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post #26851 of 28091
3/1/13 at 9:10pm
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Originally Posted by deltadube View Post

i just bought the studio 100s cc690 and adp 590s.. and then bought an emotiva xpa 3 200 wpc for the front .. well that will put a dent in the bank account yikes..

later on will want to add a better sub and more amps mono blocks for the towers.. emotiva has a new mono block coming out in a few days with class A pure power..

so rumor has it.. 250 wpc.. class A power dont really know what it means but i hear its great stuff.. could be awesome with the 100s..

the xpa 3 will do fine for now.. my denon 3313ci can power the backs surrounds.. the adp 590 is only rated for 130 watts.. should be a pretty good system for movies and music..

going to be a long weekend..

cheers..

Exactly what I had. You're going to love it. The XPA-3 is a big help to the front three.

Pictures please when you're connected.
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post #26852 of 28091
3/1/13 at 9:30pm
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Originally Posted by dannybenz View Post

Since I haven't heard the C5, the "what if" question keeps lingering. The C5 might just sound the same as the C3, in which case I'll have severe buyer's remorse. If the difference between a C3 and a C5 is the same as the difference between an S2 and S8, I'll stick with my C3. However if the C5 helps clear up midrange dialogue, I would make the switch.

I don't think you will notice a big difference in a small-medium room. I do tend to give the C3 more volume (-30 to -20) if I think something is muffled. It is typically the source material mastering and will sound similar with any speaker. The C5 is an even better example of a full-range capable center and a 3 1/2 way design, so it should not disappoint. I still think the C3 is an excellent center and only you will be able to decide if the C5 is worth 2x the cost of the C3.
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post #26853 of 28091
3/1/13 at 9:34pm
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Originally Posted by ayrton View Post

Exactly what I had. You're going to love it. The XPA-3 is a big help to the front three.

Pictures please when you're connected.

Class A will run very warm and will draw nearly full power even at idle, but is said to sound the best. Class A amps are typically very pricey as well.
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post #26854 of 28091
3/1/13 at 10:06pm
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I can't decide between Rosenut and Ash Black (Piano is too glossy albeit beautiful) for Studio 20s. I know its entirely subjective but ...someone tell me which to buy tongue.gif

Which has the better resale value?

rosenut is what i just ordered.. but if you have a projection room and want the dark maybe black ash.. but i think the rosenut is dark enough for projection and way better looking ..

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post #26855 of 28091
3/1/13 at 10:12pm
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Originally Posted by ayrton View Post

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Originally Posted by deltadube View Post

i just bought the studio 100s cc690 and adp 590s.. and then bought an emotiva xpa 3 200 wpc for the front .. well that will put a dent in the bank account yikes..

later on will want to add a better sub and more amps mono blocks for the towers.. emotiva has a new mono block coming out in a few days with class A pure power..

so rumor has it.. 250 wpc.. class A power dont really know what it means but i hear its great stuff.. could be awesome with the 100s..

the xpa 3 will do fine for now.. my denon 3313ci can power the backs surrounds.. the adp 590 is only rated for 130 watts.. should be a pretty good system for movies and music..

going to be a long weekend..

cheers..

Exactly what I had. You're going to love it. The XPA-3 is a big help to the front three.

Pictures please when you're connected.

thanks.. paradigm highly recommends amp power... it right in the manual.. the xpa 3 is still a we bit low for the 100s but
my wallet is taped out.. when i go to 7 channel.. will get some better power for the towers.. will just set my volume limiter so i dont
push it.. under power can be bad when pushed but so can over power confusing game eh.. buts its better to have over power..

cheers..
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post #26856 of 28091
3/1/13 at 10:21pm
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I recently purchased Studio 100 v5 and CC 690. I'm wondering if people who own similar could comment on compatible subs. I'm thinking about Sub12 or Sub15. Is there a good alternative ... The room is roughly 10X15. ... I'm toying with 2 subs eventually perhaps
Both are excellent subs, but you can get a lot of performance in a room the size of yours for a lot less than either of those subs. In Canada - from sonicboomaudio.com (SVS' sole Canadian distributer), the SVS PB12-NSD or PB12-Plus - single or dual - would provide tremendous performance.

From the States, the following - either single or dual - would do the same:
- Rythmik F15 or FV15
- PSA XV15 or XS30
- Outlaw LFM-1 Plus or LFM-1 EX
- HSU VTF-3 Mk4 or VTF-15H

ive seen alot of happy posters with paradigm 100s on the power sound audio sub forum PSA.. im a fan of toms customer service 1st class.. in the smaller room maybe even the
xs15 would do a great job .. they say the sealed sub is better for music....

from what i here the xs 30 xv 30 might blow the walls out in that room LOL>.


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post #26857 of 28091
3/1/13 at 10:28pm
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Some of these issues could be due to the speaker being inadequate to the task, others could just as well be due to varying degrees of mastering quality from the video post houses (it can be all over the map).

Also, make sure your Blu-ray player's audio dynamic range compression setting is turn off and that you have positioned your speakers correctly and then calibrated your system properly.

Since I haven't heard the C5, the "what if" question keeps lingering. The C5 might just sound the same as the C3, in which case I'll have severe buyer's remorse. If the difference between a C3 and a C5 is the same as the difference between an S2 and S8, I'll stick with my C3. However if the C5 helps clear up midrange dialogue, I would make the switch.

maybe more amp power and head room are needed? but would try above 1st..

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post #26858 of 28091
3/1/13 at 11:49pm
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Originally Posted by deltadube View Post

i just bought the studio 100s cc690 and adp 590s.. and then bought an emotiva xpa 3 200 wpc for the front .. well that will put a dent in the bank account yikes..

later on will want to add a better sub and more amps mono blocks for the towers.. emotiva has a new mono block coming out in a few days with class A pure power..

so rumor has it.. 250 wpc.. class A power dont really know what it means but i hear its great stuff.. could be awesome with the 100s..

the xpa 3 will do fine for now.. my denon 3313ci can power the backs surrounds.. the adp 590 is only rated for 130 watts.. should be a pretty good system for movies and music..

going to be a long weekend..

cheers..

Congrats!
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post #26859 of 28091
3/2/13 at 2:06am
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Originally Posted by deltadube View Post

thanks.. paradigm highly recommends amp power... it right in the manual.. the xpa 3 is still a we bit low for the 100s but
my wallet is taped out.. when i go to 7 channel.. will get some better power for the towers.. will just set my volume limiter so i dont
push it.. under power can be bad when pushed but so can over power confusing game eh.. buts its better to have over power..

cheers..

Congrats on the speakers!

An XPA-3 is a good amp for the Paradigms. If you are using a sub and routing all the low frequencies to the sub and not to your speakers, you do not need that much continuous power. You very likely will not be driving your speakers with more than 50 CONTINUOUS watts per channel. Even that will be very very loud as Paradigms are pretty sensitive. You will never push 200 W continuously over an extended period of time into your Studio 100's before going completely deaf. Another thing to note is that Paradigm is very vague with their speaker specs. It says "compatible with 8 ohms", but I am sure the 100's are not 8 ohm nominal speakers. The Studio 60 v.5 were measured 6 ohm nominal and dip below 4 ohms. My C3 dips to 3 ohms despite Paradigm claiming it to be "compatible with 8 ohms", whatever that means. I bring this up because your XPA-3 is rated 300 watts continuous into 4 ohms all channels driven, .1% THD. So it will actually output more than 200 watts to your Studios, if needed, before clipping.

Also, don't get so caught up on Paradigm's (or any other manufacturer's) power handling claims for a speaker. You can drive a speaker rated for 200 W with a 2000 W amp with no problem. In movies with loud action scenes, or dynamic music like symphony orchestra, your speakers might demand 1000 or 1500 watts(not an exaggeration) for a fraction of a second. With high quality speakers like Studios, they should be able to handle this amount of power for .001 of a second without damaging them, as long as the power is clean(amp is not clipping). This is where peak power of an amp comes into play. However most amp manufacturers don't publish this, but you can roughly guess that if the amp has a big transformer and tons of capacitance, it will put out a lot of clean peak power. What I am saying is don't worry about over amping. Buy as much amp as you can. You will be far far less likely to damage your speakers with more power than less.

XPA-3 is the perfect starter amp if you have big front speakers. When you can, you can add mono's like XPA-1's for the front two and leave you XPA-3 to drive the center and surrounds. Since the surrounds do not need much power, it will free up the transformer's power and the amp's capacitance to to able to deliver more power to your center.

The class A Emotiva amp you mentioned, the XPA-1L will do 250 watts in 8 ohms and 500 into 4 ohms, with the first 30 watts being class A, after that it switches to class A/B. It is really just a fully balanced class AB amp with a high class A bias, as every Class AB amp operates in class A for the first x watts. In terms of volume, the XPA-1L will only give you an extra 1 or 2 dB before clipping over your XPA-3 for all those extra watts it has.

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post #26860 of 28091
3/2/13 at 3:58am
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Originally Posted by Dan Hitchman View Post

Rosenut, definitely.

I agree. Wished my SIg2's came in rosenut.
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post #26861 of 28091
3/2/13 at 4:11am
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Originally Posted by coresare View Post

What'd you think of them?

I listened to the MilleniaOne's side by side with the PSB Mini's, both two channel. I thought the Paradigm's sounded good but the listening was compromised. The sub they were using was very obviously not integrated well with the speakers. It sounded like it wasn't level matched and boomy.
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post #26862 of 28091
3/2/13 at 4:16am
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Originally Posted by eljaycanuck View Post

Page 10 of the owner's manual has a pic of the L/R and CC speaker stands. Although all the speakers are identical, and although the speaker stands appear to use the same mounting hardware, the vertical "arm" on the CC speaker stand is shorter than the arm on the L/R speaker stand, so it probably doesn't offer enough clearance for the CC speaker to be mounted vertically.

If this is correct, one option would be to contact Paradigm (or your local dealer) and ask about purchasing a single L/R speaker stand, which you could then use with the CC speaker.

I gave Paradigm a call. An extra stand to hold it vertically would cost $70. I think it should be included at no cost if I returned the other one, but they wouldn't. They said that due to the close spacing of the drivers, it should perform identically whether on its side or upright. That may be true, but I'm pretty anal and I'd really prefer all three upright, if not just for aesthetic purposes.
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post #26863 of 28091
3/2/13 at 9:32am
Received my Studio 100's yesterday in piano black. Looks great!!! Glad I got piano black. Second choice was the rosenut. I decided against that because its harder to match with things I think. I dont think the shininess of it will matter because the face is predominantly black cloth. It is being driven by an Anthem MRX 700. How long have you guys noticed the speakers will take to break in as it does sound a little harsh right out of the box as expected.
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post #26864 of 28091
3/2/13 at 9:57am
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Originally Posted by dannybenz View Post

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Originally Posted by deltadube View Post

thanks.. paradigm highly recommends amp power... it right in the manual.. the xpa 3 is still a we bit low for the 100s but
my wallet is taped out.. when i go to 7 channel.. will get some better power for the towers.. will just set my volume limiter so i dont
push it.. under power can be bad when pushed but so can over power confusing game eh.. buts its better to have over power..

cheers..

Congrats on the speakers!

An XPA-3 is a good amp for the Paradigms. If you are using a sub and routing all the low frequencies to the sub and not to your speakers, you do not need that much continuous power. You very likely will not be driving your speakers with more than 50 CONTINUOUS watts per channel. Even that will be very very loud as Paradigms are pretty sensitive. You will never push 200 W continuously over an extended period of time into your Studio 100's before going completely deaf. Another thing to note is that Paradigm is very vague with their speaker specs. It says "compatible with 8 ohms", but I am sure the 100's are not 8 ohm nominal speakers. The Studio 60 v.5 were measured 6 ohm nominal and dip below 4 ohms. My C3 dips to 3 ohms despite Paradigm claiming it to be "compatible with 8 ohms", whatever that means. I bring this up because your XPA-3 is rated 300 watts continuous into 4 ohms all channels driven, .1% THD. So it will actually output more than 200 watts to your Studios, if needed, before clipping.

Also, don't get so caught up on Paradigm's (or any other manufacturer's) power handling claims for a speaker. You can drive a speaker rated for 200 W with a 2000 W amp with no problem. In movies with loud action scenes, or dynamic music like symphony orchestra, your speakers might demand 1000 or 1500 watts(not an exaggeration) for a fraction of a second. With high quality speakers like Studios, they should be able to handle this amount of power for .001 of a second without damaging them, as long as the power is clean(amp is not clipping). This is where peak power of an amp comes into play. However most amp manufacturers don't publish this, but you can roughly guess that if the amp has a big transformer and tons of capacitance, it will put out a lot of clean peak power. What I am saying is don't worry about over amping. Buy as much amp as you can. You will be far far less likely to damage your speakers with more power than less.

XPA-3 is the perfect starter amp if you have big front speakers. When you can, you can add mono's like XPA-1's for the front two and leave you XPA-3 to drive the center and surrounds. Since the surrounds do not need much power, it will free up the transformer's power and the amp's capacitance to to able to deliver more power to your center.

The class A Emotiva amp you mentioned, the XPA-1L will do 250 watts in 8 ohms and 500 into 4 ohms, with the first 30 watts being class A, after that it switches to class A/B. It is really just a fully balanced class AB amp with a high class A bias, as every Class AB amp operates in class A for the first x watts. In terms of volume, the XPA-1L will only give you an extra 1 or 2 dB before clipping over your XPA-3 for all those extra watts it has.

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thanks Danny good post eh.. not that im an expext, with the different frequencies in music the ohm thing is always changing yes they dip down to 4 ohms on certian frequencies..i think its an average
which i havent seen for paradigms.. but i would say they would average 8 to get that rating.. but yes they spike.. and probaly not below 4 ohms.. to get the 8 rating.. most avr cant handle 4 ohms

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post #26865 of 28091
3/2/13 at 10:04am
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Received my Studio 100's yesterday in piano black. Looks great!!! Glad I got piano black. Second choice was the rosenut. I decided against that because its harder to match with things I think. I dont think the shininess of it will matter because the face is predominantly black cloth. It is being driven by an Anthem MRX 700. How long have you guys noticed the speakers will take to break in as it does sound a little harsh right out of the box as expected.

hey congrats .. im just waiting for mine.. in rosenut.. the dust shows alot more on the glossy black.. and i wanted to save a bit of cash for my amp.. but i think rosenut looks good in most rooms..

let em play moderately for 10 20 hrs.. think ive read some reviewers wait a week before critical listening..

enjoy
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post #26866 of 28091
3/2/13 at 10:10am
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Originally Posted by ayrton View Post

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Originally Posted by deltadube View Post

i just bought the studio 100s cc690 and adp 590s.. and then bought an emotiva xpa 3 200 wpc for the front .. well that will put a dent in the bank account yikes..

later on will want to add a better sub and more amps mono blocks for the towers.. emotiva has a new mono block coming out in a few days with class A pure power..

so rumor has it.. 250 wpc.. class A power dont really know what it means but i hear its great stuff.. could be awesome with the 100s..

the xpa 3 will do fine for now.. my denon 3313ci can power the backs surrounds.. the adp 590 is only rated for 130 watts.. should be a pretty good system for movies and music..

going to be a long weekend..

cheers..

Exactly what I had. You're going to love it. The XPA-3 is a big help to the front three.

Pictures please when you're connected.

sure some pics are nice eh.. my room is being built.. but i will set up in my living room for now.. im a slow builder due to some physical limitations love the diy work tho..

cheers
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post #26867 of 28091
3/2/13 at 10:15am
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Originally Posted by deltadube View Post

hey congrats .. im just waiting for mine.. in rosenut.. the dust shows alot more on the glossy black.. and i wanted to save a bit of cash for my amp.. but i think rosenut looks good in most rooms..

let em play moderately for 10 20 hrs.. think ive read some reviewers wait a week before critical listening..

enjoy
Thanks! How long is the expected wait before it arrives? Mine was originally 1 week, but then after 1 week passed they said it was actually back ordered and will be here the next week. So it took 2 weeks total. I told the wife to let the speakers play all day today (I'm at work for 13 hours).

I've just briefly listened to some mp3's I have and some HD radio since I had little time with them. They sure sounded a lot better in the showroom. The Diana Krall cd they were playing had a lifted soundstage, the speakers became transparent, the sound was full. With the ****** sources I'm playing...is it true ****** sources will become even more ****** played? Lol. Should I expect good soundstage at all from downloaded Mp3's or HD radio? Is that lifted soundstage effect from the source or just a characteristic of the speakers regardless of source?
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post #26868 of 28091
3/2/13 at 10:37am
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Originally Posted by deltadube View Post

sure some pics are nice eh.. my room is being built.. but i will set up in my living room for now.. im a slow builder due to some physical limitations love the diy work tho..

cheers

Enjoy them when you get them. They are great speakers.

As for the color, personal preference I suppose. I have the black ash and think it is great. But all clearly a personal choice. So long as it matches your room, that is the best color.
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post #26869 of 28091
3/2/13 at 10:51am
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Originally Posted by Tank_PD View Post

Class A will run very warm and will draw nearly full power even at idle, but is said to sound the best. Class A amps are typically very pricey as well.

The XPA 3 is A/B and mine runs cool even at high output. (Driving S8s and C5) Never had the fan/s come on.
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post #26870 of 28091
3/2/13 at 12:01pm
Personal preference for sure. The Rosenut is certainly a beautiful finish, but I wanted my speakers to blend in with the rest of my gear, which is mostly black. Had I gone for Rosenut, the speakers would stand out a great deal more. Not necessarily a bad thing, but if I'm watching a movie, I don't want my speakers to draw my attention away from the screen, no matter how good they look!
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post #26871 of 28091
3/2/13 at 1:02pm
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Originally Posted by ayrton View Post

The XPA 3 is A/B and mine runs cool even at high output. (Driving S8s and C5) Never had the fan/s come on.

I'm glad to see many people like the Emotiva/Paradigm Signature combo. Some people have said it was way too harsh, or that the Emotiva doesn't stand up to Signatures. HA!.

I don't think the XPA amps have any fans, so they'll ever come on.
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post #26872 of 28091
3/2/13 at 1:15pm
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Originally Posted by deltadube View Post

thanks Danny good post eh.. not that im an expext, with the different frequencies in music the ohm thing is always changing yes they dip down to 4 ohms on certian frequencies..i think its an average
which i havent seen for paradigms.. but i would say they would average 8 to get that rating.. but yes they spike.. and probaly not below 4 ohms.. to get the 8 rating.. most avr cant handle 4 ohms

cheers

Yeah you are right about impedance swings based on frequency. I am no expert either I learn mostly everything from the forums. But I am basing my impedance measurements from Stereophile's (or other similar publication). They actually measured the Studio 60 to dip all the way down to 3.6 ohms, with an "average" or nominal of 6 ohms. The S8 v.2 was measured by HT magazine to dip to 4.2 ohms, and they said it was also a 6 ohm nominal speaker. My C3 dips to 3.3 ohms, and has a nominal (average) of 5 ohms. These are the actual measured impedance numbers. So Paradigm claims "compatible with 8 ohms" as to mean 8 ohm nominal, but usually they are off by a good margin. As I have stated in a earlier post a few pages back, it is my assumption that Paradigm does this in an attempt to not scare away people from driving them with a receiver (Anthem MRX-X00) or those who can't afford to buy a good amp from buying their speakers. However, Paradigm speakers are not easy to drive. That is the truth.
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3/2/13 at 2:05pm
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hey congrats .. im just waiting for mine.. in rosenut.. the dust shows alot more on the glossy black.. and i wanted to save a bit of cash for my amp.. but i think rosenut looks good in most rooms..

let em play moderately for 10 20 hrs.. think ive read some reviewers wait a week before critical listening..

enjoy
Thanks! How long is the expected wait before it arrives? Mine was originally 1 week, but then after 1 week passed they said it was actually back ordered and will be here the next week. So it took 2 weeks total. I told the wife to let the speakers play all day today (I'm at work for 13 hours).

I've just briefly listened to some mp3's I have and some HD radio since I had little time with them. They sure sounded a lot better in the showroom. The Diana Krall cd they were playing had a lifted soundstage, the speakers became transparent, the sound was full. With the ****** sources I'm playing...is it true ****** sources will become even more ****** played? Lol. Should I expect good soundstage at all from downloaded Mp3's or HD radio? Is that lifted soundstage effect from the source or just a characteristic of the speakers regardless of source?

mp3 hd not great source from what i know.. cd player or records... be better..

i think you need to consider room acoustic more than likely biggest difference from store..

cheers..
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post #26874 of 28091
3/2/13 at 2:24pm
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Class A will run very warm and will draw nearly full power even at idle, but is said to sound the best. Class A amps are typically very pricey as well.

The XPA 3 is A/B and mine runs cool even at high output. (Driving S8s and C5) Never had the fan/s come on.

i dont think the xpa 3 has a fan .... lol wow s8 top dog speaker.. nice.. way too much for my budget ..

you might want that new amp when it comes out for those..

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post #26875 of 28091
3/2/13 at 2:26pm
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Originally Posted by tboe77 View Post

Personal preference for sure. The Rosenut is certainly a beautiful finish, but I wanted my speakers to blend in with the rest of my gear, which is mostly black. Had I gone for Rosenut, the speakers would stand out a great deal more. Not necessarily a bad thing, but if I'm watching a movie, I don't want my speakers to draw my attention away from the screen, no matter how good they look!

really doesnt matter what colour to me within reason... its how they sound ..

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post #26876 of 28091
3/2/13 at 2:29pm
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Originally Posted by deltadube View Post

thanks Danny good post eh.. not that im an expext, with the different frequencies in music the ohm thing is always changing yes they dip down to 4 ohms on certian frequencies..i think its an average
which i havent seen for paradigms.. but i would say they would average 8 to get that rating.. but yes they spike.. and probaly not below 4 ohms.. to get the 8 rating.. most avr cant handle 4 ohms

cheers

Yeah you are right about impedance swings based on frequency. I am no expert either I learn mostly everything from the forums. But I am basing my impedance measurements from Stereophile's (or other similar publication). They actually measured the Studio 60 to dip all the way down to 3.6 ohms, with an "average" or nominal of 6 ohms. The S8 v.2 was measured by HT magazine to dip to 4.2 ohms, and they said it was also a 6 ohm nominal speaker. My C3 dips to 3.3 ohms, and has a nominal (average) of 5 ohms. These are the actual measured impedance numbers. So Paradigm claims "compatible with 8 ohms" as to mean 8 ohm nominal, but usually they are off by a good margin. As I have stated in a earlier post a few pages back, it is my assumption that Paradigm does this in an attempt to not scare away people from driving them with a receiver (Anthem MRX-X00) or those who can't afford to buy a good amp from buying their speakers. However, Paradigm speakers are not easy to drive. That is the truth.

good thing i got a little amp horse power coming then biggrin.gif

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post #26877 of 28091
3/2/13 at 2:40pm
My Acurus A-200 sounds great with my Sig2 v3s.
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post #26878 of 28091
3/2/13 at 5:13pm
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Originally Posted by dannybenz View Post

I'm glad to see many people like the Emotiva/Paradigm Signature combo. Some people have said it was way too harsh, or that the Emotiva doesn't stand up to Signatures. HA!.

I don't think the XPA amps have any fans, so they'll ever come on.

Just to add my experience, I found the XPA-3 overly bright with my Paradigm Signature S6 speakers. I actually got sibilance(sounds like distortion when the vocalist pronounces an 's' or drum cymbal crash) at volume level peaks above 80db or so. I tried different sources, different pre-amps and nothing helped except getting away from Emotiva. I cringe when I hear some newbie proudly say he's ordered Emotiva amps to go with his Klipsch horn loaded speakers. With a Parasound Halo A21 amp, the sibilance was simply gone, and my Oppo 95 never sounded better, with superior imaging and bass accuracy as well as excellent mid range frequencies.

I'm sure many are having great outcomes with Emotiva, but I can't help but wonder how many newbie's don't even know what sibilance is or sounds like.
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post #26879 of 28091
3/2/13 at 5:50pm
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Originally Posted by tboe77 View Post

Personal preference for sure. The Rosenut is certainly a beautiful finish, but I wanted my speakers to blend in with the rest of my gear, which is mostly black. Had I gone for Rosenut, the speakers would stand out a great deal more. Not necessarily a bad thing, but if I'm watching a movie, I don't want my speakers to draw my attention away from the screen, no matter how good they look!
Yeah the only reason I considered black was for this reason but it is an important factor. I was actually leaning towards the ash blacks because of my decor. I've only ever owned black speakers actually.

And while I'm not married yet, it's sad to say the WAF factor has played a role in my decision making...
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post #26880 of 28091
3/2/13 at 7:33pm
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Originally Posted by runnin' View Post

Just to add my experience, I found the XPA-3 overly bright with my Paradigm Signature S6 speakers. I actually got sibilance(sounds like distortion when the vocalist pronounces an 's' or drum cymbal crash) at volume level peaks above 80db or so. I tried different sources, different pre-amps and nothing helped except getting away from Emotiva. I cringe when I hear some newbie proudly say he's ordered Emotiva amps to go with his Klipsch horn loaded speakers. With a Parasound Halo A21 amp, the sibilance was simply gone, and my Oppo 95 never sounded better, with superior imaging and bass accuracy as well as excellent mid range frequencies.

I'm sure many are having great outcomes with Emotiva, but I can't help but wonder how many newbie's don't even know what sibilance is or sounds like.

Yeah, I don't disagree that there is sibilance with the combo, but IMHO, it isn't to the point where it is harsh. What I did was, I cut a piece of Kleenex the size of the tweeter and put it in between the grill and the tweeter. I helped remove some of the sibilance. It's still there, but doesn't bother me. Maybe one day I will try some Parasound Halo's, if I don't end up with new speakers first. BTW I feel the same way when people pair Klipsch horn loaded speakers with an Emotiva. Emotiva isn't the end all be all of amps, but dollar for dollar, they are hard, almost impossible to beat.

I'm in the process of selling my speakers, so I made my first demo video of my setup before we part ways.
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