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post #26341 of 30062
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Originally Posted by pappaduke View Post

You'll probably be happy with paradigms, but I suggest you go demo them first. I almost bought a klipsch setup until I went to listen to them. That day I discovered paradigms((which I had never paid attention too). I've been extremely happy with them. Just my .02.

I would love to audition them first, but there are no dealers in Charleston, SC. I think the closest is 5 hours away. That's what makes this tough. I'll be building the media center around a speaker I may or may not get. I just don't want to regret anything later. I can deal with a shelf that's too big in the event that I don't get the 690. However, I'll probably be kicking myself if I like the 690 but can't get it due to the media center.
post #26342 of 30062
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Originally Posted by pappaduke View Post

You'll probably be happy with paradigms, but I suggest you go demo them first. I almost bought a klipsch setup until I went to listen to them. That day I discovered paradigms((which I had never paid attention too). I've been extremely happy with them. Just my .02.

I would love to audition them first, but there are no dealers in Charleston, SC. I think the closest is 5 hours away. That's what makes this tough. I'll be building the media center around a speaker I may or may not get. I just don't want to regret anything later. I can deal with a shelf that's too big in the event that I don't get the 690. However, I'll probably be kicking myself if I like the 690 but can't get it due to the media center.
post #26343 of 30062
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Originally Posted by pappaduke View Post

You'll probably be happy with paradigms, but I suggest you go demo them first. I almost bought a klipsch setup until I went to listen to them. That day I discovered paradigms((which I had never paid attention too). I've been extremely happy with them. Just my .02.

I would love to audition them first, but there are no dealers in Charleston, SC. I think the closest is 5 hours away. That's what makes this tough. I'll be building the media center around a speaker I may or may not get. I just don't want to regret anything later. I can deal with a shelf that's too big in the event that I don't get the 690. However, I'll probably be kicking myself if I like the 690 but can't get it due to the media center. When I get closer to purchasing I do have a dealer here that can order them and return them if I don't like them. I'd just have to pay a restocking fee.
post #26344 of 30062
what happened there? sorry for the multiple posts. frown.gif
post #26345 of 30062
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Originally Posted by BentZero View Post

what happened there? sorry for the multiple posts. frown.gif
Well the good news is, if you build for the 690, even if you don't like the paradigms(I think you will), you will have enough space for just about any center out there. Too bad you don't have a dealer closer. Good luck with your purchase.
post #26346 of 30062
Hi Everyone,

I can't bring myself to spending $2,000 on the Studio Sub 12, so I'm looking for an alternative that is under $1,000. It is being paired with Studio 60s up front, CC-490 center, and Studio 20s for the surround. Would a Definitive Tech Supercube 4000 be sufficient? I've never heard it, but I like the price. Any other recommendations? Thanks in advance!

Gerry
post #26347 of 30062
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Originally Posted by Gerry White View Post

Hi Everyone,

I can't bring myself to spending $2,000 on the Studio Sub 12, so I'm looking for an alternative that is under $1,000. It is being paired with Studio 60s up front, CC-490 center, and Studio 20s for the surround. Would a Definitive Tech Supercube 4000 be sufficient? I've never heard it, but I like the price. Any other recommendations? Thanks in advance!

Gerry

Check out Rythmik subs. Very pleased with my 12 inch sealed servo sub:)
post #26348 of 30062
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Originally Posted by grasshoppers View Post

Check out Rythmik subs. Very pleased with my 12 inch sealed servo sub:)

Yep. Rythmik, SVS, Hsu... lots of solid choices.
post #26349 of 30062
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Originally Posted by eljaycanuck View Post

I bought a CC-590, A/B'd it against my buddy's CC-690...and went out and bought a CC-690. Fantastic CC speaker, with a bigger / fuller / better-balanced sound than the CC-590. Almost three years later, I'm still loving it. It's one of the best HT purchases I've made. cool.gif

Still got the 590cc? I'm looking to bump up in size from my 490cc.
post #26350 of 30062
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Originally Posted by Gerry White View Post

Hi Everyone,

I can't bring myself to spending $2,000 on the Studio Sub 12, so I'm looking for an alternative that is under $1,000. It is being paired with Studio 60s up front, CC-490 center, and Studio 20s for the surround. Would a Definitive Tech Supercube 4000 be sufficient? I've never heard it, but I like the price. Any other recommendations? Thanks in advance!

Gerry

SVS gets my vote!
post #26351 of 30062
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I can't bring myself to spending $2,000 on the Studio Sub 12, so I'm looking for an alternative that is under $1,000. It is being paired with Studio 60s up front, CC-490 center, and Studio 20s for the surround. Would a Definitive Tech Supercube 4000 be sufficient?
IMO, the SC4000 isn't a good value. For the same money or less in a sealed sub I'd consider:
- SVS SB12-NSD ($649, shipped)
- PSA XS-15 ($749, shipped)

For ~$1K:
- Rythmik F15 ($974 + shipping)
- PSA XS-30 ($1,149, shipped)
post #26352 of 30062
Or DIY sub,
Driver pick Stereo Integrity HT 18" $200.


4.5 cu ft sealed box flat pack from EricH $115 http://www.diysoundgroup.com/flat-packs-1/subwoofer-flatpacks-2.html
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Made from 3/4" mdf with a double thick 1.5" front baffle. It has recessed cut outs for the TC Sounds 18" LMS woofer, rabbet joints for the top, bottom, and back panels, 1/2" roundovers on the front baffle, and also a bracing that slides into dado grooves!
All panels fit together very nice and make it nearly fool proof.
22" x 22" x 22.75" deep
4.5 cu ft net after double baffle and bracing
Inner baffle diameter: 16.85"
Outer baffle diameter: 18.57"
Woofer recess: .75"
72 lbs
Included Parts
1 - flat pack made from 3/4" mdf
Shipping Weight N/A
Speaker Notes
This is a a very easy cabinet to assemble and can be done without clamps if needed. Some people have put these together using masking tape to hold the panels while the wood glue dries. I tried to have the cabinet designed to only go together one way. The smallest panel is the bottom panel.


Plate amp parts express sa1000 $340 http://www.parts-express.com/pe/showdetl.cfm?partnumber=300-809


$800 with glue finish , binding posts, etc and it will outperform anything listed above
Look here via data-bass.com STEREO INTEGRITY HT18D2 SEALED



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Edited by mtbdudex - 1/13/13 at 10:27am
post #26353 of 30062
There is a pair of Epik Empires for sale on the fs section for 1000. I think the pair beats all ether others mentioned.

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post #26354 of 30062
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Originally Posted by pappaduke View Post

Well the good news is, if you build for the 690, even if you don't like the paradigms(I think you will), you will have enough space for just about any center out there. Too bad you don't have a dealer closer. Good luck with your purchase.

I was just looking at the design of the 690. Will I have an issue with the ports firing into the back of my media cabinet? My media center is going to be pretty deep. Around 3' for various reasons. This is the first time that I'd be putting a center into a cabinet. Mine have always sat on top of a low cabinet. I'm just wondering if that will be an issue or not. Also, the front of my media center is about 17" closer to my seating position than the wall that my tv will be mounted to. Will my sound stage be off because of the difference? I'm thinking that it won't be an issue.

I know I'm over thinking these things. This will be my most expensive system to date and I just want to be sure that I don't mess anything up.
post #26355 of 30062
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Originally Posted by BentZero View Post

I was just looking at the design of the 690. Will I have an issue with the ports firing into the back of my media cabinet? My media center is going to be pretty deep. Around 3' for various reasons. This is the first time that I'd be putting a center into a cabinet. Mine have always sat on top of a low cabinet. I'm just wondering if that will be an issue or not. Also, the front of my media center is about 17" closer to my seating position than the wall that my tv will be mounted to. Will my sound stage be off because of the difference? I'm thinking that it won't be an issue.

I know I'm over thinking these things. This will be my most expensive system to date and I just want to be sure that I don't mess anything up.

You can adjust speaker distance in the AVR setup menu. I have my 4900cc about 4" from my TV riser and it don't seem to effect it in a bad way. A 690cc would give me trouble using my 65vt30 remote as it is high enough to block it.
post #26356 of 30062
what does everyone think of my setup.
i have
studio 60's for the front
cc350 for the center
adp150's for the surrounds
i want to update the system what is anybodys sugguestion.
thanks to all who reply.
post #26357 of 30062
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i want to update the system what is anybodys sugguestion.
Update whatever you think needs updating. smile.gif

Having said that:
- What version are the 60s? If they're v1 or v2, the Studio/CC v2 is a better match than the CC-350. If they're v3-v5, the CC-470 or CC-690.
- I'd go with bigger surrounds. If you can't swing ADP-590s, ADP-370s will work. (I ran some for a while with my Studio 60v4s.)
- Subwoofer. cool.gif
post #26358 of 30062
actually i was thinking of a pair of bookshelf units and the bigger surrounds won't fit. my sub is by velodyne.
post #26359 of 30062
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Originally Posted by BuGsArEtAsTy View Post

This may sound stupid, but has anyone ever re-glued the foam back onto the cone? I figure if the speaker is toast anyway, it couldn't hurt to try. However, what adhesive would I use if I'm going to try this?

Actually, just last week repaired my CC-150's midrange drivers using genuine Paradigm replacement foam surrounds in the exact size for the drivers. Cost me $25. The adhesive I received looked like regular plastic model glue. Even smelled like it. Worth a try, for anyone considering just gluing the foam back on to the cone.
post #26360 of 30062
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Originally Posted by juancmjr View Post

Actually, just last week repaired my CC-150's midrange drivers using genuine Paradigm replacement foam surrounds in the exact size for the drivers. Cost me $25. The adhesive I received looked like regular plastic model glue. Even smelled like it. Worth a try, for anyone considering just gluing the foam back on to the cone.
How many sniffs did it take to get to the center of that tootsie pop? smile.gif
post #26361 of 30062
Hey eljay, beautiful HT! wink.gif
post #26362 of 30062
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Hey eljay, beautiful HT! wink.gif
Thanks! biggrin.gif
post #26363 of 30062
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Originally Posted by BentZero View Post

I was just looking at the design of the 690. Will I have an issue with the ports firing into the back of my media cabinet? My media center is going to be pretty deep. Around 3' for various reasons...(snip)...

I know I'm over thinking these things. This will be my most expensive system to date and I just want to be sure that I don't mess anything up.
That won't be a problem at all in a 3' deep cabinet. As long as you have about 1.5 times the port diameter in distance to the back wall of the cabinet you should be OK. Another option is to have a cut-out in the back or just leave the back of the cabinet open in that section. Also I'd leave a little room over the top of the center, just a couple of inches, so you can tilt it up a little to aim it at ear level.

BTW, I love my CC-690. Best center I've ever had.
post #26364 of 30062
Just auditioned the monitor 7. Seems strange that I find it sounded better than a Studio 60 eek.gif Do you think there's something wrong with my ears?
post #26365 of 30062
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Just auditioned the monitor 7. Seems strange that I find it sounded better than a Studio 60 eek.gif
Preferences are subjective - there's nothing strange about that.
post #26366 of 30062
Hey y'all. I'm having a house built and I'm wiring the living room for either 5.1 or 7.1 and due to the less than ideal room area I'm having trouble determining not only the wire outlet positions but also what speakers I'm going to use. I have to tell my builder my final choices by tomorrow. I'll be re-using my SE3 fronts and SE center for the front stage but I have to switch my SE1 surrounds to something else.
The picture of the model home below shows the living area. The front wall will not have a fireplace so the media alcove will extend to the front left corner, the left wall you can see, the back is open to the breakfast area and kitchen and the right side is open to the dining area with an arch across the ceiling that's about 1 foot in height separating the living from the dining. I went to my dealer yesterday and asked if they thought mounting Surround 3s or Studio ADPs very high on the left wall and along the arch on the right wall would work for side surrounds (blue positions in the first photo) with ceiling mounted back surrounds and they said no way because the right side surround would not have a wall to reflect off of.
I would prefer not using any direct firing speakers with angled mounts so that leaves me with in ceiling options. The second image below shows a portion of the floor plan and potential speaker positions. I asked my dealer what they thought about 4 speakers in the red positions to make a 7.1 and they recommended building only a 5.1 with SA-15R's (studio series equivalent) or AMS-150R's (monitor series equivalent) in the blue positions. Their 5.1 recommendation was based off there being a lack of very much true 7.1 content available and therefore the extra channels would be a waste. I was going along with them until they said that. While that may have been true when Blu-Rays were new I know there are over 300 now, as well as some games I play, with 7.1 audio and knew I needed some second opinions after that was mentioned. Anyway, here are my actual questions;

1) Would Surround 3's or Studio ADPs sound good in the marked blue locations in the first picture below or should I use in-ceiling AMS-150R's or SA-15R's which fire directly downward in a cone soundwave shape for the side surrounds?
2) Should I stick with 5.1 which I've always had and been happy with but also never had the option for 7.1 due to previous room layouts, or should I convert to 7.1 and add the back surrounds?
3) If I add the back surrounds should I use two additional down firing cone soundwave shaped speakers or should I use the 30-degree angled in ceilings so they can be aimed towards the back of the listening area rather than firing straight down behind the listening area?

I'm sorry for this long mess but would appreciate any input. Thank you.


post #26367 of 30062
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Originally Posted by koresuki View Post

Just auditioned the monitor 7. Seems strange that I find it sounded better than a Studio 60 eek.gif Do you think there's something wrong with my ears?

As @eljaycanuck mentioned, this is what you like. Even better as it will cost you 2-3 times less in cost! Monitor series is just fine for many folks here. Don't let all the Studio talk on this thread deter you otherwise. Go enjoy! What sub are you pairing with these?
post #26368 of 30062
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Originally Posted by Ishniknork View Post

That won't be a problem at all in a 3' deep cabinet. As long as you have about 1.5 times the port diameter in distance to the back wall of the cabinet you should be OK. Another option is to have a cut-out in the back or just leave the back of the cabinet open in that section. Also I'd leave a little room over the top of the center, just a couple of inches, so you can tilt it up a little to aim it at ear level.

BTW, I love my CC-690. Best center I've ever had.

Awesome. I'll have at least 12", but I can bump that up a bit. We're still in the design phase. Thanks for the reply.
post #26369 of 30062
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Originally Posted by IXinchnail View Post


1) Would Surround 3's or Studio ADPs sound good in the marked blue locations in the first picture below or should I use in-ceiling AMS-150R's or SA-15R's which fire directly downward in a cone soundwave shape for the side surrounds?
2) Should I stick with 5.1 which I've always had and been happy with but also never had the option for 7.1 due to previous room layouts, or should I convert to 7.1 and add the back surrounds?
3) If I add the back surrounds should I use two additional down firing cone soundwave shaped speakers or should I use the 30-degree angled in ceilings so they can be aimed towards the back of the listening area rather than firing straight down behind the listening area?

I'd probably go the ceiling mount route. I don't like in-ceiling speakers, but that's just me. I'd probably go with something I can mount on the ceiling and turn and pivot as I see fit. Not ideal, but if your significant other is like mine they'll not appreciate speakers on speaker stands in that room.
post #26370 of 30062
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Originally Posted by bowmah View Post

As @eljaycanuck mentioned, this is what you like. Even better as it will cost you 2-3 times less in cost! Monitor series is just fine for many folks here. Don't let all the Studio talk on this thread deter you otherwise. Go enjoy! What sub are you pairing with these?

Either Hsu vtf3.4 or a dayton titanic sub. Leaning closer to hsu
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