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post #28201 of 30071
The only thing I don't like about the sig S1 is the funky curved bottom.
Makes it very hard to mount on conventional,inexpensive speaker stands.
The paradigm speaker stand for the S1 isn't cheap either!

The same curved bottom can make wall mounting a challenge also.
post #28202 of 30071
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Originally Posted by BobL View Post

Identical fronts are preferred when possible, it has been stressed in many HT and acoustic classes.  Whichever direction you go angle the center speaker upward toward your ears. 

That's the only way to go smile.gifsmile.gif Even better would be identical all the way around,!
post #28203 of 30071
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Originally Posted by BobL View Post

Identical fronts are preferred when possible, it has been stressed in many HT and acoustic classes.  Whichever direction you go angle the center speaker upward toward your ears. 
+1, but the dialogue lift does work well on the Yammy's.
post #28204 of 30071
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Originally Posted by grasshoppers View PostThe only thing I don't like about the sig S1 is the funky curved bottom.  Makes it very hard to mount on conventional,inexpensive speaker stands. The paradigm speaker stand for the S1 isn't cheap either!  The same curved bottom can make wall mounting a challenge also.

+1 yes I agree, but the sound is great :)

post #28205 of 30071
7 S1's for movies is serious overkill for surround speakers. I say go with 3 S2's for the main three and 4 Studio10's. There is no reason to go with identical speakers all around if you aren't doing multi channel music. You would get better results focusing on the main 3 speakers for dialogue and awesome 2 channel music. The Studios sound close enough to the Signatures that you won't notice a difference in during effects

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post #28206 of 30071
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Originally Posted by grasshoppers View Post

I have not seen too much interest on the SE series on this thread.
I received my new rosenut center and SE1 bookshelf speakers
today and thought i would post a pic of them.
The real wood veneer of the speakers looks great and i was
very surprised as to how heavy they are.

They will be replacing a pair of mini-monitorsV5 and a cc-190v6
in my bedroom 3.1 set-up. (I guess I could use the mini's as rear surrounds for 5.1)
Alas I wont be able to listen to them this weekend as I have an out of town weekend
work project.mad.gif Bummer



Being a discontinued product the price could not be beat and I got free shipping
and 5 year warranty from an authorized Paradigm dealer!!!

Edit: LOL...looks like in the pic the speakers are upside down!biggrin.gif
I just finished unpacking them.
Rest assured I will install them right side up.

Those rosenut SEs do look very nice. Have you had a chance to set them up and listen yet? How are you going to mount them...on a shelf or stands?
post #28207 of 30071
Hello,

I'm French and I'm proud to show you my new Paradigm speaker CC590 center!!!!!!

Please let me share you some pictures from France:

This is my old center from BC Acoustique name is Axe


Here is my new CC590 (note: the BC Acoustique is hidden behind her)


A look of the different size:








Thank you very much for your time.

Kiss from France
post #28208 of 30071
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Originally Posted by unavol View Post

Those rosenut SEs do look very nice. Have you had a chance to set them up and listen yet? How are you going to mount them...on a shelf or stands?

I stand mounted them to the left and Right of My dresser. Put the center on the
dresser, TV on top of the center. They sound great.Big improvement over the Monitors!
post #28209 of 30071
Very nice Skyzook, congratulations!
I'll bet you're going to love the sound also wink.gif
post #28210 of 30071
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Originally Posted by Ishniknork View Post

Very nice Skyzook, congratulations!
I'll bet you're going to love the sound also wink.gif

I agree! Those are a work of art, in sound as well as build.
post #28211 of 30071
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Originally Posted by wse View Post

I am looking to sell my JL AUDIO FATHOM F113 then I can buy two Paradigm SUB2


Two Sub 2's eek.gif Now that's going to be some serious bass and one mega upgrade from what you have now. A Sub 15 would be more or less a parallel move with perhaps a single Sub 1 being an upgrade let alone a single Sub 2 so two Sub 2's will rock your foundation and save you some money over say two Gotham's if you were so inclined to go that route and I always suspected that the Sub 2 would out perform the Gotham.

Paradigm subs are great anyways regardless of the model.
post #28212 of 30071
Hi New to forum and have some questions on how you guys are setting up your speakers. I have monitor 9's 6v, center cc-290, surrounds adp-390 and rears mini monitors. I am upgrading av to marantz pre/pro 8801/8077 next week. Guys with similar setup are you letting your av with 32 do setup or are you doing custom settings. And what will be best speakers to small and what sub you guys running and where you setting crossover. Been talking to rythmik and looking at f25 and the f15hp. Are these going to blend good with my setup?
post #28213 of 30071
Hi New to forum and have some questions on how you guys are setting up your speakers. I have monitor 9's 6v, center cc-290, surrounds adp-390 and rears mini monitors. I am upgrading av to marantz pre/pro 8801/8077 next week. Guys with similar setup are you letting your av with 32 do setup or are you doing custom settings. And what will be best speakers to small and what sub you guys running and where you setting crossover. Been talking to rythmik and looking at f25 and the f15hp. Are these going to blend good with my setup?
post #28214 of 30071
Sorry about double post. Phone is jacked.
Edited by 90s mash - 6/21/13 at 3:15am
post #28215 of 30071
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Originally Posted by 90s mash View Post

Hi New to forum and have some questions on how you guys are setting up your speakers. I have monitor 9's 6v, center cc-290, surrounds adp-390 and rears mini monitors. I am upgrading av to marantz pre/pro 8801/8077 next week. Guys with similar setup are you letting your av with 32 do setup or are you doing custom settings. And what will be best speakers to small and what sub you guys running and where you setting crossover. Been talking to rythmik and looking at f25 and the f15hp. Are these going to blend good with my setup?

Check out the Denon AVR-X4000 before you drop the coin on the 8801. For my particular setup I let XT32 do the calibrating and it was a big improvement over XT. I don't have the patience or know how to do manual calibrations. The general preference is to set speakers to small and cross them at 80 Hz but experiment and see what sounds best to you in your environment. As far as the subs blending...any good sub will blend well for you. Hopefully your environment gives you some leeway on where the sub can go (do the sub crawl to determine best placement). My sub can only go in one place and I know I'm not getting the best bass where it's at unfortunately (XT32 does help a lot with that though). Read the Audyssey FAQ's on how to calibrate with Audyssey, it's commonly not done right (i.e. use all the calibration points even if you don't have that many seats).
post #28216 of 30071
Is a Marantz 5007 enough for Studio 60s? Or do they need more power from a seperate amp? Probably start with just the mains and a sub, adding the center and surrounds later when more funds come available.
post #28217 of 30071
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Is a Marantz 5007 enough for Studio 60s? Or do they need more power from a seperate amp?
The 5007 is plenty for Studio 60s. My Marantz SR6003 powers my Studio 60v4s, no problem.
post #28218 of 30071
Hi 90's. I do have a similar setup and my f15hp sounds great with it. It replaced a an old PS1000 Paradigm that struggled to survive in my large room. I used Audyssey and set crossover to 80 Hz. Im driving 9 speakers with my Onkyo so I thought it best to leave crossover at 80 to save some power requirements on the mains.
post #28219 of 30071
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Originally Posted by Skyzook View Post

Hello,I'm French and I'm proud to show you my new Paradigm speaker CC590 center!!!!!! Please let me share you some pictures from France:

This is my old center from BC Acoustique name is Axe

Here is my new CC590 (note: the BC Acoustique is hidden behind her)

A look of the different size:








Thank you very much for your time.

Kiss from France

Smack to you too:) tres Jolie!
post #28220 of 30071
Since I installed my outdoor paradigms two years ago, I always have to post something about them during the summer months. I live in the Philly area so I only get to enjoy them for about 5 months out of the year, but they are worth every penny ($600 worth). I love this hobby, but during the spring and summer I'd much rather be outside. So after three years of using a dock for my yard I decided to invest in stylus 370-SM's. http://www.paradigm.com/products/products-by-category/custom-outdoor/paradigm/stylus-series/stylus-370-sm. One of the best moves I've ever made. I now have quality sound outdoors. If you have an outdoor area and multiple zones, I highly suggest considering is option. My friends and family are wowed, and I love grilling, having a cold one and enjoying being out of the house when the weathers nice. My only regrets that I didn't do it sooner. Food for thought.
post #28221 of 30071
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Originally Posted by pappaduke View Post

Since I installed my outdoor paradigms two years ago, I always have to post something about them during the summer months. I live in the Philly area so I only get to enjoy them for about 5 months out of the year, but they are worth every penny ($600 worth). I love this hobby, but during the spring and summer I'd much rather be outside. So after three years of using a dock for my yard I decided to invest in stylus 370-SM's. http://www.paradigm.com/products/products-by-category/custom-outdoor/paradigm/stylus-series/stylus-370-sm. One of the best moves I've ever made. I now have quality sound outdoors. If you have an outdoor area and multiple zones, I highly suggest considering is option. My friends and family are wowed, and I love grilling, having a cold one and enjoying being out of the house when the weathers nice. My only regrets that I didn't do it sooner. Food for thought.


I could not agree more with you. I own the Stylus 470 mounted in my covered
Patio,playing off of a zone 2 set-up. Great investment. I am lucky in AZ I can
Listen about 10 months out of the year. biggrin.gif. I fired up te smoker today,cranked
Up the speakers and did some yard work. Great Day!
post #28222 of 30071
Count me as another Sylus fan. Even though I have all B&W inside, I wanted to mix things up a little for outside and discovered the Stylus 250 speakers. They've been my outdoor speakers for about 10 years. Being in northern Cal, I leave them outside about 7 months out of the year; really like them.
post #28223 of 30071
Hi everyone,

Has anyone compared the Paradigm Studio 20 to the Signature S2 v3? Is the performance jump huge? Or not really? Because the price jump certainly is massive. I was thinking of the getting the Studio 20's with CC590 center and ADP590 surrounds. But if the performance of the S2 v3 is significantly improved then I'll rather wait and save for up it.

Also, what do people think of the CC590 center? Is it a very good center speaker? Would the CC690 be better? Having 2 bookshelves with a giant center might look a bit ... err.. strange. But if the dialog clarity is better, I might consider it. What are your thoughts?
post #28224 of 30071
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Originally Posted by Heinrich S View Post

Hi everyone,

Has anyone compared the Paradigm Studio 20 to the Signature S2 v3? Is the performance jump huge? Or not really? Because the price jump certainly is massive. I was thinking of the getting the Studio 20's with CC590 center and ADP590 surrounds. But if the performance of the S2 v3 is significantly improved then I'll rather wait and save for up it.

Also, what do people think of the CC590 center? Is it a very good center speaker? Would the CC690 be better? Having 2 bookshelves with a giant center might look a bit ... err.. strange. But if the dialog clarity is better, I might consider it. What are your thoughts?

Although I have not had a chance to directly compare the S2 v.3 to the Studio 20, I would highly recommend the CC-690 over the CC-590. The sound quality of the 690 is so good, and much better than the 590, IMHO.
post #28225 of 30071
So you think Studio 20's with a CC690 would be better than a CC590? Better quality in what sense? I will be using a subwoofer so the low bass performance of the CC690 will probably be underused.

My main priority is dialog intelligibility. I just want to know that I've bought a kick ass center speaker that will last me a long, long time. I'm not able to demo these speakers in my area, so I'm going off word of mouth and reviews.
post #28226 of 30071
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Originally Posted by Heinrich S View Post

So you think Studio 20's with a CC690 would be better than a CC590? Better quality in what sense? I will be using a subwoofer so the low bass performance of the CC690 will probably be underused.

My main priority is dialog intelligibility. I just want to know that I've bought a kick ass center speaker that will last me a long, long time. I'm not able to demo these speakers in my area, so I'm going off word of mouth and reviews.

It's not just the better bass of the CC-690 that makes me love it....the dialog is so crisp and clear. I had the 590 and subsequently got the 690. I never have to rewind a movie to see what someone said.
post #28227 of 30071
I bought a CC-590v5 and that same night I A/B'd it against my buddy's CC-690v5. (We both have Studio 60v4s up front.) The next day I went out and bought a 690v5 and put the 590 up for sale.

IMO, the 690 really was that much better than the 590: It had a bigger / fuller / better-balanced sound.

Almost 3-1/2 years later and I'm still loving it. It's one of the best HT purchases I've made. smile.gif
post #28228 of 30071
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Originally Posted by Heinrich S View Post

Hi everyone,

Has anyone compared the Paradigm Studio 20 to the Signature S2 v3? Is the performance jump huge? Or not really? Because the price jump certainly is massive. I was thinking of the getting the Studio 20's with CC590 center and ADP590 surrounds. But if the performance of the S2 v3 is significantly improved then I'll rather wait and save for up it.

Also, what do people think of the CC590 center? Is it a very good center speaker? Would the CC690 be better? Having 2 bookshelves with a giant center might look a bit ... err.. strange. But if the dialog clarity is better, I might consider it. What are your thoughts?

Yes, there is a significant performance jump. Auditioning different speakers is not like trying to tell the difference between amps. You won't have to try to spot the difference. It should be immediately obvious when listening to the various models.

Quite a few members have stated before that they would prefer a pair of S2s over the Studio 100s (they are similar in price). I am of the opinion going with a smaller signature setup over the studio series.
post #28229 of 30071
Let's assume you could go for the Sig series, but you lived in an apartment. Would you go for the C3 center or the C5? My budget is not unlimited, but I just want the best performance I can get for the money spent. If the CC690 is going to give me better performance for dialog compared to the C3 then I would most likely consider that option. Plus I would save a considerable amount of money. The C5 is just incredibly pricey. smile.gif

The S2 v3's are well over double the price. So you would expect an improvement. Just not sure whether the difference warrants the price increase. Have you heard the S2 v3's against the Studio 20 v5's? I used to own the Studio 100 v5 but sold them because of my move to an apartment. I loved the Studio 100's. I had the CC590 center and I didn't have much of an issue with it. It's a very solidly made center speaker, but I always felt that dialog could be slightly nasal.

Now I'm also sure the room acoustics plays a part in dialog clarity. But also heard so many people saying that the CC690 is so much better than the CC590. I'm a little conflicted, because that center is massive and I've never heard of anyone owning Studio 20's with a CC690. Seems a little ... odd, if you know what I mean. biggrin.gif
Edited by Heinrich S - 6/24/13 at 12:36pm
post #28230 of 30071
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I had the CC590 center and I didn't have much of an issue with it. It's a very solidly made center speaker, but I always felt that dialog could be slightly nasal.
The main reason I didn't like the 590 is that its 4" midrange driver "localized" dialogue (and mid-range audio in general), and it felt overwhelmed at times by the rest of the system. The 690's midrange driver is flanked by mid-bass drivers that help to "broaden" the midrange. That set-up delivers a much nicer, cleaner and richer sound overall, IMO.
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I'm a little conflicted, because that center is massive and I've never heard of anyone owning Studio 20's with a CC690. Seems a little ... odd, if you know what I mean. biggrin.gif
The 690 is physically larger than the 20s but:
- The 20s and 60s are timbre-matched with the 690.
- The 60s pair perfectly with the 690.
- There's no reason for the 20s - which are essentially a bookshelf version of th 60s - not to pair just as perfectly with the 690.

IMO, and YMMV, of course. smile.gif
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