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post #28681 of 30092
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Originally Posted by xjowxw View Post

I think I'm going with the Reference line. No one seems happy with the 370 on here (from my limiting reading here) and they seem to eventually upgrade to a 470 or 570, so thats another reason to go Reference rather than Monitor line.smile.gif

You won't be disappointed with the Studio center speakers. I wanted to go with the larger CC-590 and didn't want the sticker shock so I found a very nice used one - the biggest change that I've ever made to my Home Theater. It is an amazing speaker and I liked it so much that I upgraded my L/R mains to match. I'm sure that the CC-490 is a great speaker too, but remember that the center is the most important speaker in the group and the mid-bass in the CC-590 is excellent.
post #28682 of 30092
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Originally Posted by globalgreg View Post

My daughter knocked over my Rosenut Studio 60 and scratched the side. Does Paradigm sell any kind of touch up stain for the Rosenut finish?

Damn
How old is your daughter? I have one as well and am trying to figure out how to protect my 60s
post #28683 of 30092
Ninjahifi,

I had the same problem with my CC 690, drove me crazy, because I would get the distortion only at certain scene/frequency. as part of the troubleshooting exercise I disconnected all the speakers, turned off Audyssey and played the the movie where I was hearing the distortion , removed the grill and placed my hand over the drivers without touching them. When I swapped the L/R for the center channel I could not get the distortion. I found out that it was the mid-range on the CC 690 that was the culprit. My dealer sent me the mid/tweeter assembly which I changed and the distortion is not there. I have an earthquake cinenova grande 7 which is similar in wattage.400W is more than adequate for a 91dB speaker.
post #28684 of 30092
Tboe77 - thanks for the help, it does sound like I may be having the same problem.

rockydj- not sure I follow your procedure. Are you saying to run the L or R signal to the C and see if it still distorts? Or to put my hand close to the drivers while the center is playing to determine what driver the sound could be coming from? Yesterday I played a scene from Brave on my center that sounded bad, I swapped inputs on the amp and played same scene, same volume level, on my R speaker. The same scene did not sound bad on the tower. I immediately switched it back to the center and the bad sound was back.

I'm not really sure how to describe the sound either it's like a booming/ringing sound. In the movie there is a scene where the main character is explaining what she and her mom have decided about her marriage. She is looking at her mom (who is a bear at the time) and says "in her heart". The word "heart" is what keeps sounding bad. Almost like I'm exerting the speaker. Thing is I've heard louder explosions on the same speaker that sound great.
post #28685 of 30092
Hmmm, I've been getting a similar distortion in my 690 for a while as well. No boomy noise though.
post #28686 of 30092
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Originally Posted by ninjahifi View Post

Tboe77 - thanks for the help, it does sound like I may be having the same problem.

rockydj- not sure I follow your procedure. Are you saying to run the L or R signal to the C and see if it still distorts? Or to put my hand close to the drivers while the center is playing to determine what driver the sound could be coming from? Yesterday I played a scene from Brave on my center that sounded bad, I swapped inputs on the amp and played same scene, same volume level, on my R speaker. The same scene did not sound bad on the tower. I immediately switched it back to the center and the bad sound was back.

I'm not really sure how to describe the sound either it's like a booming/ringing sound. In the movie there is a scene where the main character is explaining what she and her mom have decided about her marriage. She is looking at her mom (who is a bear at the time) and says "in her heart". The word "heart" is what keeps sounding bad. Almost like I'm exerting the speaker. Thing is I've heard louder explosions on the same speaker that sound great.
Think he's saying listen to it in stereo (phantom center) to see if you get the same problem.
post #28687 of 30092
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Originally Posted by pgaiduk View Post

Hey mb... nice stuff but question...
Do your subs "pop" at turn on?
I have a Paradigm DSP3400 14" sub as my primary subwoofer for my home theater.
I love the beast but decided to try to even out the room by adding a second sub.
Against advice I went ahead and added a different size and model.
This is a 10" downfiring Paradigm SE Sub and it sounds great in the room.
The problem is that the big sub powers on totally silently but the newer small sub makes an annoying "pop" when it turns on.
Is it an inferior amp design?
Is it the longer cable?
Does anyone know of a solution for this?
I am electrically adept and not afraid of soldering or opening up the amp.
Thanks.

Hi pgaiduk - just FYI - I had Paradigm SE Sub before and it didn't make any "pop" during the power up sequence. However, now I have Paradigm Studio SUB 12 and this one makes this "pop". According to Paradigm technician, it is "normal" and related to the amp design. I didn't get any more details about that. Let's just hope it's harmless...
post #28688 of 30092
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Originally Posted by ninjahifi View Post

Tboe77 - thanks for the help, it does sound like I may be having the same problem.

rockydj- not sure I follow your procedure. Are you saying to run the L or R signal to the C and see if it still distorts? Or to put my hand close to the drivers while the center is playing to determine what driver the sound could be coming from? Yesterday I played a scene from Brave on my center that sounded bad, I swapped inputs on the amp and played same scene, same volume level, on my R speaker. The same scene did not sound bad on the tower. I immediately switched it back to the center and the bad sound was back.

I'm not really sure how to describe the sound either it's like a booming/ringing sound. In the movie there is a scene where the main character is explaining what she and her mom have decided about her marriage. She is looking at her mom (who is a bear at the time) and says "in her heart". The word "heart" is what keeps sounding bad. Almost like I'm exerting the speaker. Thing is I've heard louder explosions on the same speaker that sound great.

What I meant was to swap the L/R speaker cable to the center channel on your amp and see if the same scene distorts. Since the CC690 has mid/bass drivers I wanted to make sure that it wasn't the mid/bass driver at fault. Holding the hand over the driver sort of muffles the sound. If the distortion was in a particular driver holding the hand over it would decrease the distortion which meant that particular driver was faulty.

What was interesting in my case was that most of the distortion I heard during the movies were of male voice. I didn't notice the distortion in female voices.
post #28689 of 30092
rockydj -

Thanks again for the help. I did swap the center speaker cable with my right speaker. The same scene sounded perfect on the right speaker. At the same time I had the center speaker playing the right speaker information and it sounded fine. Granted there were no voices coming through the center at the time. I swapped them back and got the distortion again. I did put my hand over the mid-range driver and it does seem to lower the distortion a bit. I've decided to just take the speaker to the dealer and ask him to diagnose the problem. I'm almost sure it's the mid-range driver.
post #28690 of 30092
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Originally Posted by globalgreg View Post

My daughter knocked over my Rosenut Studio 60 and scratched the side. Does Paradigm sell any kind of touch up stain for the Rosenut finish?

Oh, that really sucks. Always wanted big floor standers but never wanted the kids, pets, vacuum, etc. to have access to the lower third of my cherished speakers. That is one reason that I've always had "bookshelf speakers" on stands - that and I like 2-way / 2.5-way speakers for some reason. I have my Paradigm Signature S4 v.2's mounted to very heavy steel Premier (Paradigm) J-23 stands filled with 50lbs of lead shot each - over 3/4 of the total weight is below the speaker - I can't even tip them over!
post #28691 of 30092
Here's what happened several years ago to one of my Signature ADP3 surround speakers before I had it mounted on the wall. My brother in law knocked it off its stand and chipped the corner. No amount of touch up paint could repair it, so Paradigm made a new cabinet for $1,000 and shipped it to my dealer. I transferred all the drivers and crossover to the new cabinet myself using a screwdriver. smile.gif

post #28692 of 30092
Hi all

I'm looking for on-wall speakers and the Cinema 400 (center) and the Cinema 200 (LR) seem right for me.

I'm only wondering about their frequency... It says "±2dB from 115 Hz - 20 kHz" on their website. I find the low frequency they can produce not low at all. By my understanding it also means a lot of frequency needs to be redirected to the sub, am I right?

There are a lot of speakers who go much lower, thus the sub doesn't need to take over a lot of work. These Cinema's can't reach deep of their own.

So I'm wondering if they would be a good choice to get a good sound overall?
post #28693 of 30092
Hi all

I'm looking for on-wall speakers and the Cinema 400 (center) and the Cinema 200 (LR) seem right for me.

I'm only wondering about their frequency... It says "±2dB from 115 Hz - 20 kHz" on their website. I find the low frequency they can produce not low at all. By my understanding it also means a lot of frequency needs to be redirected to the sub, am I right?

There are a lot of speakers who go much lower, thus the sub doesn't need to take over a lot of work. These Cinema's can't reach deep of their own.

So I'm wondering if they would be a good choice to get a good sound overall?
post #28694 of 30092
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Originally Posted by mbfleming View Post

Here's what happened several years ago to one of my Signature ADP3 surround speakers before I had it mounted on the wall. My brother in law knocked it off its stand and chipped the corner. No amount of touch up paint could repair it, so Paradigm made a new cabinet for $1,000 and shipped it to my dealer. I transferred all the drivers and crossover to the new cabinet myself using a screwdriver. smile.gif


Wow, I know the ADP3 doesn't bolt onto the J29 stand, but it would take a serious knock to knock it over. So much so that I don't even think a bolted stand would stave it. The whole thing would go over. Luckily one of my stands is in a corner you can't walk into and another ADP3 is sitting securely on a sofa table.

Did you find it easy to mount them?
post #28695 of 30092
I have a pair of Signature S2's, each with a minor crack on the top edge. Purchased them in this condition and got a great deal. Since the finish is lacquer I wanted to know if its possible to have spot repair to make it perfect like new where the repair is un noticable. Maybe a piano refinnisher?
post #28696 of 30092
Probably could be repaired by someone with skill's.

Man this wait for CEDIA is killing me........I want to know if there will be a V.6 Reference Studio series introduced ....the current ones were probably designed about 7 or 8 years ago and they can do better now. They need to stick the 30th Anniversary drivers and crossovers in the Rosenut cabinets and I will be in !!! If they are not coming out by now, then I don't really have any expectation that there will be any shown at CES......it would then make me think that they just don't want to put any new versions out.

Since they are putting out new Anthem Receivers, I have a feeling that we will get the V.6......at CEDIA....but I'm not sure why there has not been an announcement yet...to start a transition period.

I am an impatient little girl ...........cool.gif
post #28697 of 30092
I believe that the Studio v.5 line cam out in March of 2009.
post #28698 of 30092
V.5 was introduced at CEDIA in September 2008............but the tech and design (new cabinets) etc would have been worked on during the 4 or so years since the version 4's had been introduced.........many years ago.
post #28699 of 30092
I just connected my Studio system up consisting of 100,690 and adp rears. Wow the bass output on these is awesome. I set it all up to large and watched the opening scene of dark knight rises with the planes and the subs off. The bass was terrific. I thought the subs were actually on I had to double check.
post #28700 of 30092
Anyone notice the Tribute and Inspiration "Obsidian" finish on the paradigm website?

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post #28701 of 30092
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Originally Posted by Kris Deering View Post

Anyone in the market for a pair of Signature S8s, a C5 and ADPs feel free to PM me. I have a full set of V2s that I'm putting up for sale. All mint condition.

Hi there:

Are your sigs still for sale? Are you in Ontario?
post #28702 of 30092
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Originally Posted by 04rex View Post

I just connected my Studio system up consisting of 100,690 and adp rears. Wow the bass output on these is awesome. I set it all up to large and watched the opening scene of dark knight rises with the planes and the subs off. The bass was terrific. I thought the subs were actually on I had to double check.
I had a similar experience demoing my system for a couple of friends, one that was trying to decide what speakers he wanted to buy. He had listened to Def Tech's and Klipsch before but not Paradigm Studios. I played TRON: Legacy for them without the sub turned on and it blew them both away cool.gif The demo definitely swung his opinion toward Paradigm and not only for the bass, he mentioned how clean and clear they sounded compared to the others he had listened to.

Glad you like your new speakers!
post #28703 of 30092
I'm thinking about upgrading to the tributes from my 100v3's. I've seen a nice used pair for sale or should I wait for some sig 8's to appear (V1)?
post #28704 of 30092
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Originally Posted by porschetech View Post

I'm thinking about upgrading to the tributes from my 100v3's. I've seen a nice used pair for sale or should I wait for some sig 8's to appear (V1)?
Wow tributes for sale already? They haven't been out that long.
post #28705 of 30092
Does anyone use their "tilt brackets" with their cc-690 mounted beneath the display? In the manual it recommends it but do people actually use it and hear a difference?

Thanks
post #28706 of 30092
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Originally Posted by porschetech View Post

I'm thinking about upgrading to the tributes from my 100v3's. I've seen a nice used pair for sale or should I wait for some sig 8's to appear (V1)?

If what people say about the sig v1 is correct, I'd wait for sig v2 or v3. I just got a pair of v2s in amazing condition. The sound is clear out of this world!
post #28707 of 30092
My update to this thread, I finally completed my 7.1 to 11.3 project! Added Wides/Heights to the front.

130" diag Scope HT (or UltraWide or 2.35:1 ) - full 11.3 via Denon 4520CI + Emotiva amp, and added Paradigm fronts/wides for 11 mains/center/surrounds and 3 subs for LFE give a 11.3 set-up
I have the IB 4 x 15" line array on Sub1 and both 18" and 15" Stereo Integrity cubes on Sub2, so technically a 11.2 I guess from a processor viewpoint.
Those 18" and 15" SI drivers in sealed cab's along front wall and side wall help flatten the in room response in my 2 row, 8 seat, 11.3 HT.

The panorama stitching in PSE made the curved look to the ceiling acoustic clouds, they are straight in real world.
Front image:
HT%252011.3%2520cover%2520off%2520Pano-b.jpg

Rear image:
_MG_5464.jpg
Room specs:
Front Proj: Sony VPL-VW60 + a-lens UH380 on slide, with Darbee Darblet video processor
A/V: Denon AVR-4520CI + Emotiva XPA-3 amp
Screen: 130" DIY 2.35:1 curved screen
11.3 speakers: Paradigm Monitor 9's for front, CC-390 center, 4 ADP-390 for rear and back surround, Monitor bookshelf for wides/fronts.
2000 Onkyo 787 driving zone 2/3, which have paradigm ceiling speakers.
LFE subwoofer: 4 x 15" IB array on Sub1, plus 18" and 15" Stereo Integrity cubes on Sub2

Subjectively I've used my 4520CI and tried AudysseyDSX vs DolbyPL IIz vs DTS Neo:X™ , and honestly I've settled on NeoX as my default codec for 11.3 processing.

I truly love the enveloping surround sound of 11.3, this has satisfied my "upgrade-itis" I'd say till 2015, when I might dive into AT screen + auto masking system + 4k PJ, do some DIY CD speakers (DIY Sound group), totally re-do the acoustic treatments then, etc.
post #28708 of 30092
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Originally Posted by 04rex View Post

Does anyone use their "tilt brackets" with their cc-690 mounted beneath the display? In the manual it recommends it but do people actually use it and hear a difference?

Thanks

I use the brackets to get the tweeters to aim more to ear height. And yes, I notice a difference.
post #28709 of 30092
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Originally Posted by biggar View Post

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If what people say about the sig v1 is correct, I'd wait for sig v2 or v3. I just got a pair of v2s in amazing condition. The sound is clear out of this world!
I don't know if my wallet can stretch that far. I can do up to $4000 for a pair of sig's or tributes (used).

Papaduke there's a pair for sale on eBay. He had them for $4k inclu shipping. I had emailed him a few times showing my interest and a option to purchase. He ignored my last email, relisted the speakers and is now charging for shipping. Bidding now starts at $3850. I don't like to play games and I'm not desperate for newer speakers.
post #28710 of 30092
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Originally Posted by mtbdudex View Post

My update to this thread, I finally completed my 7.1 to 11.3 project! Added Wides/Heights to the front.

130" diag Scope HT (or UltraWide or 2.35:1 ) - full 11.3 via Denon 4520CI + Emotiva amp, and added Paradigm fronts/wides for 11 mains/center/surrounds and 3 subs for LFE give a 11.3 set-up
I have the IB 4 x 15" line array on Sub1 and both 18" and 15" Stereo Integrity cubes on Sub2, so technically a 11.2 I guess from a processor viewpoint.
Those 18" and 15" SI drivers in sealed cab's along front wall and side wall help flatten the in room response in my 2 row, 8 seat, 11.3 HT.

The panorama stitching in PSE made the curved look to the ceiling acoustic clouds, they are straight in real world.
Front image:
HT%252011.3%2520cover%2520off%2520Pano-b.jpg

Rear image:
_MG_5464.jpg
Room specs:
Front Proj: Sony VPL-VW60 + a-lens UH380 on slide, with Darbee Darblet video processor
A/V: Denon AVR-4520CI + Emotiva XPA-3 amp
Screen: 130" DIY 2.35:1 curved screen
11.3 speakers: Paradigm Monitor 9's for front, CC-390 center, 4 ADP-390 for rear and back surround, Monitor bookshelf for wides/fronts.
2000 Onkyo 787 driving zone 2/3, which have paradigm ceiling speakers.
LFE subwoofer: 4 x 15" IB array on Sub1, plus 18" and 15" Stereo Integrity cubes on Sub2

Subjectively I've used my 4520CI and tried AudysseyDSX vs DolbyPL IIz vs DTS Neo:X™ , and honestly I've settled on NeoX as my default codec for 11.3 processing.

I truly love the enveloping surround sound of 11.3, this has satisfied my "upgrade-itis" I'd say till 2015, when I might dive into AT screen + auto masking system + 4k PJ, do some DIY CD speakers (DIY Sound group), totally re-do the acoustic treatments then, etc.

That's a mad setup!!!!!!

I have those same sconce lights smile.gif
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