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Hmmm, I have to think that one over!

And, thanks! I think it looks pretty good.

I am actually glad now that the TV is NOT bigger than 42", at least for my sitting distance of 11-13'. I say this due to the majority of content not being HD right now. With SD from cable/satellite and DVDs, my opinion is that this low-resolution content is not good to sit too close to.

About ready to purchase set. On some sources they list a headphone jack, but looking at the set I did not see any headphone jacks. Am I missing something? Would be a nice feature. If a jack is not provided, what can I do to use headphones with this unit. My wife can hear a pin drop, and I stay up later and have to keep the volume low. Any suggestions?

Back on stickers; sorry to others.

I called sony and they said I have to start with my dealer. I called my dealer and he said only way I can get a new on is if sony agrees and will issue him an RA to return. He said he will call sony and see what they say.

Does this sound normal??? If not successful should I go after sony or my dealer or both???

Anybody have any inside help or contacts at Sony?????

There is not a headphone jack.

It seems to me you could go to Radio Shack and get an adapter and short cable to allow you to plug your headphones into the audio out jack on the back. I *think* that line-out voltage would be the same as that on a headphone jack.

I currentlly have the Sony KDF-E50A10 and use the Samsung HD 931 DVD Player using components. The cable guy is coming today and in about a week or two I will use a DVI out cable with HDMI on the other end. I will use the Moto 6412 STB and it has, I believe, only one HDMI. I will have the STB connected to the TV with the Gefen Switcher using Input "2" and the STB in input "1", then, of course, running the output HDMI from the switcher into the back of the TV. Sorry for being a bit winded, but here's my question. Under the new setup where will I input the DVD player AUDIO output into the back of the TV. Currently using COMPONENT......I use the audio in hookup no. 4 which is listed in the Sony manual under no 7. Please see PAGE 17 in the Sony manual.

My concern is that if I use the AUDIO in the component hookup (which I'm currently using) I might not get an audio signal. I'm sure the "solution" for the problem is quite simple. Obviously since I'm using the DVI output on the DVD player I am "losing" the audio portion since the DVI cable cannot carry audio and must, of course, be plugged in separately. Any and all help is appreciated.


It just dawned on me: would the dvd audio cables be run to the newly installed STB................and NOT directly to the TV?

^You're not using an A/V receiver?

I'm not a A10 owner yet but any good receiver has a headphone jack and I know you have a good surround set with this TV.
You can hear all the explosions better with surround through your headphones hook to your receiver while your wife sleeps.

Right now the cable goes DIRECTLY into the TV. Sometime this afternoon Insight Cable is supposed to install the Motorola 6412 STB and when I get the Gefen HDMI switcher I will run both the DVD player and the STB thru the Gefen.
In answer to your question, I have not been and will NOT use an A/V receiver in conjunction with my setup.

I don't have any noticeable delay changing channels within a given input source (e.g., UHF/VHF, or Cable), but there is the relay delay (and click) when changing from UHF/VHF to Cable or vice versa.

I recently noticed a few features that I like.

1) Pressing and holding the channel up/down button results in the TV scrolling through the channels and only switching to a channel once I release the button.

2) Bipping through channels does not "reprogram" the jump feature. Instead, you need to rest at a channel (for a second or so) for the channel to be registered. So, if I'm watching channel 5 and then I bip through a bunch of channels and stop at, say, channel 22. The jump feature will bounce between channels 5 and 22 and not between channels 21 and 22 (which is what my old TV would have done).

3) The jump feature also works across tuner inputs. So, if I tune in channel 5 on cable and then switch to OTA (using the antenna button) and tune in, say, 7.1, and then switch back to cable (again using the antenna button), jump will now hop between cable channel 5 and OTA channel 7.1. Although you have the relay switch so it takes a little longer. And, it's probably wearing down the relay, but hey, I got a couple of years to worry about that.


Mitch

Jeeze . . . . talk about a tech/system that's not ready for prime time!

So let's do the math here: The card drops HD channels, it can't display full programming information, you need to revert to buying TV Guide to figure out what's on (well, retro is in fashion I suppose), it can't do on-line PPV, it can't do VOD, the cable companies aren't quite up to speed in servicing them . . . . . for me, that adds up to a no-go. (ok, I admit I stretched it with the buying TV Guide, given one can just tune in to the line-up channel . . . but I couldn't resist)

I do appreciate the remote-economy, but frankly I have literally 14 remotes and take some sort of geekish pleasure in using them. It does make it pretty near impossible for my girlfriend (or anyone) to watch my TV without me there to go through the multi-remote machinations to get things going . .. Big minus for most of the world out there, but I'm entitled to my quirks.

By the way, I'm on my second crap-out on the cable card HD channels in three days, so my experience is a bit worse than yours. That doesn't help with my attitude, I'm sure you understand. . . And I have really become used to program info/details appearing on-screen as I flip the channels (Tivo does that too). It was strangely unsettling to tune to a channel and not necessarily know what was on . . .. chalk that one up to another personal quirk.

I suppose it's just like picking your HDTV in the first place: pick your poison. If you love the one-remote experience and don't care about VOD and PPV that much and can get by with the Station guide channel to see what's on, AND if your cable company can actually make the thing work with some consistency and regularity, then cable card is for you. If you're like me, with all my quirks and oddities, that damned little card just might drive you crazy.

T-riot, I don't know if I would go so far as to not believe a word they say about cable cards these days (I suspect the "they" is me, given my recent prolific blatherings about those little cards).

I think my rants/complaints about the things boil down to a basic agreement with what you write - that in time the kinks will be worked out of the cable card technology and the cable companies will learn to adequately support them.

My beef at this point is that they really aren't as far along with this tech as I would think they should be (a friend of mine has had a card for 1.5 years or so, same issues I found out). Consequently, any one seriously considering going with just a cable card may be in for a bit of a rude awakening. That's my story and I'm sticking to it . . . . .

Odd . . .thought I saw a 1/8" headphone jack somewhere on my 50A10, but I'm not at home, can't confirm it, and the 42A10 manual at SonyStyle makes no mention of one.

I suggest two things, depending on how you listen to your TV typically:

If you aren't using external speakers for regular viewing (and using just the internal speakers), you probably aren't using the right/left RCA audio out on the back of the set. Radio Shack is sure to have a right/left RCA-to-headphone-jack converter thingie for cheap.

If you are using external speakers, with a receiver, you can use the receiver's headphone jack, if it has one. If not, or if you're connecting speakers directly out of the TV, then all I can think of is to split the signal coming out of the audio out in back of the TV. Head on back to Radio shack, buy a splitter for the RCA audio outs, along with the same RCA-to-headphone-jack thingie. All low-tech, and it's fraught with possible interference, but that's all I got.

It's on the side:

You're right; using the audio in the component hookup will not provide sound when your TV is focused on input 6, the HDMI input.

But I think I got it figured out. Basically, you just use Input 6 for both because it has HDMI and an alternate RCA audio in. Hook up the DVD audio to the audio IN on input 6 on the TV, right next to where you'll hook up your HDMI out of the switch box. That's it.

When you're Gefen is switched to the 6412, the pure HDMI connection carries video and audio into Input 6. Switch the Gefen to DVD and of course the 6412's HDMI video/audio signal is also switched off and DVD audio instead goes to input 6 via the RCA audio inputs on 6, HDMI still carries DVD video through the Gefen switch.

Potential Word of Caution: I wouldn't keep the DVD playing when you switch to/from the 6412 - seems you might harm the TV having the two audio signals coming into what is really one audio in on Input 6 (the RCA audio inputs are really alternate audio inputs, to use when your HDMI in has a DVI connection on the other end, as with your DVD, which wouldn't carry sound via HDMI). I could be wrong about his causing damage, but it is unquestionably true that you run the danger of sending HDMI audio and RCA audio into input 6 at the same time. I certainly wouldn't want to "experiment" with what effect this might have on my TV.

I really can't think of another way to do this, since your TV must be on Input 6 in order to receive HDMI signal, which is where your DVD video and STB video/audio signal will be coming into the TV (depending on which one the Gefen is weitched to). Kinda by definition, and as you speculated in your post, your TV will recoginize the audio only from the input it is focused on, to the exclusion of all other inputs. So, if you're on input 6, which is where you have to be to watch STB/DVD, only audio coming into input 6 would be available to be sent to your external speakers through the TV's RCA audio out, or to the internal speakers. Good thing for you the HDMI input 6 comes with those alternate audio in RCA jacks.


Nope; that won't work. If you connect your DVD audio cables to the 6412 STB, you will lose DVD audio when you switch the Gefen away from the STB signal and onto the DVD signal. Essentially, connecting your DVD audio to the STB audio results in you sending DVD audio to the very device you've just switched away from in order to enjoy watching your DVD. Hope that makes sense.

Please answer question in post: Where does the DVD audio OUT go:
directly into the STB..........OR........on the back of the TV, and if so, where does it go. Please refer to page 17 of Sony manual showing the REAR of TV.

i just love all these neat-o inputs on these hdtv's.

Take the HDMI input for instance........................................Oh, what was that you said?

"By the way, if you do have a 5.1 system, HDMI audio won't give you full surround anyway - for some not-smart reason, the powers-that-be-who-make-standards spec'd the HDMI with stereo only. State-of-the-art video and second-rate audio."

well ok , but what about that wonderful cable card slot............................come again?

"The card drops HD channels, it can't display full programming information, you need to revert to buying TV Guide to figure out what's on, it can't do on-line PPV, it can't do VOD, the cable companies aren't quite up to speed in servicing them."

ahhh, never mind

NO SOUP FOR YOU!!
You should pay double for trying to get out of paying!

No side headphone jack on my 42A10. Sony must have dropped it from production at the last minute.

my 50a10 has no headphone jack on the side. dont know where you are getting this headphone jack from

Update on this - just had a tech come out and take a look. He got me to leave the room (told me to call the store I got it from) and I heard this loud tapping. I went to see what it was and the spot was gone. He told me it was a piece of dust sandwiched between the layers of the lenticular screen, and didn't want me to witness the "repair". All he did was tap the screen until it dropped under the visibile portion. I'm glad it's over with.

Thanks for the replies to my earlier questions.

My next question is: Is it possible to disable the Cable and External Antenna inputs so that they are skipped when I press TV/VIDEO? I use my cable box only (through composite) so I don't want to switch to that input. I did set all of the external inputs to skip but I haven't been able to find out how to get this to skip.

Thanks.

See my subsequent post, which I hope indeed answered question in post: Input 6 (HDMI plus alternate RCA stereo in) does it all for you. Simple as that. Ah, well, I am assuming you're hooking up RCA left/right out of the DVD player; not digital audio out. If you're looking to send digital audio out of your DVD player, then you've stumped me - I don't see how you could do it in your scenario.

BTW, what is a ZVOX 315 powered speaker? Is it one speaker, or a pair? Do you prefer it over a 5.1 home theater system, or is it better mostly versus the TV speakers? Ah, wait . . . .found it on the net . . . . Very well received little device. Looks like the best alternative when full 5.1 isn't an option. Good move - enjoy.

Wow. Got the image from an major online retailer's site. Could have sworn I saw one on the display 42A10 I saw last weekend, but maybe not.

Singsing, thanks for the update. I am teetering between the XBR 960 CRT and the 42 A10. Your pic/post was stuck in my head as a negative in the A10 column. Glad to hear you got it sorted.

"He got me to leave the room.... "

LOL

Congratulations on having a successful repair. (no dead pixals huh?)

It's really not a matter of people's opinions, it's a matter of law involving standard of care. Nobody's perfect, and the law recognizes this. It's a simple fact that if you deliver stuff for a living, you're going to drop something now and then. Unless you're dropping stuff at a higher rate than others offering similar services, then the only compensation you owe is to replace the dropped item. You don't owe it to the recipient to work for free as a result. I'm sure the guy who dropped it feels bad, and had to deal with insurance paperwork and possibly a reaming from his boss.

Question: was any part of that $40 charge a premium for Saturday delivery, or was that the standard delivery charge and it just happened to be scheduled for Saturday?

If you paid a premium for expedited or Saturday delivery, then I would say it's fair to ask for a refund for the extra amount paid.

If it was going to cost you $40 regardless, then you didn't "pay for delivery on SATURDAY", you paid for DELIVERY, and it just so happened that it was originally scheduled for Saturday and ended up getting bumped to Monday. In this case, you're not entitled to any refund.

These things happen. People make mistakes. When they do, they have an obligation to correct those mistakes. In this case, that correction involved making the return trip with the second TV, at their expense, at no additional cost to you.

I am having trouble getting the Comcast local HD channels. I understand Comcast has these coming out of their coax because they are local. I can get some of them some of the time.

Initially I found 4 of them, but they changed. The first time I scanned all the channels, WLS-HD was at 92.1. When I went back it was then Discovery Kids. WGN-HD also changed. NBC-HD is the only one that I get all the time.

If I go from 115.1 to 115.2, I get ESPN-HD.
If I go from 115.5 to 115.2, I get FOX-HD.
This happens all the time.

Comcast cannot help, said I need their HD STB. Went round & round with them.
Called CC, they said probably a Comcast problem & not the set. I'm not surprised at their answers, but I was hoping one of them knew the actual frequencies to tune in.

Sooo, has anyone in the Chicago/Elmhurst area tried their A10 with cable right out of the wall? If you can tune in the local HD channels, please let me know what they are.

Thanks in advance,
Mike

Well, here's the thing. IIRC, Circuit City has the same day delivery promise (if purchased by a certain time) or the delivery is free. So if they were unable to deliver because the set was mishandled and another delivery had to be scheduled, the delivery charge should be refunded. Bascially, both situations are a failure (for different reasons) to deliver as promised, so shouldn't the fee be refunded? I think so.

Of course, I could be thinking of another place that has the guarantee. :P

If that's the case, then I'd agree with you. A guarantee is a guarantee. But I've never heard of that policy (doesn't mean that it doesn't exist) and the poster didn't mention it. It it was shipped from a warehouse rather than the local store, then such a policy wouldn't apply.

Anyway, I should mention I didn't post just to hijack the thread for a standard of care debate. I've been following for several weeks, and ordered a 50A10 from Vann's on Friday. Looks like it will arrive Monday along with a Samsung HD950, and new main and center speakers this week. Can't wait to get it hooked up... DVD via HDMI, PC via VGA, XBOX and PS2 via component, and DirecTiVo via S-video. This is my first RPTV... currently have a 32" CRT HDTV. Avia and DVE are on the way, I'll post settings once I've had a chance to play around with it. I'm particularly interested in the PC hookup and noticed that the few posts on 1:1 pixel mapping are getting lost... maybe some of us with PC connections can compare notes outside of the thread.