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post #151 of 1657
Correct.... Sampo and Maxent are basically one in the same as previouslly mentioned.
post #152 of 1657
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Originally Posted by Shiba1 View Post

Correct.... Sampo and Maxent are basically one in the same as previouslly mentioned.

Thanks you all, I'm convinced that I made a great purchase of the Vizio 42HDe which has a LG panel in it! No regrets and no looking back now. I have had not one major issue with it since Feb.

But for newbies, this is still a great deal even if it really is a Sampo. The picture is stunning and brilliant, but not very sharp and natural.
post #153 of 1657
It's not technically a Sampo.... Regent is the parent company who make Sampo and Maxent.
post #154 of 1657
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Originally Posted by Shiba1 View Post

Correct.... Sampo and Maxent are basically one in the same as previouslly mentioned.

Should I beLIEve you or not? I don't know which way to go!
post #155 of 1657
Let me look for the link.... I would never lie to anyone about this type of information. I have nothing to gain from it.

I will search for the link now and post it....

FYI... I saw the Vizio right next to the Maxent today and thought the Maxent had a slight edge, but what makes me happy may not make you happy. The price is perfect though!!!
post #156 of 1657
Here you go.... from another post here on AVS...Nest from the last post.

Regent Link
post #157 of 1657
Now granted they are not saying many good things, but just proving my point about Regent...

They also make some of the Gateway, Viewsonic and even Philips LCD and Plasmas. I think I already posted that in this topic though.
post #158 of 1657
Is it bug or my TV is broken?
I set aspect ratio on one of the AV input to any other mode rather then defalt 16:9 (Zoom1 for example). Then turn Tv off / on. Aspect ration will return to default 16:9.
The same thing happend if I just switch input from AV to component and back to AV.
Doesn't look logical to me. It should remember last setting.
Does your TV act the same way?
post #159 of 1657
I got MX-42X3 yesterday and after playing with it for a few of hours I noticed a couple of annoying features/firmware bugs:
1. If you set your screen viewing mode on let's say AV1, to 4:3 or Panoramic and then switch to component-1 and back to AV1 the screen always resets to 16:9 mode.
2. I would expect the Image Shift to move the image around to eventually cover the side black bars in 4:3 mode, but I didn't detect any visible image shift in two hours with the most aggressive (10c) Image Shift setting.
3. PIP on this unit is a joke, it works only when the main source is HDMI. The Vizio on another hand can combine any two sources.
4. You cannot use Zoom1/2 or Panorama with non AV/S-Video sources.

I was really impressed how well this monitor handles a low quality analog SD input from my 5 years old VCR which I use a tuner, but I expected better image quality from a component signal coming from my progressive scan DVD player.
post #160 of 1657
"...I set aspect ratio on one of the AV input to any other mode rather then defalt 16:9 (Zoom1 for example). Then turn Tv off / on. Aspect ration will return to default 16:9."

Could it be the Maxent's way of implementing the ghost removal
post #161 of 1657
I was at my local Costco tonight and am now highly interested in this monitor! My initial choice as a first-time HD monitor owner has been the Sony 34XBR960 until I saw this Maxent.

Is the $300 rebate a mail-in or taken off at the register?

Has anyone found a significant dislike of this monitor? Lack of internal tuner is not of issue, as I have an LG LST-4200A STB to use with it.

Thanks!
post #162 of 1657
"but I expected better image quality from a component signal coming from my progressive scan DVD player"

I found that SD from my Dish PVR-625 is much better through composite input than S-video.
I wish I could watch HD but I switched from Comcast to Dish 4 months ago (ggrrr!) and now I stuck with Dish Standard Def. for another 8 months . They charge big $$$ for HD upgrade.
I have old Panasonic DVD player with component output 480i and I've got excellent PQ. Even $30 Cyber home progressive DVD player delivers very good PQ.
Only annoying thing is that I cannot stretch the picture to full screen. I increased V-size to max and still got two 1.5" black bars on top and bottom.
Is that what really differentiates expensive panels from cheapper ones? Digital processing?
Can somebody recommend DVD player, which can change aspect in the source?
I've heard something about upconverting DVD players...
Need to do some research.
post #163 of 1657
I am also interested in this monitor, but need to decide whether to buy this or the Westinghouse 37in LCD monitor from bestbuy for about $150 more.

Some people have mentioned that the 37in Phillips LCD that Costco sells alongside this plasma, appear to carry a much better picture quality, and the Westy has an even higher resolution (Westy is 1080p)

May be I should buy both and decide for myself which one looks better.
post #164 of 1657
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Originally Posted by johnkn7 View Post

I was at my local Costco tonight and am now highly interested in this monitor! My initial choice as a first-time HD monitor owner has been the Sony 34XBR960 until I saw this Maxent.

Is the $300 rebate a mail-in or taken off at the register?

Has anyone found a significant dislike of this monitor? Lack of internal tuner is not of issue, as I have an LG LST-4200A STB to use with it.

Thanks!

I jusat know it gets very hot.. Working at BB I pass it a lot.. It's much hotter then the other plasma.. In a small room it could double as a heater.. The Maxent 42inch now sticks out like a sore thumb at our store.. The Green Hue is very noticable, even to a non videophile.. I wouldn't recomend this TV..
post #165 of 1657
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Originally Posted by KBI View Post

I just know it gets very hot.. Working at BB I pass it a lot.. It's much hotter then the other plasma.. In a small room it could double as a heater.. The Maxent 42inch now sticks out like a sore thumb at our store.. The Green Hue is very noticable, even to a non videophile.. I wouldn't recomend this TV..

As several have mentioned in previous replies to this thread the Maxent 42 at BB is NOT the same model or plasma panel as the one at Costco. The Costco has higher brightness and contrast specs (likely newer generation panel). Only time will tell if this Maxent model has the same heat issue or develops the green hue. At least through Costco if either of these become a problem the return policy is generous enough to make it a non-issue. Furthermore could the radiant heat issue on the BB Maxents be related to the fact that perhaps their cooling fans are not as powerful (or loud) as other makes/models (like the noisy Visio 50's). Its all a trade off. Hey, nothing makes a family room cozier than roasting marshmallows over the TV... am I right ?

Also in reference to the prior post including a link to a Sampo 42 inch HD model based on the technical stats on that site it seems that the particular Sampo referenced is the twin to the BestBuy Maxent rather than the Costco model. Although I'm sure that being sister companies under the same corporate umbrella Sampo does or will have an equivalent to the Costco Maxent model.

In any event the multiple class A and A/B audio amps in my theater make enough heat on their own that a little extra heat from a plasma shouldn't matter much.
post #166 of 1657
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Originally Posted by Motegi View Post

As several have mentioned in previous replies to this thread the Maxent 42 at BB is NOT the same model or plasma panel as the one at Costco. The Costco has higher brightness and contrast specs (likely newer generation panel). Only time will tell if this Maxent model has the same heat issue or develops the green hue. At least through Costco if either of these become a problem the return policy is generous enough to make it a non-issue. Furthermore could the radiant heat issue on the BB Maxents be related to the fact that perhaps their cooling fans are not as powerful (or loud) as other makes/models (like the noisy Visio 50's). Its all a trade off. Hey, nothing makes a family room cozier than roasting marshmallows over the TV... am I right ?

Also in reference to the prior post including a link to a Sampo 42 inch HD model based on the technical stats on that site it seems that the particular Sampo referenced is the twin to the BestBuy Maxent rather than the Costco model. Although I'm sure that being sister companies under the same corporate umbrella Sampo does or will have an equivalent to the Costco Maxent model.

In any event the multiple class A and A/B audio amps in my theater make enough heat on their own that a little extra heat from a plasma shouldn't matter much.

Sigh.. Same budget pricing.. & same company.. Different model, yes.. But I doubt the PQ has improved enough to be considered in the same League as Panasonic. Pioneer. Fujitsu. & Hitachi.. You get what you pay for..
post #167 of 1657
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Originally Posted by KBI View Post

Sigh.. Same budget pricing.. & same company.. Different model, yes.. But I doubt the PQ has improved enough to be considered in the same League as Panasonic. Pioneer. Fujitsu. & Hitachi.. You get what you pay for..

I would not be making that smug smiley face without seeing the monitor. I have seen the BB EDTV maxent and would not buy it even if it was $500. It is posible to find bargains that are very good just consider the pic quality and the cost difference of a panny and pioneer. Now do you get what you pay for with the panny???????

The costco maxent is indeed very good. To all the avsers dont let other peoples smug smiley faces fool you. Go check out the monitor and decide. I personally dont think it was as good as the panasonic but it was very close. That is why I am thinking about getting one.
post #168 of 1657
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Originally Posted by KBI View Post

Sigh.. Same budget pricing.. & same company.. Different model, yes.. But I doubt the PQ has improved enough to be considered in the same League as Panasonic. Pioneer. Fujitsu. & Hitachi.. You get what you pay for..

You get what you pay for but do you get double of what you pay for based on price? I'll take a set that has 85-90% of the PQ as a Panny or Pioneer...especially when at home I don't have to compare them side by side...to each his own...
post #169 of 1657
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Originally Posted by KBI View Post

Sigh.. Same budget pricing.. & same company.. Different model, yes.. But I doubt the PQ has improved enough to be considered in the same League as Panasonic. Pioneer. Fujitsu. & Hitachi.. You get what you pay for..

Honestly though seeing is believing and side by side on display with the Pioneers Panasonics and Vizio plasmas at my local Costco (and after some tweaking of the settings - no, i did not purposely tone down the Pios or Panas) they were all pretty darn close in terms of picture quality. I figure at the price and the no restrictions return policy it should be worth at least an in-home trial.

On the other hand what I originally wanted was a Sammy or Mistu DLP. Hitachi sets have always been among my favorites as well (I have had a Hitachi direct view and two 60" CRT RPTVs - one in HD). It was mainly the Maxent pricing, the positive comments about the PQ in this thread, and my personal subjective viewing that swayed my choices.
post #170 of 1657
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Originally Posted by Desimd View Post

I would not be making that smug smiley face without seeing the monitor. I have seen the BB EDTV maxent and would not buy it even if it was $500. It is posible to find bargains that are very good just consider the pic quality and the cost difference of a panny and pioneer. Now do you get what you pay for with the panny???????

The costco maxent is indeed very good. To all the avsers dont let other peoples smug smiley faces fool you. Go check out the monitor and decide. I personally dont think it was as good as the panasonic but it was very close. That is why I am thinking about getting one.

I have both the Pioneer 4312 and Maxent at home but not side by side, and I am very pleased with both. For the money, you give up a few features (relating to PIP, POP and panorama, settings, etc,) but for my purposes, the Maxent is fine.
post #171 of 1657
I know this is all just super subjective anyway, but I felt I'd like to comment here since AVS and all your feedback helped me make my decision. Purchased this Maxent MX-42x3 set at Costco today and have yet to set it up. Will get to it this weekend when I have help to put it up on wall mount. I compared PQ to all large HD's available there, including their Plasmas and LCD's. They were all lined up and playing same channel - Discovery HD, so it was easy to glance back and forth at total overall PQ, color, contrast, sharpness, brightness, etc. This was the second day in a row I went to look at them and my third time there since the 8th when it went up on display/sale. I watched for several hours each time, going in and out of the store to give eyes a break. Saw all of them in different lighting conditions, angles and distances. At one point this morning, all of Costco's overhead lights went out for about 10 minutes and that really made all the sets show great, even the not so great sets. But, I still can't believe my eyes, this Maxent was better than most all the big brand names including the Panny and Pio, and far superior to many others. Just too good to be true? Have 50" Sony WEGA LCD HD in living room and it's super terrific. I think this Maxent could even rival it! WOW, even if Costco tweaked the display set, the Maxent should still be a great view. And of course now for the kicker .... $300 off coupon made the set $1699. Just too good to pass up and their liberal return policy means that I can always take it back if I'm not happy with it. Coupon is in hand-out flier at door but you don't need it as they have it at check out registers. Sale is on nation-wide and runs through this Sunday. This is great forum, thanks for all of your pro's and con's.
post #172 of 1657
I've had this unit since early Monday morning when I picked it up at Costco (I knew about the sale last week so I did all my PQ research/watching then )
It's been on/off for about 4-5 hours each day, mostly at half contrast/brightness for burn-in purposes. Haven't noticed any residual heat at all. I can feel the heat from my receiver right next to the X3 but nothing really from the X3 itself. Also reiterating others, I find it very quiet.

Yes I have noticed some quirks about it, one that it returns to a default 16:9 as soon as you leave that particular input or shut the TV off. Also as ervw has mentioned, I'm still wondering about the image shift actually working. I've tried it and I think I imagine seeing the image shift about 1cm, but I'm not sure if its my imagination or not. At any rate, I thought it would be like a rotating image (sort of like most DVD screen savers). Any confirmations? I also don't like the fact that the stretch modes only work for composite and S-Video, but not for component and HDMI. The later two only allow 16:9 or 4:3 switching. But all quirks aside, I am in awe of the PQ! I just finished watching a two hour block of CSI/Trace and it was magnificent. I was grinning ear to ear looking at the nice PQ.


For others who are fighting over whether the panel is made by Samsung or Sampo or who are comparing to the different units at BB, I say who cares? Use your eyes, people, use your eyes. Check out the unit at Costco, if you like the PQ than buy it, if not than don't. This isn't a $5K Pioneer, and needn't be thought of as one. If you can mention the Maxent's PQ in the same breathe as a Pio and it cost $1700 dollars, what else is there to think about? I got my unit already, so it's no big deal for me. But I don't want anyone else to be kicking themselves out of a good deal just from the heresay. Go check it out for yourselves.

And remember, have fun out there.
post #173 of 1657
johnkn7 - They give you a flyer when you walk in and the coupon is on that flyer. It is a Instant Coupong that they deduct at the register, no rebates to mess with on this one.

navatweb - I was also considering the 37" Westy until I saw this. I can not see myself paying several hundred more for a smaller LCD. I love the picture on both but felt the Maxent was perfect for me. For the same price as the Westy, I am able to buy a high-end HDMI Cable and a D* H10 Receiver to go along with my TV. Makes me feel like I am getting more for my money.

KBI - Please know your facts before speaking and downing a product. BB DOES NOT carry the X3, plain and simple. As previouslly mentioned by myself, the models BB carries all look like crap and are not made with quality componenets like the X3 is. Go to Costco and look at the X3 and then come back and give your opinion. And yes, the PQ HAS improved on this model to compare to some of the bigger names.
post #174 of 1657
After day 2 with my Maxent... I am still very pleased. The Packers/Chargers game last night looked great on it. Can't wait for the Raiders/49ers game on Saturday.

I've noticed that the rear-top of the set gets rather hot as well. Moving my hand down about 4-inches and the heat is gone. With nothing on in the room except the plasma (with the speakers turned off), I was unable to hear any cooling fans. So it would seem this plasma is venting its heat out the top just as it was probably designed to do.
post #175 of 1657
Thread Starter 
Well, I now have both this set and the Sharp Aquos 32". Honestly, after seeing HD on the Aquos, I was quite underwhelmed by the Maxent. The Aquos also let me switch to 480p mode using HDMI, which this one doesn't. Both HD and SD are noticeably worse on this set than the Aquos. Quite frankly, although HD is ok, SD is atrocious (still watchable though). I'll probably keep the set since it's too much hassle to return it, and it's watchable at least.

The one advantage this set has over the Aquos is of course the size. Initially I thought I'd prefer plasma over lcd, but after seeing the two of these together, next time I might go with lcd.
post #176 of 1657
Just bought this plasma yesturday and went straight home to set it up. The pq is very nice on DVD with component hookup. This is my first plasma purchase and soon after hooking it up I started becoming paranoid about burn-in. I see that some have set Britness/Contrast to half to protect from this. Good idea? Also, how long should you keep it like that? And when playing DVD's (which is one of the main reasons for getting it, other than NFL Ticket in HD) will the black lines on top and bottom case some sort of burn-in?

Thanks for any info.
post #177 of 1657
Maybe these questions is too soon to ask, but let me ask it anyway. Perhaps your answer will help me decide.

How's the Maxent 42 peformance with respect to:

a) Dark scenes? Do you see details? or are they mostly just black. How does Jay Leno's dark suit look like in HD?

b) Clay face? In mostly dark scenes in movies, do you see face features that resembles "clay" in color.

c) Image retention? Does very bright white images gets retained when transitioning to total black. Like text of menus, splash screen of DVDs. This is not burn-in which is permanent. Image retention is temporary but annoying.

These are common plasma problems which may (or may not occur) in varying degrees depending on the quality of the plasma.

Thanks for any input. I need to decide by Sunday when the sale ends.
post #178 of 1657
Anyone else having "yellow" problems over HDMI? I've got an Oppo connected via DVI-HDMI cable, and there is a distinct "overyellowing" of the image. But it's strange. I was watching Incredibles and where the scences do not have a strong yellow overtone, the image is perfect. I'm not sure what to make of it.

I'm going to run the usual trouble shooting, but I wanted to know if anyone else had problems over HDMI.
post #179 of 1657
The Maxent syncs at 1360x768 60Hz using a 9800pro thru an RGB cable. This is a "stock" resolution setting since I'm not using Powerstrip. The desktop is now at the proper aspect ratio(not streched) however, there is a very slight diagonal distortion that waves across the screen. Is this caused by incorrect timing? Is this something Powerstrip can fix? I tried adjusting the phase setting in the menu which does seem to have some effect but doesn't completely clear the distortion.
post #180 of 1657
I just came back from Costco and saw the 42" maxent. VERY nice! I'm probably going to pick one up this weekend. It was next to a Pioneer, and the pq was very similar.
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