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The salesman did make one good point. That I could get the extended warranty and get the full 15% off the retail price and then I'd have up to one year to cancel and received all my money back on the warranty and still keep my - $350 off the MSRP

Having my 2nd 50A10 delivered this week to replace the first one. Any of you with either the 42 or 50 A10 notice the bottom portion of the frame below the speakers not being straight across?? Its wavy on my current set, I thought it was the glass stand I have it on but then I took a closer look and sure enough its not straight. I don't have any stores that have them on the shelves yet, I ordered from a BM warehouse so I have no way to know if all of them are like this. Will find out soon when they drop off another.

Anyone have OTA HDTV working with their A10?
If so, did you have to do anything special (menu-wise)?
Or, did you just connect the antenna and punch in the broadcast frequency and/or run the auto program?

Also, as far as the wavy thing is concerned, yes it appears mine has a bit of a wave - thanks for point it out. But, it's pretty symmetrical and so I'm not too worked up about it.


Mitch

Has anyone confirmed whether this is a defect or maybe part of the "style"? Everybody.....START FEELING!!!

Good LORD I have spent a lot of time with this TV.

HDTV over air or through my Time Warner cable box via component was easy to calibrate...anyone can do it.

However, dealing with my Panasonic S77 upconverting to 720p via HDMI was a ROYAL pain the butt.

I have spent countless hours and lots of different DVDs getting this right, and after comparing Fifth Element on my laptop to my A10, I think I have HDMI settings right (don't you love having to calibrate for multiple inputs??)

Iris 2
Picture 67
Brightness 45
Color 35
Hue R17
Color Temp Neutral
Sharpness Min (remember, I'm upconverting)

Under Advanced:
Black Corrector High
Advanced Iris Low
Gamma Low
Clear White Off
Live Color Off

Lemme know if someone has a similar setup and what your settings are.

I was mainly trying to get correct skin tone on Bruch Willis, the problem being a slight green tint to his hair line and 'stubble'. This has minimized it. Furthermore, Lord of the Rings was looking pretty crappy after a second run through, and now it's about right.

Ok... here I go, the first question is an easy one, I appologize for not searching for it. The others I've searched for but they are a little vague. Thank you in advanced for taking the time to reply to my questions.

I'm interested in buying the 42" A10... my couch will be 8 feet away from the TV, will this be a good viewing distance?

Sony and SonyStyle does not list all of the specs on this wonderful tv (A10)... I read a few people mention that the response time is 12 ms... However, I have not seen this confirmed anywhere... If anyone see this in the manual or on some part of Sony's website I haven't seen, could someone link me to it?

Also, I'm not a Nascar fan, but how does it look on the A10? Do you still see trails like other LCDs? Could someone try a racing video game to see how it looks.

Last but not least, a few posts back someone mentioned a "warp" defect in the TV, not on the screen but on the plastic or bezel (I'm not sure). Could someone please take a picture zoomed in on this defect? And another picture at more of a distance? Also, if this "defect" is on the right side of the tv (for example), is it on also on the same exact spot on the left side? (so that way its at least symetrical)... If its Symetricalm then it won't bother me as much because I could think its just part of the style... Maybe I just have mild obsessive compulsive disorder

Also, in your honest opinion how do the black levels compare with other LCDs you have seen. 1 being worst, 10 being the best you have seen.

Thanks again,
- Bryan

He's partially correct. Sears discounts are not always stackable, so don't expect to get 25% off. Get real.

As to when the 30 days start, 2 year ago when I purchased my WE610 from Sears, many others on this forum were doing this from Sears also. There were multiple push backs of the delivery date. At that time, Sears policy was that the warranty, began on delivery. I'm making the presumption that the 30 day satisfaction guarantee would also being at time of delivery. I know for a fact that many of us did not even get our TVs for 40 days, so that wouldn't have left us any time on a 30 day satisfaction guarantee if it had begun at time of sale. If I were you, I'd get them to double check this. You don't know when they'll actually deliver the set.

Got my 50A10 from Sears a couple of days ago. PQ great and now enhancing my settings. I wanted to pass along to others that I find the matched TV stand offered by Sony to be well made and worth the price. Make sure that you have Sears price match SonyStyle's price. Sears charges $50 dollars more. How does a retailer charge more than Sonystyle's MSRP? Anyway, stand has very high build quality, tight, and very good looking.

Only possible concerns that some may have that I can see is: 1) Height is only 20 inches, and could be viewed as a bit low for some. It is NOT what shows up on Sonystyle summary specs of "28in". Open user manual to see real dimensions. 2) Due to corner style stand, depth on sides decreases dramatically and may limit the number and size of components.

However, with that said, I am very impressed and would recommend this stand.

Leadercrat

so, sears will pricematch sony's website? i thought they would only pricematch local competitors. anyway, quick question about the stand....are the shelves glass or made from a sturdy plastic? just wondering, b/c i have a 15 month old son who could end up hitting his head on something that is so open and exposed (i.e. no doors on the front of the stand). i appreciate your help.

leadercrat:

If I'm reading this correctly if we use the official Sony A10 stand, the stand is only 20" tall.

If so, how far off the ground is the bottom edge of the screen? and how far off the ground is the middle point of the screen?

Thanks for the help

In regards to the stands the dimensions states --
42 7/8" x 28" x 19 7/8" (1086 x 709 x 502 mm)

so is that correct? 42 inch wide -- for a 50-inch tv?
28 inch is the width and the 19 7/8 is the height

It is funny Sony has this at a great price with shipping included -- I am sure that all B&M stores would match it since it is Sony's own site and not just considered an online vendor...they can't really say that you can't trust the manufacturer........

Just a heads up: CC has now taken all the old 655's off their website. I'd say they'll put the A10's up there at anytime.

I got the reward zone mailing yesterday, but I don't have it with me. I remember that the TV related double points deal only applied to tube TVs. However, there was another deal where you get double points for any item over $100, but up to $1000. So I don't know if you would just get $1000 of the $2000+ at double points, or if a $2000+ wouldn't be eligible for that offer.

Depending on where you are, SonyStyle IS a local competitor. They have a store here in Dallas.

If you live in NYC, JandR has the 50A10 for $300 under the MSRP but is currently out of stock. You can have Sears price match JandR and get 10% off the difference. You can also wait till 8/14 to get an extra 10% for the Friends and Family discount.

I have a feeling that the horizontal bowing problem under the speakers may be a problem with all the A10 sets. Haven't seen any with out the problem yet. It is not that bad on mine and not a big deal because it has nothing to do with the picture. Just a cosmetic problem. But I will look the other way on it because I love the picture quality coming from this baby.

Leadercrat,

What is the width of the stand at the rear?

Can you remove/not install the "hanging" shelf? I like the size of the stand but it looks like from the pictures that unless you are using a Bose-type speaker, not much is going to fit in that space. Also, I am very interested to hear if you can fit components side-by-side with regards to the decreasing width of the sides.

I believe the "bowing" people are seeing on the A10 is an optical illusion. I noticed it on my 42 when I first got it and thought, "damn, the bottom edge of the screen is concave." But on closer examination, I realized the bottom of the speaker-scoop is curved outwards.... and for some trick of the eye that curve makes the bottom edge of the screen appear bowed in. Does that make sense? It's not the screen, it's the speaker-scoop. I don't know why the eye wants to see the scoop as being strait, thus causing the illusion of a warped screen. Tell you the truth... I don't even notice it anymore. It has ZERO effect on picture performance.

I thought it might be an optical illusion as well at first, but up close it appears to be an actual "flaw." And, it appears to be a "design for manufacturability" type of mistake in that the engineering of how the scoop attaches to the TV leads to an imperfect fit. But, really, folks, it is very minor (imo) and all this talk about is making it a mountain out of a mole hill.


Mitch

Purchased the 42A10 from abt last friday.
Went to a local tweeter last night and
they had the 50A10 next to a bran new Mitsubishi DLP RP.
The Mitsubishi had incredible brightness and color, but had this
weird hazy effect on bright scenes.
I guess maybe it was SDE but is was visible from 30' away!
Maybe they had it turned up to torch mode, but I could not have watched it another
5 minutes.

Somebody had turned the brightness on the Sony way down and they could not find the remote. So I really couldn't compare the two.

The design of the Mitsu was really nice but the Sony was smaller.
Can't wait to see the SXRDs in amonth.

In regards to the stand can anyone of you that bought it post a picture??

I am confused about the specs -- in regards to the 50A10

TV Spec -- 46 5/8"×32 5/8"×16 1/8" (1184×827×408mm)
Stand Spec -- 42 7/8" x 28" x 19 7/8" (1086 x 709 x 502 mm)

The way this reads the tv sticks out on the sides and on the back.......how does this look? If not correct is the stand wider / is the tv smaller?

Is this just weird to me? SonyStyle just confirmed the dimensions and all they say is that the stand is designed to hold this tv and will have no problem with the weight --- (of course not what I asked about but thanks for the reply).

that was what I was trying to say with the bowing problem, dont worry about it, very minor flaw, nothing to do with the picture at all. PQ is AMAZING on my 50A10

Yes you can choose not to install the shelf, and if you have the 42" inch, you'll be hard pressed to fit components side by side...width wise they will most likely fit, but because the stand is more of a trapezoid, depth is an issue and the outer corners of each component will probably be haning over the side. I have my receiver and my cable box next to each other and it's a tight fit...and the cable box is one of those small ones.

The stand is actually a few inches deeper than the TV. And looking at it from the front, it doesn't look like it hangs over at all, as the endes of the TV are fairly flush vertically with the two front 'legs'.

I'm not sure what all this 'bowing' talk is about, but it may be because the TV panel is flat, yet the lower 'lip' of the speakers is curved outward, giving the illusion of a downward curve if looking at it from the front.

it just looks like the bottom part of the speaker area is a little wobbly, but who cares. nothing to do with pq

The Sony Style web site lists under specifications for the SURG11M stand as 28" in height. However, if you download the PDF file for the stand it clearly says it is 20 and 3/8" in height. Does anyone have one of these stands set up for the E50A10 yet to confirm the actual height?

Thanks

RJ

Well, that's part of what brought me here, anyway. I was thinking of the 4667, but also checked out the Maxent plasma that's on sale at Costco. Maybe I'm 'seeing things', but when watching the football clips on the HD loop in both Costco and BB/CC (don't remember which) both the dlp's and the plasmas (several brands in both cases) seemed very difficult to follow - things seemed to jump from frame to frame almost like stop-motion. Granted, I was way too close in most cases due to aisle width, but I didn't notice this on the Sony LCD's.
Has anyone else noticed anything like this? Since sports (primarily hockey) is going to be a large part of my viewing, performance under 'high motion' conditions is critical. I wouldn't normally expect LCD to be at the same level for this type of programming, but IMHO the Sony (older 655 series - haven't seen an A10 yet) looked best on these types of clips in all places I've seen it. Maybe I'm nuts, though

I'll be getting mine today from Sonystyle. There are two different dimensions on Sony's site. One is the specs you listed and the other is in the user manuel which are: 46 3/4"x20 3/8x 19 3/8. Those seem are a little more believable.