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post #29551 of 30072
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Originally Posted by mtbdudex View Post

That's my 11.3 set up, with wides and heights.
Look at link in my signature for details.
Also, RH side is my 4 x 15" driver infinite baffle line array, link in signature has details. I also added 2 helper subs 18" and 15" driver to smooth the modal freq response,again link in signature has details.


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Wow! Nice set up. If you watch an impact movie like Pacific Rim, your neighbors must think they're having an earthquake. Is there any source material that takes advantage of the height & width channels or does the receiver just sythesize them for the 5.1 & 7.1 sources?
post #29552 of 30072
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Originally Posted by mtbdudex View Post

That's my 11.3 set up, with wides and heights.
Look at link in my signature for details.
Also, RH side is my 4 x 15" driver infinite baffle line array, link in signature has details. I also added 2 helper subs 18" and 15" driver to smooth the modal freq response,again link in signature has details.


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Now that's dedication to the AV hobby! smile.gif

One of the great things about having a dedicated room is you can do stuff like that.

Do those heights and sides work in matrix mode most of the time, considering the lack of content mixed in 11 channel?

Have the additional speakers improved your HT experience noticeably over 7.1?
post #29553 of 30072
Kbmitch we loved pacific rim after renting bought the blu ray.
There is lots of discussion on 9.x and 11.x surround sound in the link in my signature.
For us, I always leave my Denon 4520 on NeoX surround, I'm truly amazed at how it processes the wides and fronts.

Tubehead-yes I've gone on record saying my ht experience has improved.
Note my room is properly acoustically treated to manage first reflections within 25ms of the primary direct sound to be -20db for sound above 250hz, the Schroeder translation frequency.
With 3 subs and lots of broadband bass traps the bass 200hz and below is pretty flat.

I've strongly preached to many here before going on upgrade itis to tackle their room
acoustics.

New speakers, new amps, after acoustics.


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post #29554 of 30072
Hello all I've been a long time lurker new joiner. I have a question for anyone with experience with monitor 11 ver 6's. It seems the bass drivers don't move much at all when playing music or movies. I just got the newer center 1 and it seems to put out as much bass as the towers. I'm using denon x2000 with audysee. Any help with this?
post #29555 of 30072

Hey guys, just a quick question, a local guy is selling a pair of Monitor 11 V7's for $600, he says they are 6 months old and pics show them to be in excellent condition, looking around, new price seem to go from $1700 to $1900, just wondering is there something Im missing bc to me, seems like a really low price, or am I just getting a great deal..

 

I currently have a complete Energy set up, with RC70's as my front mains, would these Monitor 11's be a step up?

also, would my Pioneer Elite S61 work well with these..?

post #29556 of 30072
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Originally Posted by HfxHiFi View Post

Hey guys, just a quick question, a local guy is selling a pair of Monitor 11 V7's for $600, he says they are 6 months old and pics show them to be in excellent condition, looking around, new price seem to go from $1700 to $1900, just wondering is there something Im missing bc to me, seems like a really low price, or am I just getting a great deal..

I currently have a complete Energy set up, with RC70's as my front mains, would these Monitor 11's be a step up?
also, would my Pioneer Elite S61 work well with these..?

If it's too good to be true, it probably is. Is local pickup offered, or is this your plan and you haven't asked yet? Most of the scammers won't agree to local pickup, and want cash or something as good as cash. With paypal and credit cards they will get charged back.
post #29557 of 30072
New Monitor 11 v.7s have an MSRP of $799 each. Of course, a decent dealer will sell them at a lower price than that (but not two for less than one). I agree with Tank_PD. It sounds too good to be true. If someone is actually selling them for that price and offers local pickup, that would be a dynamite deal. But just beware! If it is a local pickup, don't do the deal alone. Bring someone with you and do it in a public area. There have been people who show up to a meeting place intending to buy something and they get robbed.
post #29558 of 30072

I agree it seems like a shady deal, they are about 2 hrs away from me, im gonna call in the AM, and see how that unfolds, it is a local phone number, guess ill know more tomorrow, but if it is legit, ill drive there pretty quick, usually when these adds are scams, there isnt a phone number, just contact by email, so that could be a good sign....ill let you guys know how it turns out

thanks for the replys..

post #29559 of 30072
Hi, I plan to get the Milleniaone 5.1 system and a new receiver. I was wondering what model receivers current owners of the milleniaones are using and their opinions. I am going to be using the setup for 70%movies/30% music. I was interested in the Denon x4000, Marantz 7008 or Pioneer sc-79. Thoughts and suggestions for the receivers welcomed.

Thanks
post #29560 of 30072
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Originally Posted by Mike Malachy View Post

Hi, I plan to get the Milleniaone 5.1 system and a new receiver. I was wondering what model receivers current owners of the milleniaones are using and their opinions. I am going to be using the setup for 70%movies/30% music. I was interested in the Denon x4000, Marantz 7008 or Pioneer sc-79. Thoughts and suggestions for the receivers welcomed.

Thanks

Anthem MRX receiver series is quite popular as well. Anthem is the sister electronics company to Paradigm.
post #29561 of 30072
Thanks Tank,
Took a look and the feature set of the Anthems are really lacking compared to other brands. They get awesome reviews though for sound quality. If only the 710 had networking features, I might bite. I would like to be able to take music off my NAS or try streaming via DLNA.
What are other Receivers are MilleniaOne users using?

I'm new to all this and have been doing a lot of reading. Some writers say you have to pair receivers properly to your speakers or you'll never get any good quality. Others say that any of these choices will do. Not very dealer carries the M1s and the different receivers, so I'd like to perhaps narrow it down to two top models and find a dealer where I can audition the speaker and avr combinations side by side.
Thanks.
post #29562 of 30072

Hi

I have a question. I am trying to install the ADP 590 (surround) on the wall. The instruction states that the safety wire should be attached both to the speaker and the wall before we hang the speaker onto the wall. There is a small hole in the speaker back. Is that where the safety wire needs to be attached with a screw? Plus did you receive screws with the speakers which will go in the back of the speaker and the wall? All I received was the bracket and the safety wire with the speakers.

Any help will be appreciated.

Thanks

Sid

post #29563 of 30072
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Originally Posted by Siddhu View Post

Hi
I have a question. I am trying to install the ADP 590 (surround) on the wall. The instruction states that the safety wire should be attached both to the speaker and the wall before we hang the speaker onto the wall. There is a small hole in the speaker back. Is that where the safety wire needs to be attached with a screw? Plus did you receive screws with the speakers which will go in the back of the speaker and the wall? All I received was the bracket and the safety wire with the speakers.
Any help will be appreciated.
Thanks
Sid

IMO, at one time Paradigm did not have such "safety device", and a lawsuit arose, they lost, and now they need to put those wires in as due care PL (Product Liability) issue.

They really are a PIA.

How are you routing the speaker wire?
Are you coming from in-wall, or just up the wall?
My wires were routed in-wall, and I put blue boxes to hold a coil of wire for workability as I hung each ADP surround, mine are the ADP 390 but exact same install.
IMG_5793.JPG

I did try to use their "safety device", but gave up.
I end up using a ladder with the flip up paint shelf on it, the wire is long enough that I can make the connections and if my hands get tired I can put the ADP on the shelf to rest, then finish the install and hand on the wall.
The excess wire gets coiled back into the blue box.
It's sealed for no sound leakage into the wall.
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post #29564 of 30072
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Originally Posted by mtbdudex View Post


IMO, at one time Paradigm did not have such "safety device", and a lawsuit arose, they lost, and now they need to put those wires in as due care PL (Product Liability) issue.

They really are a PIA.

How are you routing the speaker wire?
Are you coming from in-wall, or just up the wall?
My wires were routed in-wall, and I put blue boxes to hold a coil of wire for workability as I hung each ADP surround, mine are the ADP 390 but exact same install.
IMG_5793.JPG

I did try to use their "safety device", but gave up.
I end up using a ladder with the flip up paint shelf on it, the wire is long enough that I can make the connections and if my hands get tired I can put the ADP on the shelf to rest, then finish the install and hand on the wall.
The excess wire gets coiled back into the blue box.
It's sealed for no sound leakage into the wall.
.


Hi,

In my case the wires are coming from "in-wall". So it seems that it will also be important to make sure that the speaker is flush with the wall?

So I basically have to find screws on my own to attach the wire to the speaker and the wall? None came with the speaker when you bought it?

Sid

post #29565 of 30072
Sid, if you are near a 2x4 stud that is best to secure the strap to. Your basic coarse thread drywall screw 2 1/2 inch long would work fine, I've used them for countless projects.

if not then you need to use appropriate drywall anchors.
I'd be leary of even 75lb anchors, as that rating I'm sure is a static pull not a dynamic drop rating like if you dropped those.

Do you have extra wire in the wall cavaity and then as you mount it push back into the wall?
I also did use the bumpers they give so no vibrations.

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post #29566 of 30072
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Originally Posted by Mike Malachy View Post

Thanks Tank,
Took a look and the feature set of the Anthems are really lacking compared to other brands. They get awesome reviews though for sound quality. If only the 710 had networking features, I might bite. I would like to be able to take music off my NAS or try streaming via DLNA.
What are other Receivers are MilleniaOne users using?

I'm new to all this and have been doing a lot of reading. Some writers say you have to pair receivers properly to your speakers or you'll never get any good quality. Others say that any of these choices will do. Not very dealer carries the M1s and the different receivers, so I'd like to perhaps narrow it down to two top models and find a dealer where I can audition the speaker and avr combinations side by side.
Thanks.

Mike,

Depending on where you live you may have a hard time auditioning both the receiver and speakers at one location. I live in Omaha and I have not been able to audition the receiver I want with the speakers I am getting.

 

I am purchasing Studio 100’s and the 690 for my center. I am about 80/20 movies/music.

 

I have changed my mind countless times on receivers. I originally wanted the Denon X4000 after a lot of research, but was hesitant not being able to use is anywhere around here. Then I thought about going with separates instead. Then back to the X4000 to use as my preamp and get a XPA-5. Then to Yamaha, Anthem, and it keeps going. At the end of the day I keep coming back to the X4000 which has XT32. It has great reviews and is very feature rich for the price (Talk to jdsmoothie on the forum for a price for sure on the X4000!). I will probably end up with the X4000 myself, unless I wait too long and see what comes out this fall.

post #29567 of 30072
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Originally Posted by pbrandt View Post
 

Mike,

Depending on where you live you may have a hard time auditioning both the receiver and speakers at one location. I live in Omaha and I have not been able to audition the receiver I want with the speakers I am getting.

 

I am purchasing Studio 100’s and the 690 for my center. I am about 80/20 movies/music.

 

I have changed my mind countless times on receivers. I originally wanted the Denon X4000 after a lot of research, but was hesitant not being able to use is anywhere around here. Then I thought about going with separates instead. Then back to the X4000 to use as my preamp and get a XPA-5. Then to Yamaha, Anthem, and it keeps going. At the end of the day I keep coming back to the X4000 which has XT32. It has great reviews and is very feature rich for the price (Talk to jdsmoothie on the forum for a price for sure on the X4000!). I will probably end up with the X4000 myself, unless I wait too long and see what comes out this fall.


Same boat. Got the same Paradigm set up and after a lot of mental jostling with different Marantz models I went with the X4000. Its got everything I wanted.

post #29568 of 30072

Got another question regarding hanging Paradigm 590 surround speakers on the side wall. So the spot n the side where the speakers needs to go there is a 2X4 plank attached (the previous owner had them). Should I :

A) Remove the plank and then attach the surround speakers flush with the wall OR

B) Attach the bracket to the plank on which the speaker goes.

 

My concern with the second option is that the gap between the speaker and the wall may create issues with sound? Is that true? Which option should I go for?

Any help will be appreciated.

Thanks

Sid

post #29569 of 30072
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Originally Posted by Siddhu View Post

Got another question regarding hanging Paradigm 590 surround speakers on the side wall. So the spot n the side where the speakers needs to go there is a 2X4 plank attached (the previous owner had them). Should I :
A) Remove the plank and then attach the surround speakers flush with the wall OR
B) Attach the bracket to the plank on which the speaker goes.

My concern with the second option is that the gap between the speaker and the wall may create issues with sound? Is that true? Which option should I go for?
Any help will be appreciated.
Thanks
Sid

The wall mount bracket is designed to be screwed onto the wall and then hang the speaker on it.
If anything you would have less issues with the speaker not touching the wall.
post #29570 of 30072
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Originally Posted by Siddhu View Post

Got another question regarding hanging Paradigm 590 surround speakers on the side wall. So the spot n the side where the speakers needs to go there is a 2X4 plank attached (the previous owner had them). Should I :
A) Remove the plank and then attach the surround speakers flush with the wall OR
B) Attach the bracket to the plank on which the speaker goes.

My concern with the second option is that the gap between the speaker and the wall may create issues with sound? Is that true? Which option should I go for?
Any help will be appreciated.
Thanks
Sid

Those speakers are designed to be flush mounted, the baffle step compensation that the passive crossover has by design would be affected if you mount them on that 2 x 4, remove it and flush mount them.

Kamikaze13 - hey we are close speaker wise, except I've got Monitor 9's not 11's, plus added Atom Monitors for wides/height, your signature shows
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Paradigm Monitor 11 Mains
Paradigm Monitor CC-390 Center
Paradigm Monitor ADP-390 Surrounds x 4
post #29571 of 30072
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Originally Posted by mtbdudex View Post

Kamikaze13 - hey we are close speaker wise, except I've got Monitor 9's not 11's, plus added Atom Monitors for wides/height, your signature shows

Do you feel the heights add a lot? Do they take away from the mains and center?

I'm wired for heights but so far haven't added them.
post #29572 of 30072
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Originally Posted by Kamikaze13 View Post

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Originally Posted by mtbdudex View Post

Kamikaze13 - hey we are close speaker wise, except I've got Monitor 9's not 11's, plus added Atom Monitors for wides/height, your signature shows

Do you feel the heights add a lot? Do they take away from the mains and center?

I'm wired for heights but so far haven't added them.

Great Q, actually the endless Q and debate, for discrete sound people can grasp heights/wides, but for matrixed/processed sound it's a harder sell.
Hence - some are watching from sideline and waiting for Dolby Atmos/DTS Auro discrete.

For me, in my room, the heights add 3D sense to the soundstage, and the wides give a more enveloping soundstage.
post #29573 of 30072
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Originally Posted by mtbdudex View Post

Great Q, actually the endless Q and debate, for discrete sound people can grasp heights/wides, but for matrixed/processed sound it's a harder sell.
Hence - some are watching from sideline and waiting for Dolby Atmos/DTS Auro discrete.

For me, in my room, the heights add 3D sense to the soundstage, and the wides give a more enveloping soundstage.

I've read that presence speakers/heights give you more prominent dialogue but I don't need that with this center channel so I decided not to add them.
I was interested to know of any other benefits, thanks.
post #29574 of 30072
It's really the processing alogrithms you use also, Audyssey DSX vs Dolby PLIIz vs DTS NeoX, they all process the heights/wides differently.

Maybe "borrow" a pair of atom monitors from your local dealer to try them out??
post #29575 of 30072
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Originally Posted by Siddhu View Post


Same boat. Got the same Paradigm set up and after a lot of mental jostling with different Marantz models I went with the X4000. Its got everything I wanted.

Thanks Siddhu and pbrandt for your feedback.
Looks like it I will be leaning toward the x4000.
post #29576 of 30072
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Originally Posted by Mike Malachy View Post


Thanks Siddhu and pbrandt for your feedback.
Looks like it I will be leaning toward the x4000.


I received mine today and it looks awesome. I have not yet hooked it up as I am waiting for my towers and center to arrive.

Talking to JD also helped a lot. Plus he uses X4000 himself. Best bang for the buck. Plus buying through JD is a seamless affair.

Sid

post #29577 of 30072
Another vote for the X4000 here. The Audyssey MultEQ XT32 software does wonders for the sound quality. Really, the only feature it doesn't have is built-in Wi-Fi, so you need to connect it to a wireless bridge, or directly to your LAN. Beyond that, it does everything you could ask of a receiver, and at a very reasonable price.
post #29578 of 30072
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Originally Posted by tboe77 View Post

Another vote for the X4000 here. The Audyssey MultEQ XT32 software does wonders for the sound quality. Really, the only feature it doesn't have is built-in Wi-Fi, so you need to connect it to a wireless bridge, or directly to your LAN. Beyond that, it does everything you could ask of a receiver, and at a very reasonable price.

+1
post #29579 of 30072
Here we go again. The wife said to ask your thoughts again since we cant do all at once like we planned...

Looking to see what others would do in my situation...
My boat is almost sold and I have to decide between purchasing Paradigm Studio 100's with a cc690 center and denon x4000 and keep watching a crappy projector on my 106 inch scope screen. Or purchase denon x4000 and a new projector and finish my HTPC and keep my Anthony Gallo micro speakers and nht sub.

Anyone been in a similar situation where you cant have it all at once? I guess I was thinking that projectors change a lot faster than speakers so purchasing speakers my be a safer bet at future proofing.

What would you do?
post #29580 of 30072
Sounds like you know the right thing, pun intended.

I'm still using my 7 year old sony VW60, waiting till 2015/2016 when 4k and 10bit video are below $5-7k price point. Laser/LED light engine much perfected over bulb tech.

Go with the audio, after all you are asking in the speaker forum
not the PJ forum.....


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