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post #28861 of 30095
I decided I'm going to sell my current system and use the money to switch to 2 speakers as I just listen to music now days.

Currently I have:

Two Paradigm Cinema 220s

Paradigm CC-370 v4

(And Cinema 70s which I am keeping for something else)

Which I am selling along with my spare Denon AVR-1909 receiver for a total of $479. I have them listed on craigslist, and I think that's a decent price so I imagine they will sell soon-ish.



After that I imagine my budget will be ~$800 or less.

For that price it looks like I can get the Studio 20 v3's, and maybe the v4's. Do you think either of those speakers would be the way to go?

I listen to all genres equally but I really prefer female vocals such as Norah Jones. I feel as though my current system sounds too 'sharp'.
post #28862 of 30095
^^^ I have a mint pair of studio 20v4's for sale. They really are like new. Were briefly used as rears for no more than 6 months. Don't even know if they are broken in or not.
post #28863 of 30095
Paradigm Monitor 11 Speaker System Review by Sound and Vision

http://www.soundandvision.com/content/paradigm-monitor-11-speaker-system
post #28864 of 30095
Hey,
Any one know the differences between versions 3, 4 & 5 in the Studio 20 series? I've looked on Paradigm's website and couldn't find info on the discontinued series.
The reason I ask is because I have a second 2.1 set up which right now has Atoms v6 for the main speakers and I'd like to upgrade to the 20's. The 3's usually sell for around $300-$400, the 4's around $500-$600 and the 5's between $800-$1000 used.
An authorized dealer will sell me a brand new pair of 20's in Piano Black (which is the color I like) for a little over $1300 with no tax but I don't think I want to spend that much. For as little as I use this set up should I splurge on the 5's or go cheap on the 3's? How much difference is there?
Thanx
Edited by DougReim - 10/17/13 at 11:15am
post #28865 of 30095
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Originally Posted by 02192viper View Post

Was wondering if anybody has any experience with SA-35 versus SA-30 inwalls. I have heard the 35 (loved them) but not the 30. These would be going in a 5.1 system with the main emphasis being 2 channel listening to music. I was told that since I will be using a sub, I would not see much difference upgrading to the 35s. This is going in new construction. Any advice would be much appreciated.
We installed a few SA-30's, but depending on your room size, they will not make for a very good center channel. If your room is less than 2000 cu ft, go with the 30's, but in the 3000 cu ft range, the 35's are a better fit.

As for two channel listening, again, room size is really important, with or without a sub. And if you're doing in-wall subs, make sure your installer knows about proper placement.
post #28866 of 30095
Hello Folks,

Still considering my speaker options - I just saw the Paradigm SE 3s advertised for $900 (pair). Is this a good deal? Considering speakers in the $700 range, but could go slightly higher to $900 if the cost is justified.

Would love your suggestions.


A few notes:

-- Budget for fronts L/R: $700 - $900 Max
-- Home theater to be used for movies & music (mainly classical, smooth jazz, world music - reggae, soca)
-- I already own a Denon X4000 Receiver; a BIC Acoustech PL-200 sub; 50" Pananonic HDTV; Panasonic BD-200 & PS3.


Cheers, PS
post #28867 of 30095
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Originally Posted by PundaSmith View Post

Hello Folks,

Still considering my speaker options - I just saw the Paradigm SE 3s advertised for $900 (pair). Is this a good deal? Considering speakers in the $700 range, but could go slightly higher to $900 if the cost is justified.

Would love your suggestions.


A few notes:

-- Budget for fronts L/R: $700 - $900 Max
-- Home theater to be used for movies & music (mainly classical, smooth jazz, world music - reggae, soca)
-- I already own a Denon X4000 Receiver; a BIC Acoustech PL-200 sub; 50" Pananonic HDTV; Panasonic BD-200 & PS3.


Cheers, PS

I don't have the SE3 but I recently bought the SE 1 & SE center
And am very happy with my purchase. They sound great. If the
SE3 are anywhere as good as the SE1 they are winners. $900
Is a good price as they are close out and discontinued.
One of the best bargains out there right now. If I had room
For the SE 3 in my bedroom I would have got them.
post #28868 of 30095
Has anyboby heard the S8v3 and s6v3 side by side and can offer their opinion on the difference in sound between the two? I have a chance to purchase a demo set of s6v3 gloss black from a local dealer at a good price, but also was eyeing a used S8v3 in cherry. I prefer the gloss black, but ultimately the sound is what matters. I'm 80% music/20% movies. I currently have a def tech reference sub, but eventually planning to replace it. Thanks.
post #28869 of 30095
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Originally Posted by leeshanok View Post

Has anyboby heard the S8v3 and s6v3 side by side and can offer their opinion on the difference in sound between the two? I have a chance to purchase a demo set of s6v3 gloss black from a local dealer at a good price, but also was eyeing a used S8v3 in cherry. I prefer the gloss black, but ultimately the sound is what matters. I'm 80% music/20% movies. I currently have a def tech reference sub, but eventually planning to replace it. Thanks.

I haven't heard both side by side but I do own the S6 v3. (Dealer demo)
And very happy.
I think that if you have a quality subwoofer and don't listen
At very high spl levels the S6 would be fine.

If you are all about two channel -no sub- the S8 all day
post #28870 of 30095
Both the s6 and the s8 are a no sub in 2 channel required. They are voiced the exact same and sound very similar except for low frequency extension. If you already have a great sub and plan to cross over you aren't missing much with the s6. I would recommend listening to both so you can make up your mind. Even the s2 sound incredibly similar to the s6. Once again LFE is the biggest difference you will notice. I have no desire for a sub in 2 channel for either. Occasionally I'll turn on sub1 just to hear the difference. The s2, s6 will play incredibly loud and sound great. I wouldn't use loudness as deciding factor. You would already be in ear damage territory.
post #28871 of 30095
So I went to my local dealer to listen to the S6v3. He didn't have the S8s but told me some time ago, he had both on the floor. He said in his opinion, he likes the S6s better than the S8s. He said the S8s have more bass, but it was a bit loose. He prefers the sound of the S6s. He had to really discount his S8s floor model to get it sold. He sells more S6s than S8s. I brought a couple of CDs with me that I'm familiar with. He also had a set of Focal 1028be which has the beryllium tweeter, next to the S6s. I demo'ed both, going back and forth, and to be honest, I actually liked the sound of the Focal and prefer it to the S6s. It had a more laid back sound, slightly better imaging and a nice warm full bodied midrange to the S6s. The S6s were more detailed and sweet, but a bit thin on the bottom end. But the Focals were $2k more msrp. This was the first time I had listened to a set of Focals. He gave me a really good price along with the ADP3v3, so I figured I could compensate the S6s in the bass region by using a Sub and set up ARC on my Anthem D2/Classe CA5200 combo. I will experiment with the S6s in my setup and see how well they do.
post #28872 of 30095
Sounds like the S8's could be overkill In many cases. Maybe I should consider S6's too
post #28873 of 30095
If you go with the S6s, a sub is a must, otherwise the bass will sound a little thin. After day 1 listening to the S6s in direct analog, no sub, it was easily apparent that i could no longer listen without the sub. With sub on, it filled in nicely and the overall sound was much much more enjoyable. I think without a rear firing port, like the S8s, it weaken the amount of bass.
post #28874 of 30095
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Originally Posted by leeshanok View Post

If you go with the S6s, a sub is a must, otherwise the bass will sound a little thin. After day 1 listening to the S6s in direct analog, no sub, it was easily apparent that i could no longer listen without the sub. With sub on, it filled in nicely and the overall sound was much much more enjoyable. I think without a rear firing port, like the S8s, it weaken the amount of bass.

I have always used a sub with my S6's....in fact, now
That I think of it I've never listened to them without.
Gonna have to give it a try.
post #28875 of 30095
Would you rather?

Option 1 -

Studio 100s and CC590

Option 2 -

Studio 60s and CC690

Either system will be used with a Sub15.

Ive heard the midrange of the 100s is better than the 60s. I've heard vice versa as well. Don't have anywhere to really demo /:

Thanks!!

Used to have 100s a year or two back, but dont know if much is different between them and the 60s.
post #28876 of 30095
Let me know what your impressions of the bass on the S6s without sub.
post #28877 of 30095
I have been running the Paradigm Cinema 110's since 2007. They have served me well over the years, but I've been wanting to upgrade for a while. I have my eyes on the Studio 100. The thing is that the Studio 100 has been in v5 for a few years now, does this mean they are due for an upgrade anytime soon? With the 30th Anniversary series being in the Reference line and having the Beryllium tweeters, does this mean the next version of Studio 100's will have those tweeters as well?
post #28878 of 30095
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Originally Posted by TVMAN1991 View Post

Would you rather?

Option 1 -

Studio 100s and CC590

Option 2 -

Studio 60s and CC690

Either system will be used with a Sub15.

Ive heard the midrange of the 100s is better than the 60s. I've heard vice versa as well. Don't have anywhere to really demo /:

Thanks!!

Used to have 100s a year or two back, but dont know if much is different between them and the 60s.


I went with the following setup. SUB15 would have been to much for my current room. And I figured I could always up him in a bigger room or add a second SUB12. Mid and low on the 100s is excellent. When doing two channel listening folks assume that the sub is on. The 690 is almost like having a side ways 100 and considering a vast majority of the dialogue is through the center I figured match it up on this line across from the front side. Though I am getting the itch to upgrade the 10s. I went with powered separates on the components and have not regretted it.

Speakers:
Paradigm Studio 100s
Paradigm CC690
Paradigm Studio SUB12
Paradigm Studio 10s

AV Gear:
Marantz AV7005 Audio Video Pre-Processor
Marantz MM7055 5-channel Power Amplifier
Edited by MRMOTA - 10/21/13 at 1:29pm
post #28879 of 30095
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Originally Posted by almo89 View Post

I have been running the Paradigm Cinema 110's since 2007. They have served me well over the years, but I've been wanting to upgrade for a while. I have my eyes on the Studio 100. The thing is that the Studio 100 has been in v5 for a few years now, does this mean they are due for an upgrade anytime soon? With the 30th Anniversary series being in the Reference line and having the Beryllium tweeters, does this mean the next version of Studio 100's will have those tweeters as well?

The word out at CEDIA 2013 is that the Signatures would probably be the next series to get an upgrade (Maybe by CEC 2014 in the spring?). Maybe the Reference series will get an upgrade by CEDIA 2014 if the Signatures get their upgrade in the spring. Who knows? You will not be disappointed by the current Studio 100 v5 speakers if you choose not to wait.
post #28880 of 30095
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Originally Posted by kbmitch View Post

The word out at CEDIA 2013 is that the Signatures would probably be the next series to get an upgrade (Maybe by CEC 2014 in the spring?). Maybe the Reference series will get an upgrade by CEDIA 2014 if the Signatures get their upgrade in the spring. Who knows? You will not be disappointed by the current Studio 100 v5 speakers if you choose not to wait.

Yeah I demoed the studio 100 and really loved the way they sounded. Thanks for the update
post #28881 of 30095
Still wondering what you all think is a reasonable price for a pair of used Signature ADP 1's (V.2) in bird's eye maple?

So far, I only see a pair at $1800 in "new condition" but not actually new. Just wondering what people think is a fair price before I continue spending my wife's hard-earned money :P
post #28882 of 30095
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Originally Posted by buriboi View Post

Still wondering what you all think is a reasonable price for a pair of used Signature ADP 1's (V.2) in bird's eye maple?

So far, I only see a pair at $1800 in "new condition" but not actually new. Just wondering what people think is a fair price before I continue spending my wife's hard-earned money :P


A similar pair, new, sold on ebay for $1500 not too long ago.
post #28883 of 30095
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Originally Posted by leeshanok View Post

A similar pair, new, sold on ebay for $1500 not too long ago.

Yeah, I also saw a pair of them with the matching speaker stands for about $1500 some time ago, making me think his price point is a little too high. My only fear is that he is selling birdseye maple, and those are the ones I need, but are becoming more and more rare after they were discontinued by Paradigm.

Ah, choices are tough when you're a cheapskate :P
post #28884 of 30095
I have some paradigm AMS in walls that I am looking to replace. The problem is that I can't figure out how to remove them from the wall. If anyone has some info on this, it would be greatly appreciated. Thanks.
post #28885 of 30095
Anyone interested in a pair of Studio 60s V5 rosenut brand new? Long story...
post #28886 of 30095
Might of been interested if they were black. My brother has 60's and and I have 20's. We swapped for a couple of weeks and I really liked them. I kept avoiding him when he wanted them back. wink.gif
post #28887 of 30095
I have a little dent in my CC690 V5 tweeter, plan to replace a new tweeter, but paradigm sell the tweeter in a set come with the mid for 360, and I find a guy selling me a CC690 V4 tweeter for a cheaper price.
Can someone tell me if the CC690 V4 and V5 use the same tweeter?
post #28888 of 30095
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Originally Posted by pwong888 View Post

I have a little dent in my CC690 V5 tweeter, plan to replace a new tweeter, but paradigm sell the tweeter in a set come with the mid for 360, and I find a guy selling me a CC690 V4 tweeter for a cheaper price.
Can someone tell me if the CC690 V4 and V5 use the same tweeter?
I can't answer your question (why don't you just email Paradigm) but I am wondering why you are buying the whole tweeter to fix the "little dent". I had the exact same problem with my Paradigm ADP-470 v3. Paradigm sold me the tweeter dome (diaphragm) for $20.00. Plus I had to buy a Torx socket driver for about $5.00 from NAPA. I could not believe how much of a difference the new dome made. My system suddenly had a balanced sound that I never knew it was capable of. The tech at Paradigm also gave me precise instructions for replacing the dome which I can post if you need them.
post #28889 of 30095
Quote:
Originally Posted by pwong888 View Post

I have a little dent in my CC690 V5 tweeter, plan to replace a new tweeter, but paradigm sell the tweeter in a set come with the mid for 360, and I find a guy selling me a CC690 V4 tweeter for a cheaper price.
Can someone tell me if the CC690 V4 and V5 use the same tweeter?

You might be able to remove and disassemble the tweeter removing the diaphragm and then carefully popping the dent out. I have never done this with a Paradigm tweeter, but I have been successful doing this with another brand of metal dome tweeter.
post #28890 of 30095
I wonder if you could pop out the dent with a straw and a vacuum...
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