
I have a CC-170 center between a pair of Titan v3 and rear Atoms in the office and I want to leave that set intact.
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I would really like to get a decent center channel speaker for the SEs but I don't want to overspend at this time either. I think the cc-300 was the original match but that is only available used.
Any suggestions for a Paradigm or non-Paradigm center would be appreciated.

Try and setup a 7.1 setup with your 5SE as fronts? smile.gif
post #26094 of 30056
Can anyone tell me at what frequency the 3 woofers on the studio 100 v5 kick in? The reason why I ask is I have a friend who is getting a studio setup but he is debating between studio 20s and the 100s. He is going be using the 690 center channel. He will be crossing over at 80hz and will be using it 90% for home theater and gaming. He is going to be getting a Rythmik fv15hp regardless of which speaker he goes with. I figure the studio 20s are basically the 100s chopped off before the woofers. I figure he can save about 2000 if the sub will replace the 3 woofers in the studio 100.
post #26095 of 30056
http://paradigm.com/products/products-by-category/floorstanding/paradigm-reference/studio-series/studio-100

The crossover to the bass drivers is at 300Hz.

You are figuring wrong. The Studio 20s are -2db @54Hz and bottome (-6db?) @ 36Hz
(http://paradigm.com/products/products-by-category/bookshelf/paradigm-reference/studio-series/studio-20)

That said: I see no advantage of a 100+sub over a 20+sub.
post #26096 of 30056
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Originally Posted by JerryLove View Post

http://paradigm.com/products/products-by-category/floorstanding/paradigm-reference/studio-series/studio-100
The crossover to the bass drivers is at 300Hz.
You are figuring wrong. The Studio 20s are -2db @54Hz and bottome (-6db?) @ 36Hz
(http://paradigm.com/products/products-by-category/bookshelf/paradigm-reference/studio-series/studio-20)
That said: I see no advantage of a 100+sub over a 20+sub.

-3db, All of Paradigm's speakers are rated to -3db extension.

"Low-Frequency Extension* 36 Hz (DIN)"
"* DIN 45 500. Indicates -3 dB in a typical listening room."
post #26097 of 30056
I received a second-hand Studio CC-490 that I purchased via a buy-sell-trade site here, in Canada. It seemed fairly well packed, but not in the original box, nor with original packing materials. It was wrapped in bubble wrap and the box was filled with foam peanuts. There was no visible damage to the exterior of the box, but when I unwrapped it I found that the grill had snapped off, breaking all 8 pins. There is also some cosmetic damage to one corner of the cabinet, but this would barely be noticeable with the grill in place. A real bummer! It was shipped via Greyhound. There does not appear to be any damage to the drivers, but I haven't had a chance to hook it up and have a listen yet.
post #26098 of 30056
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Originally Posted by keith k View Post

Just got my speakers a couple days ago. Still have nothing to push them. My theatre is in the works. Studio 100v5 and the cc690v5 so far anyway. smile.gif

Well, at least they look really nice. wink.gif
post #26099 of 30056
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Originally Posted by keith k View Post

Just got my speakers a couple days ago. Still have nothing to push them. My theatre is in the works. Studio 100v5 and the cc690v5 so far anyway. smile.gif

Are you planning on using Anthem electronics?
post #26100 of 30056
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Try and setup a 7.1 setup with your 5SE as fronts?

The denon 1713 is a 5.1 channel receiver and I would use the 5SEs as fronts. I was looking for recommendations for a center to work with them, either Paradigm or another that others may have experience with. So far, I heard the new Center 1 would work well but there is no store front nearby that I could demo one.
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