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post #31 of 123
the samsung has 12ms as compared to the 8ms posted earlier, just wanted to mention that.
post #32 of 123
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Originally Posted by whityfrd
the samsung has 12ms as compared to the 8ms posted earlier, just wanted to mention that.
The Samsung 8W's have 12ms; the 9D's have 8ms.
post #33 of 123
Crutchfield has the Sammy 409D listed with an expected date of 8/15/05.

They have a price listed as well. I hope the price comes down soon!

Can't wait to hear reviews!! :)

EDIT: Does anyone know the model number for the new 40" Sony? Can't seem to find it anywhere. I think the Sony looks better than the Sammy.
post #34 of 123
The Sony 40" model # is KDLV40XBR1.
post #35 of 123
why would anyone pay more for a samsung vs a sony?

will sony be making a 46" also any time soon?

and what does sharp have in mind for the new kids on the block? or is the sharp 45" still the benchmark?

cheers,

julie
post #36 of 123
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Originally Posted by alpina
why would anyone pay more for a samsung vs a sony?

julie
Uh - maybe b/c in the past few years Sony has been a follower rather than a leader in putting out digital TVs - Sharp dominates LCD; Panasonic and Pioneer dominate plasma and Samsung dominates DLP. Their days of dominating the TV market are over. Not saying you should pay more for a Samsung than a Sony but the cache that the Sony brand used to carry no longer exists.

Plus Sony's customer service is terrible whereas Samsung provides excellent service (at least in my experience).
post #37 of 123
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Originally Posted by EricScott
The Samsung 8W's have 12ms; the 9D's have 8ms.
I've seen the 8W series at CC, and thought they were fantastic. Esp. the LN-R408D. I'd choose that over any of the plasmas on the comparison display.

This is a subjective question, but do others expect this response time improvement to have a noticeable advantage? Maybe for video games and PC use?
post #38 of 123
I'm sure the response time improvement will have some impact but honestly on my 8W w/ 12ms response time I have never once seen motion blur. I've watched men's tennis matches (Andy Roddick), Nascar, baseball, basketball, etc. I don't play games so I can't comment on that but for regular TV viewing 12ms is probably fine.

The new sharps are going to have 12ms so how bad can it be?
post #39 of 123
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Originally Posted by EricScott
I'm sure the response time improvement will have some impact but honestly on my 8W w/ 12ms response time I have never once seen motion blur. I've watched men's tennis matches (Andy Roddick), Nascar, baseball, basketball, etc. I don't play games so I can't comment on that but for regular TV viewing 12ms is probably fine.

The new sharps are going to have 12ms so how bad can it be?
What I'm rooting for is that when the new 409D is introduced better deals can be found on the 408D.
post #40 of 123
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Originally Posted by jack_straw
What I'm rooting for is that when the new 409D is introduced better deals can be found on the 408D.

Has anyone posted any good reviews of the 408D yet? Can help me find them?

I'm seriously considering LCD right now. THey look really good at the stores, I wonder how they look in my dark living room though?

Thanks!
post #41 of 123
Srohde, I'd wait to see if the price drops even more when the 409 comes out next week.
post #42 of 123
Oh, believe me, I'll wait.

In fact according to some news in the panny thread, prices are dropping big time on the plasmas at the end of the month.

I'm going to wait this one out and see how the market reacts.
post #43 of 123
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Originally Posted by srohde
Oh, believe me, I'll wait.

In fact according to some news in the panny thread, prices are dropping big time on the plasmas at the end of the month.

I'm going to wait this one out and see how the market reacts.
Me too, but football season is right around the corner so I hope the market hurries up about it...
post #44 of 123
Abt electronics has the Samsung LNR 269D, 409D and 469D in stock on their web site.

I went to their to their brick and mortar store tonight, and they only had the 269D on display. I was really hoping to see the 469D.

The 269D picture looked very good, but it was running a different feed than the other LCDs and plasmas so I could not make a good comparison.

EDIT: Just talked to a rep at Abt... They should have the 409D and 469D on display in a few days. Hopefully I can check those models out sometime next week and will report back.
post #45 of 123
I have the 408D. One word...stunning.
Looks great in a light room or a dark room.
post #46 of 123
i will only be happy when those led backlight ones come out and i hope its atleast this year :o
post #47 of 123
They Samsung 409D is now in stock at Crutchfield.com. It arrives four days earlier than they'd expected.

Any takers? Or are you all waiting on the new Sony XBR the first week of September? ;)
post #48 of 123
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Originally Posted by MUGEN
i will only be happy when those led backlight ones come out and i hope its atleast this year :o
Is that the 9D series, or something else?
post #49 of 123
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Originally Posted by jack_straw
Is that the 9D series, or something else?
I believe its the 0D series that will have the LED backlight.

I think the benifit of the LED backlight is better uniformity of light across the display. Probably gets even brighter as well (not that LCD needs to get brighter). :cool:

Does anyone know if the '10bit' processing in the 9d is different from what the 8d has? If so, will it be a noticable difference?

thanks
post #50 of 123
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Originally Posted by tedler
I have the 408D. One word...stunning.
Looks great in a light room or a dark room.
Yeah, that's probably what I'll get. How is SD?

I've seen one of these at CC, and it looked great on their HD feed. When I checked it out at Fry's, I wasn't so impressed but their feed was obviously junk. I was a little concerned between commercials, etc, because when the display should have been all black there were noticeable horizontal lines across the screen. But, walking around to the other sets, I noticed all kinds of junk from that feed so I don't think it was an issue with the set.

Tweeter up the street is supposed to get the 409D in next week. I'm eager to see what that looks like as well. I have to say that I like the straight bottom edge of the frame better. I'm kicking myself for thinking this, but it just looks more cutting edge that way... more "plasma".

That said, the straight edge ain't worth $1k. I shopping this to death but I'm not that crazy.
post #51 of 123
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Originally Posted by jack_straw
Tweeter up the street is supposed to get the 409D in next week. I'm eager to see what that looks like as well. I have to say that I like the straight bottom edge of the frame better. I'm kicking myself for thinking this, but it just looks more cutting edge that way... more "plasma".

That said, the straight edge ain't worth $1k. I shopping this to death but I'm not that crazy.
I think the 408D and 409D are going to be roughly the same price. For instance at Crutchfield there is a $200 difference between the two. With the couple of extras the 409D has it's probably worth it.
post #52 of 123
Just called the warwick, ri tweeter store and they said they just got it in.
They don't have it on display, but will set it up for me.
I am a newbie and am interested in this model vs the sony KDL-V40XBR1, which as you know, is due out soon.
My question is what is the best way to check this LCD out?
What should I ask them to play, what connection, what should I be looking for specifically, etc. Kind of like the abc's of how to review a tv.

thanks

bob
post #53 of 123
Bobby, see if it has an adjustable backlight Also, see if the DNIE feature can be turned off.

Oh, and the remote....just let us know if it's as ugly as the other Samsung remotes. ;)
post #54 of 123
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Originally Posted by iBleedGarnet
Bobby, see if it has an adjustable backlight Also, see if the DNIE feature can be turned off.

Oh, and the remote....just let us know if it's as ugly as the other Samsung remotes. ;)
I can tell you for sure that the anser to both of those questions is no - the manual is available online and the only DNIe menu item is the "DNIe Demo" like the 8W series. Also there is no backlight control but the brightness control effectively allows you to adjust the backlight.
post #55 of 123
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Originally Posted by bobbyR
My question is what is the best way to check this LCD out?
What should I ask them to play, what connection, what should I be looking for specifically, etc. Kind of like the abc's of how to review a tv.
Think about how you're going to use it at home. For example, will you be watching mostly SD, HD, movies, PC, games? I would guess a mix of that, so make sure to watch each of those in evaluation. Take a couple of your favorite movies, material that you already know what it "should" look like.

Pay attention to your distance from the screen. At most mass merchant stores (i.e., Circuit City and Best Buy), the majority of the sets are in aisles where you can't get far enough away from the TVs to let them look good. The expensive ones aren't like that, if you notice. Note your home viewing distance and step it off once you get to Tweeter.

Another way to think about it -- if you actually bought it and took it home how would you spend the next 2-3 hours? Find a way to watch that stuff at Tweeter. Keep it wholesome of course

:D

Bottom line is that you are looking at a very expensive TV, and you shouldn't be shy about having them set up whatever you want to see on it.
post #56 of 123
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Originally Posted by tedler
I have the 408D. One word...stunning.
Looks great in a light room or a dark room.
So how does Analog video look on this TV. From what I can tell there is no line doubler on this TV. Some TV's include a line doubler which they state provides almost HD quality.
post #57 of 123
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Originally Posted by Loren Kruse.
So how does Analog video look on this TV. From what I can tell there is no line doubler on this TV. Some TV's include a line doubler which they state provides almost HD quality.
Analog video looks very good (very very watchable) on the Samsung. The TV definitely has a scaler to convert any input signal to 1366x768. The TV also has 3:2 pulldown for converting 24fps film material. Even though it doesn't explicitly look like a feature on the 8W, I called Samsung customer service and they confirmed that film mode is always active on 480i sources and only kicks in for films. My DVD player (Sony NS725P) is connected via component and it looks great (note that I leave progressive scan off on the Sony and let the Samsung do the deinterlacing).
post #58 of 123
EricScott, have you tried connecting analog via s-video? I'd be connecting Direct TV that way for at least a short while until I get HD service set up. Of course DVD will come in via component, but my SD Direct TV Tivo doesn't have component out.

Also, from what I've seen, the LN-R409D intro doesn't seem to have changed the LN-R408D pricing at any authorized dealers. I guess that it might be a little soon to really tell.
post #59 of 123
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Originally Posted by jack_straw
EricScott, have you tried connecting analog via s-video? I'd be connecting Direct TV that way for at least a short while until I get HD service set up. Of course DVD will come in via component, but my SD Direct TV Tivo doesn't have component out.
Haven't tried using S-Video. However my experience w/ S-Video on other cable boxes on my Samsung DLP is that it often looks quite good for SD material - hiding some of the imperfections I guess. For example SD on my 8000HD box looked much better over S-Video than component. Unfortunately that box wouldn't output over S unless you put it in a special SD mode so I stuck w/ component.
post #60 of 123
Rumor mill on the Panasonic thread mentioned previously here is that Samsung will drop LCD and plasma prices effective 8/28.

See http://www.avsforum.com/avs-vb/showt...92#post6061792

I was considering getting a 409 this weekend at a local high-end big chain dealer that has this on their "private sale". I don't want to PO the mods, but suffice it to say that the price makes it a no-brainer to get the 409 rather than the 408.

They offer 60-day price protection, but I'm not 100% sure that I could use the 8/28 price drop as they are the only local dealer I am aware of and I doubt that they match web pricing. I guess their 30-day no questions return policy would straddle 8/28 so they can't really mess with me.

Hmmm.
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