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post #26191 of 30086
I don't know the part #, but if you contact Paradigm and tell them that you need replacement wall-mount brackets (or "hanger brackets", as they're referred to in the owner's manual) for those speakers, they'll know what to send you.
Edited by eljaycanuck - 12/28/12 at 10:46am
post #26192 of 30086
Hey guys,

Taking a new direction with my theater room. So, besides my Sig S8's still being for sale (even though the price is RIDICULOUS), I also have my pair of Monitor Surround 3's (series 7) listed for sale now, too.
post #26193 of 30086
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Originally Posted by BigCoolJesus View Post

Hey guys,
Taking a new direction with my theater room. So, besides my Sig S8's still being for sale (even though the price is RIDICULOUS), I also have my pair of Monitor Surround 3's (series 7) listed for sale now, too.

Just curious, what speaker brand are you moving to?
post #26194 of 30086
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Originally Posted by Rod#S View Post

Just curious, what speaker brand are you moving to?

Think he is going to Klipsh. I did the reverse, started out with only Klipsch and had just about all the RF line. I can't see beating the Sig8's with Klipsch. If i were to go back to Klipsch i would go with the RF7ll's and RC64ll center.
post #26195 of 30086
So I'm looking for a little adive. I've been out of the speaker world for about 10 years.
I'm thinking about possibly updating my current set up. I've got Studio 100s, a Studio CC, and 4 Studio 20s, all v2.

My question are as follows.
Is there any chance my speakers have degraded over time or will in the future? I heard the rubber baffling tends to go over time, but I wasn't sure if that was the case with my speakers.

I've been thinking of upgrading my speakers to v5. Is there a huge leap in quality/performance from the v2 to the v5?

Instead of upgrading my speakers, I could look at upgrading my amp instead. I currently have a 7 ch. Sherbourn amp, 200 WPC. Any thoughts?

Obviously, I plan on listening to the speakers myself but I thought I would start here. Anybody know of any dealers in southeastern Michigan? I bought my last set in Windsor, Ontario but I the exchange rate was much more favorable then.

Thanks!
post #26196 of 30086
Newer Studios will likely have a (slightly?) different sound, but not necessarily a better sound. Have you noticed a problem with your current speakers, or is there something about their sound that you just don't like anymore? Or are you suffering from upgrade-itis? wink.gif

Re. the amp: 200W/ch. is plenty of power. If it's working well, don't bother replacing it.
post #26197 of 30086
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Originally Posted by CHASLS2 View Post

Think he is going to Klipsh. I did the reverse, started out with only Klipsch and had just about all the RF line. I can't see beating the Sig8's with Klipsch. If i were to go back to Klipsch i would go with the RF7ll's and RC64ll center.

Yea, going Klipsch. Though, to be honest right off the bat I AM NOT trying to replace or beat the Sig 8's. Those I had to sell no matter what due to money issues. The decision came down to Monitor 11's/Center 3 vs. Klipsch RF-82 II's/RC-64 II
I decided that, for my room of 100% movie use, the high sensitivity and compression driver horns of the Klipsch's would be the better route to take. If I listened to any bit of music, I would most likely had stuck with Paradigm.

I will still have my Sub 25, so I am not leaving the Paradigm line-up completely cool.gif
post #26198 of 30086
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Originally Posted by BigCoolJesus View Post

Yea, going Klipsch. Though, to be honest right off the bat I AM NOT trying to replace or beat the Sig 8's. Those I had to sell no matter what due to money issues. The decision came down to Monitor 11's/Center 3 vs. Klipsch RF-82 II's/RC-64 II
I decided that, for my room of 100% movie use, the high sensitivity and compression driver horns of the Klipsch's would be the better route to take. If I listened to any bit of music, I would most likely had stuck with Paradigm.
I will still have my Sub 25, so I am not leaving the Paradigm line-up completely cool.gif

I had the older RF82's and they did pretty good. Finding some used older RF7's are even better.
post #26199 of 30086
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Originally Posted by BigCoolJesus View Post

Yea, going Klipsch. Though, to be honest right off the bat I AM NOT trying to replace or beat the Sig 8's. Those I had to sell no matter what due to money issues. The decision came down to Monitor 11's/Center 3 vs. Klipsch RF-82 II's/RC-64 II
I decided that, for my room of 100% movie use, the high sensitivity and compression driver horns of the Klipsch's would be the better route to take. If I listened to any bit of music, I would most likely had stuck with Paradigm.
I will still have my Sub 25, so I am not leaving the Paradigm line-up completely cool.gif

I have a friend with a Klipsch Reference setup with either the Paradigm Sub 12 or 15 and he likes it a lot, he is a big fan of the sound of the tweeters. Going with Klipsch from Paradigm seems like a very good lateral move. The Paradigm Signatures would probably be a bit more diverese if you were more into music but like you say, at 100% movie use they should prove a great choice.

The Paradigm subs are hard to get rid of, I still have all 3 of mine with no immediate plans to replace them. Even after having my Servo 15a's for like 10 years they are still going strong and my Sub 25 is excellent working as my LFE sub.
post #26200 of 30086
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Originally Posted by james138 View Post

So I'm looking for a little adive. I've been out of the speaker world for about 10 years.
I'm thinking about possibly updating my current set up. I've got Studio 100s, a Studio CC, and 4 Studio 20s, all v2.
My question are as follows.
Is there any chance my speakers have degraded over time or will in the future? I heard the rubber baffling tends to go over time, but I wasn't sure if that was the case with my speakers.
I've been thinking of upgrading my speakers to v5. Is there a huge leap in quality/performance from the v2 to the v5?
Instead of upgrading my speakers, I could look at upgrading my amp instead. I currently have a 7 ch. Sherbourn amp, 200 WPC. Any thoughts?
Obviously, I plan on listening to the speakers myself but I thought I would start here. Anybody know of any dealers in southeastern Michigan? I bought my last set in Windsor, Ontario but I the exchange rate was much more favorable then.
Thanks!

I had run a complete v2 setup for years and just started replacing the speakers just under 2 years ago. I was running 100's, CC, 60's and ADP's and dual Servo 15a's. I'm still using the 100's for surrounds and the two 15a's are my stereo subs. Parts do degrade over time but having had my 100's, since 2002 they are showing no signs of reliability issues. I also bought my CC and ADP's and one Servo 15 in 2002 with the 100's and added the Studio 60's and second Servo 15a in 2003 I think. Both the Servo's are still going strong and so were the CC, ADP's and 60's when I boxed them up and put them in storage a little less than two years ago.

The v5's do have a different sound and in all honestly I'm not sure which sound I prefer, the v2 or the v5. Having had the v2's for so long maybe I just have a soft spot for them smile.gif As to quality it's hard to say, the old v2's were built quite well although I do now find their boxy nature out dated. The v5's just look more elegant to me.

I would do some auditioning of different speakers to see if you find your current setup lacking in any areas when compared to the others you audition. Speakers make the most impact as to what we hear with the receiver, SSP and amps effecting what we hear to a lesser degree. So with that in mind I would first focus on the speakers then the amp
post #26201 of 30086
Thanks guys, my speakers sound great to me. To be honest the only reason I was thinking about buying new speakers is because I have the money to do so now. I don't have burning desire to get new speakers but I've had these since 2002 as well, so I know I'm going to have to replace them at some point.

I'm glad to hear that you still like the sounds of the v2 set, that makes name feel good!

If I were able to sell my current set up of v2 100s, cc, and four 20s, how much should I ask for them?
post #26202 of 30086
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Originally Posted by james138 View Post

Thanks guys, my speakers sound great to me. To be honest the only reason I was thinking about buying new speakers is because I have the money to do so now. I don't have burning desire to get new speakers but I've had these since 2002 as well, so I know I'm going to have to replace them at some point.
I'm glad to hear that you still like the sounds of the v2 set, that makes name feel good!
If I were able to sell my current set up of v2 100s, cc, and four 20s, how much should I ask for them?

Ask a $1000.
post #26203 of 30086
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Originally Posted by CHASLS2 View Post

Ask a $1000.

Thanks!
post #26204 of 30086
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Originally Posted by CHASLS2 View Post

Ask a $1000.
A pair of Studio 100v3's sold on ebay recently for $1400.

The Studio 20 v2's (of which several pairs have sold on ebay) run between $360 and $410 per pair.

So not counting center channel, he reasonably has $1800 worth of speakers (I'll assume the 100v2 is worth 2/3rd the 100v3 given that we are on v5)

I'd personally (assuming I was motivated to sell) would start there (anywhere under $2k actually) and see what I could accomplish.
post #26205 of 30086
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Originally Posted by james138 View Post

Thanks guys, my speakers sound great to me. To be honest the only reason I was thinking about buying new speakers is because I have the money to do so now. I don't have burning desire to get new speakers but I've had these since 2002 as well, so I know I'm going to have to replace them at some point.
I'm glad to hear that you still like the sounds of the v2 set, that makes name feel good!
If I were able to sell my current set up of v2 100s, cc, and four 20s, how much should I ask for them?

The V2 Studio 100's are still regarded one of the best in that model run.....if I were you I would purchase a new CC instead (you shouldn't have to ask which one) and sell the old CC.
That alone will make your system shine.

And what receiver/processor are you running? Different/updated room correction systems can make a huge difference there.
Power-wise I think you're ok so nothing to gain from spending $$$ on a different power amp.
post #26206 of 30086
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Originally Posted by CHASLS2 View Post

Ask a $1000.

I dont know if you're joking or not (no smiley) but if you are, lol.

If you're not, then.....lol.
post #26207 of 30086
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Originally Posted by Yosh70 View Post

I dont know if you're joking or not (no smiley) but if you are, lol.
If you're not, then.....lol.

Guess i missed the part he had 4 studio 20's. So lets try $1500.
post #26208 of 30086
Yeah, probably between $1500 and $2000 would be the range just based on seeing 100v2's go on Audiogon around the $800 dollar range I think so add a CC and 2 pairs of 20's would bump the price up into that $ range. The veneer cabinets cost more so if your 100's and 20's are veneers not laminates you might be able to get a bit more.
post #26209 of 30086
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Originally Posted by Yosh70 View Post

The V2 Studio 100's are still regarded one of the best in that model run.....if I were you I would purchase a new CC instead (you shouldn't have to ask which one) and sell the old CC.
That alone will make your system shine.
And what receiver/processor are you running? Different/updated room correction systems can make a huge difference there.
Power-wise I think you're ok so nothing to gain from spending $$$ on a different power amp.

I'm glad to hear that my speakers are still held with such high regard! Yesterday I went to listen to some Klipsch and B & W speakers (CM series) and my 100s still bested them.
I really love the low end from the v2, is there any chance the v5 will let me down in that department?

I'm guessing you're recommending the 690?

My pre/pro is pretty new, it's an Integra DHC-80.2, so I'm set there.

I'm also please I could get $1800-$2000 for my set up, like I said I haven't looked at speakers since 2002!
post #26210 of 30086
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Originally Posted by james138 View Post

I'm glad to hear that my speakers are still held with such high regard! Yesterday I went to listen to some Klipsch and B & W speakers (CM series) and my 100s still bested them.
I really love the low end from the v2, is there any chance the v5 will let me down in that department?
I'm guessing you're recommending the 690?
My pre/pro is pretty new, it's an Integra DHC-80.2, so I'm set there.
I'm also please I could get $1800-$2000 for my set up, like I said I haven't looked at speakers since 2002!

The new V5 prices will shock ya.
post #26211 of 30086
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Originally Posted by james138 View Post

I'm glad to hear that my speakers are still held with such high regard! Yesterday I went to listen to some Klipsch and B & W speakers (CM series) and my 100s still bested them.
I really love the low end from the v2, is there any chance the v5 will let me down in that department?
I'm guessing you're recommending the 690?
My pre/pro is pretty new, it's an Integra DHC-80.2, so I'm set there.
I'm also please I could get $1800-$2000 for my set up, like I said I haven't looked at speakers since 2002!

Yea the CC690....HUGE difference from the Studio CC. I have the V4 690 and it matches quite well to my V2 100's.
So what sub do you have? Are you good there? A high powered well integrated sub can make a big difference there too.
And I won't blather about it but room treatment can make your room sound like never before.
post #26212 of 30086
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Originally Posted by Yosh70 View Post

Yea the CC690....HUGE difference from the Studio CC. I have the V4 690 and it matches quite well to my V2 100's.
So what sub do you have? Are you good there? A high powered well integrated sub can make a big difference there too.
And I won't blather about it but room treatment can make your room sound like never before.

I have a ten year old SVS PBS 2 Plus.
post #26213 of 30086
I was going to suggest get another sub but since its not in production anymore, that may be difficult.

Get the CC and add room treatment, that should make it like you have a new system.
post #26214 of 30086
Putting my beloved Studio 10s up for sale. Anyone interested?

http://www.avsforum.com/t/1448611/paradigm-studio-10v5-speakers-in-rosenut-local-only
post #26215 of 30086
Is the Model CC-370 V.3 a good speaker for $160? Is it bright? I found one on CL. What would I match it with? Thanks for help.
post #26216 of 30086
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Originally Posted by likemovies View Post

Is the Model CC-370 V.3 a good speaker for $160? Is it bright? I found one on CL. What would I match it with?
- Yes.
- No brighter than any of the other older Monitor-series speakers.
- Older Monitor 7s (v1-4), Monitor 3s and Mini Monitors.

I've had the CC-370v3 paired with both my Paradigm 7se's and, later, my Monitor 7v4s. Both configurations sounded very good.
post #26217 of 30086
Hi Everyone,

I recently purchased a pair of Paradigm Studio 60s along with a Denon AVR-3313CI. My goal is to build it up to a 5 or 5.1 surround sound system for watching movies and listening to music. These are the questions I would love your input on:

1. Will I need a Sub or will the Studio 60s suffice?

2. For the rear speakers, I'm trying to decide between Studio 10s, Studio 20s, or the Studio ADP-590s. Price is the reason for considering the 10s, but don't know how well they would perform in this setup for something like Dark Side Of The Moon on SACD or Lord Of The Rings on Blu Ray. Separately, I don't know much about what the difference between the ADP-590s and the other speakers, but I saw a reviewer with this setup and wondered why I might consider it.

I really appreciate any advice you could provide. Thanks in advance!

Gerry
post #26218 of 30086
Hi Gerry congrats on your new gears. Below are my 0.02 cents:

1. When i got my Monitor 7v6, I was so happy with the bass and I thought I'll never get a sub. I was darn wrong. When I went to an annual sight and sounds exhibit and demoed some subs, I realized Im missing a lot. In the end, I got a sealed sub and was so happy. So to answer your question, yes you need a sub.

2. I was choosing between atoms and adp for my surrounds and noticed the adp has better "enveloping" sound generally because its dipole. So if I'm on your shoes, I'd get ADP590.

Hope this helps.
post #26219 of 30086
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I recently purchased a pair of Paradigm Studio 60s along with a Denon AVR-3313CI. My goal is to build it up to a 5 or 5.1 surround sound system for watching movies and listening to music. These are the questions I would love your input on:
1. Will I need a Sub or will the Studio 60s suffice?
For (most) music, the S60s alone will be fine. For movies, you will need a sub. (I have Studio 60v4s and I run subs with them.)
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2. For the rear speakers, I'm trying to decide between Studio 10s, Studio 20s, or the Studio ADP-590s. Price is the reason for considering the 10s, but don't know how well they would perform in this setup for something like Dark Side Of The Moon on SACD or Lord Of The Rings on Blu Ray.
ADP-590s are great side surround speakers, but if you're setting up a 5.1 system, you might be better off with a direct-firing speakers such as the Studio 10s or 20s. The S10s will extend to below 80Hz, so with the sub(s) handling frequencies below the crossover, the S10s will work just fine as surrounds. However, if you come across a pair of gently-used S20s (v4 or v5), don't hesitate to snag those instead.

Finally, and even though you didn't ask - wink.gif - do get a CC-690 for your CC speaker. It is a beautiful-sounding speaker. cool.gif When I was upgrading to my current Studio set-up, I bought a gently-used CC-590v5, and on the day I picked it up, I demo'd it against my buddy's CC-690v5. After we were done demo-ing, we drove to his local Paradigm retailer and I bought a CC-690. To my ears (and to his), it really was that much better-sounding (bigger, fuller, richer, better-balanced).
post #26220 of 30086
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Originally Posted by Yosh70 View Post

Dipoles are a purchase only if you have the right room configuration. The salesman should have told you that at the time.

Can you elaborate more on this? I run a 5.1 system. The fronts are Studio 20 v4, the center is a CC-490 v5, and I'm using a pair of mini monitor v3 for surrounds right now. I'm curious about trying dipoles. There is no back wall. My setup sits in a rectangular area, with the front stage along the short wall at the far end. At the other end is a couch, with the surrounds on stands on each side of it. There is no wall behind the couch. It simply opens up to a much larger area, which in turn is open to pretty much the rest of the house.

Do you think dipoles would work, or is it really necessary to have a back wall to reflect the sound back to the seating area?
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