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post #151 of 10847
lander215, how was the 50a10 listed in the CC system. I am in NYC, where is the warehouse that you are talking about located in.

What should I say to the salesperson. I am supposed to have a switch done this saturday on my HL-R4667 for another one because of circuitry problems, but would rather go with the sony instead. How do I do this because when I talked to a salesperson last week that had a hard time finding it in their system. When they did find it, the price was wrong. How was the model number listed. I would like to order it tonight so I can possible get it on saturday instead of the new HL-R4667 coming on saturday.
post #152 of 10847
sony now says add 2 cart,on there web site.
2 me that means we will be seeing the 50a10 - 42a10 every where mid aug.
perfect for football season. i will have my tv for opening night.
pats vs. raiders ! GO Pats!!!
sept.8 !!!
post #153 of 10847
I am in the same boat- please post if you find out.
post #154 of 10847
I just ordered 50" from my mom and pop appliance dealer. Will know availability later today but won't take delivery till no tax Saturday 8/13.

Sox, Pats, Bruins, NASCAR, NCAA will be looking good.

I have Direct w/Sony HD-100 and OTA antenna for Boston/Providence locals.
post #155 of 10847
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Originally Posted by kmil View Post

Not to worry, see my post from yesterday. Sears had "old" 42 inch WE655 next to new A10 Sony 50inch set. Noticeable improvement clearer and sharper without question. No pixels stood out. This set is a no brainer. Sony and Sears ought to have me on commission for enthusiastic endorsements.
One complaint.............SOUND......the Sony engineers appear to have been asleep at the switch when they made the sound system. IMHO, the WE655 was better; "better" meaning a more full and solid sound such as found on my Samsung HLN437W (which is for sale, contact me if interested). I'm getting the new Sony KDF-E50A10 as soon as I sell my set, which is in excellent condition.

I still would like comments on how well the black levels and contrast are on the new models, vs the GWIV. That is my main complaint on my GWIV, dark scenes in movies are murky and lack contrast. The sharpness is fine as is.
post #156 of 10847
right now my viewing distance is 7.5 feet to tv. Would the 50 in be pushing it very appropriate viewing distance or should I just go with the 42. I just dont want for it to seem that the 42 is too small, but also I dont want to feel that the 50 is not for my size viewind distance. Any advice will be helpful
post #157 of 10847
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Originally Posted by scherer326 View Post

lander215, how was the 50a10 listed in the CC system. I am in NYC, where is the warehouse that you are talking about located in.

What should I say to the salesperson. I am supposed to have a switch done this saturday on my HL-R4667 for another one because of circuitry problems, but would rather go with the sony instead. How do I do this because when I talked to a salesperson last week that had a hard time finding it in their system. When they did find it, the price was wrong. How was the model number listed. I would like to order it tonight so I can possible get it on saturday instead of the new HL-R4667 coming on saturday.

I'm not exactly sure what he did, but he showed me where they had coded the TV such that a regular salesman looking it up wouldn't find it...sorry, I know that's not much help. But we used the appropriate model numbers, SON KDFE50A10 and SON KDFE42A10.

I"m not sure where the warehouse was, but it's close enough to SC that their Friday truck will have it here on Saturday. I believe the warehouse number he put in was 755...or 725....but he spoke of it like it was their central warehouse...not sure if it's the central warehouse for the SE or where exactly.

You're best bet is to get the manager involved as you'll have to in the end. The salesman actually went to the main store manager to see if he would approve of the unit being ordered because the system required a managers override to get it.

At 7.5' I think the 50" will be your choice. I'm at 7' and my wife is at 8' and we can't wait to get the 50" model in. Also, CC didn't have any stock on the 42" yet, but it's probably just a matter of days until they do. The date on the 50" was 7/22 while the date on the 42" was 7/28 in the CC computer.

I was lucky, the salesman I had was really cool about the whole thing.
post #158 of 10847
thanks Lander215, I think I may go talk to them after work today. I am supposed to be having a replacement switch done on saturday for my samsung tv, but would rather go with the Sony. I had a sony in the past and the picture was awesome. You wont be disappointed.

Did he say when the 50 in would be in stock? How much should the two be listed for in CC?
post #159 of 10847
The 50" were in stock at the warehouse and available to order with a managers approval. The 42" were not yet in stock at the warehouse. No ETA on when they'd be in the stores.

MSRP on them is $1999 for the 42" and $2499 for the 50", but they were in the computer wrong, so be sure to point out the proper price to them.
post #160 of 10847
you think CC will price-match J&R's 50a10 for $2299
post #161 of 10847
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Originally Posted by scherer326 View Post

right now my viewing distance is 7.5 feet to tv. Would the 50 in be pushing it very appropriate viewing distance or should I just go with the 42. I just dont want for it to seem that the 42 is too small, but also I dont want to feel that the 50 is not for my size viewind distance. Any advice will be helpful

In my opinion, a 50 inch model MAY be too large at 7.5 feet. I have the 42 inch and view it at 13 feet...at that distance the 50 would clearly be better. You are very borderline on your distance. I would suggest go to a store with a measuring tape, and watch the 50 inch for a decent period of time at 7.5 feet. Make sure sports and action scenes aren't hard to follow, and making you dizzy. If you think you like the 50 after testing it, go for it. But make sure you can exchange it for a 42 if you change your mind at home. A 50 inch will look MUCH larger in your small room than in a TV showroom.
post #162 of 10847
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Originally Posted by scherer326 View Post

you think CC will price-match J&R's 50a10 for $2299

Doubt it, they'll match any local competitor though, so I was glad when HH Gregg moved into our area....now we have four to price match amongst.
post #163 of 10847
For those who have seen this set, how do you think it compares to the Samsung HL-R4667 or 5067? It's between the two for me, I've seen the Samsung, now need to see the Sony. I've seen the rainbows in the dlp, but only with a THX disc, but never when watching regular tv/movies. I'm hoping the Sony can compare to the Samsung
post #164 of 10847
J&R is local, remember I am from NYC
post #165 of 10847
Well, after a long time researching and deciding between various DLP and LCD HDTVs, I finally took the plunge and ordered the 50A10 from Crutchfield.com. I had ordered the 42" model, but they said the ETA was August 12th and I needed the TV before then, so I went with the larger one. The set seems to have everything I wanted...720p, game mode, advanced iris, all that good stuff. I play a ton of 480i games (most of my games are PS2 or older), so a game mode was a requirement. Now I just have to wait for the freight company to call and schedule a delivery time.
post #166 of 10847
dude...what is this "game mode" ive heard you talk about. ALL i've seen in the manuel is a setting called "game picture" that allows you to move the picture left and right. didn't see anything about a game mode that adjust for the lag in 480i...
post #167 of 10847
Here is my review that I posted on another forum topic. I am not a tv expert by any means but here it is:

Ok, so I set up the tv last night (E50A10) and spent a few hours playing around with it. Here are my impressions:

Standard def tv- I previously had a JVC 32" CRT and so this is my first experience watching standard def tv on an hdtv, besides at friends' houses or at the stores. The picture isn't as good as it is with my old CRT, but that is expected. Could all be due to the huge increase in screen size. Some channels are worse than others, but that is the same on my CRT. My couch is 14' away from my tv (big room), and so watching standard def is fine. I am sure that standard def is as good or better than any other hdtv I have seen it on. I notice no real degredation when I switch from standard view to wide zoom, so that is good.

High def tv- AMAZING!! It blew me away. I have seen high def on many tvs at stores, and at friends' houses, but this is the best I have ever seen. When I watched hdtv on my friends Sony 34" widescreen hdtv I thought, what is the big deal? On this tv....incredible. The clarity is awesome! I was switching back and forth between Lost on hd and standard def and was sold. Huge difference. The colors and bright scenes seem brighter than I have seen on other tvs, but in a really good way. I had the picture set on standard most of the time, instead of vivid. A scene on Lost which showed the mountains and sky in Hawaii blew my wife and I away.

DVD- Again, the best I have seen. I have taken dvds to stores and tested them on many tvs. I have a progressive scan cheap Samsung dvd player. The picture looked great even from a couple feet away. No weird pixel issues or clamation details like I have seen on Samsung dlps. I watched the huge fight on LOTR:Two Towers to check out the dark levels. The iris settings are actually different than I have seen explained on this forum. There are levels from 1(min) to 5(max). I saw no on/off. 1 is the darkest, and 5 is the lightest. I think the default setting was 2, and I found 2-3 to be the best settings. Black levels were excellent on the battle scene. Blacks were SUPER black, but there was still great detail in dark scenes. I think the new iris does its job well.

Sound- I have a surround sound system, but I usually use my tv speakers for tv, especially since my children are asleep during a lot of my tv watching. Since the speakers are in that open gap in the bottom, the regular sound was a little muffled. I switched to dynamic sound I think (or whatever the option was) and it was a little better. When I switched to the surround option it sounded much better, and seemed to take away the muffled effect.

Overall- I think this is the best hdtv I have seen. Let me know if you have any questions and I will try to answer them .
post #168 of 10847
pictures .... show us some pictures
post #169 of 10847
No new news really, but it might save someone a trip. I went to Magnolia Hi-Fi in Bellevue today and they don't have either model in stock yet. Both are expected mid-August at the standard price of $1,999 and $2,499.
post #170 of 10847
Dlpwanter,

Nice write up, i've been waiting....and waiting to take the plunge, the 50 incher sounds promising. Any pictures you could post would be most welcome to the forum....Thanks


AW
post #171 of 10847
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Originally Posted by Hellraiser View Post

dude...what is this "game mode" ive heard you talk about. ALL i've seen in the manuel is a setting called "game picture" that allows you to move the picture left and right. didn't see anything about a game mode that adjust for the lag in 480i...

I've read about the A10 series having it in a number of threads. If it doesn't, I may have a problem with my new investment...
post #172 of 10847
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Originally Posted by scherer326 View Post

J&R is local, remember I am from NYC

Ah, well then, take in the J&R ad/info and see what they got to say then!
post #173 of 10847
I will post pics later tonight. I also found out how to access the other iris settings but haven't checked them out yet.
post #174 of 10847
Regarding the game mode on the A10 series, I've found proof of it in the online manual I have through Cruchfield. The link is...

http://akamaipix.crutchfield.com/Man...158KD50A10.PDF

On page 78, they have game mode listed as "optimize the lip synch when playing games". I'm glad to see that this mode exists as it was a main selling point to me for this tv.
post #175 of 10847
Some good news and bad news. . .

First, the good: Sears at the Meadows Mall in Las Vegas has the 50" model in stock and on display.

Now, the bad (and, man, does it hurt): They have the tv setup with only a standard def feed through a coax cable. It's on an endcap away from the other HDTVs, so they can't hook it up to a high def feed even if they wanted to.

But, wait, it gets better. The TV isn't next to any other TVs, so even if we hook up a DVD player, I can't do any direct comparisons.

Nonetheless, I want to go back tomorrow with an Xbox and a few DVDs to see how the picture looks.

The set itself is elegantly designed and fairly attractive. I did not test the sound, but I'll look into that tomorrow.

Is anyone else -- particularly a videophile -- in the Las Vegas area?
post #176 of 10847
Dlpwanter's review is much much appreciated, and it brings to light what I think is a pretty important issue regarding the Iris, begging the question: Is this Iris really dynamic/automatic?

Here's what I'm talking about: Sony in their manual describes the Iris as one that "automatically open(s) and close(s) according to the incoming signal level . . ." (p. 9 of the Manual, Sony Style site) yet later on it indicates that the iris is set (presumably by the user) to high/medium/low/off (p. 65, Manual), which is exactly what DLPwanter had to do - set the iris. Doesn't sound automatic to me if you have to manually set it.

The only theory I can come up with that reconciles all this is that maybe the iris setting somehow sets its *sensitivity*, as opposed to just setting a *static* arpeture opening size. Just a theory based on speculation, hyperbole, innuendo, and viscious rumors . . . Anybody know the definitive answer on this? After all the hoopla and high expectations about the iris, it would be pretty disappointing if it was just a sort of dumbed down version of the truly automatic one used in that Sony projector (VS51 or something like that).
post #177 of 10847
dlpwanter,

For SD content, you might want to try what I've found to work best. Are you using the component cables for both SD and HD to the same input? For my Pioneer CRT RPTV, I found that the component cables actually brought out the bad quality in SD - I guess they truly show how bad it is.

So what I've done is had to use 2 inputs on the TV. It's a pain switching, but my SD is better. I plan to do the same on my new 50A10. What I do is run the coax into the HD box from the cable company. Then I run the component cables out into the TV, to Input1 or whatever. Then I run either straight coax, or maybe an S-Video cable into the TV to another input. That input I use to watch SD.

Anyway, if you are ever board, you might wanna give it a try. Maybe it will make your SD just a little better. It does for me.

Aaron
post #178 of 10847
If anyone is looking to order from Sears, particularly in California, refer to the information I posted here:

http://www.avsforum.com/avs-vb/showt...&&#post5952368


It includes the Sears order number and info and explanation. Enjoy!
post #179 of 10847
Have my eye on the 50. Any suggession on a good stand besides the Sony. Maybe one that swivels??
post #180 of 10847
A swivelling 50"?!
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