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post #181 of 1657
Heh, Got one waiting for me at home. The wife just happenned to notice it at Costco and called to tell me about it. Read this thread, called her back to get her to pick it up. No risk with that lovely costco return policy.
post #182 of 1657
Hey guys. Someone posted you can't stretch a 4:3 signal while using component or HDMI inputs. My comcast DVR only has component out, so this is important since I don't want to have to watch several shows with bars on the side.

Can someone please confirm or deny this for me.

Thanks,

DocTDC
post #183 of 1657
Anyone know which models have the feature and which one is a superior view?
post #184 of 1657
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Originally Posted by ThePerfectViewe View Post

Anyone know which models have the feature and which one is a superior view?

WAY WAY wrong thread. Please show some courtesy and address your question in a new topic.
post #185 of 1657
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Originally Posted by DocTDC View Post

Hey guys. Someone posted you can't stretch a 4:3 signal while using component or HDMI inputs. My comcast DVR only has component out, so this is important since I don't want to have to watch several shows with bars on the side.

Can someone please confirm or deny this for me.

Thanks,

DocTDC

It's been confirmed many times throughout the thread.

However, it's time to upgrade your DVR. You should be using Comcast's dual tuner HDTV DVR. It has a DVI out.
post #186 of 1657
Since when. I understand they will not roll this out in new jersey until 2007.
post #187 of 1657
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Originally Posted by wfujosh View Post

It's been confirmed many times throughout the thread.

However, it's time to upgrade your DVR. You should be using Comcast's dual tuner HDTV DVR. It has a DVI out.

My bad I do have the dual tuner DVR 6412(?) I think. Didn't realize it has a DVI option. Now I suppose I just need a cable. Hope they are not too expensive!

DocTDC
post #188 of 1657
My D* HD box has DVI out -- but if I bought a DVI-HDMI interface, wouldn't I lose audio?

This set is in my bedroom, so I don't have a seperate audio hookup.

Will I get a better picture from HDMI?

Thanks
Chris
post #189 of 1657
Okay, please excuse my ignorance if I don't understand this issue. I looked through the instruction manual online and it seemed to cause me worry. And I have read this entire thread. So, please don't flame me if I don't understand.

My concern: I have the Vizio 42" which allows me to stretch my picture to full screen with my DVI input. There is talk here that you can't do that on the Maxent and the manual seems to support this view. So, if I am watching a program that is formatted 4:3 (and I have my STB Motorola 6200 set to output 1080 and 16:9 with sound outputting to the optical input on my stereo), will it be 4:3 on this set? I played with my Vizio at lunch and in order to get full screen, I have to have it set at "wide" (even though my STB outputs at 1080 and is set to 16:9). I only use currently DVI for STB and component for Xbox. So, is it only through composite and S Video that you can do this? If so, sounds pretty useless to not allow you to stretch component of HDMI to fill the screen on SD TV shows (such as ABC, ESPN, CNN, etc.) I don't like viewing TV in 4:3 format.

Also, how would I be able to use the built in speakers as my center speakers if I output the sound to my stereo from my optical out on my STB. I really don't want to make a mistake buying this set since it sounds like it's got a great picture!!

I'm just really confused!! Please help! I'm just a noobie trying to make a good purchase.
post #190 of 1657
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Originally Posted by Phil Hightech View Post

The Maxent syncs at 1360x768 60Hz using a 9800pro thru an RGB cable. This is a "stock" resolution setting since I'm not using Powerstrip. The desktop is now at the proper aspect ratio(not streched) however, there is a very slight diagonal distortion that waves across the screen. Is this caused by incorrect timing? Is this something Powerstrip can fix? I tried adjusting the phase setting in the menu which does seem to have some effect but doesn't completely clear the distortion.

If you hit the "display" button on the remote, what resolution does the TV say it's accepting? I was having a similar issue. 1360X768 isn't a supported resolution according to the users manual (even though it looks ok), so I think there may be some some scaling issues going on. I'm trying to send it 1366X768 but apparently that is impossible on my Radeon because 1366 isn't a multiple of 8. I'm going to try with a 6600GT, but haven't had the chance yet.
post #191 of 1657
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Originally Posted by Chri View Post

If you hit the "display" button on the remote, what resolution does the TV say it's accepting? I was having a similar issue. 1360X768 isn't a supported resolution according to the users manual (even though it looks ok), so I think there may be some some scaling issues going on. I'm trying to send it 1366X768 but apparently that is impossible on my Radeon because 1366 isn't a multiple of 8. I'm going to try with a 6600GT, but haven't had the chance yet.

The TV shows 1280x768 when I set the HTPC to 1360x768. I haven't had much "alone time" with it but I did notice that 1360x768 corrects the aspect ratio in MCE when viewing jpgs in My Photos. Perhaps MCE isn't setup properly since I was previously using it with a 4:3 CRT If you discover any tips for MCE please pass them along. Thanks, Phil
post #192 of 1657
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Originally Posted by Phil Hightech View Post

The TV shows 1280x768 when I set the HTPC to 1360x768. I haven't had much "alone time" with it but I did notice that 1360x768 corrects the aspect ratio in MCE when viewing jpgs in My Photos. Perhaps MCE isn't setup properly since I was previously using it with a 4:3 CRT If you discover any tips for MCE please pass them along. Thanks, Phil

It sounds like MCE is set up properly. The aspect ratio problem is inherent on all 42" HD plasmas because of the rectangular pixels. With a vertical resolution of 768, the proper horizontal resolution for a 16X9 ratio on a PC would be 1366.
post #193 of 1657
orangedawg:
I have the same concern. My panny rear projection HD won't go full screen with the DVI input out of Comcast motorola STB and I don't want that issue with a plasma. I almost bought the Vizio P42e a couple weeks ago, now they don't have them but I saw this Maxent and the PQ looks great in the store. Are you considering taking the Vizio back for the Maxent? If so, why?
post #194 of 1657
I am taking back my Vizio 42" for three reasons:

1. Most problematic is the sound. It cuts out every now and then. It will be fine sometimes for 2 weeks or so, and then the sound just stops. I have to turn the set off and then back on to get it to work. Sometimes it won't do it for another 2 weeks and sometimes it will do it 3x in a half hour. I am the only person so far that I know of that has this issue (when looking at the posts on the 42" Vizio thread).

2. Blue retention is starting to get bad. If I'm watching a movie and there is for example a yellow light bulb in the picture, that image will be retained as blue for a minute or two even after the scene changes. It never did this when I first got it and now it is getting worse. I was incredibly careful breaking my set in: low brightness and contrast (around 40-45), no XBox, only full screen material for first 200 hours. My current brightness and contrast are below 50 (around 45) and the problem continues to get worse. Others in the 42" Vizio thread have noted this.

3. Brightness/black level shifting occurs constantly. It is better if you turn up contrast and brightness, but it washes out the picture a bit and image retention gets worse. Again, others in 42" Vizio thread have noted this.

Overall, I think the Vizio is a good set with it's features and picture, but these issues are starting to drive me nuts, particularly the sound issue(which has been present since I bought it and have been too lazy to take it back until now, my Costco has been aware of this sometime since a friend of mine works at customer service at my local store).

So, I'd love it if this Maxent could produce full screen images like my Vizio, w/o the sound issue, image retention problem, and a better picture.
post #195 of 1657
Well, I think I'm going to go for the Maxent. I solved the full screen isssue on my panny by watching non HD programming through my DVD-R on s-video feed. Guess I'll just do the same with this. I spent time this afternoon comparing PQ among several brands at my local Costco and I thought the only one that looked better was the pioneer, but not over a grand better....
post #196 of 1657
orangedawg, I have about the same Vizio problem as yours except for the sound. So I am shopping.

Re. stretch mode, the way I understand this is as follows (I can't verify because I don't have a Maxent):

For HDMI or Component input, you can do 16:9 which I assume stretches SD material to fill the screen but you cannot use PANORAMA, ZOOM1 or ZOOM2.

You would need 2 cables out of your STB:
1) DVI or component to watch HD channels
2) S-video for SD channels to allow ZOOM (I hate stretch-mode which makes people fat)

From what I read, settings are not retained when changing input. Compared to the vizio, there'll be a lot more button-pushing when watching different material on this set.

I'm still undecided; can't be sure if it'll not have the same problem as Vizio. I'm hoping for PIO sale at COSTCO; they have PIO closing sale at GoodGuys but still expensive.
post #197 of 1657
After finding and reading this thread on Wednesday, I rushed over to my Costco and bought the Maxent last night. The coupon discount closed the deal!

I forgot to take the back seat out of my Dodge Grand Caravan, but was able to squeeze the box into the back of the minivan sideways (across the width of the car). It was tight, but I managed to push it in. I didn't want to lay it down.

I bought this to replace my 20+ year old 27" Zenith in my bedroom. I have a Pioner Elite 720HD in the family room/theater.

Yes this thing kicks off heat, which radiates out the top of the box. This is my first experience with a plasma set, so I don't know if the heat is typical.

SD looks great. Last night I had it hooked up to my Scientific Atlanta digital cable box via S-Video. Even the stretched modes looked pretty good.

I rushed over to Cox this afternoon, and got the HD Scientific Atlanta box. This is connected via component. The SA cable box puts out full 16:9 and does its own zoom and scaling, with gray side bars for SD content. This means that all I need to do to control the Maxent is power and volume. I have no other sources so I don't need to change inputs.

I noted that when you power on, the Maxent will set itself to 16:9 regardless of input or setting you had previous to power off. For me this is not a problem as this is controlled via the cable box.

I have my settings at:
Contrast: 50
Brightness: 50
Sharpness: 1
color: 34
tint: +4

This was all set by eye, no setup programming.

For the price and purpose (bedroom set), I'm very pleased.

Time will tell about durability.

Thanks all for turning me on to this deal.

One more thing to add. As I was approaching checkout with this thing, one of the Costco people approached me and told me about their executive membership, which gives 2% cash back for all your purchases at the end of the year. Its an upgrade in membership, additional cost, but when he looked up what I spent there, I have broken even between membership cost, and the cash back.

I am very happy!
post #198 of 1657
Can someone with a unit take measurements between the left and right plasma mounts on the back? Also the distance between the top and bottom as well. Thanks!!
post #199 of 1657
25" between left and right mounting screws
15" between top and bottom mounting screws
post #200 of 1657
that was fast, thanks!!
post #201 of 1657
First I just want to thank every one of you on this forum and to the people whom created this website . I have been looking to move into the High Def world and big screen for some time. I was nearly 100 percent set on getting one of the Samsung DLPS hlr5087 pedestal model. After seeing the maxent costco thread I investigated it further. I am a member of costco and I always saw the tvs entering the store but I thought they were the older models. Anyway after reading all your posts I decided to check out this Plasma . The PQ in the store compared favorably to the 43" pioneer next to it. So even my wife thought it was a great picture and a great price which she not as enthustiac as I was about my upcoming purchase. So we decided to pull the trigger on the sale . Upgraded my membership for 2 % cash back and applied for the AMEX card which gave me another 1 % cashback I do have the cash to pay off before any intrest accrues. Oh by the way they had coupon at register and scanned there. We loade it up in Murano we did lay it flat for a short 20 minute ride home. Got it inside and very easy to unpack. Placed it on long sturdy sideboard cabinet. Any body reccomend a cheap stand with 4 shelves. I have SD E sat so I knew that wouldnt look very good I just ordered D SAT service with Hd DVR which will be installed late next week which will be the real test for this TV err monitor. I hooked up my 4 Year old TOSHIBA 5 DISC DVD i believe the model # is the 2900 something . It is NOT a Progressive scan or upconverting.. First dvd I tried was TWISTER which is an older dvd . The input was component cable and when I started the movie The Tv told me it was 480i The movie looked pretty grainy especially in the brighter sky scenes in the movie I guess I need a progressive scan dvd player I dont know. At this point I was a little dissapointed . Well lets try again I put in the widescreen enhanced for wide screen FINDING NEMO. WOW WOW WOW WOW!!!!!!!!! It almost brought a tear to my eye . The whole screen was filled with this beautiful piece of work. It was almost 3D quality NO grainyness crystal clear picture . Still 480i I cant even imagine a better picture. It might just be the format on the dvd I dont know. I called my neighbor over and he was blown away and he said " I dont want to leave" . I next tried my starwars collection I tried attack of the clones. This dvd is the full screen format . Again WOW WOW WOW. It filled my whole screen with very little stretched People. I switched to 4:3 and couldnt tell much of a difference in PQ. SO this is a keeper for me I had also thought about the 50" vizio but I read about the noisy fan issue even though vizio will fix it. But I dont think a 1K price difference is worth the extra 8 ". This tv is plenty big for me with a 7 - 9 foot vieing distance. I also used the THX optomizer on the DVD to adjust my picture I will report later on my settings. The audio sounds pretty Good but ive been using a surround sound system So im not the one to ask about built in sound. I am most pleased so far.


I did ask the assistant manager about the return policy and he told me they take care of their members and policy is as tated on this thread for whatever reason or whenever you can return it with a receipt. Incredible. I must say with price and return policy and all of your input is what sold me on buing a plasma and this one in particular.. I still want to see it with my Hd sat reciever I hope there is no dissapointment with that. Also I Am not a gamer so I couldnt tell you about that either ..


I do have some questions for you all What kind of dvd player should I get do I just need a progessive scan will that help some of the olde grainy dvds or do I need the one with an upconverter the the Samsung 850 , 950. Any info would be much appreciated... Thanks to all again who have contributed.
post #202 of 1657
First few pages of this thread a guy posted some SD shots... made me feel a lot
better about my purchase!!

This is a shot of my PWD7UY 42" ED, using DISH Network Sat. reciever connected via S-Video, 4:3 picture stretched using the JUST mode of the plasma.

Peace,
Dreamaster
LL
post #203 of 1657
I visited the local Costco last night and again tonight to see this monitor. Within 24 hours, 3 more were sold. I plan to be there when the doors open on Saturday. To make things better, the state of Massachusetts has waived the 5% sales tax for this weekend -- another $85 saved -- $1699.99 cash & carry! Questions --

(1) The sign says '1-yr in home service'. I was not able to find anyone who could tell me any more about the service plan. Has anyone found out who / what this 1-yr in-home service consists of?

(2) Has anyone had any recent experience with Maxent / Regent customer service or warranty issues?

Thanks!
post #204 of 1657
Just bought this 42" Maxent at Costco . When I went to load it in my Chevy Blazer , the guys at the store told me I shouldn't lay the box on its side . They said it would damage the unit . Why does laying a plasma on its side damage it ? I called my brother in law who has a pickup so that I could keep it upright taking it home .
post #205 of 1657
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Originally Posted by Lumens View Post

Just bought this 42" Maxent at Costco . When I went to load it in my Chevy Blazer , the guys at the store told me I shouldn't lay the box on its side . They said it would damage the unit . Why does laying a plasma on its side damage it ? I called my brother in law who has a pickup so that I could keep it upright taking it home .

Well its not a given that it will be damaged from being laid on its side, but consider this, its a large piece of glass, if not supported correctly it can break from its own weight. Of course depending on the thickness and what not, it may be strong enought to not break, but do you want to take that chance with a $2k TV?
post #206 of 1657
Went to the oakbrook il costco and picked one up today..............the guy said this is the 5th one they sold today. I guess the word is getting around. I still think its not as good as the pio HDTV but is 95% there. For the price I love it.
post #207 of 1657
My brother bought this TV on wednesday and I got to check it out tonight. I might consider getting it, but I have some reservations.

First of all he showed off his Xbox games which looked decent in 480p but when he ran some 720p games I noticed what looked like thin horizontal lines flashing around in the overlayed text. Games like Soul Calibur 2 and MVP Baseball 2005 showed this problem off mostly in menus and text bubbles. It would be very annoying if this plasma does this with 720p seeing how all next gen consoles are moving to that format. I then tried 1080i with Enter the Matrix and didnt notice this problem at all.

After that he hooked up the new Samsung upconverting 720p DVD player he bought lastnight. I noticed that same issue with 720p on the DVD menus and on subtitles. It looked like every other line in the text was moving a few pixels left or right like it was out of sync. Might there be something wrong with the plasma or is this the norm? Should he exchange it? I have till the end of sunday to decide i guess.
post #208 of 1657
Has anybody seen and compared the 42 vs. 50?
post #209 of 1657
I bought this monitor and have set it up. I do not have HD yet, but have found that SD through Dish network, and DVDs play with excellent picture quality. I was really surprised that SD played so well. All screen modes, 16-9, paranomic, zoom1/2 played very well for SD.

I am quite pleased with my purchase even though I had to drive 35 miles to a Costco and joined as a new member.

But some problems that others have noticed:
- DVDs cannot be stretched to full screen. Most of the DVDs I played were almost full screen, but there were small (1-2inches) black patches at the top and the bottom. May be I am doing something wrong, but the Titanic DVD could not be stretched to cover even half of the screen. I tried both SVideo and Component Input.
- Settings on screen size are not saved across power cycles, and probably even when you just cycle through input types.

I'll report on the HD quality when I get HD next week. But in all I am quite happy with my decision to buy this monitor. I was a little concerned that the screen size (42 in) would be a bit too large fro my viewing diustance of 9 feet. But it is perfect.

Thanks to everybody for sharing their experinces and saving me at least $1200.
post #210 of 1657
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Originally Posted by navatweb View Post

Most of the DVDs I played were almost full screen, but there were small (1-2inches) black patches at the top and the bottom. .

All 16:9 TV do that if no strech function is used it just has to do with how dvd's are formated.


Anyone got theirs wall mounted yet???? I am looking into the peerless 660 mount.
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