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post #26221 of 30098
I'm using my Studio 10v5's as rears with my Sig2v3's and they work very well.
post #26222 of 30098
Yeah, I don't really have any complaints about the surrounds I'm using, but I've never heard dipoles and I'm very curious to know how they sound. However, if they're going to sound like garbage because I don't have the right room configuration for them, then I probably won't bother experimenting with them.
post #26223 of 30098
I have ADP-390's nearly perpendicular to my listening position and a rear wall about 10 ft away from them. It sounds as if I have a pair of speakers behind me because of the rear wall. If I had no rear wall, I am quite certain I would not get the sound coming from behind me.
post #26224 of 30098
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The new V5 prices will shock ya.

Wow, you weren't kidding! I just went went to a dealer and they were asking a ton for the set up that I was looking for.
post #26225 of 30098
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Originally Posted by tboe77 View Post

Can you elaborate more on this? I run a 5.1 system. The fronts are Studio 20 v4, the center is a CC-490 v5, and I'm using a pair of mini monitor v3 for surrounds right now. I'm curious about trying dipoles. There is no back wall. My setup sits in a rectangular area, with the front stage along the short wall at the far end. At the other end is a couch, with the surrounds on stands on each side of it. There is no wall behind the couch. It simply opens up to a much larger area, which in turn is open to pretty much the rest of the house.
Do you think dipoles would work, or is it really necessary to have a back wall to reflect the sound back to the seating area?

Dipoles are excellent rear surround speakers and if you set them up correctly in the right room, even moreso....there is a lot of factors to consider but if you have them on stands on either side of the couch and the null area facing you, you might get a better "surround" experience than what you presently have. Do you feel your mini's are too "direct"? You can try different positions with them in the meantime.....you can try elevating them, placing them behind the couch, turn them facing each other or even turn them facing outwards.

Re-calibrate and see if you like it.....you may save some $$$ instead.
post #26226 of 30098
Hey guys,

Just a friendly update: My Sig C5 and Monitor Surround 3's have all sold and shipped out. But for some reason my Sig 8's have still not sold despite the crazy price I have them at: 5.3k (price includes shipping and all fees, insurance, etc). Anyone looking for the best speakers Paradigm has (cherry finish) in Like New condition, with original boxes and packaging, check my AVS classified posting!

That is all.
lol
post #26227 of 30098
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Originally Posted by BigCoolJesus View Post

Hey guys,
Just a friendly update: My Sig C5 and Monitor Surround 3's have all sold and shipped out. But for some reason my Sig 8's have still not sold despite the crazy price I have them at: 5.3k (price includes shipping and all fees, insurance, etc). Anyone looking for the best speakers Paradigm has (cherry finish) in Like New condition, with original boxes and packaging, check my AVS classified posting!
That is all.
lol

Be patient, the more expensive the item it usually takes longer to sell. It took two months for my S6's to sell without pricing them too low.

post #26228 of 30098
Paradigm seem to be getting over priced, IMO and the local paradigm dealer won't do anything for discounts, is anyone else find retailers wont come down much? They would knock a $100 off for the studio 60 but full price for the 590 and the Studio 60 are floor models and the 590 would have to be ordered in, so $2600 for the Studio 60 and $1400 for the 590, doesn't seem like much of a deal, $4000 for them both! And isn't this v5 about to be replace soon?
post #26229 of 30098
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Originally Posted by Ryder125 View Post

Paradigm seem to be getting over priced, IMO and the local paradigm dealer won't do anything for discounts, is anyone else find retailers wont come down much? They would knock a $100 off for the studio 60 but full price for the 590 and the Studio 60 are floor models and the 590 would have to be ordered in, so $2600 for the Studio 60 and $1400 for the 590, doesn't seem like much of a deal, $4000 for them both! And isn't this v5 about to be replace soon?

Paradigm's value vs performance has been dropping over time IMO, I wouldn't be surprised if the new version increased in price even further. 

post #26230 of 30098
Yeah I remember years ago they were priced great but now that studio 60 and 590 would cost me more then a pair of songtowers or sierras or aperion verse grand including with their center and shipped to Canada, I really like paradigm they look cool, they sound great but I'm not sure I would valve that combo at $4000...
post #26231 of 30098
It was $3200 for just my Sig 2's. A C3 center is also priced way up there.
post #26232 of 30098
I think the competition has increased a lot, and the Canadian dollar is at a premium, raising labor costs etc. compared to other markets.
I found it hard to cough up the money for my Paradigm gear a while ago too.
That said, I got a decent discount, and the performance, aesthetics,etc have me feeling no regrets. Having kids means unfortunately that using the system at anywhere near levels that do it justice are rare. That said, the odd time I can, I'm still blown away. The only thing I want for is more power in the electrical sense. Needless to say, the basement will get all 20 amp circuits, with a few 240v.
Been thinking about a new CC to replace the monster mirage unit, but I don't find any disconnect in the sound, and CC's are so expensive!!
Maybe I need to wonder into the dealer to weaken my resolve...wink.gif
post #26233 of 30098
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Originally Posted by Yosh70 View Post

Dipoles are excellent rear surround speakers and if you set them up correctly in the right room, even moreso....there is a lot of factors to consider but if you have them on stands on either side of the couch and the null area facing you, you might get a better "surround" experience than what you presently have. Do you feel your mini's are too "direct"? You can try different positions with them in the meantime.....you can try elevating them, placing them behind the couch, turn them facing each other or even turn them facing outwards.
Re-calibrate and see if you like it.....you may save some $$$ instead.

No, I don't have any complaints about the Minis. I'm just curious about the dipoles. I've only ever had direct radiating surrounds, so I don't know what dipoles sound like. I'm thinking I'll watch for an affordable pair on the used market and give them a try to see if I like them.

However, your earlier comment about dipoles requiring a particular room configuration had me wondering if this experiment would be worthwhile, given my room. If there's no way a dipole will sound good in my room, then there isn't much point in acquiring a pair.
post #26234 of 30098
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Originally Posted by weird 23 View Post

Be patient, the more expensive the item it usually takes longer to sell. It took two months for my S6's to sell without pricing them too low.

Am I being too lax on the price of my S8's? Is 5.3k too low/a steal or just about right?
post #26235 of 30098
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Am I being too lax on the price of my S8's? Is 5.3k too low/a steal or just about right?

That all depends on how quickly you want to sell them and how much of a hit your willing to take on them, obviously the lower the price the faster they'll sell.  My S6 v3, C5 v3 and S1 v3's ended selling for pretty much exactly 50% of the retail price, I'm just glad I didn't pay anywhere close to the msrp or I'd have taken a huge hit.

 

Not even sure what the S8's are going for these days but the 50% of retail price is where I started to get lots of interest and they sold pretty quickly once I priced them in that region. Good luck with the sale.

post #26236 of 30098
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Originally Posted by weird 23 View Post

Be patient, the more expensive the item it usually takes longer to sell. It took two months for my S6's to sell without pricing them too low.
Hey Weird - Glad to hear your Sig stuff sold. How do like your Dynaudios?
post #26237 of 30098
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... so $2600 for the Studio 60 and $1400 for the 590, doesn't seem like much of a deal, $4000 for them both!
This is one reason I'm a big proponent of buying speakers gently-used. A pair of Studio 60v4s and a CC-690v5 (which is what I have) can be had for less than the cost of just the new pair of Studio 60s. Worth being patient for, IMO. smile.gif
post #26238 of 30098
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Originally Posted by 519audiofan View Post
 

What's up 519?

 

Loving the Dyn's, here's the replacements for my S6's and C5.

 

1000

 

 

Any plans of some Sig surrounds to match your front three for 2013?

 

You were thinking of a power amp at one point in time were you not? Did you end up getting one?


Edited by weird 23 - 1/1/13 at 8:49pm
post #26239 of 30098
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Originally Posted by eljaycanuck View Post


This is one reason I'm a big proponent of buying speakers gently-used. A pair of Studio 60v4s and a CC-690v5 (which is what I have) can be had for less than the cost of just the new pair of Studio 60s. Worth being patient for, IMO. smile.gif

+1, very good advice. I've scored some great deals buying this way.

post #26240 of 30098
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Originally Posted by weird 23 View Post

That all depends on how quickly you want to sell them and how much of a hit your willing to take on them, obviously the lower the price the faster they'll sell.  My S6 v3, C5 v3 and S1 v3's ended selling for pretty much exactly 50% of the retail price, I'm just glad I didn't pay anywhere close to the msrp or I'd have taken a huge hit.

Not even sure what the S8's are going for these days but the 50% of retail price is where I started to get lots of interest and they sold pretty quickly once I priced them in that region. Good luck with the sale.

Retail is 9k on the S8's. So I am getting very close to 50% retail....but really needing to stay above 5k because of shipping costs for these beasts!
post #26241 of 30098
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Originally Posted by BigCoolJesus View Post


Retail is 9k on the S8's. So I am getting very close to 50% retail....but really needing to stay above 5k because of shipping costs for these beasts!

I was lucky that both the C5 and S1's sold locally, the S6's shipping was paid by the buyer on top of the asking price. It is difficult to wait for things to sell but it seems your in the ballpark price wise, hopefully you'll find a buyer soon.

post #26242 of 30098
Wished i could luck into some Sig8's local. I never see used Paradigm stuff in my area.
post #26243 of 30098
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Originally Posted by eljaycanuck View Post

This is one reason I'm a big proponent of buying speakers gently-used. A pair of Studio 60v4s and a CC-690v5 (which is what I have) can be had for less than the cost of just the new pair of Studio 60s. Worth being patient for, IMO. smile.gif

Yes! I wanted to upgrade from Monitor to Studio series, but could not justify the cost of buying them new. I scored a near-mint pair of Studio 20 v4 for $450, and a near-mint Studio CC-490 v5 for $500 ($450 + $50 for shipping). That was a huge upgrade to the front stage for me for under a grand.
post #26244 of 30098
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I scored a near-mint pair of Studio 20 v4 for $450, and a near-mint Studio CC-490 v5 for $500 ($450 + $50 for shipping). That was a huge upgrade to the front stage for me for under a grand.
Sweet... cool.gif
post #26245 of 30098
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Originally Posted by CHASLS2 View Post

Wished i could luck into some Sig8's local. I never see used Paradigm stuff in my area.

I'll ship to you. UPS Freight. You know you can't say no wink.gif
post #26246 of 30098
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Originally Posted by CHASLS2 View Post

Wished i could luck into some Sig8's local. I never see used Paradigm stuff in my area.
I've got studio 40's in your area I'll sell.

Or: switch to the dark side. N801's. You know you want them.
post #26247 of 30098
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Originally Posted by weird 23 View Post

What's up 519?

Loving the Dyn's, here the replacements for my S6's and C5.

1000



Any plans of some Sig surrounds to match your front three for 2013?

You were thinking of a power amp at one point in time were you not? Did you end up getting one?
Those look awesome! Are they as tall in real life as they appear in the picture?
Yes some Sig surrounds are on my list but the priority is an amplifier.

I am going to go with an NAD 275BEE. Yesterday I was at my dealer and spent a little time with a 275BEE and a pair of S8s.
It seems to be a solid amp and the price is very affordable.
post #26248 of 30098
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Originally Posted by eljaycanuck View Post

This is one reason I'm a big proponent of buying speakers gently-used. A pair of Studio 60v4s and a CC-690v5 (which is what I have) can be had for less than the cost of just the new pair of Studio 60s. Worth being patient for, IMO. smile.gif

+1. Some amazing deals can be found in the used market. Last spring on CAM I spotted a new in box pair of cherry v2 S4s and C3 for the approximate selling price of pair of v5 Studio 60s.
Needless to say I took the day off and drove the hour to the seller and they were indeed as advertised. That was a good day !

I then sold my v4 Studio 40's and CC 590 for a great price. The total cost of the upgrade was $ 675.00
post #26249 of 30098
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Originally Posted by 519audiofan View Post


Those look awesome! Are they as tall in real life as they appear in the picture?
Yes some Sig surrounds are on my list but the priority is an amplifier.
I am going to go with an NAD 275BEE. Yesterday I was at my dealer and spent a little time with a 275BEE and a pair of S8s.
It seems to be a solid amp and the price is very affordable.

Yes they are pretty tall and quite heavy but sound really good.

 

I think Nad is a good choice for the Sigs, gear with a warm sound signature compliments them well IMO. Good to hear your enjoying your speakers, the S4's are the only Sigs I haven't gotten a chance to listen to. Sounds like you got them for a steal as well.

 

Do you find your Yamaha has trouble pushing them to the levels you want to listen to?

post #26250 of 30098
Hey guys. If I decide to go with Paradigms I'm trying to decide if should get Studio 100's and a CC590 or S2 bookshelfs with a C3. My issue is that I'd probably still stay with the studio line for the side and rear surrounds. Would the combo of Signature fronts blend nicely with Studio surrounds or should I just save up longer and get Signature surrounds as well? Thanks.

Oh, this is going in a somewhat large room 24' x 20' and mostly HT. Don't listen to much music aside from whatever music is playing in the movie.
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