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post #27091 of 28085
3/16/13 at 10:34pm
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The dealer I bought my Anthem preamp from said he would not recommend the MRX 700 - I was surprised; however, this dealer has been in business for a long time and I took their recommendation as a warning shot over the bow. My AVM-2 has been flawless for the last 9 years, but recently I have been looking elsewhere at products such as Emotiva, ATI and Outlaw because of the similar experiance you're going through. I was considering the Studio 100s with 690 center, but now am apprehensive about Paradigm as well. Good luck getting your situation resolved.smile.gif
When it rains it pours. Part of my misfortune was that the Paradigm rep's brother had passed away so my issue was not dealt with swiftly. He was away for about a week for the funeral. When he returned things were resolved quickly. I should receive the replacement Studio 100 early next week.
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post #27092 of 28085
3/16/13 at 10:45pm
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No vibrations?!?! That means you need to turn it up! biggrin.gif
Haha okay I dropped the baby off at the parents house so I had some time to turn it up. Lets just say the wife went, "Wow! It's shaking the couch!" The only rattling I heard was the blinds though. I don't think anything on that table or the table itself rattled.

On a side note. Do subs ever come with spikes? The studio 100's came with optional spikes, but the Sub 12 did not..

The Studio 100's are resting on carpet which is directly on top of ceramic tiles. No insulation between. I did not use the spikes.
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post #27093 of 28085
3/17/13 at 8:59am
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Originally Posted by deltadube View Post

just curious what did your dealer want to sell you instead of the anthem mrx 700?

paradigms 100s rock...

emotiva xpa 3 working great too..

cheers

They suggested the Anthem separates and if I could not afford, then move to a Marantz stack. The Marantz stack (AV 7701 & 7055) would be less than the AVM 50 v.
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post #27094 of 28085
3/17/13 at 9:22am
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just curious what did your dealer want to sell you instead of the anthem mrx 700?

You could always go with an MRX-300 and either Outlaw, Emotiva, ATI separate amp;

Also, the manager of a hi-end, local shop (Anthem, Integra, Rotel, 30 yrs in the business) in my area is using an MRX-700 for his own personal use....

I use an MRX-500, Outlaw 7500 amp, Studio 60's, and it is sweet.....
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post #27095 of 28085
3/17/13 at 9:51am
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Originally Posted by jmacari View Post

You could always go with an MRX-300 and either Outlaw, Emotiva, ATI separate amp;

Also, the manager of a hi-end, local shop (Anthem, Integra, Rotel, 30 yrs in the business) in my area is using an MRX-700 for his own personal use....

I use an MRX-500, Outlaw 7500 amp, Studio 60's, and it is sweet.....

If I go with a separate amp, then I want to get a good pre/pro. It just bothers me that all the amp hardware in the receiver is not doing anything for me - seems like a waste. I would prefer something like the Integra/Outlaw or Emotiva. This is only because I can't afford the the AVM 50v. If I go receiver route, then based on reviews I would also consider the Pioneer SC-68.
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post #27096 of 28085
3/17/13 at 3:43pm
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No vibrations?!?! That means you need to turn it up! biggrin.gif
Haha okay I dropped the baby off at the parents house so I had some time to turn it up. Lets just say the wife went, "Wow! It's shaking the couch!" The only rattling I heard was the blinds though. I don't think anything on that table or the table itself rattled.

On a side note. Do subs ever come with spikes? The studio 100's came with optional spikes, but the Sub 12 did not..

The Studio 100's are resting on carpet which is directly on top of ceramic tiles. No insulation between. I did not use the spikes.

if you really want your 12 inch woofer to rock .. build a diy sub riser.. i just built one yesterday its is awesome really improve my subs bass

http://forum.blu-ray.com/showthread.php?t=103410

yeah some subs have spikes..

big rubber feet best i would think..

ps my 100s with the amp will shake the couch no sub needed biggrin.gifbiggrin.gifbiggrin.gif
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post #27097 of 28085
3/17/13 at 3:49pm
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Originally Posted by deltadube View Post

just curious what did your dealer want to sell you instead of the anthem mrx 700?

paradigms 100s rock...

emotiva xpa 3 working great too..

cheers

They suggested the Anthem separates and if I could not afford, then move to a Marantz stack. The Marantz stack (AV 7701 & 7055) would be less than the AVM 50 v.

im really happy with my denon 3313 ci with the emotiva xpa 3 amp.. wow what a different..

the denon is still the processor and will do a good job for a few yrs.. then maybe emotiva preamps

i do want to add more amps to my system.. i LIKE IT.. biggrin.gif maybe monoblocks x 2 or the xpa 2 have to see about how the cash is..

also want to buy a few bad ass subs.. biggrin.gif when i get my room finished. .. and some more surround speakers..

maybe for christmass if im good

cheers..
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post #27098 of 28085
3/17/13 at 3:56pm
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Originally Posted by jmacari View Post

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just curious what did your dealer want to sell you instead of the anthem mrx 700?

You could always go with an MRX-300 and either Outlaw, Emotiva, ATI separate amp;

Also, the manager of a hi-end, local shop (Anthem, Integra, Rotel, 30 yrs in the business) in my area is using an MRX-700 for his own personal use....

I use an MRX-500, Outlaw 7500 amp, Studio 60's, and it is sweet.....

wow thats really over amping the studio 60 eh do you set a volume limiter? case you accidentally hit the up button.. ive done it a few times in the dark..

im using emotivas xpa 3 on the 100s really sweet too.. with the denon 3313ci ... for the money you cant beat emotiva amps i like em..

cheers
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post #27099 of 28085
3/17/13 at 4:29pm
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Originally Posted by deltadube View Post

wow thats really over amping the studio 60 eh do you set a volume limiter?

How so?
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post #27100 of 28085
3/17/13 at 4:37pm
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wow thats really over amping the studio 60 eh do you set a volume limiter?

How so?

in my denon 3313 ci.. under audio i think then volume you can set the mute levels start up levels and limit the volume out put to -20, -10 db, 0 or off..

the dynamic peak volume still pass though but you cant turn it up anymore at that point..

if you hold the volume button down it goes up or down really fast ive done it a few times in the dark or put my tea on the remote.. the limiter saved me...

cheers..
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post #27101 of 28085
3/17/13 at 4:41pm
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wow thats really over amping the studio 60 eh do you set a volume limiter?

How so?

or did you want to know about the over amping that paradigm recommends but to be carefully about it under or over amping..

paradigm only recomends 230 watts max amp for the 60s and 170 watts max input.. so at 325 into 8 ohms and dont know the 4 omh level of the amp he has
speakers would be in trouble quick at 0 db.. almost double the max input..

cheers..
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post #27102 of 28085
3/17/13 at 5:49pm
Don't worry about "over amping".

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post #27103 of 28085
3/17/13 at 5:58pm
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Don't worry about "over amping".

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Do worry about "clipping" wink.gif
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post #27104 of 28085
3/17/13 at 6:05pm
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wow thats really over amping the studio 60 eh do you set a volume limiter? case you accidentally hit the up button.. ive done it a few times in the dark..

no problems at all.....I am the only one who uses that remote...LOL

I've pushed Phase Technology bookshelf speakers in 2 channel mode with the Outlaw....

Volume setting is at -36 when the AVR comes on; If I listen to music LOUD,LOUD, I am usually only at about -16;

I remember watching IMAX:Hubble recently, the rocket take-off scene....I thought I was going to blow out the windows......speakers, AVR, amp, handled it all without skipping a beat....same thing with "Cream: Royal Albert Hall (2005)"..(Jack Bruce ...LOL....!!!!)

Under-amping (clipping) is the bad stuff......
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post #27105 of 28085
3/17/13 at 7:01pm
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Originally Posted by unavol View Post

No vibrations?!?! That means you need to turn it up! biggrin.gif

Haha okay I dropped the baby off at the parents house so I had some time to turn it up. Lets just say the wife went, "Wow! It's shaking the couch!" The only rattling I heard was the blinds though. I don't think anything on that table or the table itself rattled.

That's what I'm talking about. Crank it up and enjoy, my friend!
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post #27106 of 28085
3/17/13 at 7:14pm
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Don't worry about "over amping".

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Do worry about "clipping" wink.gif

for sure..
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post #27107 of 28085
3/17/13 at 7:19pm
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Originally Posted by jmacari View Post

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wow thats really over amping the studio 60 eh do you set a volume limiter? case you accidentally hit the up button.. ive done it a few times in the dark..

no problems at all.....I am the only one who uses that remote...LOL

I've pushed Phase Technology bookshelf speakers in 2 channel mode with the Outlaw....

Volume setting is at -36 when the AVR comes on; If I listen to music LOUD,LOUD, I am usually only at about -16;

I remember watching IMAX:Hubble recently, the rocket take-off scene....I thought I was going to blow out the windows......speakers, AVR, amp, handled it all without skipping a beat....same thing with "Cream: Royal Albert Hall (2005)"..(Jack Bruce ...LOL....!!!!)

Under-amping (clipping) is the bad stuff......

as i said which you cut out from the quote paradigms recommends over amping but 325 watts to 170 is extreme.. paradigm also recomends be care on both sides of the story..

under and over.. one day an old buddy will drop you hit the can after a few beers.. and your buddy hits the up volume LOL

guess i should get some xpa 1 mono blocks for my 100s just a bit more extreme biggrin.gif

cheers..
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post #27108 of 28085
3/17/13 at 7:21pm
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Originally Posted by unavol View Post

No vibrations?!?! That means you need to turn it up! biggrin.gif

Haha okay I dropped the baby off at the parents house so I had some time to turn it up. Lets just say the wife went, "Wow! It's shaking the couch!" The only rattling I heard was the blinds though. I don't think anything on that table or the table itself rattled.

That's what I'm talking about. Crank it up and enjoy, my friend!

let em break in a bit eh..

i just hammered them a few times...

lol..
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post #27109 of 28085
3/17/13 at 7:21pm
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Haha okay I dropped the baby off at the parents house so I had some time to turn it up. Lets just say the wife went, "Wow! It's shaking the couch!" The only rattling I heard was the blinds though. I don't think anything on that table or the table itself rattled.

On a side note. Do subs ever come with spikes? The studio 100's came with optional spikes, but the Sub 12 did not..

The Studio 100's are resting on carpet which is directly on top of ceramic tiles. No insulation between. I did not use the spikes.

Do your self a favor and look into getting a "auralex subdude". Google it if your not sure what it is. I have one on each of my seismic 12's. They were downfiring on laminate \ hardwood floor. Before the subdudes the subs would flex my floor 1/2" and effect the sound. Now there perfect. You could always do what Delta said to, and build ur own.
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post #27110 of 28085
3/17/13 at 7:26pm
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one day an old buddy will drop you hit the can after a few beers.. and your buddy hits the up volume LOL

...don't drink no more....quit 31 years ago; old friends don't drink no more either...LOL
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post #27111 of 28085
3/17/13 at 8:32pm
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one day an old buddy will drop you hit the can after a few beers.. and your buddy hits the up volume LOL

...don't drink no more....quit 31 years ago; old friends don't drink no more either...LOL

wow theres alot of that going on around here eh..

i dont drink no more either!

cheers..
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post #27112 of 28085
3/18/13 at 4:32am
Perhaps someone can help me. I'm interested in the Studio 20 v5's ... wanted to ask a question. What kind of frequency response do they have? I'm looking for a speaker that preferably has a flat anechoic response, so I don't know how well the 20 v.5 performs. Based on my readings from Harman people prefer speakers with a flatter response, so I want to know how good the v20's fair under the test bench?

Are the Studio's flat? Or what about the Signature S2? Your thoughts would be appreciated.
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post #27113 of 28085
3/18/13 at 5:46am
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...don't drink no more....quit 31 years ago; old friends don't drink no more either...LOL

Friend of Bill's here...

Anyways, if your drunk friend does crank it up too loud, you definitely want to be "over amped" to avoid clipping. If I were to crank it beyond rock concert levels, I would sure as hell want an amp that FAR exceeds the power handling of my speakers over an amp that has a power rating only a bit more than my speakers are rated for. But, I never listen THAT loud, so I guess 368W (which is what my UPA-1 does into 4 ohms) is enough for me, which is just about twice what my speakers are rated for..
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post #27114 of 28085
3/18/13 at 5:57am
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Perhaps someone can help me. I'm interested in the Studio 20 v5's ... wanted to ask a question. What kind of frequency response do they have? I'm looking for a speaker that preferably has a flat anechoic response, so I don't know how well the 20 v.5 performs. Based on my readings from Harman people prefer speakers with a flatter response, so I want to know how good the v20's fair under the test bench?

Are the Studio's flat? Or what about the Signature S2? Your thoughts would be appreciated.

Graphs for the Studio 20 v.5 are here. These are actual 3rd party measurments. Took all of 10 seconds to Google.
http://www.stereophile.com/content/paradigm-reference-studio-20-v5-loudspeaker-measurements
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post #27115 of 28085
3/18/13 at 7:00am
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Friend of Bill's here...

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post #27116 of 28085
3/18/13 at 8:23am
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Originally Posted by Heinrich S View Post

Perhaps someone can help me. I'm interested in the Studio 20 v5's ... wanted to ask a question. What kind of frequency response do they have? I'm looking for a speaker that preferably has a flat anechoic response, so I don't know how well the 20 v.5 performs. Based on my readings from Harman people prefer speakers with a flatter response, so I want to know how good the v20's fair under the test bench?

Are the Studio's flat? Or what about the Signature S2? Your thoughts would be appreciated.

I'm sure charts are good and all but remember two things are more important than that, your ears' opinion and the room's acoustical properties. I've seen it where cheaper speakers in an acoustically friendly room sounded better than higher quality speakers in an acoustically nightmarish room. Though, first hand, I know how hard it is to find a dealer that has both lines on display to audition in the same place to get my ears' opinion.
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post #27117 of 28085
3/18/13 at 11:39am
Awesome friend of bill here to! God bless
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post #27118 of 28085
3/18/13 at 2:25pm
who is Bill....

i know Bill comes knocking at my door alot..

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post #27119 of 28085
3/18/13 at 2:33pm
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Originally Posted by Heinrich S View Post

Perhaps someone can help me. I'm interested in the Studio 20 v5's ... wanted to ask a question. What kind of frequency response do they have? I'm looking for a speaker that preferably has a flat anechoic response, so I don't know how well the 20 v.5 performs. Based on my readings from Harman people prefer speakers with a flatter response, so I want to know how good the v20's fair under the test bench?

Are the Studio's flat? Or what about the Signature S2? Your thoughts would be appreciated.

I haven't measured the V5s or the latest S2s but in general these series by Paradigm measure very well. You are correct in blind tests most people prefer speakers with a flat frequency response with a good off axis response. The Paradigms do very well in this regard. The S2s are definitely better but the Studios are a good value.

http://www.soundstagemagazine.com/measurements/paradigm_studio20_v3/

http://www.soundstagemagazine.com/measurements/paradigm_signature_s2/
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post #27120 of 28085
3/18/13 at 2:39pm
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who is Bill....

i know Bill comes knocking at my door alot..

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If you're not friends of bill, who are you friends with? Jack?
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