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post #28891 of 30064
That might work too. If you could control the strength of the suction I would give that a try.
post #28892 of 30064
If you can get a brand new part for $20 that's the way to go. The diaphragm makes a lot more difference than you would think and from the experience that I went through I am 100% convinced that any damage to the diaphragm, however small, is going to have a negative impact on your sound.
post #28893 of 30064
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Originally Posted by TVMAN1991 View Post

Anyone interested in a pair of Studio 60s V5 rosenut brand new? Long story...

TVMAN1991, you got PM!

I am very interested. Please let me know if they are still available.
post #28894 of 30064
I am looking for advice on a center channel. I have a CC center V2 currently. That is matched up with Studio 80's v2. What would be the best match for a center? Is the CC the correct center for my mains? I think ideally I would like another Studio 80 as a center, but finding a single would likely be difficult.

Suggestions?
post #28895 of 30064
Yes that center is the proper match. Some people use the studio reference 20 bookshelves or larger if you have room and the TV is not in the way. The new 690 would rock although not sure if it would quite tonally match. If your not in a hurry the 80's pop up from time to time. Are you not happy with the CC ?
post #28896 of 30064
I am selling my Studio 80 v2s, cc570 v3, and adp 470 v3.... But only locally due to no boxes.
post #28897 of 30064

Hey all, I am wondering if you fellow Paradigm owner's could help me out.

 

I have a pair of Paradigm Monitor Series speakers, as well as a Paradigm subwoofer.  They are approximately a decade old, I bought them second hand many years ago. 

 

The only markings on these speakers are to indicate the brand and "Monitor Series" so I don't know anything more about them.  They are about 17" in length and appear as shown below.  I think they must be Cinema 110 v.3's but I was hoping someone could confirm.

 

I'm looking to use the speakers and sub to create a 5.1 environment.  Are these speakers worth using as the basis for a home theater system at this point?  Or would it be better to start fresh?  You can find Cinema 110 center speakers for very little money on eBay currently so that is part of why using these is appealing to me.

 

 

 

 

Thanks in advance for any possible help.

 

Adam


Edited by yempack - 10/27/13 at 10:44am
post #28898 of 30064
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Originally Posted by Jeff in Canada View Post

I think ideally I would like another Studio 80 as a center, but finding a single would likely be difficult.
Absolutely, another Studio 80 is the best solution. Especially if you plan to listen to surround music. I bought a second pair of Studio 60s so I could match my existing L & R Studio 60s to my center. Now I have a single 60 v2 that I don't use but to me it was necessary and I am more than thankful that I was able to find a pair of 60s just to get the proper center speaker.
post #28899 of 30064
60 as a center work with 80's as LR?
post #28900 of 30064
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Originally Posted by Jeff in Canada View Post

60 as a center work with 80's as LR?
My experience is that having all 3 front speakers the same gives me a very nice sound. If my room was big enough I'd have all 5 the same. Two 8s with a 6 in the center doesn't make sense to me.
post #28901 of 30064
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Originally Posted by yempack View Post

Hey all, I am wondering if you fellow Paradigm owner's could help me out.

I have a pair of Paradigm Monitor Series speakers, as well as a Paradigm subwoofer.  They are approximately a decade old, I bought them second hand many years ago. 

The only markings on these speakers are to indicate the brand and "Monitor Series" so I don't know anything more about them.  They are about 17" in length and appear as shown below.  I think they must be Cinema 110 v.3's but I was hoping someone could confirm.

I'm looking to use the speakers and sub to create a 5.1 environment.  Are these speakers worth using as the basis for a home theater system at this point?  Or would it be better to start fresh?  You can find Cinema 110 center speakers for very little money on eBay currently so that is part of why using these is appealing to me.






Thanks in advance for any possible help.

Adam

I have two V3 Cinema CCs and they look very much like them. If I had to risk a guess, I would say they are Cinema 110s. No idea the version number, though. Mine have a label on the back, near the mounting holes, that say what it is.
post #28902 of 30064
Working on the main floor where my home theater setup is located and running wires for a pair of Signature ADP3 speakers which I haven't purchased yet. I can't seem to find any information about the wiring or even a picture of the bracket or back side of the speaker. I have the area marked on the wall based on the speakers outside dimensions (13-1/4"H x 14-1/8"W) but need to know where within that area the wires should exit the wall. How close can I mount them to the ceiling, yet still be able to remove and replace the speakers? Also, do I need a recess plate or can the wires just exit a hole in the wall? BTW, if anyone has a pair for sale, please let me know. Thanks.
post #28903 of 30064
I'm new to paradigm and someone told me that paradigm is a better buy for music listening than klipsch. Researching on paradigm models, can someone tell me how better are the studio 60's over the monitor 7? The price difference is quite steep but do the studio 60's justify the price and sound that much better than the monitor 7? I can't go too very high on price. I have a mid sized room and would be using an onkyo NR 818 AVR.

And one more question, monitor 7 has been around for quite some time and they have been upgrading it over time, but how to tell by the model number or name on a website listing as to which generation model it is?
post #28904 of 30064
I am a newbie as well. My recommendation is go listen to them. I could hear the difference but it was slight to my admittedly uneducated ears. I personally would rather save the money and go with the Monitors. Most of the serious audiophiles I have talked with push the Studios or other more expensive options...so only you can decide what is worth the money.
post #28905 of 30064
The Studio 60s have better definition in the high frequencies and midrange. You can hear and distinguish each of the instruments. Also the bass response is a little better because the bass driver responds easier and pushes a bit more air. The monitor 7, though a good speaker for the price, does not have the more advanced drivers of the Studio series so it does not have same degree of definition. I have a pair of Studio 100 v5 and I can hear stuff in a piece of music that I never heard with my Monitor 11s.
post #28906 of 30064
I couldn't have said it better. A good friend of mine got a taste for home audio and did some serious upgrading. Went from owning mini monitors and was not happy until he finally ended up with studio 100's. He did all this within their 30 day return period. I myself did hear the differences every time.
post #28907 of 30064
I was reading an article on the home cinema guru website about side surround speaker designs and he used the ADP3 as an example of one with poor speaker orientation because it sends a high percentage of the sound in front of the listener which reduces the surround effect. And the opposing mid-range and tweeter drivers face the rear so they also require a rear wall perpendicular to the speakers to reflect the sound back to the listener. He felt these speakers required a specific wall configuration to work properly.

I'd appreciate any comments about this because I've been looking to replace my surrounds with the ADP3 and that article made me realize the tweeter drivers for the left surround speaker would be pointing down a hallway. Now I'm wondering if I should use another speaker instead.

Thanks
post #28908 of 30064
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Originally Posted by 65Cobra427SC View Post

I was reading an article on the home cinema guru website about side surround speaker designs and he used the ADP3 as an example of one with poor speaker orientation because it sends a high percentage of the sound in front of the listener which reduces the surround effect. And the opposing mid-range and tweeter drivers face the rear so they also require a rear wall perpendicular to the speakers to reflect the sound back to the listener. He felt these speakers required a specific wall configuration to work properly.I'd appreciate any comments about this because I've been looking to replace my surrounds with the ADP3 and that article made me realize the tweeter drivers for the left surround speaker would be pointing down a hallway. Now I'm wondering if I should use another speaker instead.Thanks

Mono pole vs bi pole vs di pole discussion.

There are so many takes on this, there is a sticky thread here that goes into specific discussion on each.

In general, you can use bi pole / di pole for side surrounds, for rear surrounds bi pole or mono pole work better.
That's a lot of generalizations in that statement.
It does depend on your room layout and speaker location.

Fwiw, my 11.3 setup has ADP390s for side and back surrounds, and monitors for the front wide / height.

They have a front firing bass driver, then are dipole for mid and tweeter.


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post #28909 of 30064
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Originally Posted by 65Cobra427SC View Post

Working on the main floor where my home theater setup is located and running wires for a pair of Signature ADP3 speakers which I haven't purchased yet. I can't seem to find any information about the wiring or even a picture of the bracket or back side of the speaker. I have the area marked on the wall based on the speakers outside dimensions (13-1/4"H x 14-1/8"W) but need to know where within that area the wires should exit the wall. How close can I mount them to the ceiling, yet still be able to remove and replace the speakers? Also, do I need a recess plate or can the wires just exit a hole in the wall? BTW, if anyone has a pair for sale, please let me know. Thanks.

I use a set of ADP3s as my rear surround speakers. Leave about 5" from the ceiling for room to remove the speakers. The bracket on the back side is near the top, about 3" down. No need for a recess plate. I have the wires coming out directly from the wall. Drill about 4" up from the bottom of the speakers for the hole, and you should be ok.
post #28910 of 30064
Would you choose studio 20's over the monitor 11 and would they sound better? Those are within my price range. I find that the studio 60s are a little overpriced and would need more space.
post #28911 of 30064
Studio 20's with a sub for those lows would be ideal
post #28912 of 30064
Quote:
Originally Posted by 65Cobra427SC View Post

I was reading an article on the home cinema guru website about side surround speaker designs and he used the ADP3 as an example of one with poor speaker orientation because it sends a high percentage of the sound in front of the listener which reduces the surround effect. And the opposing mid-range and tweeter drivers face the rear so they also require a rear wall perpendicular to the speakers to reflect the sound back to the listener. He felt these speakers required a specific wall configuration to work properly.

I'd appreciate any comments about this because I've been looking to replace my surrounds with the ADP3 and that article made me realize the tweeter drivers for the left surround speaker would be pointing down a hallway. Now I'm wondering if I should use another speaker instead.

Thanks

The ADP3 is the best surround speaker I have owned --Now that you mention it I noticed I do have a reflection point in the rear close to the speaker. When I've tried direct radiating speakers in the same position in the past I've always found myself looking at the speaker as where the sound is coming from is very localized. I find the surround channels to often be so quiet it is often hard to judge how good your surrounds are. Takes a movie like Crimson Tide, or something else with lots of LOUD surround effects, for them to really come alive.

I wouldn't let a single article persuade you either way. You may try listening to them or doing an in home demo if you can. You also may not want to make all your decisions up front. Your dealer can help design a system for your room or let you know about products you weren't considering.
post #28913 of 30064
I have ADP 1's for my rears.......love em smile.gif
Edited by porschetech - 10/29/13 at 10:05pm
post #28914 of 30064
mtbdudex... I found the sticky discussing Bipole, Dipole, Quadpole and Omnipole (what a mouthful) and will definitely read it later today. Thanks for pointing me in the right direction.

leeshanok... Thank you very much for the measurements. I managed to find a picture of back of the speaker and noticed the terminals were recessed and in the lower part of the speaker so between that and your measurements, it will be easy.

Tank_PD... It would take more than that one article to sway me but I couldn't believe it singled out the ADP3 as a poor design. I spent some time looking at other speaker designs and after thinking about it, I actually prefer (from my inexperienced point of view) the angled sides of the ADP3 over the right angle design of others and think it would work better in my room layout. Thanks.

porschetech... The little brother of the ADP3. They are my backup plan if I can't find a used pair of ADP3's in mint condition. Actually I did find mint ADP3's but they are cherry and will completely clash with everything else in the room so I'm going to pass on them.

I do have one dumb... ahem... 'off the wall' question. Assuming a custom bracket is used, has anyone ever tried to mount the ADP3 on the ceiling? The design of the speaker seems as though it could work well in that position. The question is how well. Only asking because in my situation, they would actually be easier to mount, end up in a slightly better position relative to the overall setup, and eliminate a slight headroom issue, than mounting them on the wall.

Thanks all.
post #28915 of 30064
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Originally Posted by 65Cobra427SC View Post

mtbdudex... I found the sticky discussing Bipole, Dipole, Quadpole and Omnipole (what a mouthful) and will definitely read it later today. Thanks for pointing me in the right direction.

leeshanok... Thank you very much for the measurements. I managed to find a picture of back of the speaker and noticed the terminals were recessed and in the lower part of the speaker so between that and your measurements, it will be easy.

Tank_PD... It would take more than that one article to sway me but I couldn't believe it singled out the ADP3 as a poor design. I spent some time looking at other speaker designs and after thinking about it, I actually prefer (from my inexperienced point of view) the angled sides of the ADP3 over the right angle design of others and think it would work better in my room layout. Thanks.

porschetech... The little brother of the ADP3. They are my backup plan if I can't find a used pair of ADP3's in mint condition. Actually I did find mint ADP3's but they are cherry and will completely clash with everything else in the room so I'm going to pass on them.

I do have one dumb... ahem... 'off the wall' question. Assuming a custom bracket is used, has anyone ever tried to mount the ADP3 on the ceiling? The design of the speaker seems as though it could work well in that position. The question is how well. Only asking because in my situation, they would actually be easier to mount, end up in a slightly better position relative to the overall setup, and eliminate a slight headroom issue, than mounting them on the wall.

Thanks all.

Some other related posts are
7.1 set-up of dipole surrounds (ADP-390) phase question
and my discussion where I
asked the Paradigm rep why they went from di-pole to bi-pole
post #28916 of 30064
The adp3's are bigger than the adp1's???!? Holy......it's not like the adp1 is a small speaker!
post #28917 of 30064
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Originally Posted by porschetech View Post

The adp3's are bigger than the adp1's???!? Holy......it's not like the adp1 is a small speaker!

Just makes you sick huh? biggrin.gif
post #28918 of 30064
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Originally Posted by 65Cobra427SC View Post


Just makes you sick huh? biggrin.gif
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Hahaha. I just didn't think you'd want a dipole bigger than I already have. It's not light either!
post #28919 of 30064
If it makes you feel any better they cost a lot more! Focal also makes a surround speaker of similar size in their Electra series, 2-way design. Costs 6K / pair eek.gif Makes the ADPs look decently priced by comparison.
post #28920 of 30064
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Originally Posted by porschetech View Post

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Hahaha. I just didn't think you'd want a dipole bigger than I already have. It's not light either!

Trust me, I'm not looking to spend that kind of money for surround speakers but I'm trying to stay with the Signature line since purchasing a used set of W5/W5C on-wall speakers several years ago. The ADP3 surrounds show up used periodically which is what I'm trying for. I just turned down a pair because the finish was in cherry and I'm looking for black. New would run me more than I paid for the fronts which originally sold for $3k each.
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